I always run paper, even if I’m losing. It’s always awesome when your opponent thinks: “surely they won’t go paper 6 times in a row” then lose to paper.
"Scissors, Paper, Rock, PAPER" "Scissors, Paper, Rock, SCISSORS" "Ha, you always do paper" "(Sigh) I'm a loser at home and a loser at work" -Those two guys from the start of the lego Batman movie
no, because then everyone picks gun all the time. If you don't pick gun, it is an automatic loss, same if you do. So the only way to counteract gun is for both players to convene to never use gun.
@@EdKolis Assuming random choices: gun = 50% win chance (because it's a binary choice) Everything else = 16.(6)% win chance (because it's the rest of the probabilities equally distributed) Explain where is the incentive to not use gun.
During college orientation, we had a rock paper scissors contest across the ENTIRE freshman class. Joey the GOAT won that championship. How? He just played rock EVERY time! We all love Joey. I've never heard of a Joey-hater.
rock wins so often, I upgrade the offer to best-2-out-of-3 and then scissors wins so often, and then I say they didn't have to let me win, and then they laugh and we both win
VERY misleading title A truly random strategy in rock-paper-scissors will not let you win more often, it will simply prevent you from losing more often no matter how good your opponent is at predicting you. Randomness is certainly the optimum strategy using Game Theory, however this is not because it's a good strategy. Rock-Paper-Scissors is one of those games that Game Theory isn't great at, because for EVERY non-perfectly-random strategy there is a potential opposing strategy that counters it. Game Theory's strategy of perfect randomness will let you always have exactly 50% chance to win - no more and no less. It's both a lower bound AND an UPPER bound. Therefore you should only use it if you think you would have less than 50% without it; i.e. if you think your opponent is at least as good at predicting you as you are at predicting them. Against most opponents psychology is just better.
Do ypi agree wotj me that his saying ra dom randomness is the same as order is technically semanticslly wrong..and just redudnant..i dont see how that wpuldmlead to more eins anywaybas youbsay..and when youbsay game theory wil only gove yoin50 percent chance pf winning..isnthat because you have a 1 in 2 chance in this particular game of your opponent having a winning hand?
Wouldn't using a random strategy let you win more than if you use another type of strategy for example tho ? In that sense, I think it can be said that it will let you win more. But this is if we suppose someone would try to use a strategy and to guess by default. Otherwise, everyone knows the game is random and is virtually already using the optimum strategy by default. So in the end, I guess it's a particular case where we could say this title is appropriate.
@@kyurei4478 No. Using a random strategy (win rate 50%) will only let you win more if your win rate with a nonrandom strategy is < 50% (i.e. your opponent is using a strategy that counters your strategy). But if you expect your opponent to use a strategy that counters the one you planned to use, then you can ALWAYS change your strategy to counter theirs instead (win rate > 50%), so using a random strategy lets you win less, not more. If you have no idea what strategy your opponent is using, you can still estimate what they'll do based on what average rock-paper-scissors players are more likely to do, and you'll still have a positive win rate against more people than not. Even in the VERY RARE case that your opponent happens to be carrying a random number generator to make their own strategy random (human brains are NOT designed for randomness, so anyone trying to be random without an external random number generator will still have patterns and can still be countered as above), your win rate will always be 50%, so using a random strategy will STILL not let you win more than a nonrandom strategy.
@@trikzzznlafzzz4027Start with 3-element RPS. Spock (🖖) defeats rock and scissors, and lizard (all fingers but thumb curved and placed against thumb) Spock and paper.
"Do not a thought let a thought enter your mind" Or use the "Ancient Technique" Of only throwing stone. When challenging someone to Rock, Paper, Crossed Blades....
I've always heard Westerners say that people usually play rock first, whereas I've always thought that scissors was a much more common opening move, and I never understood why. Hearing you say 'people normally choose rock first because the name of the game starts with rock' made me realize why: Instead of 'Rock, Paper, Scissors', when I was a kid in Malaysia, we called it 'Scissors, Paper, Stone'.
I don't think this is torslly.clear or hemoful though isnit, all due respect..and isnt randim randpmness just redundant? I don't see how it means thensame as order
The confidence and focus levels a player exudes can be used to predict how many layers deep the opponent is thinking. For example, if you act like you don't care much about the game as you agree to play, then the opponent will probably think you're going with the default choice of rock, so you should use scissors. If when you agree to play someone, you act shy, and like you're carefully considering what to use for just a brief moment, then the opponent won't suspect the default choice of rock. So use rock and surprise them. If you agree to play someone and act like you're really thinking about what to use (but not TOO much), then the opponent will likely assume you've gone through these common steps: 1. Considering rock but deciding it's too obvious. 2. Considering paper but respecting your opponent by thinking they wouldn't be obvious enough to pick rock. 3. Deciding on scissors because it seems random and unexpected. Then you pick paper and win because they pick rock to counter this number of layers. If you agree to play someone and pretend like you're REALLY thinking about what to use, then smirk like you thought of something clever, then the opponent will assume you're trying to be smart by picking the unexpected dumb option of rock. So use scissors and destroy them.
@@artugert the reason I thought there was a chance at sarcasm is because it's 4 minutes and 38 seconds of a video they chose to watch. it's not like the creator has telepathy and is teaching the viewers the secret to it. and also, it's only 4 minutes and 38 seconds. which is why I thought he was being sarcastic. as in "oh no my 4 minutes and 38 seconds, I want it back" kind of sarcastic. and to answer question two, yes, I did get something from it. I've always wondered whether it's best to reverse psychology my way through it or to just choose the first thing that came to mind. he confirmed that being truly random is the way to go, so I got my question answered.
You missed the most important part known to true rock paper scissors professionals. Players have a type. Know the type and you have an advantage. Aggresive people or males in general prefer rock. Thats why you use paper against them. Women tend to favour paper and scissours. Thats why you throw scissors against them, unless they seem dominant.
it's like the iq meme where the one on the left and right are like "i'm gonna go random" and the middle one is like: "ahhhhhhh i gotta calculate and triple bluff"
I don't know if it's prediction but once you play someone, even if for very little, you get their patterns already and/or can predict what they will do next, always leaving you with the victory.
With a group of friends we once played Rock, Paper, Scissors up to 5 and the first three I repeatedly ost and then I won anyways. I don't remember what I did, but that made me think that with lay people the random option is not the best option.
Two strategies work well: Tit for Tat and Pavlovian Tit for Tat means you start out random then every round just play the last thing your opponent played Pavlovian means that once you lose, change your strategy to what would have won last time Random works well 50% of the time but you can theoretically increase your win rate with another strategy
In German the game is called "Scissors, Rock, Paper" translated ("Schere, Stein, Papier"), probably due to an easier pronunciation in that order. This leads to German players starting with scissors more often than 1/3 of the times. So knowing cultural differences could be added as a third hack to the game. ;D
something you didn't mention is that in the rare case that you and your opponent have drawn twice in a row on two different objects, dont go to the third because that is what they will do. Instead go back to the first one to beat them.
My personal go-to is "picking the thing that would beat the hand I just played", as most people don't go further than "he may play the same thing again" and "he may expect me to think he's gonna play the same thing again".
this video is small enough that I feel comfortable leaking my prep, I go paper paper rock and then scissors/rock based no the opponents body language and then I refuse to play any more
The problem with just throwing out random signs is this: 1. You still might simply get unlucky and throw out a losing sign. This is especially the case when your opponent is also trying to be random. 2. Your opponent might assume you're going to pick a certain sign for whatever reason while trying to predict you, and then without thinking about it you might flash that sign anyway even though it doesn't match your opponent's reasoning. 3. Even if you do occasionally still win, you actually have a less than 50% chance of throwing out a winning random sign. You have three signs to choose from and only one is a winning sign. This is only about a 33% chance of flashing the exact right sign you need to win the round. As such, even by throwing out random signs you're still likely to end up losing more often than you are winning. To boost your odds of winning, instead consider the following: 1. Pay attention to what most people use in the first round and make it your habit to always flash the sign that beats that sign. For example, if most people flash rock first, always play paper first. If most people do scissors first, always go rock. It can vary from place to place what most people in the area lean towards for the first round, but once you've got a read on it you'll start winning the first round more often than not. Don't do this with people you play with often however, as you'll start to become too predictable and they will counter you. 2. Assuming you're playing best two out of three, don't let the pressure get to you. Think of it like playing poker; your opponent is going to be reading your face to try to help them predict your next move, even if only subconsciously. Play it cool and try to get a read on your opponent instead of worrying about yourself. Pay attention to things like how they react to the outcome of the first round and whether they are the type to make bold risks in the second round. Whether you stay or switch to another sign depends on your read on your opponent. Try to get a feel for details such as whether they're trying to flash signs to counter your most recent move or whether they keep flashing the same sign a lot and make your own judgement call on what to do next. Some players might use this mentality against you, but most random people aren't going to be thinking that deep into it. You're more likely to get a correct read on your opponent if it's someone you're more familiar with from spending personal time together, such as a close friend or relative. 3. Keep several different strategies in mind. If you have someone you play with often it will help you to be able to switch around your strategy to keep them guessing. For instance, flashing signs on a rotation, picking one sign in particular for each round that you will not play even in a tie and flipping between the other two until the round ends, picking a favorite sign and only using it, etc. Try to think up as many individual strategies as you can and keep them memorized so that you can switch it up on the fly and remain unpredictable. This still won't be foolproof but keeping these three things in mind you will bolster your odds rather significantly. Almost always winning the first round in best two out of three against most opponents is already a big help on its own.
How to always win, for real: Put you hand behind your head while you do scissors with your hand. Make sure the opponent sees it but pretend like you don't know that they see it. This will make the opponent believe that you are going to do scissors so they will do rock. Quickly switch to paper in the last second.
To increase your chances even further start running around with scissors two weeks before the game begins. Break into your opponents house and whisper scissors into their ear while they sleep.
I switch between them all at random in a quick succession, and whichever form my hand makes is the one I pick (but I usually start with scissors and when playing normally, pick scissors 😂)
There have actually been at least two round robin competitions for computer programs to play umpteen rounds of rock paper scissors (they called it Ro-sham-bo). They were seeded with some programs that each used a simple strategy like "random" or "good ol' rock, nothing beats rock" or "60% rock 20% paper 20% scissors", and then people could submit programs that did whatever. The winners were basically the ones that could detect and exploit non-rsndom strategies the fastest, by calculating "okay which of these umpteen strategies would have worked best for me if I had played it from the start". (And one of those strategies was "random", to cut their losses when facing another good predictor.)
in my experience, no, this did not help, so this is my strategy! you said most pick rock first, but in my experience with r, p, s, they usually pick scissors first. i think this is because the last word you hear is: scissors. i always pick rock first, which gives me a over 70% win rate. HOWEVER, if you can tell someone as won quite a lot, and has a smug look, roll paper to cancel their rock because they had the same idea. in r, p, s, the goal most people have is to defend, rather than attack. if you pick to attack, you have the higher ground. feel free to reply for questions, ive had people plan strategically in groups to take me down.. they dont get the better of me.
I was a lead teacher in a 4K classroom, and I've played so many children, setting them up for a lifelong journey of sizing up the psychology of your opponent.
My dad always called the game paper scissors rock. I wonder if playing against him I should choose scissors first because he thinks paper is the default?
I'm my amature opinion, which got me to the regional finals, waterfall is the strongest opening move. It gets inside your opponents head and they are confused as to why you keep throwing rock. After the fourth throw of rock, throw paper to let them know you know other postures, regardless what they've selected, they won't expect you to go back to rock, but they will have almost certainly chosen rock or paper, netting you a point or a draw. The trick is to get in the head of your opponent and lead the match so that they are trying to react to you, so they are unstable from the beginning. Play to your selection, not that of your opponent. The only reason I lost that final match was that I slipped up and played to my opponent.
On the first round, boys always pick rock and girls always pick scissors. After the first round, it could go any which way, but you can win the first round 95% of the time!
There's actually more to it than that, you can prime your opponent by "Casually" reminding them of the rules beforehand, and gesturing which sign you "want" them to throw, for instance throwing scissors when saying "Scissors beats paper" primes their brain to throw scissors on their next hand. Been doing this for years when it comes to doing the so-called "undesirable" task of who goes and talks to the customer service reps in my friends group for years, and so far, never lost. >:D
My strat: More often than not, the tendency is that the first loser's SECOND move will be to beat the winner's FIRST move. So if Max's rock is beat by Jim's paper, then Max will likely throw scissors on round two. He's playing catch-up. But Jim knows this tendency, will _expect_ scissors, and throw rock to beat it...So Max should throw paper. Basically: If you win round one, throw the same hand on the following round. If you lose round one, throw the opposing hand on the following round. I rarely lose Rock, Paper, Scissors this way.
I feel like everyone throws scissors first. But then again everyone probably thinks that, which is why rock is the most common. Paper is slightly less common because you should throw it to beat the most common one.
I feel like all this info is only helpful if you're playing multiple games back to back. Most of the time it's only played one single time to break a tie or see who goes first in something. So like... pick paper since most choose rock? lol
The strategy that I used to beat my brother every time when we did 3 rounds is I would do rock twice to make him think I was just going to do the same thing but then I’d switch to scissors on the last one (we didn’t play very often, only sometimes to decide on something so he didn’t remember but I also used this strategy with other people as well with decent success)
best way is always to know your opponent. I like sissors, so I will pick it more often when not playing psychology. If you're going to go random, might as well choose the option that appeals most to you so that you win in your mind for choosing the best option, instead of tie
Basically, the moral of the story is don't choose scissors first, and if you don't want to lose, be random, because that won't help you win, but it won't make you lose either
5 year old me breaking the laws of physics to win a game of rock paper scissors: "oh yeah? well i chose [insert lethal weapon or large scale destructive force here]"
Used to LARP and we used RPS as our system of challenges. We would start bluffing by literally telling folks what were gonna throw at them. 9/10 they took the bait.
Against people that aren't interested in R.P.S. game theory, my go to strat is: Lead with paper. After that throw what would have lost to your opponent last round. That is: if they throw paper in round 2, I'll throw rock in round 3.
I ignore what I'm doing and focus on the other player. They'll often play the thing that beats the last thing they did. If they do paper, they'll likely do scissors next. If they do scissors, they'll likely do rock next
It’s definitely influenced by how high the stakes are. If you’re just playing for fun, people won’t think that hard and take risks, like playing rock 10 times in a row just to see how the other person reacts. But if it’s, say, for who has to do the dishes, it’s definitely going to be much more high-stakes, and people won’t take as many risks like that
The true best stratagy is picking shoot "rock paper sissors, shoot" If you shoot your opponent they will be unable to use one of their 3 options and if they also pick shoot than you must shoot them before they shoot you
say "im gonna choose rock" and then theyll think youre tryna get them to choose paper, so they think youre choosing scissors. then, they play rock. all you gotta do is play paper
Regular player - Go random? Expert player - position your hand in a way to alternate between paper or scissors (or rock or.paper) as you keep an eye on their hand and do the play alternation before it is fully thrown allowing you to see and counter the enemy play before they played it! The lore goes deep!
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Random (if you could do it) doesn't make you win. It just makes you not lose.
When playing Rock, Paper, Scissors, I think choosing paper might be the best choice because most of the time, when your opponent tends to think of rock, you can just use paper to easily win against them
I absolutely second this octuple-bluffing 5D mind games view of rock paper scissors, every time I've tried analysing these bluffing cycles in my head I've gotten confused as well. The playstyle of acting completely random is certainly an interesting and weird one, but then the problem is, that makes your chance of victory a random number, probably a 50/50, instead of ''every time.''
My theory was that as you have to say "rock paper scissors" people either keep the rock shape as you said, or go with the last item spoken out: scissors. So I typically start with rock, because I'd either win to scissors or draw by both going for rock 🤷🏻♂️ then the mind game begins 😂
In short, the best strat is to be random. You'll outperform someone trying to use a strategy and predict you, but if they're also random, you'll get average results. So you'll do at least as good as average this way, whereas wheb both people are trying to predict the other, it's more likely one person will happen to outperform the other, and it's still based on chance
me and my friends added a new move called pencil, which changes the game to: Scissors > Pencil Pencil > Paper Paper > Rock Rock > Scissors this did nothing in the long run.
If you want to settle some trivial or nontrivial :) matter using Rock, Paper, Scissors in a more random/controlled way, and there is at least one more person present, in addition to the two who are playing, both players can keep their eyes closed the whole time. The third person keeps score, gives countdowns for show of hands, etc - but doesn't announce who won each round, or tell which hand shapes were used. Only when either one of the players reaches the number of victorious rounds necessary to win the whole match, the third person announces the winner, and the players can open their eyes.
TLDR: Throw randomly with 0 thought and don't pick scissors first
even that is too much thought
Remember:paper is the safeest
Noch nie was von Ehrenschere gehört?
say youre gonna do rock first, then pick one randomly because youre evil
I didn't think and that made me throw scissors :v
I always run paper, even if I’m losing. It’s always awesome when your opponent thinks: “surely they won’t go paper 6 times in a row” then lose to paper.
Same for me but I prefer rock
smart
so its 1 5
ah a creature of habit i see
"Scissors, Paper, Rock, PAPER"
"Scissors, Paper, Rock, SCISSORS"
"Ha, you always do paper"
"(Sigh) I'm a loser at home and a loser at work"
-Those two guys from the start of the lego Batman movie
The real fun begins when your opponent has also seen this video
The battle, will be legendary
Lol
Exactly so it's not possible for someone to win everytime so why say that??
@@leif1075because of exaggeration
@@VENG-k1d finally a worthy opponent
Fun fact: no one searched for this video.
True
Yeah this just showed up out of nowhere
Yep just showed up
true
it was in my recommended feed. now I'm subscribed
To sum the video up: You can't be anticipated if you behave random. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
And now we're back where we started😂😂😂😂
Yes, gun
Gun beats everything, including gun (if both players play gun, everybody loses)
What about bazooka? Or tank? Or ICBM?
@@EdKolis no
no, because then everyone picks gun all the time. If you don't pick gun, it is an automatic loss, same if you do. So the only way to counteract gun is for both players to convene to never use gun.
@@hctiBelttiL but if both players pick gun, they both lose, so there's an incentive to not choose gun
@@EdKolis
Assuming random choices:
gun = 50% win chance (because it's a binary choice)
Everything else = 16.(6)% win chance (because it's the rest of the probabilities equally distributed)
Explain where is the incentive to not use gun.
I usually only play this game with kids and when i think i am about to lose, i use "adult's rock" and i always win.
That’s just evil
You mean adult Gons rock?
that's hilarious
wait until one of them steal your adult paper..
lmao
During college orientation, we had a rock paper scissors contest across the ENTIRE freshman class. Joey the GOAT won that championship. How? He just played rock EVERY time! We all love Joey. I've never heard of a Joey-hater.
I've never met the guy and I love Joey too
this is what i do
Paper, Scissors, Rock!
"I've never heard of a Joey hater."
True. Best Friends spin-off of all time.
The evil person who plays paper every single round:
i always choose rock first and i have like a 60% win rate
That's because everyone you play against expects better from you.
Technicaly All options are equal. idk why expect anything
Most start with scissors and at one point you know if they are or aren't gonna choose scissors
rock wins so often, I upgrade the offer to best-2-out-of-3 and then scissors wins so often, and then I say they didn't have to let me win, and then they laugh and we both win
Fr tho
I always do it because I'm lazy
"Every time" means 100% of the time which is kinda unlikely.
33% of the time it works every time.
Yeah all I got out of the video was how to win as often as random chance would allow. Not exactly ground-breaking.
@@4saken404 More honest title would have been "how to increase your chance of winning in rock-paper-scissors by roughly 4%".
VERY misleading title
A truly random strategy in rock-paper-scissors will not let you win more often, it will simply prevent you from losing more often no matter how good your opponent is at predicting you.
Randomness is certainly the optimum strategy using Game Theory, however this is not because it's a good strategy. Rock-Paper-Scissors is one of those games that Game Theory isn't great at, because for EVERY non-perfectly-random strategy there is a potential opposing strategy that counters it. Game Theory's strategy of perfect randomness will let you always have exactly 50% chance to win - no more and no less. It's both a lower bound AND an UPPER bound. Therefore you should only use it if you think you would have less than 50% without it; i.e. if you think your opponent is at least as good at predicting you as you are at predicting them. Against most opponents psychology is just better.
Do ypi agree wotj me that his saying ra dom randomness is the same as order is technically semanticslly wrong..and just redudnant..i dont see how that wpuldmlead to more eins anywaybas youbsay..and when youbsay game theory wil only gove yoin50 percent chance pf winning..isnthat because you have a 1 in 2 chance in this particular game of your opponent having a winning hand?
@@leif1075 I can't read this comment...
@@leif1075What foreign language are you speaking?
Wouldn't using a random strategy let you win more than if you use another type of strategy for example tho ? In that sense, I think it can be said that it will let you win more. But this is if we suppose someone would try to use a strategy and to guess by default. Otherwise, everyone knows the game is random and is virtually already using the optimum strategy by default. So in the end, I guess it's a particular case where we could say this title is appropriate.
@@kyurei4478 No. Using a random strategy (win rate 50%) will only let you win more if your win rate with a nonrandom strategy is < 50% (i.e. your opponent is using a strategy that counters your strategy). But if you expect your opponent to use a strategy that counters the one you planned to use, then you can ALWAYS change your strategy to counter theirs instead (win rate > 50%), so using a random strategy lets you win less, not more.
If you have no idea what strategy your opponent is using, you can still estimate what they'll do based on what average rock-paper-scissors players are more likely to do, and you'll still have a positive win rate against more people than not.
Even in the VERY RARE case that your opponent happens to be carrying a random number generator to make their own strategy random (human brains are NOT designed for randomness, so anyone trying to be random without an external random number generator will still have patterns and can still be countered as above), your win rate will always be 50%, so using a random strategy will STILL not let you win more than a nonrandom strategy.
You forgot Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock. This one is the hardest 😉
My version of Rock, Paper, Scissors did not receive this free DLC. Can you elaborate?
Sheldon on the big bang theory is the inventor@@VedanthB9
What is that some one pls explain
@@trikzzznlafzzz4027Start with 3-element RPS. Spock (🖖) defeats rock and scissors, and lizard (all fingers but thumb curved and placed against thumb) Spock and paper.
@@trikzzznlafzzz4027Sheldon from that show big bang theory plays the game that way cuz he's obsessed with that star Trek character or something
1:10 "So I can clearly *not* choose the wine in front of you!!"
Never go up against a Cecilian when death is on the line!
I love this reference so much... Textbook example of someone overthinking it
princess bride reference
0:26 but remember, thats just a theory... a GAME theory!
Dam, he got us there.....
Aaandd…cut!
Matpat
"Do not a thought let a thought enter your mind"
Or use the "Ancient Technique"
Of only throwing stone.
When challenging someone to
Rock, Paper, Crossed Blades....
I don't know how i stumbled on to this, but I'm glad I did! Thanks for sharing mate :)
Except that the title is entirely wrong.
I've always heard Westerners say that people usually play rock first, whereas I've always thought that scissors was a much more common opening move, and I never understood why.
Hearing you say 'people normally choose rock first because the name of the game starts with rock' made me realize why:
Instead of 'Rock, Paper, Scissors', when I was a kid in Malaysia, we called it 'Scissors, Paper, Stone'.
yeah I really don't know. I for one dominate spamming rock 100 times in a row. why people like scissors? no clue.
As a Turkish person, the name is "Rock, Paper, Scissors" for us too, but most people still start with Scissors. It's a cultural thing in my opinion
For me most others start with paper
Interesting. In Chinese, it's called 剪刀 石頭 布: Scissors Rock Cloth. I would've assumed the order would be the same in Malaysia.
You are literally part of my understanding playlist for Stats
I don't think this is torslly.clear or hemoful though isnit, all due respect..and isnt randim randpmness just redundant? I don't see how it means thensame as order
The confidence and focus levels a player exudes can be used to predict how many layers deep the opponent is thinking.
For example, if you act like you don't care much about the game as you agree to play, then the opponent will probably think you're going with the default choice of rock, so you should use scissors.
If when you agree to play someone, you act shy, and like you're carefully considering what to use for just a brief moment, then the opponent won't suspect the default choice of rock. So use rock and surprise them.
If you agree to play someone and act like you're really thinking about what to use (but not TOO much), then the opponent will likely assume you've gone through these common steps:
1. Considering rock but deciding it's too obvious.
2. Considering paper but respecting your opponent by thinking they wouldn't be obvious enough to pick rock.
3. Deciding on scissors because it seems random and unexpected.
Then you pick paper and win because they pick rock to counter this number of layers.
If you agree to play someone and pretend like you're REALLY thinking about what to use, then smirk like you thought of something clever, then the opponent will assume you're trying to be smart by picking the unexpected dumb option of rock. So use scissors and destroy them.
This is the wisest thing I've heard all month
I want 4:38 seconds back please. You didnt teach anything.
can't tell whether this is genuine or sarcasm
@@thelegendsofinu Why would it be sarcastic? Did YOU get anything out of it?
@@artugert the reason I thought there was a chance at sarcasm is because it's 4 minutes and 38 seconds of a video they chose to watch. it's not like the creator has telepathy and is teaching the viewers the secret to it. and also, it's only 4 minutes and 38 seconds. which is why I thought he was being sarcastic. as in "oh no my 4 minutes and 38 seconds, I want it back" kind of sarcastic.
and to answer question two, yes, I did get something from it. I've always wondered whether it's best to reverse psychology my way through it or to just choose the first thing that came to mind. he confirmed that being truly random is the way to go, so I got my question answered.
I am dead serious when I say I need this video yesterday
play a random game random toi get a random result. Yeah great advice there. I am sure you will win every time, those 1/3rd of times you win :p
You missed the most important part known to true rock paper scissors professionals. Players have a type. Know the type and you have an advantage. Aggresive people or males in general prefer rock. Thats why you use paper against them. Women tend to favour paper and scissours. Thats why you throw scissors against them, unless they seem dominant.
it's like the iq meme where the one on the left and right are like "i'm gonna go random" and the middle one is like: "ahhhhhhh i gotta calculate and triple bluff"
I don't know if it's prediction but once you play someone, even if for very little, you get their patterns already and/or can predict what they will do next, always leaving you with the victory.
With a group of friends we once played Rock, Paper, Scissors up to 5 and the first three I repeatedly ost and then I won anyways. I don't remember what I did, but that made me think that with lay people the random option is not the best option.
your logic is unsound
It works.
@@EduardoLanziloti but if you win, your opponent loses. if you always win, your opponent always loses. im just talking about semantics.
Completely mistaken.
Two strategies work well:
Tit for Tat and Pavlovian
Tit for Tat means you start out random then every round just play the last thing your opponent played
Pavlovian means that once you lose, change your strategy to what would have won last time
Random works well 50% of the time but you can theoretically increase your win rate with another strategy
In German the game is called "Scissors, Rock, Paper" translated ("Schere, Stein, Papier"), probably due to an easier pronunciation in that order. This leads to German players starting with scissors more often than 1/3 of the times. So knowing cultural differences could be added as a third hack to the game. ;D
Best way is Paper, Scissors, Rock!
ohne Brunnen!
something you didn't mention is that in the rare case that you and your opponent have drawn twice in a row on two different objects, dont go to the third because that is what they will do. Instead go back to the first one to beat them.
As a geologist, somehow my opponents always know I'll pick the rock
…so only a fool would choose the wine in front of you!
Oh, sorry, different game.
Truly you have a dizzying intellect
inconceivable!
My personal go-to is "picking the thing that would beat the hand I just played", as most people don't go further than "he may play the same thing again" and "he may expect me to think he's gonna play the same thing again".
this video is small enough that I feel comfortable leaking my prep, I go paper paper rock and then scissors/rock based no the opponents body language and then I refuse to play any more
Never reveal your strategies
Mine is just spamming rock and randomly switching to paper and scissors but its mostly rock.
The problem with just throwing out random signs is this:
1. You still might simply get unlucky and throw out a losing sign. This is especially the case when your opponent is also trying to be random.
2. Your opponent might assume you're going to pick a certain sign for whatever reason while trying to predict you, and then without thinking about it you might flash that sign anyway even though it doesn't match your opponent's reasoning.
3. Even if you do occasionally still win, you actually have a less than 50% chance of throwing out a winning random sign. You have three signs to choose from and only one is a winning sign. This is only about a 33% chance of flashing the exact right sign you need to win the round. As such, even by throwing out random signs you're still likely to end up losing more often than you are winning.
To boost your odds of winning, instead consider the following:
1. Pay attention to what most people use in the first round and make it your habit to always flash the sign that beats that sign. For example, if most people flash rock first, always play paper first. If most people do scissors first, always go rock. It can vary from place to place what most people in the area lean towards for the first round, but once you've got a read on it you'll start winning the first round more often than not. Don't do this with people you play with often however, as you'll start to become too predictable and they will counter you.
2. Assuming you're playing best two out of three, don't let the pressure get to you. Think of it like playing poker; your opponent is going to be reading your face to try to help them predict your next move, even if only subconsciously. Play it cool and try to get a read on your opponent instead of worrying about yourself. Pay attention to things like how they react to the outcome of the first round and whether they are the type to make bold risks in the second round. Whether you stay or switch to another sign depends on your read on your opponent. Try to get a feel for details such as whether they're trying to flash signs to counter your most recent move or whether they keep flashing the same sign a lot and make your own judgement call on what to do next. Some players might use this mentality against you, but most random people aren't going to be thinking that deep into it. You're more likely to get a correct read on your opponent if it's someone you're more familiar with from spending personal time together, such as a close friend or relative.
3. Keep several different strategies in mind. If you have someone you play with often it will help you to be able to switch around your strategy to keep them guessing. For instance, flashing signs on a rotation, picking one sign in particular for each round that you will not play even in a tie and flipping between the other two until the round ends, picking a favorite sign and only using it, etc. Try to think up as many individual strategies as you can and keep them memorized so that you can switch it up on the fly and remain unpredictable.
This still won't be foolproof but keeping these three things in mind you will bolster your odds rather significantly. Almost always winning the first round in best two out of three against most opponents is already a big help on its own.
TLDR: Never lead with rock & throw randomly with zero thought.
Simple: watch Hunter x Hunter
😂
Or baki
FIRST COMES ROCK....
ROCK.... PAPER.....
ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or DBZ ginu force
@@davidutullakatos637 Zero rock paper scissors in baki.
I pick rock everytime. One game, my opponent also picked rock, and we both played rock for around 3 minutes.
Nobody won.
"Well, surely one of us will change.."
I never lost my entire life, that’s over 470 matches
Hilarious
@@earlysda I’m serious!
@@v_lad8559 Dude, that's crazy!
you are lying.
@@potatofarmer9488 say what u believe, I’m just lucky
ive noticed people usually emphasize the word in "rock, paper,scissors" that they will play.
they think after saying.
and then there's the two friends that keep getting the same one for 46 years
How to always win, for real:
Put you hand behind your head while you do scissors with your hand. Make sure the opponent sees it but pretend like you don't know that they see it. This will make the opponent believe that you are going to do scissors so they will do rock. Quickly switch to paper in the last second.
so... reverse cheating
To increase your chances even further start running around with scissors two weeks before the game begins. Break into your opponents house and whisper scissors into their ear while they sleep.
here is my strategy play 3 or more rounds and observe your opponent’s play style and adapt to how they play then you find a pattern to win the game
I switch between them all at random in a quick succession, and whichever form my hand makes is the one I pick (but I usually start with scissors and when playing normally, pick scissors 😂)
There have actually been at least two round robin competitions for computer programs to play umpteen rounds of rock paper scissors (they called it Ro-sham-bo). They were seeded with some programs that each used a simple strategy like "random" or "good ol' rock, nothing beats rock" or "60% rock 20% paper 20% scissors", and then people could submit programs that did whatever. The winners were basically the ones that could detect and exploit non-rsndom strategies the fastest, by calculating "okay which of these umpteen strategies would have worked best for me if I had played it from the start". (And one of those strategies was "random", to cut their losses when facing another good predictor.)
Literally 90% of my friends choose scissors, so i almost always win
Me playing rock rock rock rock when I’m supposed to be playing Rock Paper Scissors: I win 10 percent of the time I guess.
I never use paper at the start and I dont think anyone does
in my experience, no, this did not help, so this is my strategy!
you said most pick rock first, but in my experience with r, p, s, they usually pick scissors first. i think this is because the last word you hear is: scissors.
i always pick rock first, which gives me a over 70% win rate.
HOWEVER, if you can tell someone as won quite a lot, and has a smug look, roll paper to cancel their rock because they had the same idea.
in r, p, s, the goal most people have is to defend, rather than attack. if you pick to attack, you have the higher ground.
feel free to reply for questions, ive had people plan strategically in groups to take me down.. they dont get the better of me.
Havent watched yet, but I just pick whatever the oponents pick, and I start with rock.
I was a lead teacher in a 4K classroom, and I've played so many children, setting them up for a lifelong journey of sizing up the psychology of your opponent.
Another tip: if you believe your opponent is likely to attempt the classic "gun" strategy, use captain America's shield, gets'em everytime
My dad always called the game paper scissors rock. I wonder if playing against him I should choose scissors first because he thinks paper is the default?
Just remember there are scissors in this world capable of cutting rocks.
Because they're big scissors cutting tiny rocks, I highly doubt they can cut rocks that are bigger than them...
@@Cuestrupaster It's a baki reference
At first I thought this was going somewhere, and at the last second bro said "be random" thanks
I'm my amature opinion, which got me to the regional finals, waterfall is the strongest opening move. It gets inside your opponents head and they are confused as to why you keep throwing rock. After the fourth throw of rock, throw paper to let them know you know other postures, regardless what they've selected, they won't expect you to go back to rock, but they will have almost certainly chosen rock or paper, netting you a point or a draw. The trick is to get in the head of your opponent and lead the match so that they are trying to react to you, so they are unstable from the beginning. Play to your selection, not that of your opponent. The only reason I lost that final match was that I slipped up and played to my opponent.
Me: we have work to do.
Brain: no, this is important
There’s a rocks, paper, scissors tournament next week. Thank you 🙏
On the first round, boys always pick rock and girls always pick scissors. After the first round, it could go any which way, but you can win the first round 95% of the time!
There's actually more to it than that, you can prime your opponent by "Casually" reminding them of the rules beforehand, and gesturing which sign you "want" them to throw, for instance throwing scissors when saying "Scissors beats paper" primes their brain to throw scissors on their next hand. Been doing this for years when it comes to doing the so-called "undesirable" task of who goes and talks to the customer service reps in my friends group for years, and so far, never lost. >:D
surprisingly we all have been doing this since childhood without knowing that we had to do this
Watch your opponent’s hand. If it begins to open, play scissors. You’ll either win or tie. If it doesn’t, play paper. You’re welcome
One time I played chaos tag with my class, AND EVERYTIME WE HAD BOTH TAGGED EACHOTHER, I ALWAYS PLAYED ROCK BECAUSE THE IDIOTS THOUGHT I WOULD CHANGE…
My strat: More often than not, the tendency is that the first loser's SECOND move will be to beat the winner's FIRST move. So if Max's rock is beat by Jim's paper, then Max will likely throw scissors on round two. He's playing catch-up. But Jim knows this tendency, will _expect_ scissors, and throw rock to beat it...So Max should throw paper. Basically: If you win round one, throw the same hand on the following round. If you lose round one, throw the opposing hand on the following round.
I rarely lose Rock, Paper, Scissors this way.
Would have been more helpful 5-6 years ago
I feel like everyone throws scissors first. But then again everyone probably thinks that, which is why rock is the most common. Paper is slightly less common because you should throw it to beat the most common one.
So basically just throw hands randomly🫠
I feel like all this info is only helpful if you're playing multiple games back to back. Most of the time it's only played one single time to break a tie or see who goes first in something. So like... pick paper since most choose rock? lol
The strategy that I used to beat my brother every time when we did 3 rounds is I would do rock twice to make him think I was just going to do the same thing but then I’d switch to scissors on the last one (we didn’t play very often, only sometimes to decide on something so he didn’t remember but I also used this strategy with other people as well with decent success)
Step 1: Never lead with rock.
Step 2: Be random and never try to predict the person.
best way is always to know your opponent. I like sissors, so I will pick it more often when not playing psychology. If you're going to go random, might as well choose the option that appeals most to you so that you win in your mind for choosing the best option, instead of tie
Basically, the moral of the story is don't choose scissors first, and if you don't want to lose, be random, because that won't help you win, but it won't make you lose either
Good old rock. *Nothing* beats rock 👍
Poor predictable Bart.
5 year old me breaking the laws of physics to win a game of rock paper scissors: "oh yeah? well i chose [insert lethal weapon or large scale destructive force here]"
Used to LARP and we used RPS as our system of challenges. We would start bluffing by literally telling folks what were gonna throw at them. 9/10 they took the bait.
Against people that aren't interested in R.P.S. game theory, my go to strat is: Lead with paper. After that throw what would have lost to your opponent last round. That is: if they throw paper in round 2, I'll throw rock in round 3.
I honestly realized this by myself when I was 10 years old at school so I could win against my friends
All I got from this video is start with paper, and then pick randomly. Nice.
I ignore what I'm doing and focus on the other player. They'll often play the thing that beats the last thing they did. If they do paper, they'll likely do scissors next. If they do scissors, they'll likely do rock next
It’s definitely influenced by how high the stakes are. If you’re just playing for fun, people won’t think that hard and take risks, like playing rock 10 times in a row just to see how the other person reacts. But if it’s, say, for who has to do the dishes, it’s definitely going to be much more high-stakes, and people won’t take as many risks like that
Your opponent can't know what you'll play next if even you have no idea
Simple solution Rock, Paper, Scissor, Lizard, Spock
So after a thorugh strategy lesson like this, the answer is: Make random choices and don't bother thinking about what you're doing...
The true best stratagy is picking shoot "rock paper sissors, shoot" If you shoot your opponent they will be unable to use one of their 3 options and if they also pick shoot than you must shoot them before they shoot you
Why not always say shoot in this variation?
@@jimaylan6140 Because when your not in America there isn't a 100% chance somebody around will have a gun
@@Timeworks1 I thought we were talking about a game
@@jimaylan6140 ...what game?
say "im gonna choose rock" and then theyll think youre tryna get them to choose paper, so they think youre choosing scissors. then, they play rock. all you gotta do is play paper
Regular player - Go random?
Expert player - position your hand in a way to alternate between paper or scissors (or rock or.paper) as you keep an eye on their hand and do the play alternation before it is fully thrown allowing you to see and counter the enemy play before they played it!
The lore goes deep!
Random (if you could do it) doesn't make you win. It just makes you not lose.
When playing Rock, Paper, Scissors, I think choosing paper might be the best choice because most of the time, when your opponent tends to think of rock, you can just use paper to easily win against them
me, who usually starts with scissors, learning that most people start with rock: damn it...
How it started: How to win?
How its going: Aahh nvm just go with the flow
I absolutely second this octuple-bluffing 5D mind games view of rock paper scissors, every time I've tried analysing these bluffing cycles in my head I've gotten confused as well. The playstyle of acting completely random is certainly an interesting and weird one, but then the problem is, that makes your chance of victory a random number, probably a 50/50, instead of ''every time.''
I always show rock because i don't even want to open my hand up most of the time. And it works.
If your mind is fast enough you can just quickly see what your opponent puts out and change it.
Me who just lets the hand to the thinking: 👁👄👁
I've now became a professional RockPaperScissors Player.
My career is all thanks to you
Me belike looking my opponent hand what suppose to pick and
ME AGGRESSIVE FAST. If he chose rock I would be paper as fast I can change.
My theory was that as you have to say "rock paper scissors" people either keep the rock shape as you said, or go with the last item spoken out: scissors. So I typically start with rock, because I'd either win to scissors or draw by both going for rock 🤷🏻♂️ then the mind game begins 😂
I already do this (well, minus the tip about not playing rock first).
I really watched a 5 minute video that ends by telling you to adopt a “fuck it we ball” mindset
In short, the best strat is to be random. You'll outperform someone trying to use a strategy and predict you, but if they're also random, you'll get average results. So you'll do at least as good as average this way, whereas wheb both people are trying to predict the other, it's more likely one person will happen to outperform the other, and it's still based on chance
Heres how to win
Play shoot
Also super predicting people works in tag
heres an another way:
Never gonna give you up,
Never gonna let you down.
Will, I?
See the comments.
me and my friends added a new move called pencil, which changes the game to:
Scissors > Pencil
Pencil > Paper
Paper > Rock
Rock > Scissors
this did nothing in the long run.
"How to Win Every Time" or "How to improve your odds slightly"? Same, same... lol
If you want to settle some trivial or nontrivial :) matter using Rock, Paper, Scissors in a more random/controlled way, and there is at least one more person present, in addition to the two who are playing, both players can keep their eyes closed the whole time. The third person keeps score, gives countdowns for show of hands, etc - but doesn't announce who won each round, or tell which hand shapes were used. Only when either one of the players reaches the number of victorious rounds necessary to win the whole match, the third person announces the winner, and the players can open their eyes.