Rob, this was a great review to watch: this seems like such a nice unit, and it's well-priced on AMZN US with the discounts shown. I think rather than paying for the 1TB drive I'd take the 512GB and just replace it with a faster 1TB. My one concern is the power supply connector: I really really like the design, in that doesn't use up any of the back panel space. Having said that, there's no way in hell I'd buy this PC until I could buy a second PSU at the time of purchase, because of being dependent on Beelink providing a replacement (or, I'm guessing, trying to find a 3rd party version.) But all of that said, it's nice seeing a high-end unit with no major flaws.
I just ordered this today 10/24 from Amazon US $409 for the 16GB/1TB configuration. This was the cheapest I could find, and its "prime exclusive" price... they also had the SER7 on sale 32GB/1TB for $580 - this was the better deal.
I have to say, I checked their site and the one with the 780M looks even better. And there is an orange!!!!! version! I can't figure out why they don't let you get more than 32GB and 1TB (or less) for them. But still, if I had the money I would 110% buy the orange one. Like now. Looking forward to the next video.
@Robtech BTW, any chance you could do some video editing tests on it? I realize it's beyond the scope of the channel, but it would be a nice bit of info to have. A bonus if you will. No matter what, can't wait for the video!
Thanks you for reviewing these! I will look out for your review but I am looking to buy one this weekend should I wait to see your video? I’m in between the ser 6 max and the ser 7 max
Thanks for the review! After buying one of these myself and trying to use it for a few days .... * I think the USB sockets on the front are upside down and it feels a bit weird saying but they don't feel as nice when inserting things .... (it's not as easy to insert things?) perhaps they're a cheaper 'brand'!? * Over 4 days I've had one random hard lock up - not managed to repeat it or figure out why ... * The bottom m2 socket may not be gen4 speed - at least I don't think it is, if I'm reading the output of 'lspci -vv' correctly.
@Robtech Last year, I ordered an SER6, and had nothing but freeze-ups, blue screens, HDMI would not show the pc screen on my smart tv, etc. etc. It went back.. I spotted these Max models and almost jumped - Until I saw they're offering a SER7 Max.. I'm holding out for people to do a side by side review.. "I'll see how the SER7 performs soon." You. haha This is Great to hear, and I can't wait to hear/see what ya think! I do a lot of photo/video editing, and also just started learning 3D modeling.. I have two ASUS G752s built to the max, but, they're both worthless now.. Getting a mini again is going to be killer. Then I can use the Asuses for target practice. lol Great vid bro, and thank you for sharing! Sam -
I love your videos, I’m a console player(PS5) I want to stream to twitch through OBS I don’t plan on playing any games on the system, would this mini pc be able to accomplish the task???
Nice review, but just to correct you on the Apple thing, MacBooks run fine on USB-C power, you don't need to use the MagSafe adapter. Does this unit run from a USB-C monitor providing power?
Hey Rob. I used to be a desktop PC king but more and more my Mini at my OLED Living Room TV does the trick. I've got an older Beelink Mini there. This new one is the EXACT color of my last century styled TV stand I have. It's almost impossible not to update just for that -- because -- the mini would sort of disappear from view and hide in plainsight.
The 2. slot for a M.2 drive; that is for an 2280 side, correct? Thanks for a great review and overview. I just ordered one of those from Amazon and need to pickup a 2. drive to dual boot Linux alongside Windows.
500 eur in Amazon Germany. Can I use this PC for pure programming (not intense ) and daily use purpose and need not to upgrade or change for the next 3 years ?
I have a Ser 6 Pro, which is a much cheaper machine yet offers pretty much the same performance. If I was buying again, I wouldn't be spending £100 more for a Max model (even if it is new and shiny) because there are things like 7840HS minis out there. I know, sucker for big numbers, but that's why we're here, isn't it?
If I want a Windows OS on which to run non stop a small app and during day maybe a browser, should I get this? Or should I opt for a laptop, or try finding something from AWS?
I bought this mini. My only complaint is the thermals and there isn't a way that I see to manage the fan curve. Oh, but I guess not the exact same model. Mine does not have the magnetic connection
hey all, does anybody use one of these for streaming via OBS, i love the idea of the small form factor rather than a laptop on my booth but unsure what to look for for streaming audio and visuals and if specs meet requirements
Don’t really see a problem with the magnetic connector. If the PSU dies you probably can just cut the cable and connect a new one to the connector. Don’t like that it is a Zen3 cpu though, this single core performance is not acceptable in late 2023.
when doing the gaming comparison, the 5800H was having less fps, but the % of cpu was also lower. Any chance we can modify something to use more % and get more fps?
Glad you moved on from the Intel N's. Those low power machines sound very nice on paper, but as you showed those are low performance machines. I'm actually wondering whether those Intel N's actually sip less power for my usual daily usage (i.e. connecting an HM80 with a 4800U with two 4K screens remotely to the office; the combo consumes about 70W for the three of them, and just above idle (10-15W) for the HM80 ). For the SER6 Max, I would add max noise levels to the cons list, although it remains to be seen how often one hits those max sound levels. That said, once you have not heard a M1 mini running full throttle you start adoring the sound of silence! Do you have the possibility to test the reach of Wifi and Bluetooth, or provide an indication? I noticed that this is quite poor for the mini's I possess.
Except those Intel N processors are not that low power after all. They need 30 Wats to use their full potential. Meanwhile I use Ryzen 5500U that has a 25W long-term power limit...
@@Robtech PL1 TDP for Ryzen U chips is up to 25W. Yes they can boost higher for a short while, but I'm talking about sustained performance. And having more cores @ lower frequency is more power efficient than less cores @ higher clock.
@@kmieciu4everEach processor is built to deliver optimal performance at a certain power level, given a certain cost. The N-series are built to be most efficient at 6-15W, increasing power beyond that doesn't net as much benefit. And they're cheap as chips. They're for normal people who just need to browse the web, watch some movies, or check their bank account. For their given market, they're amazing CPU's.
I don't understand your comparisons. Why would you be comparing this model against the um773 when a more valuable and direct comparison would be against the ser6 pro and the geekom as6. Not very helpful.
I haven't reviewed the SER6 Pro 7735HS, nor the GEEKOM AS6. Happy for you to buy them for me, though. Paypal link in the video description. Remember to also include fees and shipping.
You'd need a stand of some sort to not block anything. Otherwise, you'll be blocking one side of vents which are on both sides. Still would function fine, just cooling would be slightly diminished.
Make sure there are no background tasks going on during the test. Clean windows start without other apps present. I have the Internet off as well as something like Windows update can start downloading during the test.
I used to use an ASRock Deskmini X300 with a Noctua L9a cooler. That was plenty powerful and quiet, so I sometimes played some older game titles on it as well. But since I no longer have time for that, I just use the Neosmay AC8-N (which I've reviewed) as a webbrowsing/office PC. Video production work is done on the desktop since every minute I can shave off is worth it.
@@Robtech Thanks for the detailed reply! The Mele Quieter 3C with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD is on offer in the EU for 288 Euros at the moment. That might do the job just as well.
Did you check the analogue sound from front and rear port? Its soooo weak like none existent. already tried on win 11 and 10 with both speaker and headphones. Only hdmi pass through works.
@@Robtech Found it!!!!! I am really wondering why it played on you though. Only after running from dos in admin mode the .bat file of the realtek alc897 driver it worked and restarted. It is like using realtek for analogue and amd drivers for digitral (hdmi / bluetooth). Do you have a realtek line in your device maanger under audio controllers? Else how the heck does it play to you I can t understand.
Hi Rob Thanks for the review. I am looking for 3 mini pcs to create a ceph server cluster abd it requires very fast networking. Would be great if your channel could also share for this niche too. Any chance you could test networking through usb 4 on two of these beelink boxes? Cheers!
Send me one of your mini pcs. You dont need all of those. Let me help you with your hoarding problem. I got you fam 🙌
He wants to sell them probably lol
Impressive, would be nice to see these powered over a usb-c adaptor someday instead of proprietary shizzle my dizzle.
Yep, hopefully the new USB PD spec is released on the market soon..... finally allowing more than 100W of power delivery.
That quick cat scene at the Apple mention gave me a good chuckle lol
I have this one. And so good for programming thing with 32GB RAM.
Rob, this was a great review to watch: this seems like such a nice unit, and it's well-priced on AMZN US with the discounts shown. I think rather than paying for the 1TB drive I'd take the 512GB and just replace it with a faster 1TB. My one concern is the power supply connector: I really really like the design, in that doesn't use up any of the back panel space. Having said that, there's no way in hell I'd buy this PC until I could buy a second PSU at the time of purchase, because of being dependent on Beelink providing a replacement (or, I'm guessing, trying to find a 3rd party version.) But all of that said, it's nice seeing a high-end unit with no major flaws.
Yeah, just checked the prices on US Amazon after. So much better than the rest of the world. Proprietary tech sucks.
Apparently, im told you can use the USB-C to power it as well using the USB-C port.
@@Robtechmaybe usb-c to power it?
Yeah you can power it with a USB C. BUt i 'think" you can't get to higher performance without the wall plug.@@Cykotr0n
Thanks! Looking forward to the SER7 review. Hopefully it's quieter...
I just ordered this today 10/24 from Amazon US $409 for the 16GB/1TB configuration. This was the cheapest I could find, and its "prime exclusive" price... they also had the SER7 on sale 32GB/1TB for $580 - this was the better deal.
Upgrade the ram (or not) $409 is an amazing deal for this. (i am not paid for this btw lol)
I have to say, I checked their site and the one with the 780M looks even better. And there is an orange!!!!! version!
I can't figure out why they don't let you get more than 32GB and 1TB (or less) for them.
But still, if I had the money I would 110% buy the orange one. Like now.
Looking forward to the next video.
I unboxed it. I was sent silver 😆
@Robtech not orange, but for free I would take it too 😜
@Robtech BTW, any chance you could do some video editing tests on it? I realize it's beyond the scope of the channel, but it would be a nice bit of info to have. A bonus if you will. No matter what, can't wait for the video!
Sure, I can check out my 4K video project
@@Robtech Thanks man!
Cant decide between the um790 or beelink ser 6 max
Curious to see this matched up again the SER7 in both performance and noise.
ye this one is old already
Soon™
Thanks you for reviewing these! I will look out for your review but I am looking to buy one this weekend should I wait to see your video? I’m in between the ser 6 max and the ser 7 max
It'll likely be sometime late next week. I'm going to check out how much extra performance the SER7 provides for the extra dollars.
@@Robtech should be decent bump, 7735 is just rebranded 6th gen chip
Thanks for the review!
After buying one of these myself and trying to use it for a few days ....
* I think the USB sockets on the front are upside down and it feels a bit weird saying but they don't feel as nice when inserting things .... (it's not as easy to insert things?) perhaps they're a cheaper 'brand'!?
* Over 4 days I've had one random hard lock up - not managed to repeat it or figure out why ...
* The bottom m2 socket may not be gen4 speed - at least I don't think it is, if I'm reading the output of 'lspci -vv' correctly.
Reversed USB ports on mini PCs are pretty common. Depends how they're placed on the board.
Very nice premium NUC.
@Robtech Last year, I ordered an SER6, and had nothing but freeze-ups, blue screens,
HDMI would not show the pc screen on my smart tv, etc. etc. It went back..
I spotted these Max models and almost jumped - Until I saw they're offering a SER7 Max..
I'm holding out for people to do a side by side review..
"I'll see how the SER7 performs soon." You. haha
This is Great to hear, and I can't wait to hear/see what ya think!
I do a lot of photo/video editing, and also just started learning 3D modeling..
I have two ASUS G752s built to the max, but, they're both worthless now..
Getting a mini again is going to be killer. Then I can use the Asuses for target practice. lol
Great vid bro, and thank you for sharing!
Sam -
Here it is ua-cam.com/video/OMhJZ_Acf1Y/v-deo.html
I love your videos, I’m a console player(PS5) I want to stream to twitch through OBS I don’t plan on playing any games on the system, would this mini pc be able to accomplish the task???
Nice review, but just to correct you on the Apple thing, MacBooks run fine on USB-C power, you don't need to use the MagSafe adapter. Does this unit run from a USB-C monitor providing power?
Nice! Will this mini pc support 6400mhz ram? Ot at least OC the included ram? Plan to add also 4tb for multimedia use.
I haven't tried a 5600 kit, but I'd say no based on previous experience. Only the HX CPUs so far have supported any type of memory overclocking.
Hey Rob. I used to be a desktop PC king but more and more my Mini at my OLED Living Room TV does the trick. I've got an older Beelink Mini there. This new one is the EXACT color of my last century styled TV stand I have. It's almost impossible not to update just for that -- because -- the mini would sort of disappear from view and hide in plainsight.
Nice, it'll camouflage right in 😆
The 2. slot for a M.2 drive; that is for an 2280 side, correct?
Thanks for a great review and overview. I just ordered one of those from Amazon and need to pickup a 2. drive to dual boot Linux alongside Windows.
That's correct, yep!
How well would this run wow?
It will run Wow no problem
You're my favorite tech reviewer bro 👍🏻
500 eur in Amazon Germany. Can I use this PC for pure programming (not intense ) and daily use purpose and need not to upgrade or change for the next 3 years ?
Yeah, plenty powerful for that.
Yes - I'm doing that right now ...
Great review and content :)
I have a Ser 6 Pro, which is a much cheaper machine yet offers pretty much the same performance. If I was buying again, I wouldn't be spending £100 more for a Max model (even if it is new and shiny) because there are things like 7840HS minis out there. I know, sucker for big numbers, but that's why we're here, isn't it?
I'll see how the SER7 performs soon.
Outstanding price for it given what it can do
i have one. Love it. sick vid brev i 2nd this.
If I want a Windows OS on which to run non stop a small app and during day maybe a browser, should I get this?
Or should I opt for a laptop, or try finding something from AWS?
The magnetic plug doesn't seem like a great idea in any respect, and anything proprietary should be avoided.
I bought this mini. My only complaint is the thermals and there isn't a way that I see to manage the fan curve. Oh, but I guess not the exact same model. Mine does not have the magnetic connection
New cooler on this one
Yeah, sad trombone sound :( but I'm still pretty happy. I did some work to reduce the idle temp.
Didn't get the Pro so I can't see the difference between the two sadly
Thermal pad thickness mm on bottom cover ? 2.0 or 3.0 mm?
Would your recommend, in case of installing a second nvme m2 ssd, to use a heatsink for it?
I'd check temps first if the NVME drive has temp sensors. If it's not thermal throttling while you're using it you should be okay.
Loved it.
hey all, does anybody use one of these for streaming via OBS, i love the idea of the small form factor rather than a laptop on my booth but unsure what to look for for streaming audio and visuals and if specs meet requirements
If the beelink pc will be replaced with hard disk is the pre installed windows 11 is transferable ?
Bought this and tried to play 'Outer World' - it was so bad, I was getting motion sickness..
What is the differences between GTR 6 and the SER 6 pro. In the uk the gtr 6 is down to 490 and pro is 427
Performance wise they're pretty similar. But I can't tell you noise levels or anything else as I didn't review the GTR6.
Don’t really see a problem with the magnetic connector. If the PSU dies you probably can just cut the cable and connect a new one to the connector.
Don’t like that it is a Zen3 cpu though, this single core performance is not acceptable in late 2023.
Which HDMI cable types are included with the unit as accessories? HDMI 1.4, 2.0 or 2.1?
4K60Hz is the max my monitor supports, so couldn't test higher.
Proprietary charger AND no Australia plug - double bad!
Australian plug is provided if bought on Amazon AU. I received an import sample
Ah, thanks! Good to know!I only looked on Aliexpress! @@Robtech
No worries
when doing the gaming comparison, the 5800H was having less fps, but the % of cpu was also lower. Any chance we can modify something to use more % and get more fps?
No, the integrated graphics is holding it back.
Glad you moved on from the Intel N's. Those low power machines sound very nice on paper, but as you showed those are low performance machines. I'm actually wondering whether those Intel N's actually sip less power for my usual daily usage (i.e. connecting an HM80 with a 4800U with two 4K screens remotely to the office; the combo consumes about 70W for the three of them, and just above idle (10-15W) for the HM80 ).
For the SER6 Max, I would add max noise levels to the cons list, although it remains to be seen how often one hits those max sound levels. That said, once you have not heard a M1 mini running full throttle you start adoring the sound of silence!
Do you have the possibility to test the reach of Wifi and Bluetooth, or provide an indication? I noticed that this is quite poor for the mini's I possess.
Except those Intel N processors are not that low power after all. They need 30 Wats to use their full potential. Meanwhile I use Ryzen 5500U that has a 25W long-term power limit...
Still got N units in the pipeline 🤣
Last 5500U I reviewed peaked at 56W or so. The N chips are using almost half the power with much less performance.
@@Robtech PL1 TDP for Ryzen U chips is up to 25W. Yes they can boost higher for a short while, but I'm talking about sustained performance. And having more cores @ lower frequency is more power efficient than less cores @ higher clock.
@@kmieciu4everEach processor is built to deliver optimal performance at a certain power level, given a certain cost. The N-series are built to be most efficient at 6-15W, increasing power beyond that doesn't net as much benefit. And they're cheap as chips.
They're for normal people who just need to browse the web, watch some movies, or check their bank account. For their given market, they're amazing CPU's.
I don't understand your comparisons. Why would you be comparing this model against the um773 when a more valuable and direct comparison would be against the ser6 pro and the geekom as6. Not very helpful.
I haven't reviewed the SER6 Pro 7735HS, nor the GEEKOM AS6. Happy for you to buy them for me, though. Paypal link in the video description. Remember to also include fees and shipping.
Another question, can it stay vertical on the desk without blocking any vents?
You'd need a stand of some sort to not block anything. Otherwise, you'll be blocking one side of vents which are on both sides. Still would function fine, just cooling would be slightly diminished.
So, is this version with the Ryzen 7 better than the one with the Ryzen 9 6800HX (at a cheaper price)?
Haven't tested that one, but a 6800HX performs very similarly.
i am planning to make this mini-pc as a home development server and to work 24/7 is it okay with this type of machine?
Should be fine. It's plenty powerful. Go with 32GB RAM.
I don’t know why, but the same computer gave me only 12,162 in Cinebench p23
Make sure there are no background tasks going on during the test. Clean windows start without other apps present. I have the Internet off as well as something like Windows update can start downloading during the test.
@@Robtech My mistake! Rechecked with a clean system - 13 350 :)
Which one do you recommend me to buy the ser6 max or ser6 pro?
I haven't reviewed the Pro sorry
Im sorry i dont do fan noise
Neither, that's why I have a fanless mini PC.
@@Robtech Which one and what do you do with it? Mainly office and light multimedia work? If that's the case, it's something I want to look into. 👍
I used to use an ASRock Deskmini X300 with a Noctua L9a cooler. That was plenty powerful and quiet, so I sometimes played some older game titles on it as well. But since I no longer have time for that, I just use the Neosmay AC8-N (which I've reviewed) as a webbrowsing/office PC. Video production work is done on the desktop since every minute I can shave off is worth it.
@@Robtech Id like one, but cant find a seller here in the uk unfortunately
@@Robtech Thanks for the detailed reply! The Mele Quieter 3C with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD is on offer in the EU for 288 Euros at the moment. That might do the job just as well.
Getting mixed signals. Will this be able to play street fighter 6 online?
It says a GTX 1060 or RX580 is the requirement for SF6. This is below that.
Did you check the analogue sound from front and rear port? Its soooo weak like none existent. already tried on win 11 and 10 with both speaker and headphones. Only hdmi pass through works.
I just checked it against the front panel analogue port on my desktop PC now, and volume was the same between both.
@@Robtech you used on both beelink and your desktop pc the analogue ports you mean. Because toy mention only the port of your pc and not bellink.
Yes "it" meaning the Beelink Mini PC.
@@Robtech Found it!!!!! I am really wondering why it played on you though. Only after running from dos in admin mode the .bat file of the realtek alc897 driver it worked and restarted. It is like using realtek for analogue and amd drivers for digitral (hdmi / bluetooth).
Do you have a realtek line in your device maanger under audio controllers? Else how the heck does it play to you I can t understand.
"Realtek Audio" in device manager
Hi Rob
Thanks for the review.
I am looking for 3 mini pcs to create a ceph server cluster abd it requires very fast networking.
Would be great if your channel could also share for this niche too.
Any chance you could test networking through usb 4 on two of these beelink boxes?
Cheers!
Networking isn't something I'm interested in, and these reviews already take up too much time as it is, so I don't plan to expand further.
Any screwdriver recommendations to open?
I mostly use a screwdriver set or screwdriver repair kit. The repair kit has many different heads.
Thanks
I wish these Mini PCs had better iGPUs. They have beefy CPUs coupled with low performance video cards. 😞😞
SER7 will be about the best that's available integrated wise. Not many options with mobile discrete graphics unfortunately.
SER means E-waste in Finland.
Oh no, not the bees(link) not the bees
emulator , Emulation : 👍🏽 .
Thanks, but i didnt it to be so sexual…
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congrats, morrron of the day.
I don't like this design and color.
Well, there's another three colours to choose from once they're released. The SER7 I'm getting is grey, which looks nicer.
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