A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws
Issac Asimov's "Three Laws of Robotics" 1: A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. 2: A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. 3: A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
I have NEVER been more excited to listen to a lyrical analysis. (I think Zonia will have a lot to say about this.) I wish you guys had watched the video though. FYI: The opening is Stephen Hawking. The clean vocals are Bjorn from Soilwork. Funny you guys mentioned Ne Obliviscaris because they toured together.
@Jen: I guess that I have to thank you to suggest this one in the Underground? I never woke up more excited then this day seeing Vin and Sori chose Allegaeon.
So glad you guys finally did a song from Allegaeon, these guys are amazing. The clean vocals in this song were from guest vocalist Bjorn Strid from Soilwork, my favorite melodic death metal band. They have an amazing catalog of albums, but I still love the first two albums best. Not much clean vocals on them (although I do love his clean vocals on the later stuff), but the songs are amazing. I highly recommend Machinegun Majesty off the album the Chainheart Machine.
Another great review, keep it up you two, thanks for doing this song, it’s the first time I’ve heard them. I am already downloading more of their songs. 😎
Yes! More bands that y'all haven't covered yet! Keep it up you two! Sabaton - To Hell and Back music video Celtic Frost - A Dying God Coming Into Human Flesh Immolation - Father, You're Not A Father lyric video Steel Panther - Party Like Tomorrow Is The End of the World music video Kamelot - Descent of the Archangel lyric video Edguy - Vain Glory Opera
Thats a LOL, just was arguing about ALLEGAENON in the comments below your previous video. Personally I would pick another song of theirs, but glad you noticed this band.
@@guysimple8491 Grey Matter Mechanics sounds quite different I would say. This song is their most "Accessible". But from Sori's comments I think she would have actually liked Grey Matter Mechanics alot more.
The Black Dahlia Murder - The Window, The Lonely Deceased, Deathmask Devine, Abysmal, Closed Casket Requiem, I Will Return, Denounced Disgraced, Crucifed in Cruciform, Nocturnal, Funeral Thirst, Miscarriage, Dave Goes to Hollywood, Statutory Ape Moonlight Equilibrium. Please give any of those songs a listen.
The law of 3 is a Wicca/Pagan tenet- what ever energy a person puts out (good or bad) it will be returned to that person threefold x Thankyou for playing this song/band. Love them x 🤘🤘
Finally finally finally! I love this entire album, one of the best discoveries I've made in 2018. You have to see the clip of this song, you're going to be surprised.
Its awesome you guys guessed the law of 3 correctly. If you guys wanns find that out go listen to part 1 and 2 now! 3 is always the best to start with though. It has the best sounding song, in my opinion my favorite song by them is this one. But to connect the dots listen to 1 and 2 now. This entire album is top notch. Oh! This song features 2 people. 1 is a vocalist, who i cant remember his band right now, and he does the cleans and you can also hear his harsh vocals mixed in with the vocalist of Allegaeon through out the song, he has the higher pitched vocal. And the second solo is a guest guitarist, whos name i cannot remember. They also did a cover of Rush, and its amazing.
Got the chance to see these guys open for Ne Obliviscaris last december. Sick show with such awesome musicianship from both bands Would love to see a video with Fleshgod Apocalypse. Under Black Sails, The Violation, and A Million Deaths are my favorites by them. Super cool stuff, also very heavy metal
Vin: Did you see my topic in The Village Entrance from about a month back that was a follow-up on the original AI discussion? It's a long one, but if you read through it you might find yourself in doubt about the feasibility of artificial sentience.
Zonia Harris a few of us also posted videos showing how far AI and robot tech has come, including tech that the military claimed they wouldn’t use (but we know they currently are).
@@Raijin-RyuX24 Yeah, unless you're actively involved in AI, it's hard to understand how far it has come. Those of us who work with it on a daily basis (even when we're off work) are well aware of how far it has come and how hardware has evolved to advance AI development, yet are still surprised by the results. I have a Neural Compute Stick 2 on its way to me right now and in the last few years I have been dumping source data like mad onto Google Cloud and running DL models on them. In the work place, we can't even understand the decision making of our own models, today. The logic is basically a black box, at this point. AI tech is evolving so rapidly, statements like what Vin made show how far behind everyone else is on understanding what is going on in the field.
Good song, enjoyed it. I really like the wall of sound the rhythm guitar(s) create during the outro. I see that current Scar Symmetry guitarist Ben Ellis does the leads in this song, & Björn Strid of Soilwork the clean vocals. Love how he sings the line, "The majority will benefit, so erase this carbon plague." This song seems to be saying that A.I. beings will end up being just like us, beings that would rather conquer over, instead of cooperate with.
@@markblaauw4961 Oh, ok, thanks for the correction. The credits I've read on two different sites only mention Ben. Ok, listening more closely I can hear the difference in lead guitar tone, I'm guessing that middle solo is Ben?
You say they rely a lot on their lead guitarist which would be Michael I guess but Greg and Michael both take lead parts and in some other songs, which I hope you check out, Greg does some mind blowing stuff. In fact I'm a huge fan of how they integrate classical acoustic guitar into some of their songs which is all Greg.
Great song!🤘I like that you guys are doing more music that is different than you were doing in the beginning. Keep it up, keep branching out. You’re channel has been introducing me to new bands and new music. I appreciate it. I know everyone is always like when are they gonna do their requests, like “when are they gonna do Architects - A Match Made In Heaven”. But I know there’s only so much time in the day. You guys have a lot going on and we need to have patience. So we’ll keep watching and waiting. You guys are awesome!
These guys are technical death metal though, just so you know. But for prog, you can do some Tesseract - Of Matter Live In Studio!!! There are 3 songs together. The album has groups of songs, and titled Altered State. First are 3 Of Matter songs, 2 are Of Mind, theres Of Body, and cannot remember the last one, maybe Of Soul. And these guys are next level prog as well. This album in particular, is probably the best Progressive metal album out there. Also Attempt #7
Technical/progressive really. They aren't techy enough to be true tech death and to techy to be just progressive death. They are one of these bands where I really hate the idea of shoving a band into genres.
@@khellendross3573 Tesseract? I think there is no doubt they are prog imho. You could argue that they have tech aspects. But they are pretty solidly prog.
I must admit I often mix these guys and Fallujah up because both do that sci-fi based, melodic and technical death metal sound. Really dig the cameos on this song. Soilwork was a gateway band for more extreme bands because Bjorn is great at singing and growling. The AI discussion certainly opens a big old can of worms. I’ve definitely heard some notable people voice concerns about what the future of AI has in store for us. Most are worried once AI has the ability to improve itself
No you haven't done them, cause I've also been asking for these guys! Thanks for finally doing it, although this particular song wouldn't be my #1 choice, but it aint bad. Long live nerd tech death metal!
Gotcha. Maybe they should do that Rush cover? I think those are the only two they do that have cleans. Can't wait for the new album which should be out soon!
Btw the reference in the song for the "law of three" it's a reference to Issac Asimov, one of the greatest science fiction writers. It's a reference to the law of robotics in his writings about artificial Inteligence. His laws of robotics go like this 1st a robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. 2nd a robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the first law. 3rd a robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the first or second law. He explore this in his book I, Robot. A movie about the book was made with Will Smith.
Guess I have to suggest something else now😊. We're you surprised? Then try another masterpiece of them: Grey matter mechanics. Or revisit The Black Dahlia Murder: Nightbringers
@@nghb2023 Hey, we had also contact a day before my birthday 😄And that was almost two months ago😅. You don't know how I felt this morning when I checked wat was uploaded. Wow.
It's funny how I had no idea the guitar player for Scar Symmetry played in this, yet for some reason after a short while it reminded me of Scar Symmetry... and then I heard Bjorn's voice (from Soilwork)... and yeah, the whole thing just sounded very "European" to me (I'm saying that because I know they're an American band). Didn't sound like Periphery at all to me, which is a good thing, as I really dislike both Periphery's vocals, and the "djent sound" which annoys the hell out of me in general. This had a nice combo of being technical yet still extremely melodic like a normal Scandinavian Melodeath band. All in all, I like it, but I already knew that, I've heard this before, just not with as much attention I guess. And I feel like with my mentions to Scar Symmetry and Soilwork, I should once again suggest you guys to check out some more "Scandinavian" band, not that you haven't listen to a bunch of them (Amorphis, Messhugah, etc) but, for example, you've done At the Gates and In Flames, pioneers of the "gothenburg scene" (Melodeath), and also but have yet to listen to Dark Tranquillity. Or Insomnium, a later band, who have been making consistently great melodeath since they appeared. And then there's Edge of Sanity, a band that put out one of the best Concept Albums ever (Crimson), in my opinion. A band led by Dan Swano, a legend of the scene. The guy's a record producer, who produced albums from bands like Opeth, and he has sang both Death Vocals and Clean Vocals for multiple bands, and plays the drums, and the guitar, and the bass... oh yeah, and the Keyboards too. He has put out albums where he did it all, like "Moontower". So yeah, some Edge of Sanity would be cool... Crimson is only 1 song, a 40 minute song, but something like "Twilight" from the previous album is also pretty good.
I can see why Vin would get Periphery for two reasons. The ultra clean production and the breakdown part in the middle. Notice even sori said "depends on the time" when Vin said it sounded like Periphery., There aren't to many bands that sound like Allegaeon, but I would say it actually sounds less European to me and more American/Australian because parts of it remind me of Ne Oblivscaris and Revocation. But I guess the closest musically speaking would be bands like Obscura, Beyond Creation and Persefone.
Got to see these guys live on their tour with NeO last year. Honestly I feel they're even better live, though the studio versions are obviously amazing as well. You guys gotta check out Grey Matter Mechanics by them though.
So happy you did an allagaeon song! This is not my favourite song of theirs but I can see why it was suggested. Very interesting subject matter. Thumps up to whoever suggested this song. I'm with Vin on this one, I too believe that it is impossible to create a completely free intelligence, one part of intelligence comes from something transcendent that cannot be manufactured. Also if it was not true, I would not know why someone would want to create something like that. However, some moral judgements may be made based on logic too. However again, if these beings were so intelligent, they would see how the evil deeds, even if evil are not illogical. Hence they would see the logic that drives humans to do the sins and hence would spare us, maybe!
”The birth of Abigail would soon be realized. The second coming of a devil in disguise”... We need the full review of King Diamond’s Abigail album, right? You want to get the full story now that you’ve already heard song ”Abigail” 😉
hello people i have a question! im now a villager on Vinandsori.com and my question is: how does the song requesting work? i went to requests & pols and made a request on one of the categories (blackfyre, underground, mainstage) and after that i didnt see it in the list... did i do something wrong or does it need to be voted a few time to show or does it show up later and so on?
Vin is right by the way, I think we are meant to maybe not necessarily agree with the AI's extermination of man, but we should completely understand it. I mean it is completely rational. A super intelligent learning AI would see what we have done and continue to do to each other and based on how we pass on knowledge to our children, probably determine that we are far more of a danger to the planet (and ourselves) and as such we should be wiped out completely. The part at the beginning by the way is Professor Stephen Hawking. So I would say that if anyone has a right to be furious with God, and be convinced in his lack of existance, it would be one of the smartest and brilliant minds in the world who was crippled by ALS. Two interesting quotes by Mr. Hawking might be of interest to you Vin. "We are each free to believe what we want and it is my view that the simplest explanation is there is no God. No one created the universe and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realisation. There is probably no heaven, and no afterlife either. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe, and for that, I am extremely grateful" and more importantly.... "If you like, you can call the laws of science ‘God,’ but it wouldn’t be a personal God that you would meet and put questions to." That last quote is a pretty crazy one and really makes you think. If one believes in God, how does one perceive of something so powerful? Do we characterize God in the manner that we do simply because we lack the frame of reference and the ability to comprehend something so powerful? And might that be mistaken for a law of nature, or vice versa? Interesting thoughts. Wether or not you can get behind his thoughts on religion and philosophy, there is no denying that he was a towering genius in the world of science.
it has less to do with the length than fatigue factor I think. They did longer songs from Iced Earth, Vektor and Ne O and had no issue. Especially with Allegaeon its a rather blistering assault of highly technical riffs. Though this wasn't even a longer song from them.
The number three has been used since time immemorial to describe the fundamental attributes, principles or personalities of God and the forces of Nature. For example: Christian - Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Taoist - Yin, Yang, Tao Hinduism - Brahma is the creator, Shiva is the destroyer, Vishnu is the preserver. Hinduism - The Three Gunas - Rajas, Tamas, Sattva. Zoroastrian - Ahura Mazda is the father of two twin spirits, Angra Mainyu is the destructive one, Spenta Mainyu is the holy spirit. Egyptian - Re was his face; Ptah his body; and Amun his hidden identity Sumerian - Anu is the father, Enlil is the wind-god of the earth, Enki is the god of waters and wisdom. Etruscan - Tinia, Uni, and Menerva. Roman - Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva. Also, one of the fundamental laws of the universe in Beelzebub's Tales is called "Triamazikamno" (The Law of Three), and it's a direct manifestation of the triune nature of His Endlessness as it is expressed in the universe. Gurdjieff defined the triune nature of His Endlessness as three forces - Active, Passive and Neutral. The three Laws of the second note of the Ray of Creation are the direct manifestation of His Endlessness and this is called the Theomertmalogos by Gurdjieff in Beelzebub's Tales. It is the basis of all the structures and processes within the universe and man. The most important structurally related application for humans is with the formation of an harmonious interrelatedness of the three centers of human consciousness, Intellect, Body and Emotions, in a state known as All-Brains-Balanced-Being-Perception. Gurdjieff called this aspect of the Work and its related repetoire of exercises 'Conscious Labor.' Gurdjieff defined the process of interaction of the three forces as the "harnel-miatznel," where the higher blends with the lower in order together to actualize the middle, and thus to become either higher for the preceding lower or lower for the succeeding higher. The most important process related application of the Law of Three in the Work is with the transformation of energies for our Being by the exercise of the two Conscious Shocks. Gurdjieff called this aspect of the Work 'Intentional Suffering.' In Beelzebub's Tales, the following prayer describes the process of "harnel-miatznel" as it is used in transforming energies for our Being: Holy-Affirming, Holy-Denying, Holy-Reconciling, Transubstantiate in me, For My Being. This prayer is referred to as the Holy Equation or the Holy Affirming Prayer. The Holy Equation acts as a shock in the octave of evolution. It is the formula for the 1st and 2nd Conscious Shocks. As we know from studying the Ray of Creation, the shocks are composed of three notes of a Lateral Octave, each note representing one of the forces of the Law of Three. The Holy Equation, being based on the Law of Three, has the structure required for supplying the two Conscious Shocks. Gurdjieff speaks of the threefoldness of the creation as a fundamental cosmic law. He calls this law Triamazikamno, “I put three together.” In the ultimate, cosmic scheme, the Theomertmalogos is the Holy Affirming and the Etherokrilno the Holy Denying. The whole working of the universe, particularly through life, is the Reconciling.(J.G. Bennett, Talks on Beelzebub's Tales) The universe is a being with three centers corresponding to our own; their material aspect is comprised of vibration-rates which appear to us as substances. The universe is the body of God; it is the neutralizing force of the Sun Absolute, the manifestation of the interaction of the positive and negative forces of God. We live in the body of God, are made in the image of God and God's 'fancy' is immortality. God is the "I" of the universe, is termed His Endlessness and is not inferior to time. Time is a perpetual perishing. It is the enemy of God. He has a purpose. Our Hope depends on our ability to discover His purpose and co-operate with it. This is the definition of religion, helping God. (A. R. Orage) Additionally, The Vedic system of knowledge is based on a tripartite approach to the universe where connections exist in triples in categories of one group and across groups: sky, atmosphere, earth; object, medium, subject; future, present, past; and so on. Beyond the triples lies the transcendental “fourth”. Three kinds of motion are alluded to in the Vedic books: these are the translational motion, sound, and light which are taken to be “equivalent” to earth, air, and sky. The fourth motion is assigned to consciousness; and this is considered to be infinite in speed. (Unknown) I don't know how or if this applies to this song at all, but it's an interesting read.
Been requesting this song particularly on and off since near the beginning. Glad to see Jen finally got it to happen. Incredible band. They toured with Ne O a year or so ago. Other good ones by them are Grey Matter Mechanics (which is pretty unique in its sound) and 1.618 which you should only do if you watch the official video (it won't get blocked I don't think). This was the right song to start with as its the most "accessible" song from them. Go back and watch the video just to fully understand just how insanely talented these guys are. Most of the work between both guitarists (they both have solos in this song) is done on 8 string guitars for starters. Ben from Scar Symmetry also has a great solo with a really cool tapped arpeggio run. And of course the legendary Bjorn from Soilwork on guest vocals. Legendary singer. This song is a easy 10 for me and one of my favorite bands as of late. Also their singer streams on twitch, very nice guy. I should note that this band does not have a rhythm and lead guitarist per say. Both guitarists trade back and forth on the solos. However on songs where there is acoustic work that is all Greg (the guy with the long hair).
Been suggesting this one here since the end of August. Every single day. I really don't know what to suggest next😊. They've got loads of more amazing stuff. Perhaps I have to give my thumbs up to Helloween 👍
i think the law of 3 is reffering to the 3 laws of robotics but im not sure... someone correct me if im wrong: First Law - A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. Second Law - A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. Third Law - A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws
HI guys! In regards to your question, "what is the law of three?", this is a reference to science fiction author Isaac Asimov's "Three Laws of Robotics". 1 - A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. 2- A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. 3 - A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law. Your videos are fantastic. Never stop!
Good song, I never heard of this band before so I was expecting something more "blackish" (closer to Agalloch style) but it was good. The whole A.I. thing sounds like something completely unavoidable it just a matter of time. Please react to "Nothing Is Not" by Morbid Angel and "In Their Darkened Shrines" by Nile.
Please give BETWEEN THE BURIED AND ME another go! Do "Swim to the Moon". And yes I'm sure you've figured out after the last one they do concept albums ;)
Well, about the guitarists, the intro and a lot of the stuff you hear is actually the rhythm guitar hahaha, they are both very talented, I have some great vids of this song live :)
Hey guys love your work. Would love to see a reaction to Alien Weaponry - Kai Tangata. I would also like to hear Vins thoughts on Sentinel Island and what happened there this week.
Hey guys just became a patreo, i know you do alot of metal music which i have no problem with, listened to alot of it when i was younger. My my music choice has changed drastically lol. I have a different type of music choice for ya, Chris Stapleton Tennesse Whiskey. Its listed as country but i think youll love it!
People are engrained of robots taking over cause of films but it makes for a metal song you could write from a artificial intelligence god that helped the world or saved all. Check out the movie Chappie.
"Law of 3" is in reference to Issac Asimov's 3 Laws of Robotics from his novels.
A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm
A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws
"Would you ever create something that has it's own will, and is able to walk around" ..
"NO!"
...you have 5 kids :D
That was hilarious
Sad
I thought the same thing lmao
It's a Christian household, they're not allowed free will... 😂😂😂/s/s/s etc etc
Issac Asimov's "Three Laws of Robotics"
1: A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2: A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3: A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
They have probably the absolute best cover of Rush's Subdivisions soo good
ALLEGAEON - 1.618!!!!!! ALLEGAEON - 1.618!!!!!! ALLEGAEON - 1.618!!!!!! ALLEGAEON - 1.618!!!!!!
I have NEVER been more excited to listen to a lyrical analysis. (I think Zonia will have a lot to say about this.) I wish you guys had watched the video though.
FYI: The opening is Stephen Hawking. The clean vocals are Bjorn from Soilwork. Funny you guys mentioned Ne Obliviscaris because they toured together.
Was gonna say the same. There's also a guest solo in there by Ben from Scar Symmetry.
Blu-HAWT FUZZ I know Ben more from Bloodshot Dawn, but also from Scar Symmetry.
I was going to comment about the Soilwork and Scar Symmetry vibes I got in the song. Bjorn singing the chorus makes a lot of sense, now.
I saw them on their tour with NeO! They're phenomenal live
@Jen: I guess that I have to thank you to suggest this one in the Underground? I never woke up more excited then this day seeing Vin and Sori chose Allegaeon.
:)
Gorod - Transcendence
SepticFlesh - vampire of nazareth
SHYLMAGOGHNAR - No Child Of Man Could Follow
Amorphis - Nightbird's Song
They REALLY need to listen to Gorod, such an awesome band
OMG Gorod Transcendence, yes please!!!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO GRAY MATTER MECHANICS. THE ACOUSTICS ARE JUST..... AMAZING
shraggrath I would have suggested that, but there’s no clean vocals. That’s why I avoided it.
@@jen.g. interestingly it seems Sori would have preferred that. That was my reasoning to.
Khellendross I know. Kinda surprised!
Yes that is their best song.
SO MUCH THIS!!!
Their song All Hail Science is amazing!
So glad you guys finally did a song from Allegaeon, these guys are amazing. The clean vocals in this song were from guest vocalist Bjorn Strid from Soilwork, my favorite melodic death metal band. They have an amazing catalog of albums, but I still love the first two albums best. Not much clean vocals on them (although I do love his clean vocals on the later stuff), but the songs are amazing. I highly recommend Machinegun Majesty off the album the Chainheart Machine.
You guys need to do Allegaeon - 1.618 music video. Please. It's amazing. Allegaeon is a band that doesn't take themselves seriously.
My buddy Brandon is Allegaeon's bassist ^_^
Another great review, keep it up you two, thanks for doing this song, it’s the first time I’ve heard them. I am already downloading more of their songs. 😎
Opeth - Demon of the Fall!!
Wow, never heard of this band before and I'm a big Soilwork fan. Sounds great, now you need to check out some Soilwork!
Yes! More bands that y'all haven't covered yet! Keep it up you two!
Sabaton - To Hell and Back music video
Celtic Frost - A Dying God Coming Into Human Flesh
Immolation - Father, You're Not A Father lyric video
Steel Panther - Party Like Tomorrow Is The End of the World music video
Kamelot - Descent of the Archangel lyric video
Edguy - Vain Glory Opera
YESS I WAS REQUESTING IT FOR SUCH A LONG TIME, LOVE YOU
Wooooooooooooooooolooow! !! I was suggesting this one since the end of August every single day. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah. So thank you.
I liked the clean vocals.
Theocracy- I Am
Theocracy- Mirror of Souls
Anathema- Internal Landscapes
Thats a LOL, just was arguing about ALLEGAENON in the comments below your previous video. Personally I would pick another song of theirs, but glad you noticed this band.
Also, they are pretty much different in their songs, so you might be very suprised when pick another song.
@@guysimple8491 Grey Matter Mechanics sounds quite different I would say. This song is their most "Accessible". But from Sori's comments I think she would have actually liked Grey Matter Mechanics alot more.
The Black Dahlia Murder - The Window, The Lonely Deceased, Deathmask Devine, Abysmal, Closed Casket Requiem, I Will Return, Denounced Disgraced, Crucifed in Cruciform, Nocturnal, Funeral Thirst, Miscarriage, Dave Goes to Hollywood, Statutory Ape Moonlight Equilibrium.
Please give any of those songs a listen.
So excited for this one. Love this band, saw them live like 3 times or so. Super nice guys
Next should be All Hail Science, it's another interesting song with good knowledgable writing
The law of 3 is a Wicca/Pagan tenet- what ever energy a person puts out (good or bad) it will be returned to that person threefold x
Thankyou for playing this song/band. Love them x 🤘🤘
MORS PRINCIPIUM EST - Reclaim The Sun
Finally finally finally! I love this entire album, one of the best discoveries I've made in 2018. You have to see the clip of this song, you're going to be surprised.
you should definitely do their song 1.618 and watch the video. Dudes are both talented and funny as hell
Its awesome you guys guessed the law of 3 correctly. If you guys wanns find that out go listen to part 1 and 2 now! 3 is always the best to start with though. It has the best sounding song, in my opinion my favorite song by them is this one. But to connect the dots listen to 1 and 2 now. This entire album is top notch.
Oh! This song features 2 people. 1 is a vocalist, who i cant remember his band right now, and he does the cleans and you can also hear his harsh vocals mixed in with the vocalist of Allegaeon through out the song, he has the higher pitched vocal. And the second solo is a guest guitarist, whos name i cannot remember.
They also did a cover of Rush, and its amazing.
Got the chance to see these guys open for Ne Obliviscaris last december. Sick show with such awesome musicianship from both bands
Would love to see a video with Fleshgod Apocalypse. Under Black Sails, The Violation, and A Million Deaths are my favorites by them. Super cool stuff, also very heavy metal
AFTER FOREVER
BLACK TOMB
Edit: SHOUT OUT TO JENNNNNNN
PONY of the VILLAGE Thank you. 💕
Vin: Did you see my topic in The Village Entrance from about a month back that was a follow-up on the original AI discussion? It's a long one, but if you read through it you might find yourself in doubt about the feasibility of artificial sentience.
Zonia Harris a few of us also posted videos showing how far AI and robot tech has come, including tech that the military claimed they wouldn’t use (but we know they currently are).
@@Raijin-RyuX24 Yeah, unless you're actively involved in AI, it's hard to understand how far it has come. Those of us who work with it on a daily basis (even when we're off work) are well aware of how far it has come and how hardware has evolved to advance AI development, yet are still surprised by the results. I have a Neural Compute Stick 2 on its way to me right now and in the last few years I have been dumping source data like mad onto Google Cloud and running DL models on them. In the work place, we can't even understand the decision making of our own models, today. The logic is basically a black box, at this point. AI tech is evolving so rapidly, statements like what Vin made show how far behind everyone else is on understanding what is going on in the field.
Cattle Decapitation-prophets of loss!!! All hail science is away better song.
This is a lot better than that song I think. Grey Matter Mechanics is my fav off the album tho
Prophets of loss needs to be done!!
No way all hail science is better this is the best song on the album
Good song, enjoyed it. I really like the wall of sound the rhythm guitar(s) create during the outro. I see that current Scar Symmetry guitarist Ben Ellis does the leads in this song, & Björn Strid of Soilwork the clean vocals. Love how he sings the line, "The majority will benefit, so erase this carbon plague." This song seems to be saying that A.I. beings will end up being just like us, beings that would rather conquer over, instead of cooperate with.
Ben Ellis didn't do all the leads though. Also Michael Stencil and Greg Burgess do their part. They are complete beasts on guitar.
@@markblaauw4961 Oh, ok, thanks for the correction. The credits I've read on two different sites only mention Ben. Ok, listening more closely I can hear the difference in lead guitar tone, I'm guessing that middle solo is Ben?
@@Bucketbothead007 Yes, that's correct 😉
Never heard these guys before, not bad. The clean singing reminds me of Soilwork.
Funny you should mention that...….
That's probably because it's Soilwork's singer providing guest vocals!
@@VexonCross ah, well that makes sense :)
Is this the song where in the video they had a South Park-like cutout of the guy doing the clean vocals?
@@sopwithsnoopy8779 yessir. Funny video (as all their videos tend to be)
Very cool! Mark Blaauw (sorry if I misspelled it) got his song reacted to finally :)
Hahahaha never woke up happier 😉
You say they rely a lot on their lead guitarist which would be Michael I guess but Greg and Michael both take lead parts and in some other songs, which I hope you check out, Greg does some mind blowing stuff. In fact I'm a huge fan of how they integrate classical acoustic guitar into some of their songs which is all Greg.
Moonspell - Night Eternal
Bless you good man/woman/whateveryouwanttobe!
YES!!!
Great song!🤘I like that you guys are doing more music that is different than you were doing in the beginning. Keep it up, keep branching out. You’re channel has been introducing me to new bands and new music. I appreciate it. I know everyone is always like when are they gonna do their requests, like “when are they gonna do Architects - A Match Made In Heaven”. But I know there’s only so much time in the day. You guys have a lot going on and we need to have patience. So we’ll keep watching and waiting. You guys are awesome!
Saw Allegaeon open for NeO twice last year. They're stupid fucking talented and such nice dudes. Do 1.618 or Behold (God I Am)
This band is incredible. I love part 2 to this.
My personal favorite as well.
These guys are technical death metal though, just so you know.
But for prog, you can do some Tesseract - Of Matter Live In Studio!!! There are 3 songs together. The album has groups of songs, and titled Altered State. First are 3 Of Matter songs, 2 are Of Mind, theres Of Body, and cannot remember the last one, maybe Of Soul. And these guys are next level prog as well. This album in particular, is probably the best Progressive metal album out there. Also Attempt #7
Technical/progressive really. They aren't techy enough to be true tech death and to techy to be just progressive death. They are one of these bands where I really hate the idea of shoving a band into genres.
@@khellendross3573 Tesseract? I think there is no doubt they are prog imho. You could argue that they have tech aspects. But they are pretty solidly prog.
@@Smithysmithin I was talking about Allegaeon. Tesseract is definitely prog.
Tesseract gets blocked though.
I must admit I often mix these guys and Fallujah up because both do that sci-fi based, melodic and technical death metal sound. Really dig the cameos on this song. Soilwork was a gateway band for more extreme bands because Bjorn is great at singing and growling.
The AI discussion certainly opens a big old can of worms. I’ve definitely heard some notable people voice concerns about what the future of AI has in store for us. Most are worried once AI has the ability to improve itself
No you haven't done them, cause I've also been asking for these guys! Thanks for finally doing it, although this particular song wouldn't be my #1 choice, but it aint bad. Long live nerd tech death metal!
Blu-HAWT FUZZ This song was recommended because it has melodic vocals.
Gotcha. Maybe they should do that Rush cover? I think those are the only two they do that have cleans. Can't wait for the new album which should be out soon!
Btw the reference in the song for the "law of three" it's a reference to Issac Asimov, one of the greatest science fiction writers. It's a reference to the law of robotics in his writings about artificial Inteligence.
His laws of robotics go like this
1st a robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2nd a robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the first law.
3rd a robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the first or second law.
He explore this in his book I, Robot. A movie about the book was made with Will Smith.
Anthrax - Keep it in the Family, In My World, Indians, Inside Out and What Doesn't Die
My favourite thrash band 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Probably should have went with grey matter mechanics
Seriously one of the BEST bands today along with REVOCATION and BLACK DAHLIA MURDER(best lyrically as well)
Great band!
I'M BACK!!! Attempt #126
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES. Now all you need is Be'lakor - In Parting.
Allegaeon - All hail science
Guess I have to suggest something else now😊. We're you surprised? Then try another masterpiece of them: Grey matter mechanics. Or revisit The Black Dahlia Murder: Nightbringers
@@nghb2023 Hey, we had also contact a day before my birthday 😄And that was almost two months ago😅. You don't know how I felt this morning when I checked wat was uploaded. Wow.
It's funny how I had no idea the guitar player for Scar Symmetry played in this, yet for some reason after a short while it reminded me of Scar Symmetry... and then I heard Bjorn's voice (from Soilwork)... and yeah, the whole thing just sounded very "European" to me (I'm saying that because I know they're an American band).
Didn't sound like Periphery at all to me, which is a good thing, as I really dislike both Periphery's vocals, and the "djent sound" which annoys the hell out of me in general. This had a nice combo of being technical yet still extremely melodic like a normal Scandinavian Melodeath band. All in all, I like it, but I already knew that, I've heard this before, just not with as much attention I guess.
And I feel like with my mentions to Scar Symmetry and Soilwork, I should once again suggest you guys to check out some more "Scandinavian" band, not that you haven't listen to a bunch of them (Amorphis, Messhugah, etc) but, for example, you've done At the Gates and In Flames, pioneers of the "gothenburg scene" (Melodeath), and also but have yet to listen to Dark Tranquillity. Or Insomnium, a later band, who have been making consistently great melodeath since they appeared.
And then there's Edge of Sanity, a band that put out one of the best Concept Albums ever (Crimson), in my opinion. A band led by Dan Swano, a legend of the scene. The guy's a record producer, who produced albums from bands like Opeth, and he has sang both Death Vocals and Clean Vocals for multiple bands, and plays the drums, and the guitar, and the bass... oh yeah, and the Keyboards too. He has put out albums where he did it all, like "Moontower". So yeah, some Edge of Sanity would be cool... Crimson is only 1 song, a 40 minute song, but something like "Twilight" from the previous album is also pretty good.
I can see why Vin would get Periphery for two reasons. The ultra clean production and the breakdown part in the middle. Notice even sori said "depends on the time" when Vin said it sounded like Periphery.,
There aren't to many bands that sound like Allegaeon, but I would say it actually sounds less European to me and more American/Australian because parts of it remind me of Ne Oblivscaris and Revocation. But I guess the closest musically speaking would be bands like Obscura, Beyond Creation and Persefone.
The Piper Never Dies - Edguy
Thanks for the shout out Vin lol.
Got to see these guys live on their tour with NeO last year. Honestly I feel they're even better live, though the studio versions are obviously amazing as well.
You guys gotta check out Grey Matter Mechanics by them though.
Iron Maiden Dance Of Death from En Vivo!
So happy you did an allagaeon song! This is not my favourite song of theirs but I can see why it was suggested. Very interesting subject matter. Thumps up to whoever suggested this song. I'm with Vin on this one, I too believe that it is impossible to create a completely free intelligence, one part of intelligence comes from something transcendent that cannot be manufactured. Also if it was not true, I would not know why someone would want to create something like that. However, some moral judgements may be made based on logic too. However again, if these beings were so intelligent, they would see how the evil deeds, even if evil are not illogical. Hence they would see the logic that drives humans to do the sins and hence would spare us, maybe!
”The birth of Abigail would soon be realized. The second coming of a devil in disguise”...
We need the full review of King Diamond’s Abigail album, right?
You want to get the full story now that you’ve already heard song ”Abigail” 😉
hello people i have a question! im now a villager on Vinandsori.com and my question is: how does the song requesting work? i went to requests & pols and made a request on one of the categories (blackfyre, underground, mainstage) and after that i didnt see it in the list... did i do something wrong or does it need to be voted a few time to show or does it show up later and so on?
Vin is right by the way, I think we are meant to maybe not necessarily agree with the AI's extermination of man, but we should completely understand it. I mean it is completely rational. A super intelligent learning AI would see what we have done and continue to do to each other and based on how we pass on knowledge to our children, probably determine that we are far more of a danger to the planet (and ourselves) and as such we should be wiped out completely. The part at the beginning by the way is Professor Stephen Hawking. So I would say that if anyone has a right to be furious with God, and be convinced in his lack of existance, it would be one of the smartest and brilliant minds in the world who was crippled by ALS. Two interesting quotes by Mr. Hawking might be of interest to you Vin.
"We are each free to believe what we want and it is my view that the simplest explanation is there is no God. No one created the universe and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realisation. There is probably no heaven, and no afterlife either. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe, and for that, I am extremely grateful"
and more importantly.... "If you like, you can call the laws of science ‘God,’ but it wouldn’t be a personal God that you would meet and put questions to." That last quote is a pretty crazy one and really makes you think. If one believes in God, how does one perceive of something so powerful? Do we characterize God in the manner that we do simply because we lack the frame of reference and the ability to comprehend something so powerful? And might that be mistaken for a law of nature, or vice versa? Interesting thoughts. Wether or not you can get behind his thoughts on religion and philosophy, there is no denying that he was a towering genius in the world of science.
W.A.S.P. Chainsaw Charlie (Murders in the new morgue)
I saw Allegeon with NeO in Helsinki. They were good.
Outlining our demise. Really powerful vocals and solid emotional.
Ghuleh/zombie queen- GHOST
Animate - RUSH
The Enemy Inside - DREAM THEATER
Dark Avenger - MANOWAR
Saw these guys live about a year ago and they killed it! Opened for Cattle Decapitation and played better than the headliner.
Arch Enemy - We Will Rise + Fields of Desolation (LIVE Tyrants of the Rising Sun)
Archspire-A Dark Horizontal! this song transcends space and time, opens a portal to an alternate universe of chaos and madness.
31:46 "It was a little bit long for me..." I guess we won't be getting that 24+ minute long Symphony X - The Odyssey reaction :(
it has less to do with the length than fatigue factor I think. They did longer songs from Iced Earth, Vektor and Ne O and had no issue. Especially with Allegaeon its a rather blistering assault of highly technical riffs. Though this wasn't even a longer song from them.
Within temptation "rise your banner" you'll like this song and band.
You’re right u will have to do all the other proponents hahahaha but also ALL HAIL SCIENCE
Allegaeon is amazing.
The number three has been used since time immemorial to describe the fundamental attributes, principles or personalities of God and the forces of Nature. For example:
Christian - Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
Taoist - Yin, Yang, Tao
Hinduism - Brahma is the creator, Shiva is the destroyer, Vishnu is the preserver.
Hinduism - The Three Gunas - Rajas, Tamas, Sattva.
Zoroastrian - Ahura Mazda is the father of two twin spirits, Angra Mainyu is the destructive one, Spenta Mainyu is the holy spirit.
Egyptian - Re was his face; Ptah his body; and Amun his hidden identity
Sumerian - Anu is the father, Enlil is the wind-god of the earth, Enki is the god of waters and wisdom.
Etruscan - Tinia, Uni, and Menerva.
Roman - Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva.
Also, one of the fundamental laws of the universe in Beelzebub's Tales is called "Triamazikamno" (The Law of Three), and it's a direct manifestation of the triune nature of His Endlessness as it is expressed in the universe. Gurdjieff defined the triune nature of His Endlessness as three forces - Active, Passive and Neutral. The three Laws of the second note of the Ray of Creation are the direct manifestation of His Endlessness and this is called the Theomertmalogos by Gurdjieff in Beelzebub's Tales. It is the basis of all the structures and processes within the universe and man.
The most important structurally related application for humans is with the formation of an harmonious interrelatedness of the three centers of human consciousness, Intellect, Body and Emotions, in a state known as All-Brains-Balanced-Being-Perception. Gurdjieff called this aspect of the Work and its related repetoire of exercises 'Conscious Labor.' Gurdjieff defined the process of interaction of the three forces as the "harnel-miatznel," where the higher blends with the lower in order together to actualize the middle, and thus to become either higher for the preceding lower or lower for the succeeding higher.
The most important process related application of the Law of Three in the Work is with the transformation of energies for our Being by the exercise of the two Conscious Shocks. Gurdjieff called this aspect of the Work 'Intentional Suffering.' In Beelzebub's Tales, the following prayer describes the process of "harnel-miatznel" as it is used in transforming energies for our Being:
Holy-Affirming,
Holy-Denying,
Holy-Reconciling,
Transubstantiate in me,
For My Being.
This prayer is referred to as the Holy Equation or the Holy Affirming Prayer. The Holy Equation acts as a shock in the octave of evolution. It is the formula for the 1st and 2nd Conscious Shocks. As we know from studying the Ray of Creation, the shocks are composed of three notes of a Lateral Octave, each note representing one of the forces of the Law of Three. The Holy Equation,
being based on the Law of Three, has the structure required for supplying the two Conscious Shocks.
Gurdjieff speaks of the threefoldness of the creation as a fundamental cosmic law. He calls this law Triamazikamno, “I put three together.” In the ultimate, cosmic scheme, the Theomertmalogos is the Holy Affirming and the Etherokrilno the Holy Denying.
The whole working of the universe, particularly through life, is the Reconciling.(J.G. Bennett, Talks on Beelzebub's Tales)
The universe is a being with three centers corresponding to our own; their material aspect is comprised of vibration-rates which appear to us as substances. The universe is the body of God; it is the neutralizing force of the Sun Absolute, the manifestation of the interaction of the positive and negative forces of God. We live in the body of God, are made in the image of God and God's 'fancy' is immortality. God is the "I" of the universe, is termed His Endlessness and is not inferior to time. Time is a perpetual perishing. It is the enemy of God. He has a purpose. Our Hope depends on our ability to discover His purpose and co-operate with it. This is the definition of religion, helping God. (A. R. Orage)
Additionally, The Vedic system of knowledge is based on a tripartite approach to the universe where connections exist in triples in categories of one group and across groups: sky, atmosphere, earth; object, medium, subject; future, present, past; and so on. Beyond the triples lies the transcendental “fourth”. Three kinds of motion are alluded to in the Vedic books: these are the translational motion, sound, and light which are taken to be “equivalent” to earth, air, and sky. The fourth motion is assigned to
consciousness; and this is considered to be infinite in speed. (Unknown)
I don't know how or if this applies to this song at all, but it's an interesting read.
Been waiting for this, forever!!!!!!!! I wish you guys did the band play through, but this is good enough. Haha
To answer your questions as to "why?" Listen to parts 1, and 2.
Been requesting this song particularly on and off since near the beginning. Glad to see Jen finally got it to happen. Incredible band. They toured with Ne O a year or so ago. Other good ones by them are Grey Matter Mechanics (which is pretty unique in its sound) and 1.618 which you should only do if you watch the official video (it won't get blocked I don't think). This was the right song to start with as its the most "accessible" song from them. Go back and watch the video just to fully understand just how insanely talented these guys are. Most of the work between both guitarists (they both have solos in this song) is done on 8 string guitars for starters. Ben from Scar Symmetry also has a great solo with a really cool tapped arpeggio run. And of course the legendary Bjorn from Soilwork on guest vocals. Legendary singer. This song is a easy 10 for me and one of my favorite bands as of late. Also their singer streams on twitch, very nice guy. I should note that this band does not have a rhythm and lead guitarist per say. Both guitarists trade back and forth on the solos. However on songs where there is acoustic work that is all Greg (the guy with the long hair).
Finally they did it. But now I don't know what to suggest anymore. Suggested this one since the end of August every single day😊
@@markblaauw4961 How about more songs by them?
@@AZColt1971 You're right!
How do they choose songs?
Never heard this before. It was awesome! 🤘🏻 Helloween - Keeper of the seven keys 🎃
Do yourself a favor and get their last album......or just wait for the new one in a few months.
Been suggesting this one here since the end of August. Every single day. I really don't know what to suggest next😊. They've got loads of more amazing stuff. Perhaps I have to give my thumbs up to Helloween 👍
Black Sun aeon - a song for my funeral
Dawn of solace - Dead air or I was never there.
i think the law of 3 is reffering to the 3 laws of robotics but im not sure... someone correct me if im wrong:
First Law - A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
Second Law - A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
Third Law - A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws
HI guys! In regards to your question, "what is the law of three?", this is a reference to science fiction author Isaac Asimov's "Three Laws of Robotics".
1 - A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2- A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3 - A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
Your videos are fantastic. Never stop!
Gojira - Of blod and salt
Good song, I never heard of this band before so I was expecting something more "blackish" (closer to Agalloch style) but it was good. The whole A.I. thing sounds like something completely unavoidable it just a matter of time.
Please react to "Nothing Is Not" by Morbid Angel and "In Their Darkened Shrines" by Nile.
Please give BETWEEN THE BURIED AND ME another go! Do "Swim to the Moon". And yes I'm sure you've figured out after the last one they do concept albums ;)
Vin, every time you go on the internet or engage in social media you ARE contributing to the AI that will rule us all
They don't really have a lead guitarist, both of the guitarists are phenomenal and pass off the lead parts back and forth.
YES! love Allegaeon! Please do Phylogenesis Stretch next!
Please react to Agalloch - Falling Snow
Well, about the guitarists, the intro and a lot of the stuff you hear is actually the rhythm guitar hahaha, they are both very talented, I have some great vids of this song live :)
FINALLY!!
Hey guys love your work. Would love to see a reaction to Alien Weaponry - Kai Tangata. I would also like to hear Vins thoughts on Sentinel Island and what happened there this week.
saw these guys live and holy crap they are AMAZING
fuck i love the lyrics on this song.
Hey guys just became a patreo, i know you do alot of metal music which i have no problem with, listened to alot of it when i was younger. My my music choice has changed drastically lol. I have a different type of music choice for ya, Chris Stapleton Tennesse Whiskey. Its listed as country but i think youll love it!
More of Allegaeon and more technical death metal
Cool you finally did it you will live it. The 1st is the origin of life, the second is the middle, and the 3rd is the end of humanity.
Chappie is a robot that has free will and a soul.
People are engrained of robots taking over cause of films but it makes for a metal song you could write from a artificial intelligence god that helped the world or saved all. Check out the movie Chappie.
The Black Dahlia Murder - Deathmask Divine. Great song, great solo, great lyrics.
Inquisition - Bloodshed Across the Empyrean Altar Beyond the Celestial Zenith.
Soilwork - Follow The Hollow
Soilwork - Song of the Damned
(Or any track off of Natural Born Chaos)
If you like this band