Why the Punisher REFUSES to fight Captain America

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  • @bloodmoon920
    @bloodmoon920 5 місяців тому +623

    That isn’t fear.. that’s respect and the fact he would stand up to Wolverine before Cap says a lot about that respect.

    • @Moe_Lester_fromUptwn
      @Moe_Lester_fromUptwn 5 місяців тому +1

      💯

    • @danyjones739
      @danyjones739 5 місяців тому +1

      Stand up to wolve? What comic , show was it?

    • @batlaughsdc2755
      @batlaughsdc2755 5 місяців тому +11

      @@danyjones739 punisher vs wolverine

    • @ngud_gaming267
      @ngud_gaming267 5 місяців тому +8

      Well to be fair him and wolverine were going after the same target so he knew he stood no chance in a straight race so he slowed wolverine down and when wolverine caught up he didn’t put up much resistance. Well that’s if I’m thinking about the same story

    • @ron633
      @ron633 Місяць тому +1

      I'm the 500th like and I completely agree. In Frank's eyes Cap represents the best and the brightest.

  • @bmagada
    @bmagada 4 місяці тому +243

    He doesn't fight back because its who he respects the most. He's the ideal. No matter what happens Cap doesn't break. He's who Frank wishes he could be. Frank might be a broken man, but he understands he's broken and why.

    • @JR-zi9vj
      @JR-zi9vj Місяць тому +3

      Frank isn't a superhuman he has to use equalizers to deliver mans justice

  • @allforone3427
    @allforone3427 6 місяців тому +148

    So basically Captain America see Punisher like how Punisher sees Crooked Cops.

    • @tbone450r
      @tbone450r 4 місяці тому

      Cept crooked cops kill civilians instead of villains

  • @Project_DualLegend
    @Project_DualLegend 6 місяців тому +307

    Cap training frank doesn't even make any chronological sense. Frank fought in 'Nam and Cap fought in WW2. The dumbest retcon ever.

    • @Justachannel-u9w
      @Justachannel-u9w 6 місяців тому +43

      I mean there was a time before the retconed it where cap served in Nam if I recall
      And the in universe explanation was that they got a dude with the same look and back ground modified him with the serum and plastic surgery and brainwashed him into thinking he was cap until the og showed back up

    • @victorramos3919
      @victorramos3919 6 місяців тому +9

      @@Justachannel-u9w I remember that but they didn't write him as serving in Nam. He committed suicide because of Doctor Faustus.

    • @froger9973
      @froger9973 6 місяців тому +7

      That wasn't Steve

    • @jessegonzalez4518
      @jessegonzalez4518 5 місяців тому +2

      This guy doesn't now pun or caps back story 😂😂

    • @TheOnlyOpie
      @TheOnlyOpie 4 місяці тому +3

      Wasn't he unfrozen during 'Nam?

  • @kman9884
    @kman9884 3 місяці тому +57

    Superheroes forget that Castle is a soldier. His entire role was to kill the enemy, so he has a different philosophy around it. At home, he’s still at war, and war demands you destroy the enemy.

  • @jg2722
    @jg2722 6 місяців тому +361

    They dislike him because he actually gets shit done unlike most of those superheroes.

    • @enochcrank
      @enochcrank 6 місяців тому +63

      Sure he gets the job done, but most of the time he kill people who didn't even deserve to die or just killing a lot of Innocent people in the process just to kill one guy. And killing people is wrong. So maybe you should go back to and read some comics before you talk, pal.

    • @Tiredsleepy-u3h
      @Tiredsleepy-u3h 6 місяців тому +25

      ​@@jg2722 gotta agree with em tho he's like Batman as soon he figures out your working with a bad guy and or someone who did bad shit in the pass and didn't know they are working with said bad guy he'd definitely kill them even if they were forced 😂

    • @enochcrank
      @enochcrank 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Tiredsleepy-u3h Thank you, some people actually know what there talking about.

    • @jaketane1717
      @jaketane1717 6 місяців тому

      @@enochcrank So which would you want? I’m not disagreeing with you just asking for your opinion

    • @enochcrank
      @enochcrank 6 місяців тому +1

      @@jaketane1717 me?

  • @ngud_gaming267
    @ngud_gaming267 5 місяців тому +61

    Marvels logic is weird at times if you think about it. They hate punisher cause he kills but almost all of them could easily stop and imprison him if they wanted to. It’s like how it doesn’t make sense that humans of marvel hate mutants but have no issue with meta humans

    • @mumbo_fuze2484
      @mumbo_fuze2484 4 місяці тому +7

      people hate mutants cause mutants are viewed as the next step in evolution. Combine that with some of them having powers that can shatter the planet with ease and you can see why they are feared.

    • @whenallelsfails21
      @whenallelsfails21 4 місяці тому +5

      ​@@mumbo_fuze2484yeah but meta humans do that too. Also how does the generalized public differentiate people like spiderman from people in the X-Men? It's comic logic and it IS stupid.

    • @daniellaradiaz5476
      @daniellaradiaz5476 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@whenallelsfails21 That's something I always wondered since I was a kid but apparently there was an X-Men story line about that

    • @ahmedaziz8660
      @ahmedaziz8660 2 місяці тому

      Who are meta humans

    • @daniellaradiaz5476
      @daniellaradiaz5476 2 місяці тому +2

      @@ahmedaziz8660 humans who have powers but don't get them from the mutant gene ex. Spiderman,human torch, hulk

  • @PeterParker-tb7ce
    @PeterParker-tb7ce 4 місяці тому +15

    FYI, Punisher respects Cap. Punisher even stops Cap from killing some one. Since he knew it was a line that Cap can not cross without destroying him. Forget why Cap wanted the person dead. But the Punisher didn't want Cap to turn out like himself. Cap is his Hero. This was back in the 90's. Stopped buying comic after the first x-men movie.

    • @CARLWINARDCHOY
      @CARLWINARDCHOY 2 місяці тому +1

      The punisher was inspire by cap to become a soldier

  • @OneFluffyBun
    @OneFluffyBun 2 місяці тому +34

    Cap probably trained Frank sometime AFTER he was thawed out.
    Military probably asked Cap to visit and help oversee training

  • @AlexJames-jv3em
    @AlexJames-jv3em 4 місяці тому +43

    Punisher won't fight Cap, because Captain America is the boyscout that Frank *wishes* he could be; Frank detests what he feels that he *has* to be instead -- a murderer for justice.

    • @CARLWINARDCHOY
      @CARLWINARDCHOY 2 місяці тому +3

      To be fair before losing his family his personality was similar to cap

  • @SpencerHawn
    @SpencerHawn Місяць тому +2

    It’s honestly the perfect representation of how differently war can affect different people

  • @Trav-m1m
    @Trav-m1m 4 місяці тому +8

    Captain America hasn't done anything to deserve being struck by The punisher! There's no way in hell frank would lay a hand on the man!
    Id g even further that the punisher knew he was going to get his ass kicked the moment he killed those two men

    • @Orapac4142
      @Orapac4142 Місяць тому

      Well yeah he knew he'd get his ass beat, but he didn't fight cap because of the immense respect for him he has. Cap is who Frank wished he could be but can't, because he knows how broken he actually is.
      He has stopped cap from killing someone because he knew it wasn't a line Cap could ever cross without breaking himself, and didn't want Cap to turn out like him.

  • @championlotus
    @championlotus 4 місяці тому +11

    Probably my favorite part about Punisher is even tho he kills people there is a line somewhere. I love that he respects Cap so much that he cant bring himself to even block his attacks.

  • @Mararies23
    @Mararies23 3 місяці тому +3

    Cap a Hero 🇺🇸 and the Punisher a Broken Man 😞

  • @judgeanon2922
    @judgeanon2922 25 днів тому +1

    As said in civil war: "same man, different war"

  • @aemeerzanhaziq
    @aemeerzanhaziq 20 днів тому +1

    The Punisher won't fight him... because in other comics, he actually *kills* cap.

  • @Moe_Lester_fromUptwn
    @Moe_Lester_fromUptwn 5 місяців тому +15

    Ah! So good seeing this guy violate Jack'o Lantern.

  • @tienkami
    @tienkami 26 днів тому +1

    Captain America could not have been Frank Castles trainer.

  • @MildarValsik
    @MildarValsik Місяць тому +1

    They both hate corruption and fights it. Yet there is a line Cap doesn't want to cross at times. Punisher doesn't accept any major any many minor crimes. He lost his family due to the major criminal parts that started ad minor types of crime. Sure the punisher might mess up petty thieves not kill them. However if they are part of something bigger it's the end.
    Punisher does his homework before he checks one off the list.

  • @JustifiedNonetheless
    @JustifiedNonetheless Місяць тому +1

    I think part of the nuance here, too, isn't the juxtaposition of Cap's WWII to Frank's Vietnam War...No, Castle's war is on *crime,* as a whole. That's why it's so much more difficult for Cap to see their similarities. Cap killed soldiers in his war. To the Punisher, criminals _are_ soldiers.

  • @jevonjackson4236
    @jevonjackson4236 6 місяців тому +24

    In the punishers defense his family was killed by the mafia. Wouldn't you want Justice for your family if they were killed by the mafia. Punishing the punisher for getting revenge for his family is dumb. Let him go At Least He Goes After The Worst Of The Worst. You're welcome boys and girls any questions.

    • @allforone3427
      @allforone3427 6 місяців тому +6

      Yeah I got a question. Why wasn't the Punisher detained by the government/Shield for killing Stilt-Man who was a government sanctioned Hero during Civil War?

    • @jevonjackson4236
      @jevonjackson4236 6 місяців тому +2

      @@allforone3427
      This particular person probably had it coming.

    • @KrasseOdaVonBayern
      @KrasseOdaVonBayern 5 місяців тому +11

      @@jevonjackson4236Uhh. No. Stilt-Man was like, a wacky Daredevil villain who basically was trying to get revenge on his boss for stealing his invention. Then by this point in the comic, he had become a hero, and was here to take down a child m*lester. The Punisher is also here to take down the target, and is like ‘duuuuuhhh Stilt-Man was a villain in the past’ and blows both of them up. Then a wounded Stilt-Man, who again was a wacky villain who at this point was a hero, tried to surrender to the Punisher, who just killed him.

    • @redroman4214
      @redroman4214 5 місяців тому +5

      Not really. He goes after the worst of the worst but he doesn't really stop there.

    • @DanRyzESPUK
      @DanRyzESPUK 5 місяців тому +9

      Punisher is a sociopath, and nobody should praise him.

  • @JesseBaker-qe8hj
    @JesseBaker-qe8hj Місяць тому +1

    Cap can distance himself from the war atrocities. Now Frank takes it personal. And for understandable reasons. His family slain. Frank doesn’t have the abilities that Captain America, Daredevil, or Spiderman have. He’s just a soldier. But he runs with the big boys

  • @41bengal
    @41bengal 6 місяців тому +16

    @jg2722 i agree with you.. i see alot of super heroes don't try figure out why these people are the way they are

    • @jg2722
      @jg2722 6 місяців тому +7

      That’s the thing with superheroes , they keep trying to fix these serial killers and as a result more innocent people die. You can’t let one bad egg kill the rest of the good ones.

  • @juancabre33
    @juancabre33 2 місяці тому

    I really like your ending comment about the Punisher and Captain.
    Also at the end of the comic chapter of Civil War, Captain America loses his stance at the realization of "we're just fighting ", i find that a parallel to Frank just taking Caps beating

  • @matty92k
    @matty92k Місяць тому +1

    Find it so funny cause cap has gone rogue before and has killed tons of people. Lolk red skulls twin brother that frames cap for a bunxh of bad stuff. Steve kills a bunch of french soldiers i think the minute he thinks there traitors to shield.

  • @Dukesparrow1999
    @Dukesparrow1999 Місяць тому

    Sometimes, you can't expect a broken man to work under stable conditions, because unstable results are inevitable

  • @ZeusAmun-pt9dc
    @ZeusAmun-pt9dc 3 місяці тому +3

    You can't punish the innocent

  • @gabrieldevoogel6225
    @gabrieldevoogel6225 2 місяці тому +7

    He doenst fight cap because he knows cap saw arguably the only recent war as bloody or worse then he saw, and cap isn’t committing domestic warfare

    • @CARLWINARDCHOY
      @CARLWINARDCHOY 2 місяці тому

      Cap is punisher inspiration growing up and he try to emmulate his ideals and morals then his family die while he still respect he no longer able to emmulate his morals and ideals

  • @twotales1645
    @twotales1645 4 місяці тому +6

    This isn't an accurate recap.
    Those two villains were sent after Spider-man, who quit working with Stark. They were going to kill Spider-Man instead of capturing him.
    Punisher offed them to save Spider-man and then took Spidey to Cap's resistance.

    • @blechb5317
      @blechb5317 2 місяці тому +1

      That was two other villains, the ones he killed as Spider-Man was being attacked. These two were genuinely going to help.

    • @twotales1645
      @twotales1645 2 місяці тому +1

      @blechb5317 I'll go pull my comics to double check myself. Not at all how I recall this.

    • @blechb5317
      @blechb5317 2 місяці тому +1

      @@twotales1645 The two that attacked Spider-Man were Jack O’Lantern and Jester. The two who offered to help Cap’s team were Goldbug and Plundered.

  • @MrGhostTheBigRoast
    @MrGhostTheBigRoast 6 місяців тому +3

    this is Stain and All Might

  • @Meldrick-jv7sy
    @Meldrick-jv7sy 5 місяців тому +6

    So he pretty much killed two people that wanted to change their ways?

    • @ElfinHat96
      @ElfinHat96 4 місяці тому +1

      More like they were against forceful mutant identification.

    • @victor2641
      @victor2641 2 місяці тому

      ​@@ElfinHat96 yeah but pretty sure one of them was changing there ways

  • @robertrichards6964
    @robertrichards6964 2 місяці тому +1

    This dynamic kind of makes captain America look like a dweeb

  • @Craig-j2e
    @Craig-j2e 2 місяці тому +1

    Ahhhh. What a cute ship. Wimps.

  • @Malacite
    @Malacite 12 днів тому

    The reason Frank didn't raise a fist was out of respect and admiration.
    Cap is his hero, an embodiment of idealism a national symbol etc. In Frank's view, attacking Cap - even in self defense would be akin to violating his code.
    Especially since Frank knows what he does is morally dubious and of course, illegal. He cannot in his right mind fault Steve for giving him shit.

  • @Tactical_variable
    @Tactical_variable Місяць тому

    Bru how many times have there villains came back and killed again. Frank should be getting a medic of honor

  • @italianduded1161
    @italianduded1161 Місяць тому

    damn I hat Cap.... Meanwhile, love Punisher.

  • @bruceflournoy7411
    @bruceflournoy7411 2 місяці тому

    The war Castle fought in? Wouldn't that have been the insane impersonator? Thus Frank might not never met this one till then?

  • @ExecutionerDan
    @ExecutionerDan 2 місяці тому

    Frank is a marine. Cap is a soldier. Completely different.

  • @D1337ThisGuy
    @D1337ThisGuy Місяць тому +1

    It's like the difference between a veteran and a veteran with ptsd.

    • @petermj1098
      @petermj1098 Місяць тому

      Frank wishes he was Captain America lol

  • @ducedevlstear2471
    @ducedevlstear2471 6 днів тому

    Which villains did Cap recruit ?

  • @johnhannibalsmith1607
    @johnhannibalsmith1607 3 місяці тому

    Hold on a second. How could Captain America have trained Frank Castle and other marines before they went to war? Frank Castle was in the Vietnam war. Captain America should have still been on ice at that time. We're talking about some serious retconning now. 🤔❤

    • @thecrackconnoisseur5278
      @thecrackconnoisseur5278 Місяць тому

      Comics are confusing, and Punisher is very subject to retcon, his marine days have been changed multiple times, from a marine in Vietnam to just a marine, to a marine who fought in the middle east, but the definitive origin is Born by Garth Ennis

  • @Kastle9498
    @Kastle9498 Місяць тому

    to bad you can't talk normally i would've loved this video more

  • @thememeking8079
    @thememeking8079 Місяць тому

    The punisher is better than captain America because when frank goes up against any villain, he has a high chance of winning unlinke captain America

  • @dwoncrawford5823
    @dwoncrawford5823 2 місяці тому

    Dude, Marines are NOT SOLDIERS!!! Jk but for real lol. And Cap is a solider. He is mandated by his government to un alive enemies and if he did he wouldn’t have to deal with the same threats over and over. Comic book politics 🙄

  • @rusher8816
    @rusher8816 7 днів тому

    Doesn’t pretty much all heroes kill in marvel except Spider-Man? Kinda hypocritical if you ask me

  • @DarekBirton
    @DarekBirton Місяць тому

    There is no way in hell punisher is able to to kill Captain America unless he sucker punches him and befriends. Let’s not even get started with killing Spider-Man that basically sees bullets before they arrive or Thanos or Hulk. This fan base shit. The punisher gets beaten half to death by regular people. How in the hell he has a chance against any of the powerful people with powers. And how in the hell can he kill Ironman that wears a suit of armor. I get tired of of this fan base shit.

  • @perryellis1423
    @perryellis1423 Місяць тому

    Punisher couldn't beat Captain America anyways soooooooo🙄 yea take that L

  • @Kaveman79
    @Kaveman79 5 місяців тому +1

    That's Deep🙏⛪️🫡😲

  • @E_X_H_U_M_E_D_06
    @E_X_H_U_M_E_D_06 6 місяців тому +9

    Captain America ain't my favorite character but they didn't have to disrespect him by making the falcon the new Captain America.

    • @victor2641
      @victor2641 2 місяці тому

      Fail to see how it's disrespectful when he is just taking up the title

  • @ZeusAmun-pt9dc
    @ZeusAmun-pt9dc 3 місяці тому

    Cap is a hypocrite

  • @ekiti
    @ekiti 4 місяці тому +1

    Nah that's some BS explanation. Everyone knows Cap America will fleece johnson the Punisher booty 😮😢. No excuse. Will never be fair fight. So The Punisher willinly submits to imminent defeat 😂 . Give me some Chon! Chon! 🎉🎉🎉

    • @C0ldD1rective
      @C0ldD1rective 2 місяці тому +1

      Next time you make something up on the internet at least make it coherent.

  • @janaksingh6783
    @janaksingh6783 3 дні тому

    Captun omrica is a jocker 😂😂😂😂