Hello guys. I just wanted to say a huge thank you, since earlier this week we passed 50,000 subscribers :D Discord server out soon. I hope you enjoy my video here today, and once you are finished, I recommend you go look at Scale Studio's video on painting and distressing Panzer Grey.
Great explanations! Wondered where you had been. You probably do one of the better jobs explaining color and how to manipulate it. I just recently started using Tamiya's lacquer thinner for the very reason you stated. Dries rock solid!
Thank you Stephen. I have been quite busy with university lately as I am in the final year of my Aerospace Engineering degree. I try to put up a video whenever I can :)
Awesome video! Great examples of early war camouflage and the explanation of why black and white film blends the red brown into the grey. I also appreciate your explanation of when filters can be useful and why they weren't in this instance. It seems like extra attention up front when painting the base colors can save time later by avoiding the need for a filter. I have seen some modelers use a filter over specific parts and panels as a way to add contrast, but I personally think that's easier done with oil paints in a post shading fashion (more like an oil dot filter as these premixed filters are often incredibly thin and perhaps difficult to control when a precise application is desired).
I watched a lot of different videos about modeling, but I liked your models the most! They are very, very realistic !!! It is very interesting to look at your finished models! I will learn from your lessons about painting models, and at the same time learn English! (I speak Russian) Thank you very much for making these videos, they are very helpful novice modelers!
I’ve just completed the build on Dragon’s 1/35 Panzer III E so the timing of this video is perfect as I’ll be painting it grey and brown. Great video as always, love your work Evan. 😊👍👍👍
good video and thanks for the informations und tips. it will sure help me if I start modelling again soon after a break of 20 years. 20 years ago I didnt know anything about primers, washes, brushes, techniques, I just made base color, some camo and the rest as shown in manuals
I am doing one these camo schemes on my benz campervan. Only I use flat black as the base... the flat black looks very much like a weathered dark grey, especially over time. for the brown I am debating whether or not I should mix in some black with the brown... I have to do some test pieces to see what is best looking...
*I know WW2 history like my pocket but there is also a detail which appears from time to time like this 2 tons camouflage of german vehicles. Thanks so much Panzermeister for this discovery.*
That's an old project of mine from a while ago. I based it off of a photograph. There was a StuG IV and a Panther D that were modified late in the war to clear rubble after bombing raids. Google "Raumpanzer Panther" or Raumpanzer StuG IV".
Good to see a new video from you. I always enjoy your work. I never gave the early grey panzers a second look. Interesting. I spray a dull coat after the camo to blend everything and seal the decals. Would a dull coat be the same thing as a filter? I do like your results.
@@Panzermeister36 Thanks for the answer! You probably talked about thinning paint with lacquer thinner in the video, but I don't know English well, so I didn't understand what you explained in the video.I use google translator, so I only understand what is written, unfortunately! ((((
Excellent tutorial Evan! 👍 I enjoyed your discussion on base colors and filters although I prefer the muted look of adding a filter (but not my model 😉). I have had great results with Tamiya paints and Mr. Leveling Thinner (MLT). The paint sprays beautifully and dries to a very smooth, hard finish. I believe Tamiya has a leveling thinner as well but haven't tried it. Btw, congrats on 50k, well deserved!!! 🍾
Great video. Nice to see some different paint schemes like this (the pre-1937 tri-colour scheme sounds intriguing too). Also a great demo of how the brown 'disappears' in black and white photos. Thanks!
My great grandfather was in ww2 in Asia, and went to Europe in 45 he photographed a panzer 1 with panzer grey with Green? It’s a color photo, not the best quality, but it’s green. Maybe a late war change, but anyway I think it’s still cool.
Later in the war, many tanks old tanks that had been used for training purposes ended up being put into service, so they sometimes had odd camouflage combinations.
Great, great video and tutorial, of an often neglected topic, very well shot and explained, and I think you integrate the close-ups and wider shots very well in your final video edit, the whole video has a very nice, professional "flow". Congrats and thanks very much! Btw, many of your videos have a slight green-yellowish tint, have you noticed? It's east to see, when you know you are looking at a panzer grey vehicle (which should be neutral grey or sometimes with a slight - very slight - bluish tint), but it comes out quite greenish in fact. It could be either a greenish-yellowish cast of the actual lights that you are using when photographing/video shooting the models (very few desktop lights are really neutral, usually the Kelvin rating in the bulb package should tell you that), or a white balance setting in your video editing application. Or, in-between these two, some camera models produce slightly greenish results (Nikons quite often, maybe other brands too), that many video shooters try to correct in post. Thanks again.
@@Panzermeister36 The UA-cam thumbnail of this same video (when you are at your main Panzermeister39 page) shows a snapshot with much more neutral white balance, as if shot with a different setting/camera (I cannot upload the image here but it's easy to check). If you do a "mouseover" the thumbnail changes to a more yellowish one (it's more obvious in the white tissue background that turns from white to yellow). And once you click on the thumbnail to come to this page to see this particular video, the white balance changes overall. I wonder if it's a UA-cam thing?
Well I made the thumbnail in photoshop based off of a photo I took on my cell phone. The backdrop is just white as I cropped put stuff behind the StuG. So it's not taken with my video camera.
@@Panzermeister36 Ok hence the difference! thanks for the info... :-) . Still, the video's content and shooting technique is fantastic, I just thought you might be interested in the video-color side of things, it's a hard topic to master (even for professional videographers) with so many parameters affecting the end result. All the best!
I remember that O type,mini art...didnt make me a fan,large,multiple gates on large parts.Have just painted MKIV(cactus included)in desert colours,i chipped from oxide two greys and 7028,1001,then 'bleached' paint with oil's.Finally, i put sand pigment on it and it has come out bright yellow white.Do i go dark with a grey 'wash' as sooty dirt,or is it feasible to match it in with a light brown oil wash/filter to make it look more like real sand.It really soaks up pigment and stands out.Feel a bit 'hemmed in'.
Nice bud Ian. Glad your back and hoping we get your content more consistently going forward. A couple of questions if I might. 1) noticed your thinners are tinted. Why is that? 2) Did ALL panzer gray vehicles have the brown camo ?
The X-20A is tinted because that bottle of X-20A is actually my brush cleaner...not the bottle I use to thin paint. Not all the Grey tanks have brown, only the ones from 1937-1940. After the end of July 1940, all new tanks were grey and all the ones with brown camo were repainted to just grey. Then eventually they changed to dunkelgelb (dark yellow) base camouflage in early 1943.
Very good video! As always! I’ve a question regarding the use of Tamiya Lacquer thinner. I’ve never used it before. Can you use enamel weathering products directly on top of the lacquer thinner thinned paints or do you have to apply an acrylic clear coat first? Thanks in advance!
I have applked enamel filters and washes directly over my Tamiya paints thinned with lacquer thinner. It doesn't damage the base. However, you might still want to apply a varnish since the Tamiya paints will be very matte and it's difficult to wash over matte surfaces. I prefer semi gloss or satin finish for weathering.
It's nice video and information. Unfortunately, I don't know early StuG III had applied camouflage. Exactly, it's hard to confirm from monochrome photo.
The custom-mixed colours came out great! The camera made the grey look a little green oddly enough, but you can see in the wider shots that it’s a good mix. You had me worried at the start when you pulled out the blue paint. 😉 Love the Vanna White hand model sweep at 9:16! 😂😂😂
They should have if they served during the battles of France and Poland. In August 1940 all tanks were repainted to just grey so if it's a Panzer II A-C serving in Russia it would just have the Grey finish without brown.
You just blew my mind. Seriously. I am a modeller yes, but also I have been a history nut since I was a child. I never knew the early war German tanks through Poland and France had brown camo on top of the gray. I mean I just painted up and weathered a Panzer 38(t) in solid gray a week or so ago. After 1940 was this camo pattern switched for the solid gray? For example for invasion of Soviet Union in 41?
In 1940 they repainted tanks into solid grey finishes. So yes, during the invasion of Russia in summer 1941 they were no longer using the brown camouflage :) just overall grey.
Honestly I am not too sure about SS vehicles. They kind of did their own thing with paint sometimes since they were independent. So I would imagine earlier on they used their own paint colours.
@@Panzermeister36 hataka hobby paint sets have some info about pre war camos, they say a weird dark olive color was used on pre war non camouflaged vehicles. Man german camos are really confusing.
Excellent video - really well explained and demoed. I'm very keen on this camo - I'm more inspired to try it now, thanks. 👍Also, if you don't mind, who makes the StuG IV with the bulldozer blade? Cheers.
It's strange that everyone considers this camo pre war, since it was a standard until july of 1940 when all new vehicles are to be painted only in grey in order to save paint, so this camo would be on all german vehicles in poland and france.
This post is a bit out of place, but I didn't want to hijack your comment on Adam's 3D printer video. I print a lot of my own accessories, upgrades, and stowage, and have thought about reaching out to you for awhile now and seeing if you would be interested in reviewing it. I am totally an amateur and just do it as a hobby and sell some things on Ebay to off set the cost of my modeling and hobby addiction. But if you are interested we should chat. No strings attached, just wanting to help a fellow modeler.
The production value of this video is on another level, well done!
Thank you Martin :)
Hello guys. I just wanted to say a huge thank you, since earlier this week we passed 50,000 subscribers :D Discord server out soon. I hope you enjoy my video here today, and once you are finished, I recommend you go look at Scale Studio's video on painting and distressing Panzer Grey.
Thanks for making excellent content. You keep us coming back.
Glad you like it! I'm back at university now so I'm quite busy, but I'll do my best to keep making videos when I can :)
@ This is the MiniArt kit "StuG III 0-serie"
Passing 50,000 is well deserved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very interesting video, great advice for mixing paint. Also air pressure settings are always helpful. Saves time adjusting
Glad it was helpful!
Great explanations! Wondered where you had been. You probably do one of the better jobs explaining color and how to manipulate it. I just recently started using Tamiya's lacquer thinner for the very reason you stated. Dries rock solid!
Thank you Stephen. I have been quite busy with university lately as I am in the final year of my Aerospace Engineering degree. I try to put up a video whenever I can :)
Very nice work on the camo pattern. Looking forward to seeing the weathering
Thank you! Weathering will be the next steps...I am planning to keep it light as it was a vehicle used for training, not combat.
Just laid down the base colours on the interior of my Stug. It will be some what filthy and very dark in there😂
Beautiful! Very, very nice work
Awesome video! Great examples of early war camouflage and the explanation of why black and white film blends the red brown into the grey. I also appreciate your explanation of when filters can be useful and why they weren't in this instance. It seems like extra attention up front when painting the base colors can save time later by avoiding the need for a filter. I have seen some modelers use a filter over specific parts and panels as a way to add contrast, but I personally think that's easier done with oil paints in a post shading fashion (more like an oil dot filter as these premixed filters are often incredibly thin and perhaps difficult to control when a precise application is desired).
You're a great source of information and a magnificent teacher. Thank you .
Great and informative video, but I noticed a nice satin like sheen, is that from just the Tamiya paint thinned with the lacquer?
Yes. The smoother spraying the lacquer provides can give you a slightly shiny surface. My lights make it look more shiny than it is though!
This looks really good
Excellent explanation on how to apply filters. Thank you for sharing your techniques.
Thank you!
I watched a lot of different videos about modeling, but I liked your models the most! They are very, very realistic !!! It is very interesting to look at your finished models! I will learn from your lessons about painting models, and at the same time learn English! (I speak Russian) Thank you very much for making these videos, they are very helpful novice modelers!
Very useful video! Thank you!
Could we expect a German early war panzer from you?
@@Modkits131 maybe in future ;)
I’ve just completed the build on Dragon’s 1/35 Panzer III E so the timing of this video is perfect as I’ll be painting it grey and brown. Great video as always, love your work Evan. 😊👍👍👍
Hello. Your video it’s very good. Your explains about filters they’re superb. Thank you for more one good video. You Rock it 🤘🏾
Glad it was helpful!
good video and thanks for the informations und tips. it will sure help me if I start modelling again soon after a break of 20 years. 20 years ago I didnt know anything about primers, washes, brushes, techniques, I just made base color, some camo and the rest as shown in manuals
I am doing one these camo schemes on my benz campervan. Only I use flat black as the base... the flat black looks very much like a weathered dark grey, especially over time. for the brown I am debating whether or not I should mix in some black with the brown... I have to do some test pieces to see what is best looking...
Loving the Vanna White hand sweep at about the 9:15 mark! LAL! Perfect.
Paint job came out great as well.
Perfect video. I'm getting ready to paint my first panther and this helps.
*I know WW2 history like my pocket but there is also a detail which appears from time to time like this 2 tons camouflage of german vehicles. Thanks so much Panzermeister for this discovery.*
Ever thought of doing a grey and yellow scheme? It's quite unseen but super cool with the contrast differences.
Yes in fact I have a vehicle lined up for this! Yellow sprayed over a grey base. It's a very cool transitional scheme.
Hi Evan ... many thanks for the tutorial ... i didn't know about these early german camouflage! ... see you, cheers Make*
Thank you! I am glad you enjoyed.
slightly off topic but could you provide more info about the stug iv with the dozer mounted on front, it looks awesome!
That's an old project of mine from a while ago. I based it off of a photograph. There was a StuG IV and a Panther D that were modified late in the war to clear rubble after bombing raids. Google "Raumpanzer Panther" or Raumpanzer StuG IV".
Looks dope. Can’t wait to see it washed and weathered. Thanks for the info. Makes me want to build an early Stuuuuuug.
Good to see a new video from you. I always enjoy your work.
I never gave the early grey panzers a second look. Interesting.
I spray a dull coat after the camo to blend everything and seal the decals.
Would a dull coat be the same thing as a filter? I do like your results.
Great video, best i’ve seen illustrating filters, many thanks.
Some cool free hand skills there Evan .congrats on the 50k...well deserved
Nice video and nice work on painting the camo.
Hello!You painted the model with matt paints of the XF series,then why does the painted model gleam as if it was covered with a semi-gloss varnish?
Because I sprayed in thin coats and thinned the paint with lacquer thinner. It sprays super smooth that way.
@@Panzermeister36 Thanks for the answer! You probably talked about thinning paint with lacquer thinner in the video, but I don't know English well, so I didn't understand what you explained in the video.I use google translator, so I only understand what is written, unfortunately! ((((
Do you have a gallery of your finished models? If not you should have a vid where you show them off!
Very Nice & super helpful! I'll try this for my PzKpfw II Ausf.D Hopefully I'll do your instructions justice.
Excellent tutorial Evan! 👍 I enjoyed your discussion on base colors and filters although I prefer the muted look of adding a filter (but not my model 😉). I have had great results with Tamiya paints and Mr. Leveling Thinner (MLT). The paint sprays beautifully and dries to a very smooth, hard finish. I believe Tamiya has a leveling thinner as well but haven't tried it.
Btw, congrats on 50k, well deserved!!! 🍾
Great video. Nice to see some different paint schemes like this (the pre-1937 tri-colour scheme sounds intriguing too). Also a great demo of how the brown 'disappears' in black and white photos. Thanks!
Great video 👍👍👍👍👍 and a huge congrats on passing the 50,000 mark!!!
Great inspiration to finish my Panzer III B and start my Stug 0
Good information there Evan, i liked the discussion abut the filters in particular.
Thank you Michael! I hope you are doing okay this week and are not too bored.
My great grandfather was in ww2 in Asia, and went to Europe in 45 he photographed a panzer 1 with panzer grey with Green? It’s a color photo, not the best quality, but it’s green. Maybe a late war change, but anyway I think it’s still cool.
Later in the war, many tanks old tanks that had been used for training purposes ended up being put into service, so they sometimes had odd camouflage combinations.
@@Panzermeister36 that’s what I was thinking.
Great, great video and tutorial, of an often neglected topic, very well shot and explained, and I think you integrate the close-ups and wider shots very well in your final video edit, the whole video has a very nice, professional "flow". Congrats and thanks very much! Btw, many of your videos have a slight green-yellowish tint, have you noticed? It's east to see, when you know you are looking at a panzer grey vehicle (which should be neutral grey or sometimes with a slight - very slight - bluish tint), but it comes out quite greenish in fact. It could be either a greenish-yellowish cast of the actual lights that you are using when photographing/video shooting the models (very few desktop lights are really neutral, usually the Kelvin rating in the bulb package should tell you that), or a white balance setting in your video editing application. Or, in-between these two, some camera models produce slightly greenish results (Nikons quite often, maybe other brands too), that many video shooters try to correct in post. Thanks again.
Thank you. Yes I will take a look at it. I definitely noticed it when editing this video but I wasn't able to change the footage.
@@Panzermeister36 The UA-cam thumbnail of this same video (when you are at your main Panzermeister39 page) shows a snapshot with much more neutral white balance, as if shot with a different setting/camera (I cannot upload the image here but it's easy to check). If you do a "mouseover" the thumbnail changes to a more yellowish one (it's more obvious in the white tissue background that turns from white to yellow). And once you click on the thumbnail to come to this page to see this particular video, the white balance changes overall. I wonder if it's a UA-cam thing?
Well I made the thumbnail in photoshop based off of a photo I took on my cell phone. The backdrop is just white as I cropped put stuff behind the StuG. So it's not taken with my video camera.
@@Panzermeister36 Ok hence the difference! thanks for the info... :-) . Still, the video's content and shooting technique is fantastic, I just thought you might be interested in the video-color side of things, it's a hard topic to master (even for professional videographers) with so many parameters affecting the end result. All the best!
I remember that O type,mini art...didnt make me a fan,large,multiple gates on large parts.Have just painted MKIV(cactus included)in desert colours,i chipped from oxide two greys and 7028,1001,then 'bleached' paint with oil's.Finally, i put sand pigment on it and it has come out bright yellow white.Do i go dark with a grey 'wash' as sooty dirt,or is it feasible to match it in with a light brown oil wash/filter to make it look more like real sand.It really soaks up pigment and stands out.Feel a bit 'hemmed in'.
Sweet! Now i can keep on painting my Panzer II 😀👍🏻
Now I want to brush paint an early war panzer, thank you for the tutorial it looks great👍
Nice bud Ian. Glad your back and hoping we get your content more consistently going forward. A couple of questions if I might.
1) noticed your thinners are tinted. Why is that?
2) Did ALL panzer gray vehicles have the brown camo ?
The X-20A is tinted because that bottle of X-20A is actually my brush cleaner...not the bottle I use to thin paint.
Not all the Grey tanks have brown, only the ones from 1937-1940. After the end of July 1940, all new tanks were grey and all the ones with brown camo were repainted to just grey. Then eventually they changed to dunkelgelb (dark yellow) base camouflage in early 1943.
Also what airbrush and compressor do you use?
Evan can you tell me which color you used on the Stuh42 zimmerit ?
It was the first vehicle on which I used the (at-the-time) new Tamiya XF-88 "Dark Yellow 2".
@@Panzermeister36 thanks Evan
Very good video! As always! I’ve a question regarding the use of Tamiya Lacquer thinner. I’ve never used it before. Can you use enamel weathering products directly on top of the lacquer thinner thinned paints or do you have to apply an acrylic clear coat first? Thanks in advance!
I have applked enamel filters and washes directly over my Tamiya paints thinned with lacquer thinner. It doesn't damage the base. However, you might still want to apply a varnish since the Tamiya paints will be very matte and it's difficult to wash over matte surfaces. I prefer semi gloss or satin finish for weathering.
It's nice video and information. Unfortunately, I don't know early StuG III had applied camouflage. Exactly, it's hard to confirm from monochrome photo.
When i spary there is little dots next to the line they are quite small but dont look good. Do you know how to fix this?
The custom-mixed colours came out great! The camera made the grey look a little green oddly enough, but you can see in the wider shots that it’s a good mix. You had me worried at the start when you pulled out the blue paint. 😉 Love the Vanna White hand model sweep at 9:16! 😂😂😂
I had to look up who she was lol. Thank you Bruce!
@@Panzermeister36 oh yeah, sorry... I forgot you might not know who she is 😂😂😂
I've seen Wheel of Fortune, but I'm also too young to know all these things 😅
@@Panzermeister36 bahahahaha
hi! Do you think panzer 2 ausf A-C would have had this camo as well? thinking about using it as it looks quite neat.
They should have if they served during the battles of France and Poland. In August 1940 all tanks were repainted to just grey so if it's a Panzer II A-C serving in Russia it would just have the Grey finish without brown.
@@Panzermeister36 tank you!
You just blew my mind. Seriously. I am a modeller yes, but also I have been a history nut since I was a child. I never knew the early war German tanks through Poland and France had brown camo on top of the gray. I mean I just painted up and weathered a Panzer 38(t) in solid gray a week or so ago. After 1940 was this camo pattern switched for the solid gray? For example for invasion of Soviet Union in 41?
In 1940 they repainted tanks into solid grey finishes. So yes, during the invasion of Russia in summer 1941 they were no longer using the brown camouflage :) just overall grey.
@@Panzermeister36 Whew! My little Czech 38(t) is safe then!
Great job
Thank you
what diameter of the nozzle are you using?
I've read somewhere that SS police vehicles were painted in field gray, is this true? It's hard to find info on unusual german camo schemes.
Honestly I am not too sure about SS vehicles. They kind of did their own thing with paint sometimes since they were independent. So I would imagine earlier on they used their own paint colours.
@@Panzermeister36 hataka hobby paint sets have some info about pre war camos, they say a weird dark olive color was used on pre war non camouflaged vehicles. Man german camos are really confusing.
Excellent video - really well explained and demoed. I'm very keen on this camo - I'm more inspired to try it now, thanks. 👍Also, if you don't mind, who makes the StuG IV with the bulldozer blade? Cheers.
I made the plow conversion using a Dragon StuG IV Early and a Dragon Pz IV B snowplow kit.
@@Panzermeister36 Thanks.👍
It's strange that everyone considers this camo pre war, since it was a standard until july of 1940 when all new vehicles are to be painted only in grey in order to save paint, so this camo would be on all german vehicles in poland and france.
I have Micky Mouse pattern over mine, pretty cool.
This post is a bit out of place, but I didn't want to hijack your comment on Adam's 3D printer video. I print a lot of my own accessories, upgrades, and stowage, and have thought about reaching out to you for awhile now and seeing if you would be interested in reviewing it. I am totally an amateur and just do it as a hobby and sell some things on Ebay to off set the cost of my modeling and hobby addiction. But if you are interested we should chat.
No strings attached, just wanting to help a fellow modeler.
Sure thing! Email me at panzermeister36@gmail.com and we will discuss.
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