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  • Опубліковано 29 бер 2023
  • Check out Ben's Chessable courses here! www.chessable.com/author/BenF... Ben gets to 2800 AGAIN by beating GothamChess! [03-29-2023]
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  • @divangibran8007
    @divangibran8007 10 місяців тому +14

    "I will not be farmed for content today" -Levy
    **gets farmed**

  • @igorbednarski8048
    @igorbednarski8048 Рік тому +141

    >plays f3 and f6
    >Loses both games
    >doesn't play either f3 or f6
    >wins
    What did he mean by this?

    • @bauerch.
      @bauerch. Рік тому +9

      There seems to be some sort of pattern at play. Something one shouldn't do...

    • @gametime2473
      @gametime2473 Рік тому +1

      It's one of Ben's mantras, "never play f3"

    • @igorbednarski8048
      @igorbednarski8048 Рік тому +2

      @@bauerch. Yeah, seems like it, but I can't quite figure out the specifis 🧐🤔 maybe Ben Finegold should say something about "stuff you should never do in chess" or "moves you should never play", I'm certain it would help not just the viewers but himself as well.

    • @divangibran8007
      @divangibran8007 10 місяців тому +1

      It's not about the elo it's about sending a message

    • @JM-tj5qm
      @JM-tj5qm 5 місяців тому +1

      @igorbednarski8048
      Is mostly a joke. Every move can be good depending on the position.
      F3 usually weakens your king (unlike c3 because the bishop can block that diagonal) and takes away a good square for your knight

  • @anonymousAJ
    @anonymousAJ Рік тому +261

    glad to see Ben donating some rating points to help a struggling IM

    • @cranexe9035
      @cranexe9035 Рік тому +6

      Why are you so mean to Levy? He plays like a GM nowadays and is better than Finegold

    • @kule5391
      @kule5391 Рік тому +49

      @@cranexe9035 hilarious

    • @Morphysince94
      @Morphysince94 Рік тому +33

      ​@@cranexe9035 you could be a struggling comedian if you want to.

    • @cranexe9035
      @cranexe9035 Рік тому +3

      @@kule5391 Go learn spellings benjamin fan

    • @cranexe9035
      @cranexe9035 Рік тому

      @@Morphysince94 Ben mf didn't even get to participate to get the best chess streamer award. Gothamchess has more subs (3M in yt) and is a friend of the world speed chess champion (Hikaru Nakamura if you ben fans didn't know) and he also won the best chess streamer award haha

  • @mattgareau2913
    @mattgareau2913 Рік тому +36

    imagine playing an IM while your stomach is fighting DEEEEMONS

  • @giacomodibiase9464
    @giacomodibiase9464 Рік тому +82

    lol he also got to 2800 the first time by beating levy. some things never change I guess

  • @kevinwellwrought2024
    @kevinwellwrought2024 Рік тому +42

    Gotham is a gentleman because after getting two wins in a row he did not disappear but played another two games to make the match very fair and just!

  • @Blaisem
    @Blaisem Рік тому +25

    Ben lost all the ones he played F3 or F6 before the end game. Coincidence or justice?

  • @andrewptob
    @andrewptob Рік тому +24

    I appreciate that you used a Levy style thumbnail for the video.

  • @googooboyy
    @googooboyy Рік тому +15

    The classic and good ole lose 2 games then win 2 games tactic, played to perfection and boosted by a >2800 ELO achievement. A good day indeed.

    • @adomaskuzinas2137
      @adomaskuzinas2137 Рік тому +2

      To be fair, Ben already had >2800 before the mini-match

  • @ivandimitrov4410
    @ivandimitrov4410 Рік тому +4

    and he sacrifices THE ROOOOOOOOOK

  • @jaker721
    @jaker721 Рік тому +4

    That last game was sick!

  • @yamenashraf2495
    @yamenashraf2495 Рік тому +8

    That final laugh killed me 😂

  • @marksmit8575
    @marksmit8575 Рік тому +3

    4:28 look at the chair, he's got beads

  • @AyJayW
    @AyJayW Рік тому +17

    Finally the collaboration we've all been waiting for.

    • @Gush27
      @Gush27 Рік тому

      Yes finally (for the third time)

  • @pwnedd11
    @pwnedd11 Рік тому +7

    Ben Fiengold playing f3 and f6 in the same stream? Terrible.

  • @dpgsince85
    @dpgsince85 Рік тому +3

    havent seen it yet but I know Ill love it

  • @davidgriffiths7696
    @davidgriffiths7696 Рік тому +7

    Rook blunder too. Imagine the scene at Gotham. That huge pawn chain manoeuvre earlier was impressive, and effective. 2/2 Glad I was ere to see this.

  • @golddddus
    @golddddus Рік тому +4

    GM BenjaminFinegold played the move f3, prohibited by law in many countries. And he was duly punished for that.😉

  • @ravish6180
    @ravish6180 Рік тому

    0:29 I agree its quite hard to play bishopf4

  • @imeprezime1285
    @imeprezime1285 Рік тому

    Finished him nicely in the end

  • @jeremymayhem5599
    @jeremymayhem5599 Рік тому +2

    Second game is craziest position I've ever seen for the middle game lol

    • @jeremymayhem5599
      @jeremymayhem5599 Рік тому +3

      Five connected pawns with an untouchable knight at the end

  • @eduardciuca217
    @eduardciuca217 Рік тому +18

    go chess !!!

  • @throwaway7425
    @throwaway7425 Рік тому

    first game had some interesting looking positions

  • @maxfaberg128
    @maxfaberg128 Рік тому

    in the last game levy wouldn't sacifice THE ROOOOOOK

  • @GotYourWallet
    @GotYourWallet Рік тому +1

    Ben you're the best!

  • @twinn17s
    @twinn17s Рік тому +1

    Nice win 🏆

  • @BobChess
    @BobChess Місяць тому

    Ben forgot his own rule in the first two games. He lost both of them

  • @codevii9063
    @codevii9063 Рік тому

    That snicker at 23:04 😂

  • @chadmacgargle5311
    @chadmacgargle5311 Рік тому

    GO Super Ben GM!

  • @kmarasin
    @kmarasin Рік тому

    22:24 after Qh2, Qg7 intending Rh8, white in a lot of trouble

  • @neo_lowfade3618
    @neo_lowfade3618 Рік тому

    You sure showed him that third game 😮😮😮

  • @spye_8796
    @spye_8796 Рік тому

    Phew! The rematch click button conveniently stopped working at 2 all. Imagine a GM losing to a lapdog IM, a GM!!

  • @AdmatHakodesh
    @AdmatHakodesh Місяць тому

    Instructive quality wins by the GM. Ben is a legend.

  • @RadishAcceptable
    @RadishAcceptable 10 місяців тому

    Ben was hungry. This wasn't a fair match. Challenge again after eating dinner! Adopted for sure!

  • @williamwallace4080
    @williamwallace4080 Рік тому

    at 16:49 is Nxf5 a move?

  • @briliantinoprihandikakhari6754

    i love seeing levy getting destroyed, his losing expression is gold

  • @greennin
    @greennin Рік тому +1

    I opened a pack of chocolate chip cookies last night and didn't eat a single one. Nice surprise this morning, along with this video.

  • @davidgriffiths7696
    @davidgriffiths7696 Рік тому

    He’s getting boxed in game 3.

  • @riskyfil8955
    @riskyfil8955 Рік тому +1

    I usually cheer for Gotham but when I don’t it’s because he is playing Ben!

  • @randybailin4902
    @randybailin4902 Рік тому

    I don't use the expression 'riveting entertainment' very often. I just thought I'd mention that.

    • @georgepantzikis7988
      @georgepantzikis7988 Рік тому

      I don't use that phrase often either. And I thought I would also let you know that I probbably wouldn't use it to describe this video.

  • @Halibut86
    @Halibut86 Рік тому

    Go Levy!

  • @yotamchaimmoshe8013
    @yotamchaimmoshe8013 4 місяці тому

    1:44 the unthinkable…

  • @TheFilipFonky
    @TheFilipFonky Рік тому

    the poison rook...

  • @random9-548
    @random9-548 Рік тому +7

    Men, those goofy openings by Levy were really effective

    • @harrisonzhu3300
      @harrisonzhu3300 Рік тому +5

      How are they goofy

    • @macdonaldnnadi
      @macdonaldnnadi 3 місяці тому

      He actually has great opening prep, nothing goofy in those openings just they aren’t common.

  • @drnantz
    @drnantz Рік тому

    Fell asleep. Needed it.

  • @FrankBakulov
    @FrankBakulov 9 днів тому

    Is it comfortable for Ben to look at the screen at the angle?

  • @Deay782
    @Deay782 Рік тому

    0:46 jemig de pemig

  • @Guitarmaster7272
    @Guitarmaster7272 Рік тому

    3:20 is this not a free rook for black?? Why does he take with queen and not rook?

  • @sublimeade
    @sublimeade Рік тому

    THE ROOOK!!

  • @Bldyiii
    @Bldyiii Рік тому

    Crazy Cabbie vs. Stuttering John

  • @GregTurismo
    @GregTurismo Рік тому

    That chuckle was great 😂

  • @cr0mag732
    @cr0mag732 Рік тому

    6:55 what the f...6???

  • @johnblawn940
    @johnblawn940 Рік тому

    16:39 is it possible to sack your rook by taking on f5?

    • @amitgalor
      @amitgalor Рік тому +1

      It only works if black takes, but black can go Qa1 threatening mate on h1 and the rook is still hanging

    • @johnblawn940
      @johnblawn940 Рік тому +1

      ​@@amitgalor oooohh true, I didnt see that long range move...

  • @smerdyakovkb9782
    @smerdyakovkb9782 Рік тому

    BIG

  • @joeymurdazalotmore6355
    @joeymurdazalotmore6355 Рік тому

    Before I watch I'd be slapped if Gotham beat ben, damn braves fan , broke my heart u losing to the other guy

  • @davidgriffiths7696
    @davidgriffiths7696 Рік тому

    Did Gotham just blunder his queen? No comment, could happen to anyone.

  • @flukey111
    @flukey111 Рік тому +1

    Nice games...but I think we need a more commentary/explanation of moves to make it more enjoyable to the viewer.

    • @BMWE-hm7uz
      @BMWE-hm7uz Рік тому

      Someone has a massive sense of self importance.

    • @flukey111
      @flukey111 Рік тому +7

      Sure...the perspective of viewers is completely irrelevant to a streamer. Good luck with that.

    • @BMWE-hm7uz
      @BMWE-hm7uz Рік тому

      @flukey111 Ben has been streaming for like 10 years or more, I'm sure he knows what works for his audience and no one else has said anything. Go to chesskid for a few months and you won't need explanations when it comes to adult chess

    • @radscorpion8
      @radscorpion8 5 місяців тому

      @@flukey111 some viewers don't need someone constantly talking in the background to enjoy a game :)

  • @RafaelEKH
    @RafaelEKH Рік тому +4

    3:00 Why is he trembling that much?

    • @aprayingatheist2378
      @aprayingatheist2378 Рік тому +3

      Because he feels like Levi and other chess streamers are stealing awayviewership and therefore income from him. That's why he messed up so much the first two games, he totally hates this guy.
      And then all of a sudden this guy comes into your stream and starts demolishing you when you're a GM😂
      I can understand why he be shaking with anger

    • @aprayingatheist2378
      @aprayingatheist2378 Рік тому +1

      Or a vibrating chair, yeah probably just a vibrating chair actually

    • @johnybalohny
      @johnybalohny Рік тому +6

      It's Karen giving hints through the beads.

    • @chrisoliver4663
      @chrisoliver4663 Рік тому +1

      @@johnybalohny lol

    • @GazAllTheJuice
      @GazAllTheJuice Рік тому +3

      @@johnybalohny Its veganism

  • @geekconnoisseur
    @geekconnoisseur Місяць тому

    What's going on with Ben under his table? He's constantly shaking! And those facial expressions to go with it... quite unsettling, to say the least.

  • @MrLuridan
    @MrLuridan Рік тому +2

    10:49 Did Ben miss the Mother Of All Forks?

    • @maxzweistein8951
      @maxzweistein8951 Рік тому

      Don't think so, his king was attacked. And after the rook moved to f1 the fork was no longer possible.

    • @CreepyKillerNL
      @CreepyKillerNL Рік тому +3

      The king is in check

    • @random9-548
      @random9-548 Рік тому

      Rxf7 comes with check...

  • @thatllputmarzipaninyourpie3117

    New to chess. Someone told me Gotham was a joke. Guess not.

  • @DeadalusX
    @DeadalusX Рік тому

    gg

  • @countingongod3900
    @countingongod3900 Рік тому

    At 10:54 you could have mated him if he didn't move close to his white pawn on g3. F2, Knight blocking forking king and queen and then your queen takes g3, mate.

  • @King.Mark.
    @King.Mark. 3 місяці тому

    do any of them get to be a river ?

  • @GregTurismo
    @GregTurismo Рік тому

    The truth hurts

  • @georgepeters4536
    @georgepeters4536 Рік тому +1

    Blunder like a Grandmaster!

  • @playermartin286
    @playermartin286 Рік тому

    Losing two times against a guy he’s constantly talking shit about? Kind of embarrassing

  • @jumbleofwords
    @jumbleofwords Рік тому

    Down with big Ben! Down with big Ben! Down with big Ben!

  • @KidNoah2012
    @KidNoah2012 Рік тому +1

    The Jobava London is not a sound opening. It's popular because people like saying 'Jobava'. "Oh yeah? I got jobava right here, dangling..." "Jobava so fat when she goes camping the bears hide their food". Jobava so fat, when she went to KFC and the cashier asked what size bucket she wanted, she said, "The one on the roof!". And so forth.

  • @chessguru900
    @chessguru900 Рік тому +2

    Ben you need to turn off the vibrator on your chair.

  • @wordpress4373
    @wordpress4373 Рік тому

    You can even beat IM, what kind of GM are you?

    • @dowaliby1
      @dowaliby1 Рік тому +1

      I am confused by your comment. Did you mean to say CAN'T even beat IM? They were obviously BOTH able to beat each other: two wins for the IM; two wins for the GM. Just because a GM loses to an IM does not mean he does not deserve to be a GM. GM's are still human and humans sometimes make mistakes. Ben's rating is 2800. That's phenomenal.

  • @dirtydeadasheville
    @dirtydeadasheville Рік тому +3

    A lot of viewers don't seem to know GM Finegold is a lifelong student and grandmaster of the game - and we are lucky to have access to him in the generous way he makes himself and his work accessible to us. He'll probably have a line named after him someday. Just something to keep in mind. Oh and we love Levy too of course!

    • @TheTastefulThickness
      @TheTastefulThickness Рік тому +1

      Whose we? It is possible to speak for yourself and not imagine you hold some representative position

    • @georgepantzikis7988
      @georgepantzikis7988 Рік тому +1

      I don't think there's a single person who watched that video and didn't know Ben is a GM, but whatever I guess.

    • @LizaFan
      @LizaFan Рік тому

      Smith-Morra, Finegold Defense

  • @philipbourgeois6631
    @philipbourgeois6631 Рік тому

    Whats the beef with you two?? Love both of you!

    • @travischampagne3252
      @travischampagne3252 Рік тому +2

      He is jealous of the money that levy makes a lot of GM’s are.

    • @Karlyr_
      @Karlyr_ Рік тому

      ​@@travischampagne3252 If that's the case... They should try making chess entertaining instead of being jealous.

    • @travischampagne3252
      @travischampagne3252 Рік тому +1

      @@Karlyr_ while I agree with you…. A lot of GM’s don’t

  • @powergi3996
    @powergi3996 Рік тому

    Gotham is GM level or Ben is IM level?

    • @dowaliby1
      @dowaliby1 Рік тому +2

      Gotham is IM; Ben is GM.

  • @ggobbler
    @ggobbler Рік тому

    W

  • @Chessisthegamee
    @Chessisthegamee Рік тому

    A lotta levy haters in this comment section for no reason chess is all in good fun. Stop being ignorant little children

  • @danielduranloosli
    @danielduranloosli Рік тому

    How can anyone make a stream this boring? Does he not care?

  • @loganmyall660
    @loganmyall660 Рік тому +1

    Forgive me if I'm wrong, but being a fan of both Ben and Levy, it seems to me that although they're both great players in both formats, Bens skills are probably more towards rapid time formats, while Levy is better suited for classical chess. Ben is best playing tricky attacking games. Levy is just pretty well rounded with a much better understanding of the game than someone as bad as me.

    • @BMWE-hm7uz
      @BMWE-hm7uz Рік тому +9

      levy has a better understanding of the game than a GM, a GM who bumped shoulders with Kasparov? what are you talking about dude!
      no i wont forgive you, yes you are wrong.

    • @SuperAWaC
      @SuperAWaC Рік тому +2

      Blitz, Rapid and Slow chess are all completely different versions of chess and you play them with completely different strategies. You get individuals who are very good at faster time controls but get absolutely crushed by their peers in slower time formats (Hikaru, etc.) and then you have the reverse where someone can be really good at slower time controls but get crushed in faster time formats. Then you have the odd ducks like Magnus who aren't half bad regardless of time control

    • @JanischMaximilian
      @JanischMaximilian Рік тому +2

      @@BMWE-hm7uz that’s not what the original comment said, the original comment only claimed that Levy is better at chess than the OP, which is probably correct

    • @georgepantzikis7988
      @georgepantzikis7988 Рік тому +1

      I think you got the names backwards. Levy won both games where he could launch a big attackor play tricky openings, which is better suited to fast time formats. Both times Ben won it was a slower, more methodical game, which suits a classical game.

    • @waltlock8805
      @waltlock8805 Рік тому +2

      Levy is much better blitz than classical.

  • @TheTastefulThickness
    @TheTastefulThickness Рік тому

    Go levy rosswoman

  • @johnathanpratt944
    @johnathanpratt944 Рік тому +3

    This comment section does not pass the vibe check

  • @zacharysherry2910
    @zacharysherry2910 Рік тому

    Hi I'm Gothamchess and you're not

  • @BongelaMnguni
    @BongelaMnguni Рік тому +4

    Too weak too old

    • @juhonieminen4219
      @juhonieminen4219 Рік тому +11

      Terrible. Never play f3.

    • @qazzaqstan
      @qazzaqstan Рік тому +1

      @@juhonieminen4219 Also we can pronounce his name so he must be bad (and apparently so is Magnus)

    • @juhonieminen4219
      @juhonieminen4219 Рік тому

      @@qazzaqstan Too short Wkipedia article is a tell.

  • @CrackmiserGaming
    @CrackmiserGaming Рік тому +3

    epic jew battles of history

    • @michaelrose93
      @michaelrose93 Рік тому +1

      1/3 of all world champions, 50% of all top players...

  • @vengeance8924
    @vengeance8924 Рік тому +2

    I hope Ben loses every single game. It’s his delivery. It’s the way he sips that discusting beverage. His opinions on cheating and everything else. He draws out every conversation to the point you forget wtf he’s talking about like adhd

  • @Bai_Su_Zhen
    @Bai_Su_Zhen Рік тому

    Gotham gone ham and got him.