The way men don't even worry about being gracious or gentle in their proposal rejections ☹️ But yeah. If he's not your husband, don't live with him. Don't give him children. Don't do domestic labor for him. Don't give him wife benefits.
Well if she’s not showing him she’s worthy of being a wife then while they’re still in boyfriend/girlfriend stage, he shouldn’t be doing husband duties. Now see where that relationship goes after your advice.
Why I feel he has promised to marry her from time, knowing damn well he had no intention of marrying her? . It is almost like he strung her along, until HE is ready for the woman he wants to marry. He rather have a woman than none at all.10 years??! He is has no intention of settling down with her. She is a place holder, sad she can’t see that. 😔
Well, dignity can carry a cost. Sometimes financial. Recently, a friend disrespected me and instead of staying with her for free, I paid for a hotel, rather than stay with her on her terms. And I'm not well off.
I'm baffled at how so many have a negative opinion on women proposing. Why is it not dignified of me to propose? Idk maybe it's a cultural thing.. I think they sound insane
@@Samson16436 Because if a man wants to marry you, he will ask you himself. If you want to get married, tell him and give him a chance to propose. If he doesn't do it, you have your answer.
Ladies, don't propose to a man. Don't give him a baby until he gives you a house, a car, a fully funded retirement account, and a RING. They want trad? Let's give 'em trad, ladies, lol! Let's GOOOOOO!! 😂😂😂 edit: honestly, though, I think the reason men should propose is because on the whole, more often than not, more or less, men benefit from marriage more than women do. Men gain a housekeeper, a childcare provider, a cook, a s3x partner, etc etc etc, while women often give up their careers, freedom, and peace in order to be married. With few exceptions, women are often worse off for being married than if they had stayed free and single. That is why even though I'm feminist, the marriage proposal thing is just the one thing I think is foolish for women to pursue. Let a man prove his worth to you, since women are more at risk in relationships than men are (most often). Let him go out on the limb to get the benefits of marriage. Until then, just live your life and develop your own wellbeing. Marrying someone who doesn't want to marry you is asking for misery.
I don't even show interest first because it's never worked out for me to. And a lot of men will pretend to like you back so they can get sex or use you.
My mother gave an ultimatum to the man she loved in the 70s. He never engaged her in the time specified so she left. Later on she met my dad (in a rebound relationship) and (unhappily) gave birth to me. She eventually returned to the original guy and over the years he NEVER married her. She would go back and forth to him (he never left his place of birth..she kept running after him). He wasted her time, off and on, for decades! Ladies, if he wont marry you, its ok. Leave with your pride in tact!
I had a colleague recount her proposal. It went something like this. She and her (now) husband had been dating around 1 year and half. He wasn't moving in the direction she thought the relationship should have been going. So, she politely told him that perhaps, since marriage was not on the plate, they should move on. Shortly thereafter, old boy, presented her, not only with an engagement ring, but told her to start planning the wedding. She told me it wasn't a threat to make him move. It was an acknowledgement that she was moving on.
@@LS-bb9qh Thanks for the comment from the both of you. I see it as her being practical by setting boundaries. She knew exactly the direction in which she was heading and respectfully communicated that although it was assumed dating would lead to marriage, she wasn't waiting around. Far from having rose colored glasses about marriage, she's part of a 28-year partnership, with successful sons. I firmly believe men have a modus operandi for involvement with women. She just happens to have been emotionally intelligent in partnering.
On our 2nd date I made it clear that my partner had 1 year to date and figure out if he wanted to have a marriage and life with me otherwise its been fun, and I am out. We didn't have that conversation ever again. I said what I needed to say about it. My husband proposed 8 months in, and we've been married for 2 years and looking forward to many more😊
When sisterhood is strengthened it will allow more space for women to decenter men. Right now there is a trend of shaming other women for their poor choices and that’s not going to work. This is discussion and critique. That’s fine. But when women are mistreated, other women are blaming them for it.
There’s nothing more romantic and more affirming of your place in a man’s life than him proposing. You want someone who is enthusiastic about spending their life with you. My husband proposed less than a year in but he was talking marriage within months of our dating, he knew! Seven years of marriage later and my only regret is I didn’t marry him even sooner😊. We are soulmates, everyone is different, but I wouldn’t have waited longer than 18 months for a ring/marriage. I was 32 and he was 33, we knew what we wanted and needed in a partner.
I'm old. I do not understand why anyone would think a public proposal is a good idea. To me, it's just such a personal thing, whether the answer is yes, no, or maybe, this kind of big decision needs to be a private matter between the two people involved. Not the kids, not the parents, not the siblings, nobody else.
One of my female cousins on Facebook, in front of friends and family. I could tell he didn't know what to say, but he said yes! But, after that I never saw that guy with her again! Wow
The reason why it’s still “super cringey” in the age of feminism, is because of the mens’ reactions. They never like or appreciate it💁🏽♀️READ THE ROOM‼️
Chile... my (now ex) was NOT doing what he needed to do to help save our relationship from the things HES done to destroy it. I left on New years this year. Men know. I wasnt going to look back and keep doing all the work
My favorite part of this video is the women who included “I would rather…” in their responses. I liked the lady who said “I would rather fly to the moon… on a kite.”😂😂
23:10 This woman is the only other woman who has said out loud what I've always believed. It's MEN who are submissive to women. Not the other way around. That's why he gets down on his knee to ask for your hand in marriage. Note: he doesn't DEMAND your hand, he doesn't CLAIM your hand, he ASKS for it. Would he need to ask if he were the one in charge?? A marriage proposal is a man formally asking to serve you and provide for you - if you ALLOW him to. Because men want and need women more than we want and need them. He needs to convince you to accept him. Because historically, men understood how valuable our sexuality and reproductive abilities are. Ladies, never forget your power.
I don't think it's embarrassing in the slightest. Clips in this video are embarrassing to watch because of the men's reaction. Women proposing in itself is beautiful, just as when a man does. People in these comments are trippin
@@Samson16436I don't personally agree I saw one where his pregnant girlfriend proposed it made me cringe so bad 😭 something about seeing a visible far along pregnant woman get down on her knees because he didn't ask so she feels like she has too doesn't sit right with me but too each their own 😅
It may seem unromantic to some, but me and my spouse actually TALKED about how we wanted things to go down. Neither one of us wanted to go forward unless we were absolutely sure we weren't putting the other on the spot. We wanted to know that we both wanted to get married before setting up something like that in front of family and friends. It may take out the element of surprise, but sometimes that is a good thing.
If he haven’t proposed or asked you to marry him that means he don’t want to marry you. The truth would be in women’s face and they would just ignore it.
I think women proposing to men may be more common in the working class or lower class than middle and upper class groups. Men who don't make enough money to support a family are least likely to want marriage but, still want to have romantic relationships and children.
I think it’s more common for working, lower, and middle class women to offer ultimatums, but as far as who proposes more it’s the younger generation across the board.
A man not having enough money is not natural. Wanting a relationship and procreation is natural. Back in the day even slaves were having sex and in relationships procreating. So what’s natural to humans should stop unless you can afford it?
The real temptation is not proposing; it’s avoiding the urge to ask a man for his number, for a date or to be his girlfriend. I still regret having my first time and being intimate with a guy who liked me enough to date me but not be his girlfriend. I’m just glad I had enough self respect to block and delete after he said he wanted to keep going out with me as “friends”. I only wasted 2 months, thank goodness.
I tink asking for his number is not as bad , but asking him to marry yeh that's just on an hole diferent level , but asking if he wants to grab a coffe won't destroy you
I hate when people use a skewed view of feminism as an excuse to propose to a man. It has nothing to do with misogyny. Statistically a woman has a lot more to lose in a relationship and that's with a man who wants you. Imagine what you'd go through in a marriage with a man who resents you because he feels like you pressured him to marry you. 🤨
If he does not want to be married, it is his responsibility to be honest and say no. Woman can feel pressured into marriage, too (Look at how manipulative heteronormative public proposals can be), and men can feel pressured to propose. All of this has nothing to do with the fact that it was the woman proposing. Besides, a marriage proposal should never be a complete suprise regardless which gender proposes. The partners should always have had a candid conversation about whether marriage is their end goal in dating, whether they feel ready for it and whether they want a possible proposal to be public or private. The decision should be made before the proposal occurs. You would never have to worry about that man having married you out of pressure if you had honest conversations like this. And if it turnes out you have different goals than be honest to each other and part ways.
Then you chose the wrong man. I'm baffled by these comments. Why is he the only one that gets to propose in a confession of commitment and love? Why can't I do that?
I think there is a huge difference between proposing to a man in private and infront of other people. Same as if it would be a man proposing, don't push people! Btw, I come to a country where women often propose to the man and it is not seen as different. In my country people do not always get married but still live together as a comitted couple their whole lives. Commitment is the key, not a marriage certificate.
19:00 How many of these videos have we seen where the guy looks *happy* to be proposed to? None. They always look like they are being dragged to their execution and they usually say no. So the reason we find it cringy is because we know these women knew these men did not want to marry them and they tried to publicly force the man's hand. That's desperate and cringy. When men publicly propose to women they know don't want to marry them, that also looks desperate and cringy.
I have observed that when women propose to men it is always in a situation where they put them in a surprise position to be asked a question on the spot. It is never a good decision for a woman to propose to a man ever. Allow a man to be a man and ask you for your hand in marriage. The way that the relationship starts is sadly how it will end.
I think aside from men not really wanting to marry the woman, most men find it emasculating & embarrassing for his woman to go down on one knee to propose to him, because traditionally it's the men who does that, not women.
Ladies your time is the most valuable more than money. Our time is more important than a man. A man knows he wants to married you after 6 months. Don’t chase the more you ask the more you demand the less you get! Men only understand action. Walk away
I proposed to my husband. I’m 50, from the uk, he’s from Arizona. He moved here to be with me. To stay, the easiest way was for us to get married. I’ve been proposed to over 40 times in my life- I’m SE Asian and have had requests since the age of 11. Each time I said no. My expartner proposed when I was 23 but made me pay for it. I decided I didn’t want to ever get married very early on. But here, for the first time it felt right. Him being a grown arsed man said yes straight away. No hate. He still talks about how he loved that I did. It’s not perfect but it works for me. ❤😂❤ Note: it wasn’t in public 🤮🤮🤮 there is no video 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ it was an intimate moment between the two of us
You the only sane person here. I'm honestly sick by the reactions in these comments. If I confess my love and commitment by proposing I have no dignity?? Wth is wrong with these people
If I had a daughter I would tell her that between the ages of 18 and 25 three years is long enough. If he’s not talking about marriage by then it’s time to move on. Over age 25 I would tell her that if he isn’t talking about marriage after 1 year then it’s time to move on. Heed this advice as it was learned through trial and error.
Men do not become real marriage material before age 30 (and I don´t care about a few rare exceptions amongst millions and billions). Around age 30 is when you can start applying the 1 - 3 year ultimatum with them.
When you have to go over boundaries, know that that man does not want you. But you just presented yourself as a door-mat and that it a proposal he just can not turn down!
Cause if he says no, then he will lose her. Men may not like the woman he is with but they love the benefits. Until they find a woman they want who wants them and she can do it all for him, he will leave. Until then most men will stay. 🤦🏽
@@sg5720spot on, it's only about the benefits they are getting, it's way too comfy to leave for most of them but they cheatin on these women with somebody else most of the time, it's ridiculous
At some point, women need to realize that if you spend 10 years with a man who shows no interest in tying the knot when that's what you want, it's not that he's wasted your time, its that you've decided to waste that time on someone who doesn't care about your future together. Sunk cost is a terrible fallacy to fall into, so ladies please respect your time more and cut the dead weight.
I'd rather die than ask a man on a date and certainly to get married. Jodie Turner-smith asked and now they are divorced and a young child is in the middle of that nonsense
What was even worse was that she proudly talked about them starting out as a one night stand, and then continuing as f*** buddies, until she pushed the issue of a relationship and marriage. Like him initially just picking her as his hEaUx for a night and her going for that was a flex to share on TV with a beaming smile!
5:50 i get why you’d blame the friend but tbh - that’s how you lose “friends”. i spoke up about an ex friends bf once - and she ended up calling me “mean” and a “know it all” 🤷🏻♀️ i guess in that sense it’s a good way to know if your “friends is a pick me.
Some people be proposing in public knowing damn well their partner would have never agreed if they had done so more privately. Public proposals, whether man or women, is manipulation unless they talked and agreed to it beforehand
Propose if it it gets you ultimately to the end point of this relationship faster. Mostly, you don’t want to waste any more time than you already have on him. Dump him and move on. Sitting around, waiting for men to ask you to marry them because of internalized patriarchy is pasé. I am and shall remain the director of my destiny. Yes to the lady in the blue shirt.
I think it's okay to let your partner know that you're expecting marriage, if he doesn't take the hint. But orchestrating a marriage proposal, God no! That video of the girl on her knees, in front of the man's family. It was so painful to watch. Are there engagement rings for men anyway?
Someone should tell all of those people that love is not magic, but the will to love someone no matter what and when you get married in a church God gives you a strength to do that.
If you've talked about it and are on the same page. I dont think there is anything wrong with a women proposing. The singer Pink proposed to her husband and they're still together. I think discounting this practice just shows how much we still need to do in regard to changing negative societal norms that hurt women. Why are we still okay with waiting for a man to choose us.
23:38 also, asking a guy out first - if he’s not in pursuit mode, he never will be, even if he agrees to date you for sexual access, financial resources, etc. You’ll always wonder if he’s really there because he wanted you. I never swipe right on any guy even if I’m attracted to them, unless they have swiped right on me first.
I think you can show interest but the man has to ask you out and chase you I had success by this strategy of mine I do show interest for men who I like if he's interested they often chase me if I see a man cold and he's not reciprocating I drop him but I can NEVER imagine asking a man out let alone propose 🥴
When women propose to men, it shiws me that they're not ready for marriage or don't know what marriage is really about. Marriage is WORK with the right partner, so you definitely don't want the wrong one, and if he didn't initiate it, he probably won't be the right one. When you lead with the desperation to ask a man to choose you, instead of allowing him to choose you on his own, you will be asking him to choose you for the duration of the marriage because he won't see the marriage as one of his priorities, but a favor he did you.
To the lady in blue: It has nothing to do with misogyny, at least not my reasons. Nene Leakes said it best when she said “a man needs to like you a little bit more than you like them.” Men are largely disinterested in relationships and are not wholeheartedly invested in them. They don’t do the kind of mental or emotional lifting women do to maintain them. The only men who actually do this are those who are emotionally mature AND who are crazy about you and see you as a prize, aka, “like you a little more than you like them.” So to have to propose to a man just makes it clear that he is in the former group of men who are largely disinterested, accustomed to not doing the mental or emotional lifting, and who also do not see you as a prize. You are going to propose to someone who is just with you for lack of a good enough reason not to be? Another point is that the woman in red saying she was “here for” women proposing just shows how unhealthy her relationship is. She said out of her mouth she would but her man would not like it. You know this, yet you’re going to do something you know he wouldn’t like? If it was the other way around, and a man said he was going to propose to his girlfriend on the Jumbotron at a basketball game but that he knew she wouldn’t like it, would you say that man have a crap about her or the proposal?
This trend seems to be (at least to me) a result of men being mommied. I feel like this is the next step. Theyre so incompetent, and just need everything done for them besides working, that they cant even propose now and just waiting for the woman to do it. And the sad thing is that they wont even be happy bout it but it'll be easy and done for them. Just livin on ez mode where these women just do everything for them and set up their family with no participation from the men.
I’ve been proposed to three times. All of them happened within the first year. I said no and said from the beginning that I don’t want marriage. But the point is it was all a year in (I personally think that’s waaaaayyyyy too soon to propose but obviously that’s because marriage scares the shit out of me 😅😅)
He owes you dowry too! I’m an African woman. African men know both sides of our families are involved in courtship. So the men don’t play with you or waste your precious time because they fear your father and uncles. I hate this for her. I wish I was there to read him for filth in front of his and her entire family. Learn the culture, so they can’t play with you. Demand respect.
@@Gem-n-life lol this reminds me how my mom dated man who made her buy her own birthday gift. At this point woman is fooling herself about being loved and wanted by that man, and often that man is not even worth it but this all is done for outdated societal expectations where single woman is seen as unwanted, lesser, second class so she feels she needs to work hard, sacrifice herself, embarrass herself just to keep man. When she will learn to love herself without validation from society and men then she will find someone who will see value in her, she can't expect it to happen now when she doesn't even see value in herself.
If a woman puts in effort and plans a bunch of romantic stuff, takes her partner's feelings into account, asks what her partner thinks about being proposed to by a woman and what kind of things he likes it should be no problem. For women who daydream about relationships and big milestones such as engagements and marriage. They should be encouraged to take more control in the process to prevent disappointment. So women proposing should become normalized. At this point in society we have gained more opportunities to become mens' financial, political, legal, and social equals than ever before. So if thats the case we can go around hubbying men up no problem. This also takes the pressure off men from having to navigate whether they should still conform to traditional cultural norms in a modern society. One example being whether to ask a woman's father for her hand in marriage or whether to just propose to her. Whether to buy her the most expensive rock or to go ring shopping for both rings together. At the end of the day marriage is a team sport so decisions, financial costs, and plans should be expected of both parties more in a serious relationship leading towards that.
These are the worst case scenarios. I would like to see the cases where they are together 2-3 years and they are both happy with the woman proposing and the man gleefully accepting. No pressure, no manipulation, just two people who are comfortable with their dynamic.
100% it doesn't matter which gender proposes first. If both people are on the same page about marriage and respect each other, the marriage will work out.
@@juned1719 It does exist but is not publicized mostly due to stigma. The same reason why people in healthy marriages are mostly quiet- they don't want people plotting on their demise. Also negative stories always get more airtime.
@@juned1719 It does exist, but it’s not the norm, and unfortunately this dynamic has a lot of misses than it does hits. It takes a special man to accept his partner proposing, making more money, having a higher sex drive, etc. than him.
I would NEVER..... EVERRRR..... PROPOSE to a BOY (Real MEN propose to the women they love) BOYS keep you in Limbo. Women should be mindful of their decisions regarding starting a family before marriage if they seek a committed partnership. It is essential for women to take responsibility for setting clear expectations and boundaries, including a personal timeline for leaving if a proposal does not come within a reasonable period. A woman's ability to walk away from an uncommitted relationship should be developed from experiences in dating, like recognizing red flags. Women should focus on cultivating self-worth, inner strength, and a strong sense of personal values. When these qualities are in place, a man is more likely to commit without hesitation. The issue is not solely with men-women play a key role in shaping the dynamics of their relationships by accepting only what aligns with their standards and expectations.
I begged my live in boyfriend of 5 years to marry me because I was scared of being alone because my mother was dying. We were together for 27 years. He treated me badly definitely didn’t love me or even like me. It didn’t end well. No internet for me back in 1992. I did eventually escape
I think ppl should just think proposal is just a proposal? When i propose a bussiness i do it bc i think it has value, ofc and the opposite party ofc accepted it bc they think my proposal is of value for them. Certainly. When ppl say the one proposing in most often case is the party that will have less benefit, then think again, nobody rly know. I think we all should rly not put much too deep of a personal identity or our self-worth on any proposal we were asked or whether we need to do the proposal first. To think that woman proposing means desperation? Well that's clearly quite weird , i do think it's not of our habit in patriaechy culture ,but hey with LGBTQ+ ,woman proposing to man just like another man proposing another woman.. its not like man propose will immediately be accepted. So maybe it's just perjudice and a doctrine of patriarchy i think I never rly had that standard so im pretty lax ,tho i don't plan on entering any romantic relationship bc i think they're full of trouble.
Is it any wonder why in the past and even in current times, families dreaded having daughters and favored sons? It’s cause in the back of their minds they know woman (and the family itself) had much more to lose, while having sons meant more resources for him and his family
Most people focus on the humiliation part... but not the 'nature' part. The human embryo is formed by sperm going to the egg, not the other way around. Break this law and everyone involved will get hurt, not necessarily immediately, but will get hurt at one point because the feminine-masculine roles are unnaturally reversed. Just like gravity law, of course, humans can fly (with an aeroplane, balloons, etc) but for how many hours? Eventually, everything has to come down. The same with feminine-masculine law. Nothing to do with feminism or patriarchy. It's basic nature's law: sperm going to egg. Men propose women.
Animal males fights each other, build nests, show off their feathers and furs to impress female who in the end choses to mate with male she wants and IF she wants. By laws of nature female does not try to impress male, don't fight for it with other females, don't chase, those human men who wants to be treated like princesses and chased have issues with hormones (health) and their own masculinity. In this case she was placeholder to warm up his bed while he searches for someone better to replace her, she should have left him years ago.
If I end up asking my man straight up if he wants to get married, and he says yes but means no ... for one thing, I'd like to think I could tell?! But it would be his own fault for not being a grown-up and saying what he really meant in the first place. If he said yes, but then resented me for it, much less acted out about it?! Also his damn fault and I would gtfo, divorce, whatever. That's the kind of relationship we have and the kind of relationship that I want: one where we can be open and up front with each other. None of this childish, passive aggressive stuff. I don't even get it.
I remember this one vnese celebrity has been with her bf for 10yrs. but he has proposed to her several times and she wasn't ready. recently, she proposed him back basically and they posted photos etc. I think this is probably the only case I'd agree with
I mean.....have we not learned from Krissy and Jim Jones from L&HH??? She proposed to that man on NATIONAL TV, after being with him for over a decade. And he STILL has not married her. I could neverrrrrrr
Thats what I been wondering for myself. I see him more like a best friend and our sons from our previous partners are best friends as well. I would like the idea of marriage but its been a good long wait im almost to the point of just assuming its not going to happen for me. @foreverdreamwithinadream6871
Leave him. I know it sounds cruel and harsh, but in reality, the longer you stay, the more you dig yourself into a hole. You will become more desperate. You will start to question why everyone else gets proposed to and not you. It’s nothing but an emotional bind for you. He has all the power now. They only power you have is in walking away and being happy with yourself. Leave him, and when you do, just tell him that you and him are going in a different directions. Simple as that. Don’t even really bring up being married unless he does. Don’t do the “we get married or I’m leaving” thing. Do you really want to get it that way? He will figure it out. If he doesn’t, you aren’t wasting your time anymore.
I’d rather vacuum sand on the beach than to propose.
I’ll eat the sand out of the vacuum
I'd rather sweep the beach with an eyelash
I love this thread! 🤣
I'd rather find a way to somehow become an airbender and airbend the sand away from my direction.
I'd rather drop each grain of sand into my eyes while wearing dry contact lenses.
The way men don't even worry about being gracious or gentle in their proposal rejections ☹️
But yeah. If he's not your husband, don't live with him. Don't give him children. Don't do domestic labor for him. Don't give him wife benefits.
They don't have to be gentle because they know that 9 times out of 10 a woman isn't going to retaliate or unalive them for saying no.
Please don't give him money.
Right but men act like us saying no is a literal crime.
Well if she’s not showing him she’s worthy of being a wife then while they’re still in boyfriend/girlfriend stage, he shouldn’t be doing husband duties. Now see where that relationship goes after your advice.
@@markcooper1602 🤣 sir men out here doing bare minimum and low effort in relationships ya'll don't need that advice because ya'll already do this!
Thats why you dont play house til you get the ring period. Dont give husband/wife privaleges to a bf or gf or theres no incentive to marry later on
That includes sex..
@@thebirdclanspeak for yourself
@@Samson16436 you can't control yourself?
The fact that he wasted 10 years of her life with no intention on marrying her is sickening.
She's wrong for staying. As a matter of fact, why get with a man in the first place, if you don't know his intentions?
Why I feel he has promised to marry her from time, knowing damn well he had no intention of marrying her? . It is almost like he strung her along, until HE is ready for the woman he wants to marry. He rather have a woman than none at all.10 years??! He is has no intention of settling down with her. She is a place holder, sad she can’t see that. 😔
@@sg5720 Why continue to stay when you realize he's lying? Y'all are too nice.
@@natashadickson4819she might have been so high on the hopes that she actually didnt think he was lying, maybe thats why she stayed
@@natashadickson4819 some women just keep believing what a man tells her.
We're all body language experts, but we become dumb and delusional when it comes to getting what we want.
THIS!!! Communication is 80% non-verbal. Period.
Exactly!
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Don’t do it ladies. Remember, dignity is free.
Well, dignity can carry a cost. Sometimes financial. Recently, a friend disrespected me and instead of staying with her for free, I paid for a hotel, rather than stay with her on her terms. And I'm not well off.
I'm baffled at how so many have a negative opinion on women proposing. Why is it not dignified of me to propose? Idk maybe it's a cultural thing.. I think they sound insane
@@Samson16436 Because if a man wants to marry you, he will ask you himself. If you want to get married, tell him and give him a chance to propose. If he doesn't do it, you have your answer.
Yeah. Pride and dignity is a deeper love.
Ladies, don't propose to a man. Don't give him a baby until he gives you a house, a car, a fully funded retirement account, and a RING. They want trad? Let's give 'em trad, ladies, lol! Let's GOOOOOO!! 😂😂😂
edit: honestly, though, I think the reason men should propose is because on the whole, more often than not, more or less, men benefit from marriage more than women do. Men gain a housekeeper, a childcare provider, a cook, a s3x partner, etc etc etc, while women often give up their careers, freedom, and peace in order to be married. With few exceptions, women are often worse off for being married than if they had stayed free and single. That is why even though I'm feminist, the marriage proposal thing is just the one thing I think is foolish for women to pursue. Let a man prove his worth to you, since women are more at risk in relationships than men are (most often). Let him go out on the limb to get the benefits of marriage. Until then, just live your life and develop your own wellbeing. Marrying someone who doesn't want to marry you is asking for misery.
Women are offended by the word pre-nump but Janet got 500mil after her baby. Make sure you're getting a good deal putting everything on the line
100% it's like a free person begging to be enslaved. It makes no sense.
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I don't even show interest first because it's never worked out for me to. And a lot of men will pretend to like you back so they can get sex or use you.
Amen
My mother gave an ultimatum to the man she loved in the 70s. He never engaged her in the time specified so she left. Later on she met my dad (in a rebound relationship) and (unhappily) gave birth to me. She eventually returned to the original guy and over the years he NEVER married her. She would go back and forth to him (he never left his place of birth..she kept running after him). He wasted her time, off and on, for decades! Ladies, if he wont marry you, its ok. Leave with your pride in tact!
Men are heartless
Nah. Don’t blame the man for wasting you’r mom’s time. Your mom was a fool fo sho.
I had a colleague recount her proposal. It went something like this. She and her (now) husband had been dating around 1 year and half. He wasn't moving in the direction she thought the relationship should have been going. So, she politely told him that perhaps, since marriage was not on the plate, they should move on. Shortly thereafter, old boy, presented her, not only with an engagement ring, but told her to start planning the wedding. She told me it wasn't a threat to make him move. It was an acknowledgement that she was moving on.
It was both😂. I would have just moved on. If he wanted marriage he would have brought it up
@@BlkOnyx0508 you and I think alike🤭
I guess I don't a difference in her purposing and she saying that. She basically proposed to him and he made a decision.
@@LS-bb9qh Thanks for the comment from the both of you. I see it as her being practical by setting boundaries. She knew exactly the direction in which she was heading and respectfully communicated that although it was assumed dating would lead to marriage, she wasn't waiting around. Far from having rose colored glasses about marriage, she's part of a 28-year partnership, with successful sons. I firmly believe men have a modus operandi for involvement with women. She just happens to have been emotionally intelligent in partnering.
Any guy who you have to threaten to leave in order to get him to marry you is not the one I promise you.
On our 2nd date I made it clear that my partner had 1 year to date and figure out if he wanted to have a marriage and life with me otherwise its been fun, and I am out. We didn't have that conversation ever again. I said what I needed to say about it.
My husband proposed 8 months in, and we've been married for 2 years and looking forward to many more😊
The way he scratches his head...its a no. Just saying 🤷
When sisterhood is strengthened it will allow more space for women to decenter men. Right now there is a trend of shaming other women for their poor choices and that’s not going to work. This is discussion and critique. That’s fine. But when women are mistreated, other women are blaming them for it.
I'll count every grain of sand in the world before I propose to a man. Not doing it. If he wanted to marry you he would've asked.
But what if he was wearing a short set? 😂
Listen, I won’t even ask a guy for his number; let alone his hand in marriage. Yuck! 🤮
Miss me with that level of embarrassment.
Fr. I learned my lesson during the Snapchat era. If a guy likes you he will ask you for your contact info.
This is just sexism on steroids
There’s nothing more romantic and more affirming of your place in a man’s life than him proposing. You want someone who is enthusiastic about spending their life with you. My husband proposed less than a year in but he was talking marriage within months of our dating, he knew! Seven years of marriage later and my only regret is I didn’t marry him even sooner😊. We are soulmates, everyone is different, but I wouldn’t have waited longer than 18 months for a ring/marriage. I was 32 and he was 33, we knew what we wanted and needed in a partner.
That is SO SWEET!!!!!! I really hope your marriage is going well 😁😁😁😁
Unless specifically asked for a public proposal
A public proposal is a way to force the person to say yes
I'm old. I do not understand why anyone would think a public proposal is a good idea. To me, it's just such a personal thing, whether the answer is yes, no, or maybe, this kind of big decision needs to be a private matter between the two people involved. Not the kids, not the parents, not the siblings, nobody else.
One of my female cousins on Facebook, in front of friends and family. I could tell he didn't know what to say, but he said yes! But, after that I never saw that guy with her again! Wow
The reason why it’s still “super cringey” in the age of feminism, is because of the mens’ reactions. They never like or appreciate it💁🏽♀️READ THE ROOM‼️
True!
Yep I haven't seen 1 be happy about it.
@@PhotoJeticPoetI wonder why they upload that shi
Chile... my (now ex) was NOT doing what he needed to do to help save our relationship from the things HES done to destroy it. I left on New years this year. Men know. I wasnt going to look back and keep doing all the work
My favorite part of this video is the women who included “I would rather…” in their responses. I liked the lady who said “I would rather fly to the moon… on a kite.”😂😂
Right 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The kite bit got me 😂😊
I love how every stitch turns into a game of would you rather! 🙂
Honestly it's the only reason I pay any attention to this topic 😂😂
23:10 This woman is the only other woman who has said out loud what I've always believed.
It's MEN who are submissive to women.
Not the other way around.
That's why he gets down on his knee to ask for your hand in marriage.
Note: he doesn't DEMAND your hand, he doesn't CLAIM your hand, he ASKS for it. Would he need to ask if he were the one in charge??
A marriage proposal is a man formally asking to serve you and provide for you - if you ALLOW him to. Because men want and need women more than we want and need them.
He needs to convince you to accept him. Because historically, men understood how valuable our sexuality and reproductive abilities are.
Ladies, never forget your power.
🎯🎯🎯 THIS!!!
The truth is it's embarrassing thats it thats all.
@theteleisewilliamsexperience 😂😂😂
I don't think it's embarrassing in the slightest. Clips in this video are embarrassing to watch because of the men's reaction. Women proposing in itself is beautiful, just as when a man does. People in these comments are trippin
@@Samson16436I don't personally agree I saw one where his pregnant girlfriend proposed it made me cringe so bad 😭 something about seeing a visible far along pregnant woman get down on her knees because he didn't ask so she feels like she has too doesn't sit right with me but too each their own 😅
Extremely.
It may seem unromantic to some, but me and my spouse actually TALKED about how we wanted things to go down. Neither one of us wanted to go forward unless we were absolutely sure we weren't putting the other on the spot. We wanted to know that we both wanted to get married before setting up something like that in front of family and friends. It may take out the element of surprise, but sometimes that is a good thing.
If he haven’t proposed or asked you to marry him that means he don’t want to marry you. The truth would be in women’s face and they would just ignore it.
You can be a wife and still a place holder
When we realise this, it’s another step towards peace.
@@Gem-n-life------ a man can be a husband and a place holder. Stop acting like evil bitches don't exist just the same as evil men.
That’s true. But at least I didn’t have to humiliate myself by proposing before getting married.
Janet Janet damnit Janet we don't propose 2 men
lol 😂
I think women proposing to men may be more common in the working class or lower class than middle and upper class groups.
Men who don't make enough money to support a family are least likely to want marriage but, still want to have romantic relationships and children.
I think it’s more common for working, lower, and middle class women to offer ultimatums, but as far as who proposes more it’s the younger generation across the board.
Chrissy proposed to Jim Jones and that's not middle class, or poor. Yes, he still didn't marry her
@@ItsoktoloveyourselfJim Jones the CULT LEADER??!!!! Do you think maybe something else is at play??!!😂😂😳
@@Itsoktoloveyourselfthey’re hood rich so that’s not the same. They still have that ghetto mentality, which is also apart of their brand.
A man not having enough money is not natural. Wanting a relationship and procreation is natural. Back in the day even slaves were having sex and in relationships procreating. So what’s natural to humans should stop unless you can afford it?
That man yelling she set the bar … so cringe and dusty
Right??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The real temptation is not proposing; it’s avoiding the urge to ask a man for his number, for a date or to be his girlfriend.
I still regret having my first time and being intimate with a guy who liked me enough to date me but not be his girlfriend. I’m just glad I had enough self respect to block and delete after he said he wanted to keep going out with me as “friends”. I only wasted 2 months, thank goodness.
Don't regret it lovely. You're a smart lady. Take care ❤
I tink asking for his number is not as bad , but asking him to marry yeh that's just on an hole diferent level , but asking if he wants to grab a coffe won't destroy you
If the fuck wasn't good enough to make the circumstances seem worth it, does it really even count as intimacy? I say no
I hate when people use a skewed view of feminism as an excuse to propose to a man. It has nothing to do with misogyny. Statistically a woman has a lot more to lose in a relationship and that's with a man who wants you. Imagine what you'd go through in a marriage with a man who resents you because he feels like you pressured him to marry you. 🤨
If he does not want to be married, it is his responsibility to be honest and say no. Woman can feel pressured into marriage, too (Look at how manipulative heteronormative public proposals can be), and men can feel pressured to propose. All of this has nothing to do with the fact that it was the woman proposing. Besides, a marriage proposal should never be a complete suprise regardless which gender proposes. The partners should always have had a candid conversation about whether marriage is their end goal in dating, whether they feel ready for it and whether they want a possible proposal to be public or private. The decision should be made before the proposal occurs. You would never have to worry about that man having married you out of pressure if you had honest conversations like this. And if it turnes out you have different goals than be honest to each other and part ways.
So why do these women fight so hard to be married then??
Yeah I get what you're saying1 but if he's a weak and man who couldn't even say no it's on him
Then you chose the wrong man. I'm baffled by these comments. Why is he the only one that gets to propose in a confession of commitment and love? Why can't I do that?
I think there is a huge difference between proposing to a man in private and infront of other people. Same as if it would be a man proposing, don't push people!
Btw, I come to a country where women often propose to the man and it is not seen as different.
In my country people do not always get married but still live together as a comitted couple their whole lives. Commitment is the key, not a marriage certificate.
where? Germany?
19:00 How many of these videos have we seen where the guy looks *happy* to be proposed to? None. They always look like they are being dragged to their execution and they usually say no. So the reason we find it cringy is because we know these women knew these men did not want to marry them and they tried to publicly force the man's hand. That's desperate and cringy. When men publicly propose to women they know don't want to marry them, that also looks desperate and cringy.
He scratched his head, before shook his head”no.”
When they scratch that head…they ain’t feeling you 😂
I have observed that when women propose to men it is always in a situation where they put them in a surprise position to be asked a question on the spot. It is never a good decision for a woman to propose to a man ever. Allow a man to be a man and ask you for your hand in marriage. The way that the relationship starts is sadly how it will end.
Not "send the rapture"! 😂😂😂
Homegirl with the glassess. 😂😂 Hilarious! My girl sais she would rather climb Mount Everest in Louboutins...I am dead. 💀💀
You know you've messed up when Shera7's advice is hittin 😂
I know things are bad in the blk community however this is just shameful at this point!!!
I think aside from men not really wanting to marry the woman, most men find it emasculating & embarrassing for his woman to go down on one knee to propose to him, because traditionally it's the men who does that, not women.
Ladies your time is the most valuable more than money. Our time is more important than a man. A man knows he wants to married you after 6 months. Don’t chase the more you ask the more you demand the less you get! Men only understand action. Walk away
“if a woman proposed to me… i would be in witness protection TOMORROW”
when i tell you i cackled and wheezed!!! 🤣
lol
Don’t do this, if he cheats and you find out he will say “ BUT I NEVER WANTED TO BE MARRIED”!, it was your idea, you proposed”
15:20-16:25
This woman has me ROLLING 🤣
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every woman needs an honest ass hilarious friend like this
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I proposed to my husband. I’m 50, from the uk, he’s from Arizona. He moved here to be with me. To stay, the easiest way was for us to get married. I’ve been proposed to over 40 times in my life- I’m SE Asian and have had requests since the age of 11. Each time I said no.
My expartner proposed when I was 23 but made me pay for it. I decided I didn’t want to ever get married very early on. But here, for the first time it felt right. Him being a grown arsed man said yes straight away. No hate. He still talks about how he loved that I did. It’s not perfect but it works for me. ❤😂❤
Note: it wasn’t in public 🤮🤮🤮 there is no video 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ it was an intimate moment between the two of us
11??! A man tried to make you his child bride?!
@@CalamityM yes, he was in his 30s, I was 11. He was in Pakistan, I in the UK.
You the only sane person here. I'm honestly sick by the reactions in these comments. If I confess my love and commitment by proposing I have no dignity?? Wth is wrong with these people
If I had a daughter I would tell her that between the ages of 18 and 25 three years is long enough. If he’s not talking about marriage by then it’s time to move on. Over age 25 I would tell her that if he isn’t talking about marriage after 1 year then it’s time to move on. Heed this advice as it was learned through trial and error.
Men do not become real marriage material before age 30 (and I don´t care about a few rare exceptions amongst millions and billions). Around age 30 is when you can start applying the 1 - 3 year ultimatum with them.
I would rather go through labor and delivery every year from 25 til 75, before I propose to a man.
Wow
When you have to go over boundaries, know that that man does not want you. But you just presented yourself as a door-mat and that it a proposal he just can not turn down!
I remember when I was 19. My BD said he wanted to marry me, but I had to pick out(buy) my own ring.
I’m so glad I didn’t do that.
👀
Proposing to a man sounds so embarassing
Grow up
Thanks for the warning
A woman proposing definitely says a lot about their relationship. I wonder what the the longevity stats are on these types of relationships.
I absolutely love the
"I would rather lady"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The lady at 16:29 🤣🙌 absolutely me 🤣🤣
notice all the women encouraging women proposing - are a certain demographic.
The bar is indeed in hell…😢
The lady 15.09 mins in sums it up ! Bang ! I love someone with an opinion worth listening to !
They could have said no. Do they not have a backbone??
Cause if he says no, then he will lose her. Men may not like the woman he is with but they love the benefits. Until they find a woman they want who wants them and she can do it all for him, he will leave. Until then most men will stay. 🤦🏽
@@sg5720 I beginning to realize how sick in the head these males are.
@@sg5720spot on, it's only about the benefits they are getting, it's way too comfy to leave for most of them but they cheatin on these women with somebody else most of the time, it's ridiculous
Men never look happy when they get proposed to. 😂
Remember Chrissy and Jim Jones? I can't believe women still propose after that.
At some point, women need to realize that if you spend 10 years with a man who shows no interest in tying the knot when that's what you want, it's not that he's wasted your time, its that you've decided to waste that time on someone who doesn't care about your future together. Sunk cost is a terrible fallacy to fall into, so ladies please respect your time more and cut the dead weight.
I can't and wouldn't want my daughter to either. I pray she chooses well and knows her worth. Also believe it
I'd rather die than ask a man on a date and certainly to get married. Jodie Turner-smith asked and now they are divorced and a young child is in the middle of that nonsense
What was even worse was that she proudly talked about them starting out as a one night stand, and then continuing as f*** buddies, until she pushed the issue of a relationship and marriage. Like him initially just picking her as his hEaUx for a night and her going for that was a flex to share on TV with a beaming smile!
@@Aqua23-ammg I hadn't heard that part. It just gets worse and worse
5:50 i get why you’d blame the friend but tbh - that’s how you lose “friends”. i spoke up about an ex friends bf once - and she ended up calling me “mean” and a “know it all” 🤷🏻♀️ i guess in that sense it’s a good way to know if your “friends is a pick me.
Exactly!!! I said the same thing and someone got mad. That’s why these men out here saying “if he can get the milk why buy the cow???”
Dear you have point it's better first get married before sex problem will be solved
She just set the bar in hell..🧐💯
Right
Some people be proposing in public knowing damn well their partner would have never agreed if they had done so more privately. Public proposals, whether man or women, is manipulation unless they talked and agreed to it beforehand
They will string you along if you let them until he meets THE ONE!...
Propose if it it gets you ultimately to the end point of this relationship faster. Mostly, you don’t want to waste any more time than you already have on him. Dump him and move on. Sitting around, waiting for men to ask you to marry them because of internalized patriarchy is pasé. I am and shall remain the director of my destiny. Yes to the lady in the blue shirt.
I think it's okay to let your partner know that you're expecting marriage, if he doesn't take the hint. But orchestrating a marriage proposal, God no! That video of the girl on her knees, in front of the man's family. It was so painful to watch. Are there engagement rings for men anyway?
Someone should tell all of those people that love is not magic, but the will to love someone no matter what and when you get married in a church God gives you a strength to do that.
6:04 is just embarrassing af. It's like mother pressuring son to do something he don't want.
If you've talked about it and are on the same page. I dont think there is anything wrong with a women proposing. The singer Pink proposed to her husband and they're still together. I think discounting this practice just shows how much we still need to do in regard to changing negative societal norms that hurt women. Why are we still okay with waiting for a man to choose us.
Makes no sense don't lower your standards and propose
23:38 also, asking a guy out first - if he’s not in pursuit mode, he never will be, even if he agrees to date you for sexual access, financial resources, etc. You’ll always wonder if he’s really there because he wanted you. I never swipe right on any guy even if I’m attracted to them, unless they have swiped right on me first.
I think you can show interest but the man has to ask you out and chase you I had success by this strategy of mine I do show interest for men who I like if he's interested they often chase me if I see a man cold and he's not reciprocating I drop him but I can NEVER imagine asking a man out let alone propose 🥴
@@nanomia hmm, hasn’t worked for me. It’s been either all in or no
When women propose to men, it shiws me that they're not ready for marriage or don't know what marriage is really about. Marriage is WORK with the right partner, so you definitely don't want the wrong one, and if he didn't initiate it, he probably won't be the right one. When you lead with the desperation to ask a man to choose you, instead of allowing him to choose you on his own, you will be asking him to choose you for the duration of the marriage because he won't see the marriage as one of his priorities, but a favor he did you.
To the lady in blue: It has nothing to do with misogyny, at least not my reasons. Nene Leakes said it best when she said “a man needs to like you a little bit more than you like them.” Men are largely disinterested in relationships and are not wholeheartedly invested in them. They don’t do the kind of mental or emotional lifting women do to maintain them. The only men who actually do this are those who are emotionally mature AND who are crazy about you and see you as a prize, aka, “like you a little more than you like them.” So to have to propose to a man just makes it clear that he is in the former group of men who are largely disinterested, accustomed to not doing the mental or emotional lifting, and who also do not see you as a prize. You are going to propose to someone who is just with you for lack of a good enough reason not to be?
Another point is that the woman in red saying she was “here for” women proposing just shows how unhealthy her relationship is. She said out of her mouth she would but her man would not like it. You know this, yet you’re going to do something you know he wouldn’t like? If it was the other way around, and a man said he was going to propose to his girlfriend on the Jumbotron at a basketball game but that he knew she wouldn’t like it, would you say that man have a crap about her or the proposal?
I agree. I really don't understand why you would propose especially if you knew it would upset the other person?
This trend seems to be (at least to me) a result of men being mommied. I feel like this is the next step. Theyre so incompetent, and just need everything done for them besides working, that they cant even propose now and just waiting for the woman to do it. And the sad thing is that they wont even be happy bout it but it'll be easy and done for them. Just livin on ez mode where these women just do everything for them and set up their family with no participation from the men.
I’ve been proposed to three times. All of them happened within the first year. I said no and said from the beginning that I don’t want marriage. But the point is it was all a year in (I personally think that’s waaaaayyyyy too soon to propose but obviously that’s because marriage scares the shit out of me 😅😅)
He owes you dowry too! I’m an African woman. African men know both sides of our families are involved in courtship. So the men don’t play with you or waste your precious time because they fear your father and uncles. I hate this for her. I wish I was there to read him for filth in front of his and her entire family. Learn the culture, so they can’t play with you. Demand respect.
What does a male engagement ring even look like ? 😂
A wedding ring she bought for herself for him to put on her finger 🥴
@@Gem-n-lifeSo embarrassing!
@@Gem-n-life lol this reminds me how my mom dated man who made her buy her own birthday gift. At this point woman is fooling herself about being loved and wanted by that man, and often that man is not even worth it but this all is done for outdated societal expectations where single woman is seen as unwanted, lesser, second class so she feels she needs to work hard, sacrifice herself, embarrass herself just to keep man. When she will learn to love herself without validation from society and men then she will find someone who will see value in her, she can't expect it to happen now when she doesn't even see value in herself.
@@rengurengeshe bought her own gifts with her own money or his money? I don’t get it
15:13 sent me 😂😂😂😂
Embarrassing 🤢
If a woman puts in effort and plans a bunch of romantic stuff, takes her partner's feelings into account, asks what her partner thinks about being proposed to by a woman and what kind of things he likes it should be no problem. For women who daydream about relationships and big milestones such as engagements and marriage. They should be encouraged to take more control in the process to prevent disappointment. So women proposing should become normalized. At this point in society we have gained more opportunities to become mens' financial, political, legal, and social equals than ever before. So if thats the case we can go around hubbying men up no problem. This also takes the pressure off men from having to navigate whether they should still conform to traditional cultural norms in a modern society. One example being whether to ask a woman's father for her hand in marriage or whether to just propose to her. Whether to buy her the most expensive rock or to go ring shopping for both rings together. At the end of the day marriage is a team sport so decisions, financial costs, and plans should be expected of both parties more in a serious relationship leading towards that.
Thank you
Am I the only one who thought the Burberry hat guy was happy?
He probably found it hilarious 😂
12:47 I just cringed to the depths of my SOUL.
The women in his family said yes, as it’s going to lighten their load. It doesn’t have anything to do with them truly accepting her.
These are the worst case scenarios. I would like to see the cases where they are together 2-3 years and they are both happy with the woman proposing and the man gleefully accepting. No pressure, no manipulation, just two people who are comfortable with their dynamic.
100% it doesn't matter which gender proposes first. If both people are on the same page about marriage and respect each other, the marriage will work out.
Don’t you think if this scenario existed we would’ve heard it already 😒
@@juned1719 It does exist but is not publicized mostly due to stigma. The same reason why people in healthy marriages are mostly quiet- they don't want people plotting on their demise. Also negative stories always get more airtime.
@@mariposaflame4194 if you go find the reel, I will watch. I WILL WAIT
@@juned1719 It does exist, but it’s not the norm, and unfortunately this dynamic has a lot of misses than it does hits. It takes a special man to accept his partner proposing, making more money, having a higher sex drive, etc. than him.
I would NEVER..... EVERRRR..... PROPOSE to a BOY (Real MEN propose to the women they love) BOYS keep you in Limbo.
Women should be mindful of their decisions regarding starting a family before marriage if they seek a committed partnership. It is essential for women to take responsibility for setting clear expectations and boundaries, including a personal timeline for leaving if a proposal does not come within a reasonable period.
A woman's ability to walk away from an uncommitted relationship should be developed from experiences in dating, like recognizing red flags.
Women should focus on cultivating self-worth, inner strength, and a strong sense of personal values. When these qualities are in place, a man is more likely to commit without hesitation. The issue is not solely with men-women play a key role in shaping the dynamics of their relationships by accepting only what aligns with their standards and expectations.
Why do yall equate being a wife with cooking and cleaning in 2024?
Outdated and re-enforced "traditions", passed down from generation to generation. 😂
THANK YOU or a single woman as having cats!
23:22 This the one!! 😂🤣🤣
I begged my live in boyfriend of 5 years to marry me because I was scared of being alone because my mother was dying. We were together for 27 years. He treated me badly definitely didn’t love me or even like me. It didn’t end well. No internet for me back in 1992. I did eventually escape
Real question: why are we obsessed with owning other humans!?!?
I think ppl should just think proposal is just a proposal? When i propose a bussiness i do it bc i think it has value, ofc and the opposite party ofc accepted it bc they think my proposal is of value for them.
Certainly.
When ppl say the one proposing in most often case is the party that will have less benefit, then think again, nobody rly know.
I think we all should rly not put much too deep of a personal identity or our self-worth on any proposal we were asked or whether we need to do the proposal first.
To think that woman proposing means desperation? Well that's clearly quite weird , i do think it's not of our habit in patriaechy culture ,but hey with LGBTQ+ ,woman proposing to man just like another man proposing another woman.. its not like man propose will immediately be accepted.
So maybe it's just perjudice and a doctrine of patriarchy i think
I never rly had that standard so im pretty lax ,tho i don't plan on entering any romantic relationship bc i think they're full of trouble.
Is it any wonder why in the past and even in current times, families dreaded having daughters and favored sons? It’s cause in the back of their minds they know woman (and the family itself) had much more to lose, while having sons meant more resources for him and his family
So why are yall in relationship knowing ur not getting married
Maybe they don't want to? Marriage isn't the goal for everyone
Most people focus on the humiliation part... but not the 'nature' part. The human embryo is formed by sperm going to the egg, not the other way around. Break this law and everyone involved will get hurt, not necessarily immediately, but will get hurt at one point because the feminine-masculine roles are unnaturally reversed. Just like gravity law, of course, humans can fly (with an aeroplane, balloons, etc) but for how many hours? Eventually, everything has to come down. The same with feminine-masculine law. Nothing to do with feminism or patriarchy. It's basic nature's law: sperm going to egg. Men propose women.
Animal males fights each other, build nests, show off their feathers and furs to impress female who in the end choses to mate with male she wants and IF she wants. By laws of nature female does not try to impress male, don't fight for it with other females, don't chase, those human men who wants to be treated like princesses and chased have issues with hormones (health) and their own masculinity. In this case she was placeholder to warm up his bed while he searches for someone better to replace her, she should have left him years ago.
😂😂😂😂😂
If I end up asking my man straight up if he wants to get married, and he says yes but means no ... for one thing, I'd like to think I could tell?! But it would be his own fault for not being a grown-up and saying what he really meant in the first place.
If he said yes, but then resented me for it, much less acted out about it?! Also his damn fault and I would gtfo, divorce, whatever.
That's the kind of relationship we have and the kind of relationship that I want: one where we can be open and up front with each other. None of this childish, passive aggressive stuff. I don't even get it.
I remember this one vnese celebrity has been with her bf for 10yrs. but he has proposed to her several times and she wasn't ready. recently, she proposed him back basically and they posted photos etc. I think this is probably the only case I'd agree with
I mean.....have we not learned from Krissy and Jim Jones from L&HH??? She proposed to that man on NATIONAL TV, after being with him for over a decade. And he STILL has not married her. I could neverrrrrrr
im year 5 in mine and im starting to really worry =/
Propose to him 😁
haha =/ I would rather be alone with my dog for the rest of my life at this point
@@AkashaImanethen stay and keep wasting ur life.. he might up n leave
Thats what I been wondering for myself. I see him more like a best friend and our sons from our previous partners are best friends as well. I would like the idea of marriage but its been a good long wait im almost to the point of just assuming its not going to happen for me.
@foreverdreamwithinadream6871
Leave him. I know it sounds cruel and harsh, but in reality, the longer you stay, the more you dig yourself into a hole. You will become more desperate. You will start to question why everyone else gets proposed to and not you. It’s nothing but an emotional bind for you. He has all the power now. They only power you have is in walking away and being happy with yourself.
Leave him, and when you do, just tell him that you and him are going in a different directions. Simple as that. Don’t even really bring up being married unless he does. Don’t do the “we get married or I’m leaving” thing. Do you really want to get it that way? He will figure it out. If he doesn’t, you aren’t wasting your time anymore.