_"Since it was extremely risky, it took a couple seconds before volunteers flooded the sign-up stations."_ That got a laugh out of me. Nothing says Human like being asked to do something extremely stupid and dangerous, and answering with the utmost excitement and glee, damn near demanding participation.
Oh I’ve heard this one, it’s super good and does really well to establish just how alien extraterrestrial life would be. Biology isn’t even the half of it the differences are on a deep conceptual level too.
This seems to be less of a case of individuality but more of a role-based structure. The alien more than likely has to learn to do everything themselves while humans specialize and then combine resources. Each human cannot understand the entirety, but understand enough of the highly specifics and then make operation easy for everyone else.
@@BurakkuHishou More than likely the alien does not. That is what a hive mind is, a shared intelligence controlled by 1 omega or "queen". A true hive mind doesn't actually exist as far as we have ever seen on our planet. Characteristics of a hive mind have been displayed especially in birds and ants. However, an actual hive mind is total science fiction and is generally desc..... wait..... forgive me..... you know what? Since actual hive mind is science fiction, it's whatever you want it to be. Most science fiction "more likely the alien does not." But maybe in your science fiction the alien DOES have to learn to do everything themselves.
@@ShadOoWma But then what? A have mind always has a connection to other many other voices sharing opinions or all the information they know through biological or artificial means somehow. Have you ever seen what happeneds when you draw a circle around an ant, I imagine a hive mind species trying underatand individuality is something like that. It only goes so far before there is no way to communicate or know what to do anymore on it'a own.
Aliens: "You don't have a hive? How do you function?" Us: "We function just as you see us now. We stand together." This is hilarious, and I like how it is told. Bravo! 😎😎
so technically we have an hive mind on the internets, yes we´re constantly bickering and hating on each other, but may god have mercy on your soul because the Internet hasn´t if it finds out you´re commiting something like animal cruelty
Once a dark ass corner of this place gets spotted, it gets dogged on in mass. Even if the parties involved say they're done, the internet can't hear the bell and frankly it doesn't care
This reminds me of a story by CJ Cherryh involving a communication between species with very different ways of perceiving their own identities, sexuality, and individuality.
Diplomats are usually trained to hide their emotions, and show a mask. Having heard how the human diplomat is too emotional, and speaks in a very unguarded fashion, this human woman would not necessarily be fit for first contact.
This is first contact, not negotiations with an enemy country. The duplicity of career diplomats is why they're generally poorly regarded, much like lawyers. In this scenario humans are trying to make a good first impression, so it makes sense to send someone who inspires trust. The poker-faced diplomats are for when you want to scam your enemy during negotiations.
Great episode! It highlights the difficulty in communicating with an alien species. Star Trek: Next Generation had an episode ("Darmok") that demonstrated this difficulty. I'm looking forward to more episodes in this story!
when we first meet an intelligent space-faring species, the main source of confusion, and wonder on the part of them, will boil down to one question: "how can you have learned so much about electro-magnetism and sub-atomic structures yet still be so confused about gravity that you think mass attracts other mass? "
@@Attaxalotl even more lucky to become the only intelligent species on earth alone, heck, we shouldn't even be the only sentient species in this planet.
@@ordinaryfellow9093 I don't think you meant to use the word "sentient". Basically you aren't alive if you're not sentient. I think what you meant is that humans are the only species on the planet that has a function in their brain that clearly formulates language so we can pass down ideas. We also weren't the only species to have that ability. We just happened to be the most bloodthirsty and war driven of all of the species that had that ability. We killed off every other species that could. I'm not anti-human btw. I know what I said comes off like some left wing environmentalist who wants to commit genocide on the entire human race, but I swear I'm not and that I just value truth. Even dark truth. We are lucky our ancestors were the way they were or else we wouldn't be here today.
@@ordinaryfellow9093 Are we, though? There are plenty of other species on our planets we know are extremely intelligent. Even ones that can communicate complex thoughts and can teach others. The only thing that really sets us apart is how good we are at making and using weapons.
Lefties generally won't say a word like "we" so it doesn't look like that, that kind of word assumes an amount of responsibility even if small, they tend to offload everything bad to the privileged class, like their neighbor who worked hard running a small business... Uh before "the lockdown" came, which put them out of business, But yeah if not for them... Uh perpetuating the patriarchy! And being all racist and sexist and evil, everyone could be living luxuriously within nature in harmony with talking vegan animals, intermingling and the like while drinking starbucks, and getting paid (with something I guess) to take liberal arts courses... Ah all irrelevant... I hate canada
This story helped me realize that we truly are musical beings, just like the birds and other animals we "vibrate air" powerfully enough to pick it up even hundreds of yards away. That's a pretty cool superpower.
Funny how this Ambassador is so unqualified for their job. Like WHAT THE HELL? Any questions asked by the Alien would be easily understandable. How smart is that Ambassador? 60IQ?
Likely a mix of shock and awe. Even a simple nerve-racking interaction in daily life can make you do silly things, so imagine one to this scale. Add in that the translator was having trouble putting together their thoughts and vice versa, on top of the massive difference in perspective and that the average person isn't too smart to begin with, then you've got a massive mess of an interaction on your hands.
@@xCoNa14 Not to mention the clearly different thought process for either species. Humans can´t know everything, but can specialise and cooperate. The alien on the other hand knows everything their species knows through the hive mind, but seems unable to even understand the concept of specializing in one specific area/task as a career/way of life. Basically, it's the difference between a team of specialists and a jack of all trades
I'm confused. This was already posted, but was re-uploaded? Part 2 seems to have been removed too. The humans improve the translator, it was malfunctioning because the alien says many things at once. The alien is a bit taken back, then scared because her ancestors were threatened by creatures that are small and many. Her species is also one to a planet, to give them time to learn.
This is the story I've been looking for😂😂😂. I first listened to this when I started listening to HFY stories on UA-cam. It has always been on my mind and I'm glad I'm back to it. TBH it feels off, like some parts missing, but it definitely is the one😂❤
The link to the story is in the description. When I chatted to the author, there were more parts, but he didn't number them, so I'll check with him for the order and get a few more parts added.
i really like this kind of interaction, frustration caused by misunderstanding due to the vast cultural and biological difference of two alien species we, as human are like specialized neurons... when you rub two together it does things... ... .. yeah
I hate how all these stories end with an upward voice inflection. I guess it’s an AI reading it, but they always sound like they’re ending on a question or incomplete thought.
A picture is worth a thousand words ... perhaps a video montage to explain things would be more effective ... for example of how something is made from start to finish.
Good story for the most part, but the part of the human ambassador could have been written better. Then again "randomly selecting" some turd to go represent all of humanity was kinda idiotic plot in and of itself. If not for that, I would not really have much to complain about.
I'm trying to find a story about 2 humans going to space university for engineering. One likes racing there's a lizard alien girl a bird alien how's a spy and the teacher and principal try to get the humans expelled out of fear of the predators. I liked it but can't find it duse eneyone now it.
@JokeofAllButts The author combined this story with 3 others, and posted the book on Amazon. There's a link in the description to the original story, and from there, an A/N that points to the sequel stories (they seem to be chapters, essentially), and an Amazon link to the book.
Let me be honest... Neil is... not the sharpest tool. When the question came about a "hive mind" it should have clicked that this guy is not one but many, therefore any question/inquiry is based on "hive mind mentality" and an explanation of individuality is required in order to move this meeting forward. I'm just a regular guy, but even I know that... so why is Neil an idiot? (I know, I know... Cause the plot demands it!)
_"Since it was extremely risky, it took a couple seconds before volunteers flooded the sign-up stations."_
That got a laugh out of me.
Nothing says Human like being asked to do something extremely stupid and dangerous, and answering with the utmost excitement and glee, damn near demanding participation.
Only if it soulds cool
Oh I’ve heard this one, it’s super good and does really well to establish just how alien extraterrestrial life would be. Biology isn’t even the half of it the differences are on a deep conceptual level too.
Humans can understand what a hive mind is as we have that on earth. Could a hive mind comprehend individuality?
There are hive minds on earth. Likewise, there may be individual minds on the aliens' planet.
This seems to be less of a case of individuality but more of a role-based structure. The alien more than likely has to learn to do everything themselves while humans specialize and then combine resources. Each human cannot understand the entirety, but understand enough of the highly specifics and then make operation easy for everyone else.
@@BurakkuHishou More than likely the alien does not. That is what a hive mind is, a shared intelligence controlled by 1 omega or "queen". A true hive mind doesn't actually exist as far as we have ever seen on our planet. Characteristics of a hive mind have been displayed especially in birds and ants. However, an actual hive mind is total science fiction and is generally desc..... wait..... forgive me..... you know what? Since actual hive mind is science fiction, it's whatever you want it to be. Most science fiction "more likely the alien does not." But maybe in your science fiction the alien DOES have to learn to do everything themselves.
Yes because a hive mind can conceive of itself as an individual to imagine how the concept works
@@ShadOoWma
But then what? A have mind always has a connection to other many other voices sharing opinions or all the information they know through biological or artificial means somehow.
Have you ever seen what happeneds when you draw a circle around an ant, I imagine a hive mind species trying underatand individuality is something like that. It only goes so far before there is no way to communicate or know what to do anymore on it'a own.
Aliens: "You don't have a hive? How do you function?"
Us: "We function just as you see us now. We stand together."
This is hilarious, and I like how it is told. Bravo! 😎😎
Aliens: *Millennia long buffering*
so technically we have an hive mind on the internets, yes we´re constantly bickering and hating on each other, but may god have mercy on your soul because the Internet hasn´t if it finds out you´re commiting something like animal cruelty
Once a dark ass corner of this place gets spotted, it gets dogged on in mass.
Even if the parties involved say they're done, the internet can't hear the bell and frankly it doesn't care
Country borders and politicians are the worst thing that ever happened to mankind.
Ain't no god/s.
That’s not the definition of a hive mind
That's more of an egalimind.
This reminds me of a story by CJ Cherryh involving a communication between species with very different ways of perceiving their own identities, sexuality, and individuality.
Diplomats are usually trained to hide their emotions, and show a mask. Having heard how the human diplomat is too emotional, and speaks in a very unguarded fashion, this human woman would not necessarily be fit for first contact.
It was considered a suicide mission and she was pick from human volunteers not a career diplomat.
This is first contact, not negotiations with an enemy country. The duplicity of career diplomats is why they're generally poorly regarded, much like lawyers. In this scenario humans are trying to make a good first impression, so it makes sense to send someone who inspires trust. The poker-faced diplomats are for when you want to scam your enemy during negotiations.
Adding to the comments above me, even if they were a career diplomat, they’d be stressed by alien first contact.
Basic speculative science fiction should be required reading for all interstellar diplomats profesional or not
yah she sucks
Great episode! It highlights the difficulty in communicating with an alien species. Star Trek: Next Generation had an episode ("Darmok") that demonstrated this difficulty. I'm looking forward to more episodes in this story!
E,,,,,
Shaka, when the walls fell.
when we first meet an intelligent space-faring species, the main source of confusion, and wonder on the part of them, will boil down to one question: "how can you have learned so much about electro-magnetism and sub-atomic structures yet still be so confused about gravity that you think mass attracts other mass? "
We're the most brilliant dumbasses to ever crawl out of our pot of primordial soup is how.
@@Attaxalotl even more lucky to become the only intelligent species on earth alone, heck, we shouldn't even be the only sentient species in this planet.
@@ordinaryfellow9093 I don't think you meant to use the word "sentient". Basically you aren't alive if you're not sentient. I think what you meant is that humans are the only species on the planet that has a function in their brain that clearly formulates language so we can pass down ideas. We also weren't the only species to have that ability. We just happened to be the most bloodthirsty and war driven of all of the species that had that ability. We killed off every other species that could.
I'm not anti-human btw. I know what I said comes off like some left wing environmentalist who wants to commit genocide on the entire human race, but I swear I'm not and that I just value truth. Even dark truth. We are lucky our ancestors were the way they were or else we wouldn't be here today.
@@ordinaryfellow9093 Are we, though? There are plenty of other species on our planets we know are extremely intelligent. Even ones that can communicate complex thoughts and can teach others.
The only thing that really sets us apart is how good we are at making and using weapons.
Lefties generally won't say a word like "we" so it doesn't look like that, that kind of word assumes an amount of responsibility even if small, they tend to offload everything bad to the privileged class, like their neighbor who worked hard running a small business... Uh before "the lockdown" came, which put them out of business, But yeah if not for them... Uh perpetuating the patriarchy! And being all racist and sexist and evil, everyone could be living luxuriously within nature in harmony with talking vegan animals, intermingling and the like while drinking starbucks, and getting paid (with something I guess) to take liberal arts courses... Ah all irrelevant... I hate canada
This is good! Usually the aliens are unrealistically human-like.
Brain big, size intelligence...
"When are aliens and humans ever going to learn 'size don't matter'?"
it matters to a degree, right when it stops mattering
That's what she said....
@@ShortsLover692 hehe, I did walk into that one...
@@rnojr11 Yep you sure did.....
This should become a series
It is on Reddit’s r/hfy there are multiple chapters.
This story helped me realize that we truly are musical beings, just like the birds and other animals we "vibrate air" powerfully enough to pick it up even hundreds of yards away. That's a pretty cool superpower.
Funny how this Ambassador is so unqualified for their job.
Like WHAT THE HELL? Any questions asked by the Alien would be easily understandable. How smart is that Ambassador? 60IQ?
Likely a mix of shock and awe.
Even a simple nerve-racking interaction in daily life can make you do silly things, so imagine one to this scale.
Add in that the translator was having trouble putting together their thoughts and vice versa, on top of the massive difference in perspective and that the average person isn't too smart to begin with, then you've got a massive mess of an interaction on your hands.
@@xCoNa14 Not to mention the clearly different thought process for either species. Humans can´t know everything, but can specialise and cooperate. The alien on the other hand knows everything their species knows through the hive mind, but seems unable to even understand the concept of specializing in one specific area/task as a career/way of life. Basically, it's the difference between a team of specialists and a jack of all trades
She is an average Jane, not a politician. Why they hired her?
@@xCoNa14 All valid reasons. She still acts like a completely untrained ambassador.
Like she got sent in day 1 when she applied for academy.
@@ShortsLover692because an avarage Jane is way smarter then any corrupt untrustworthy politician.
Ender's Game but it ends nicely lol.
I was thinking more like Children of Time. That one dug deeper into the problem of communication
@@docogg50 I was thinking more like the Formic Wars never happened but yeah
Please make a part 2! The alien is cute
I would honestly eat it
I feel like some inspiration was drawn from Project Hail Mary, great story would love to hear the series
It seems the alien never heard of Amazon.
😂
How the hell they selected the said ambassador 😂😂😂
..... Oh shit here we go again.
I want more of this story
This is funny. A well written story.
Okay, this is interesting...
I really liked this story as I think this is a pretty realistic way for a peaceful first contact to go.
I'm confused. This was already posted, but was re-uploaded? Part 2 seems to have been removed too.
The humans improve the translator, it was malfunctioning because the alien says many things at once. The alien is a bit taken back, then scared because her ancestors were threatened by creatures that are small and many. Her species is also one to a planet, to give them time to learn.
Yeah UA-cam removed it because other channels had the same story. Im glad its back here, it has the best text to speech ive seen.
This is the story I've been looking for😂😂😂. I first listened to this when I started listening to HFY stories on UA-cam. It has always been on my mind and I'm glad I'm back to it. TBH it feels off, like some parts missing, but it definitely is the one😂❤
I defiantly feel there should be a part 2
Is there a part 2?
Awesome and too short. I'm going to track down the story to be able to read the rest- thanks for bringing such good fiction to my attention!
The link to the story is in the description. When I chatted to the author, there were more parts, but he didn't number them, so I'll check with him for the order and get a few more parts added.
"They were stupid."
...yeah? Were you expecting Einstein?
Good story. Loved it. I'd love to hear more of these.
Aw noooooo I want more 😭
Wow our ambassador is not really good at her job, just indulge the aliens without revealing military or trade secrets.
This is a series... Now when do we get the next part? 😊
Our hive mind is our society, our government. The internet is the closest to fast hive mind way of communication
I wish we had minor hive mind or a sorta genetic memory for survival stuff
Sooooo....what kind of transmission did we catch if it's a hive mind, no computers and no different species communication?
i really like this kind of interaction, frustration caused by misunderstanding due to the vast cultural and biological difference of two alien species
we, as human are like specialized neurons... when you rub two together it does things...
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yeah
Are going to upload the other parts?
Yes, "humans are not a machine race" is out on Monday and I'll be releasing all the rest after that.
Is there a continuation to this story or it ends like so?
Its a book called Synchronizing Minds: First Contact. It used to be a collection of reddit stories
I hate how all these stories end with an upward voice inflection. I guess it’s an AI reading it, but they always sound like they’re ending on a question or incomplete thought.
Any chance youll upload the following parts?
A picture is worth a thousand words ... perhaps a video montage to explain things would be more effective ... for example of how something is made from start to finish.
OMG! it ended with 'TELL ME MORE'.... tell me more of this story! whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy did you stop here ? :- (((
Is this a redo?
Nope theft from icefiction look it up yourself...
Why not finish the other chapters
Basically enders game
Thanks!
Thank you Sarah!
Part 2
Part 2! Where is part 2?! Aaaaahhhh it cut off right at the good part!!!
Yeah this is the best text to speech software for these ive found so far.
very good.
🔥🎉
cheers
really nice channel but why put only 2 to 3 words on the screen when you can put the complete sentence? this is a bit annoying 😅
the image is a a praying mantis, described as sapien and then described a snake. wtf
Docm77 have a Hive Mind XD ...
Good story for the most part, but the part of the human ambassador could have been written better. Then again "randomly selecting" some turd to go represent all of humanity was kinda idiotic plot in and of itself. If not for that, I would not really have much to complain about.
I'm trying to find a story about 2 humans going to space university for engineering. One likes racing there's a lizard alien girl a bird alien how's a spy and the teacher and principal try to get the humans expelled out of fear of the predators. I liked it but can't find it duse eneyone now it.
This is literrally a Human propaganda channel.... and i love it lol
"Short".
It is a whole book by now.
tell me you dont read books without telling me you dont read books :O
@JokeofAllButts The author combined this story with 3 others, and posted the book on Amazon.
There's a link in the description to the original story, and from there, an A/N that points to the sequel stories (they seem to be chapters, essentially), and an Amazon link to the book.
Ok
Let me be honest... Neil is... not the sharpest tool. When the question came about a "hive mind" it should have clicked that this guy is not one but many, therefore any question/inquiry is based on "hive mind mentality" and an explanation of individuality is required in order to move this meeting forward. I'm just a regular guy, but even I know that... so why is Neil an idiot? (I know, I know... Cause the plot demands it!)
WHO READS THESE?
why pUt picture of nantis? its destroying our imagination
It helps people who struggle imagining beings, or gives an easy frame of reference. I have a good imagination, so I just close my eyes and listen.
thats like claiming that showing us a picture of a dog would make us unable to imagine a cat cause they are somewhat same looking...
I think its because we usually associate Hive minds with insect like creature
It's AI