Buy Plants Like a Grower
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- Опубліковано 16 січ 2024
- When nursery growers start plants, they want to pick from a wide selection of the newest and most interesting plants. Isn't that what every gardener wants? For many home gardeners, though, your options are limited down to the "picks" of your local garden centers.
Whether you're a cut flower grower, a small farmer that wants to add some perennials to your farm stand, an aspiring backyard grower, or just an avid plant lover who wants to see all the options, this video is for you. I'll discuss the different ways to add a wider selection (and better pricing) to your plant purchasing. I'll also discuss how teaming up to pool orders with other small growers is a win-win for all involved.
Now, the specific supplier info in this vid is obviously based on the marker I know: North America. Nevertheless, the basic options would be similar wherever you go: seeds, bulbs & bare root, cuttings & plugs. So I hope you can get something out of this no matter where you're joining us from!
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My mom was a cutting queen when I was growing up.. I now understand why because paying for 10 plants at 15$ per pop is silly when you can just buy one in the spring and make 20 more over the summer. They really do grow quicker then we think when we keep potting um up as soon as they need it
Thanks for sharing. It's a petty neat hobby too, just sticking a few cuttings every week and see where they go! Whether you plant them yourself later, give them away or sell them it's totally worth the time!
Jason your a great asset to many communities across the globe .you share great info and we do appreciate that!
I'm so glad you introduced us to Jelitto (I think first in the "Plants THEY don't want you to know about!" video. In the US, it looks like they operate through Select Seeds. I love how they label heirloom plants and give the histories, as well as cultivation info. Last year I got to see my burkheya 'Zulu Warrior' from them bloom. Still hoping for digitalis 'Monstera' to bloom!
You and Garden Fundamels offer the most science based plant information that I find on UA-cam. How does bottom watering vs top watering affect inside humidity.
Somewhat. Evaporation from the top layer of the soil after watering spikes the humidity, where the same amount of water added to the soil by bottom watering will still enter the air - but slower and more usefully, through the plant's transpiration. If you can manage any extra trouble of bottom watering, it's a decent measure.
Thank you, so kind of you to share this information. I really appreciate you making these videos as your presentations are well done and well thought out.
Thanks for the encouragement Tess
Thanks so much for the information, well organized and easy to follow!
I appreciate the feedback and encouragement!
Thank you so much for this advice. I did check around found a small broker and southern grower that took my smallish order and I sure saved alot of money for my small flower farm. Thank You!
Great information, thanks. In the US, Prairie Moon and Prairie Nursery sell plug trays of native plants -- I suspect the prices are more retail than wholesale, but they are aimed at home gardeners who want to have more natives in their landscapes. They do let you mix and match in a single tray, which is more trouble than a wholesaler would probably want to go to. Plugs are a really good way to cover a lot of ground. I have planted carex plugs in my wooded ravine (Zone 6b/7 Hudson Valley NY) and given the rainy summer we had last year, they took off beautifully. Plugs are also easy to plant.
Thanks for sharing that! I have been looking for a native plant wholesaler!
Thanks for sharing that source! Even if it's a little more retail than wholesale, it's good to have options for smaller plants at lower prices, and that mix-and-match option is great. As a small grower myself, I love when I'm able to buy just 32 of a plant instead of 100+
This is a FANTASTIC resource! Thank you. There are so many amazing ornamental plants that nurseries just don’t carry, and even most seed companies geared towards the home grower are very limited in what they offer, just getting them can be a challenge. Having the world of suppliers open to us is amazing!
You're so welcome!
This is fantastic! I've been selling spring starts but really want to get more into nicely sized perennials and was looking at cuttings/plugs to get a bit earlier start. Its daunting to look at, and take that jump 😅 I also spent an insane amount of time trying just to find suppliers/brokers. Thank you!
I’ve got rose and angle trumpet cuttings going right now oh and two plum trees. I don’t have the set up you do but I have put African violet cuttings in and I don’t have any growth yet but I do have roots in some. I’ve also been buying a few seeds from regular folks like myself off fb market place
Cheers Jason, Thanks!
Well presented as always :)
Awesome video. This helps tremendously. Great tips!! Much appreciated!
So helpful, thank you so much for this information!
Thank you so much for this video!
GREAT VIDEO!There was a TON of information in there. ☆Thank you Kindly!☆
Thank you, Jason!
Thanks so much for the info It was just in time I just started looking for seed and plug growers there are very few locally here and some them there prices are crazy
Thank you! Great info !
My pleasure!
Yes! This video is gold thanks! Been wanting something just like this: sources!
My pleasure.
Thank you so much. It's hard to find growers in SC for the smaller nurseries so this helps. Thanks!
So happy to help
Amazing videos I just discover your canal so many good information thank you ❤
Thanks so much Charon
Thank you so much Jason for such a wonderful video. You have become my go to guide for all things small plant business and even growing in general. I love your no nonsense approach when it comes to imparting garden and business wisdom. I'm a small business owner (by small, I mean, imagine the smallest possible business) here in the southern part of US. I'm moving to Canada this year. So I'm essentially leaving everything behind and starting anew. I want to start a small plant business once I'm in Ontario. But the land prices and everything else have got my head spinning. Do you have any wisdom to share when it comes to Government (or other) help when it comes to small business? Would you be able to share it here in a comment or make a video about it? Thank you so much for your help! - Anila
Hi Anila. I'm definitely able to talk about some of the requirement for setting up a nursery in Canada (which are generally less onerous that the requirements in some states). Getting financial help from the government is a blind spot for me, as it's not something I've been eager to engage in. There are some small grants available through the CDAP program to help with setting up online marketing. BDC is a government backed bank/program to support small businesses. That's where I might start.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you so much for your prompt response Jason! I'll look into CDAP and also the BDC for their business loans. I'll keep my eyes peeled for more informative videos from you in the meanwhile. Please know that your videos do make a difference and we all appreciate your efforts. Have a wonderful day!
Oh my gosh! I just found you. Your information was just what I needed. I’m thinking of getting into the small business area, using plugs. I live in the NE region of Wa. 30 miles north of Spokane. Our winters can be very cold. This will help me a lot. Thank you SK
Thanks Sandra. Good to hear from you, and I'm glad you found it useful. I'm hoping to get out this coming year to visit the Rosarium Garden Center out your way!
I will not buy more seeds. I will not buy more seeds. ✋ I've learned my limits with my attention span for seed starting, so it's winter sowing for me since they take pretty good care of themselves. I'll look at some of those seed suppliers next year for sure.
Lol. I'm glad you're being disciplined.
Thanks, great info!
Appreciate it!
What a way to start the year Jason.👌
A topic to discuss is, Timing.
Many growers and suppliers will not ship during the hard winter (Jan, Feb, early March) to ensure prroduct survival and of course quality.
Very valuable information.🤙
Thanks!
It’s like you were reading my mind. I am a small home gardener and I’ve been looking to get a ton of plugs for a project, but have no idea if it was possible or where to start. I’m looking for perennial plugs maybe not 1000, but definitely a few hundred any suggestions for me? I’m in California.
Well firstly (and lowest cost) is that you still have time for seed starting. I mentioned Jelitto (a perennial specialty seed supplier) but Geoseed and Hazzard's are also quite good. If you want to go straight to plugs, you have plenty of suppliers in California. One that I mentioned in the video was Plug Connection, and they list brokers on their site. If you don't want the hassle of setting up accounts yourself, I do suggest getting in contact with other local growers (small nursery, flower farmer, landscape professionals) who already have an account and might jump at the chance to add your plugs to their own order to help achieve their order minimums.
Thank you, Jason, very informative video.
Have you ever shipped Azaleas?
Recently lost 2 shipments from separate growers
Not sure if summer is too hot, or they dont like being in sealed box for too many days.
Interested to hear your thoughts. Thank you
It's not something I've propagated or shipped, but I wouldn't expect rhodos to love a hot summer so I'm leaning in that direction.
The problem I have is finding a few varieties of Salvia (farinacea and coccinea) that aren't generally carried by local nurseries, either as seeds or available plants in the spring. We know they'll grow here (Zone 8b). I can get the seeds online, but that raises the issue of needing to grow the seeds indoors prior to spring. For so few plants (say 18-24), it seems expensive to have an indoor growing setup just for that little number of plants.
I went the low cost approach for small amounts of seed starting. I bought a lamp at a 2nd hand store and then put in a grow lighbulb. It covered most of a flat of seedlings and every day I turned the flat of seedlings so the other side got the better light. It works and is cheap for a small amount of plants you start from seeds.
You can use daylight LED bulbs to grow now a days and they don’t cost more then pennies a day to run. You can even use normal lamps you have kicking around or at a thrift shop. They have come a long way since LED it’s worth checking out
Thanks. It depends on what you mean by "indoor growing setup". It can be as simple as a seedling tray on a warm windowsill if you just want to cheat ahead by a couple of weeks from last frost. The earlier your start, the more it makes the case for supplemental light, but it doesn't have to be a dedicated LED grow light panel. Basic white LED shop lights or fluorescent replacements can do the job nicely for a few weeks.
This is very helpful! Thank you!
Any tips on ordering internationally? I know there are a lot of phytosanitary regulations to get through.
And have you ever tried to get seeds or cuttings from a botanical garden or other plant collection?
My pleasure. Using a large broker like Ball can be a *massive* advantage when trying to buy plants internationally. Of course, most of my experience is with the Canada/US border. With my former employer we did a smaller amount from overseas, but always with a broker - who deals with the phyto/customs requirements. My only advice is to always verify in advance that they're taking care of all the necessary steps.
As for botanical gardens, yes, I took a lot of cuttings up at Summerland Gardens when I visited around 18 months ago. I had connected with the leader of their "rose team" through a rose society meeting, and the rest came pretty naturally. It's just a matter of connecting with the right people I suppose - somebody is maintaining those plants!
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thanks so much!
Fascinating and very helpful, as usual. Thank you!
As a tree farm I’ve found it real tough to find local places that want to deal with me as I seek to expand into more shrubs/perennials and annuals.
About 3/4 of the places I contacted did not even respond to me! Oh well just means I have to do it myself 🤣
Thanks for sharing your experience on this. Alberta can be a tough climate for horticulture, and a lot of the supply comes in from BC. You can work with some of the same brokers, but the minimums involved and cost of shipping definitely makes starting plants yourself an attractive option.
got a question, last year arround may 2023 i bought a rose bush (rosa nostalgea). Do i need to trim/prune it this year before the growing season?. Or it wise to start pruning once its at least 2 years in the ground?. Its about 35/40 cm right now
I think I like your second answer better. A couple of years helps to establish a good framework - and really, it's more about managing for size, shape and health. I'd nip away any damaged, diseased, weak or crossing stems but wait until it's almost oversized before worrying about heavier structural pruning.
Another great video. Can you sell to US?
Sorry, but no. For our small-scale nursery it's not practical to spend our efforts on all the administrative work it takes to send plants across the border.
Hi Jason ! I think I missed where you buy dry root plants from? I’m in Ontario
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I use Van Noort here, and they operate in Ontario as well. They do bulbs, bare root, some plugs, dried flowers and roses.
Do plugs need to potted up prior to planting out in the landscape? I’m looking at rosemary plugs.
Generally I'd say yes. In something like a 162 tray, the plugs are quite small and would likely struggle to establish quickly in the landscape (esp if there's challenging weather). I'd feel safer growing on to a 4 or 6" pot first before digging them in.
Very helpful, thank you!
Do the suppliers you mentioned collect sales tax? What I have found is some suppliers will sell to you without a license, but they expect you to collect sales tax from the end user.
Tax laws vary from place to place. In my area the suppliers will charge sales tax if you don't provide them with a tax number of your own to indicate you'll be collecting the tax. Then again in Canada you don't collect sales tax at all until you have over 30k in sales. So it's something you have to research case by case.
Buying high quality top size bulbs here is achievable in the US, because there are wholesalers - like ColorBlends and Van Engelen - that also sell retail. The challenge is plugs. This is common practice in the UK. But in the US? The people who grow plugs/liners here are largely wholesale only. The only option in most cases seems to be a broker/reseller. A home gardener (being retail) could pay for that same tray of plugs, double the wholesale price. That is my experience. That just does not seem right to me. NB Most residential landscapers and small independent nurseries around here do not order from these places - thereby asking them to order plugs is a pretty big ask…
More and more people like me are planting naturally - in large drifts . There is an increasing demand for plugs - or at least what I would call starts. There are definitely retail nurseries here in the US who get that - but they are very few and far between….
Thanks for your point of view Emma. The crux of the matter is when you say "around here" - but the gardeners and growers in each region have their own availability situation. I can't speculate on the plug situation in the UK (myself being in Canada) but the North American horticulture market (and *particularly* the US) has an amazing supply chain of plug growers - and many independent local growers. More than anything, I'm encouraging small flower farmers, backyard growers and individuals alike to scope out and share info about their suppliers - and perhaps work together to pool orders to everyone's benefit. To the average gardener it might seem like "no one" is selling plugs with reasonable minimums even in my own market - but they'd be wrong! I was pooling orders with other farmers market vendors long before I took on growing full-time.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm What I am trying to say is exactly that. It is regional. Here in the Northeast US, buying seeds, corms, bulbs --- all of that is absolutely achievable. Plugs -- no so much. You need a good friend in the trade or with a business license... That is my experience. Thank you for talking about this.
Thank for information Jason. I am a local small quantity grower. Can I have Ball Account?
I bet you could. I signed up when our nursery was quite small, and even before I was registered as a business.
I’m in my onion era.
Freight rates are HIGH!
Totally - so it often makes sense to look for the smallest viable inputs. 288 trays, or unrooted cuttings instead of large bare root.