How to Read & Write Graphic Notation (part 2) - Music Stuff With Spock #9

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  • Music Stuff With Spock #9 is part two of a two part look at graphic notation and how it works: how notes are represented by symbols, shapes and lines and a few ways that they are laid-out, like improv., cell notation and frame notation.
    I explain a concept or aspect about graphic notation, write and record a short musical example and you get to see the correlation between the symbols and the sounds. The notation examples are all my own other than a few scans of classic 50s scores, and all the pieces are performed by me using a chamber ensemble of: flute, clarinet, melodica, piano, percussion and strings (violin, viola, cello), plus a few electroacoustic bits and a synthesizer on one track.
    Recorded in GarageBand, video made in iMovie - June 27, 2017

КОМЕНТАРІ • 44

  • @renaldoramai-musiccomposer7399
    @renaldoramai-musiccomposer7399 5 років тому +3

    One of the best educational videos on the internet. Bravo!

  • @berkdum-lu6166
    @berkdum-lu6166 7 років тому +13

    Reaaaally inspiring stuff Michel! You've opened a window into a very new way of thinking about the visual aspect of music notation and experimentation for me! Thank you and keep up the great work that you're doing! Cheers!

    • @spocksmusic
      @spocksmusic  7 років тому +1

      Very cool and glad to have helped (that's why I do them, I think).

  • @NewsOriginal
    @NewsOriginal 6 років тому +7

    Oh my good....with your video I've just realize that the way i compose and i write music by ears exist!!!! (i'm not a composer so i can't use standard notation to write music; I just use notes as dots in Finale to transform my ideas in sounds since i can't read or write a music sheet Lol) I will study graphic notation so that i can improve a lot! many thanks!!!

    • @spocksmusic
      @spocksmusic  6 років тому +2

      Thank's, and cool. I'm glad this helped. . . . and the more you study graphic notation, I would think eventually standard would start to make more sense (since there is a crossover). Keep up the studying.

  • @toddharrop9094
    @toddharrop9094 Рік тому +3

    Great job! I can see a lot of work went into that video, thanks for making it. -Todd (a composer from Guelph, now in Hamburg)

    • @spocksmusic
      @spocksmusic  Рік тому

      Thank you - they do take a while. I'm glad you appreciate it. By the way, I like your stuff - Konzert brought me back to my early days of discovering Cage. . . . and that 88 tone guitar - I haven't quite wrapped my head around that yet.

  • @Daniel90802
    @Daniel90802 3 роки тому +2

    Mr. Spock, you are amazing! This material is very well presented. Thanks.

  • @DGolden247
    @DGolden247 6 років тому +3

    Learning about graphic notation makes me want to learn the standard music notation so I could participate in making such beautiful works of art.

    • @spocksmusic
      @spocksmusic  6 років тому +2

      It's never too late to learn. Michael New has a lot of videos on that subject and I am starting to put together my own series that I'll start posting later this year.

  • @jasonmalli3590
    @jasonmalli3590 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic production and pedagogy.

  • @tladb
    @tladb 3 роки тому +1

    This videos works well as an explanation and with example of playing and composition by Michael.

  • @CharmingTheAmused
    @CharmingTheAmused 5 років тому +2

    This has been sooooo helpful! Thank you so much for your great video!

  • @spotify_ERROR404
    @spotify_ERROR404 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you. 👍
    So Schillinger is in the other group of composers. Interesting how tonal painting offers a tangible object to streaming data.

  • @Ferarri4444
    @Ferarri4444 6 років тому +8

    Wow. Blown away.

    • @spocksmusic
      @spocksmusic  6 років тому +2

      Cool, and thanks for subscribing. I'm just starting a new crop of videos that will be up in a month or so.

  • @ritadighent
    @ritadighent 6 років тому +1

    Spock, this is superb. I'm making this required viewing and study for all my Improv students at York! PS: love the cameos by your beloved Spike : )

    • @spocksmusic
      @spocksmusic  Рік тому +1

      Thank you (if not belated). I somehow missed this comment. . . sorry.

  • @dyarau5315
    @dyarau5315 3 роки тому +2

    Que gran trabajo !!! y bello gato en el cielo.

    • @spocksmusic
      @spocksmusic  Рік тому

      Thank you. . .and yes, we miss Spike.

  • @adfinder5791
    @adfinder5791 2 роки тому +2

    I was wondering if I would see any art oriented graphic notation. the score at 12:43 is beautiful

    • @spocksmusic
      @spocksmusic  2 роки тому +1

      Sure, just google (or other search) "graphic scores" and click on images. Many of the famous graphic scores have been scanned and uploaded somewhere. I just recently found a composer named "Barry Guy" who has some interesting scores.

  • @gregkaufmanmusic9823
    @gregkaufmanmusic9823 5 років тому +1

    At 12:44 you show the score for Landscape #1 and then a few seconds later you show the 'performance score'. Do most graphic scores come in two versions like this? Also, if the performers are receiving the performance score then what is the purpose of the initial score you show and who is it intended for? Thanks for making these videos on graphic scores, I've found them very helpful!

    • @spocksmusic
      @spocksmusic  5 років тому +2

      No, many (probably most) don't. However, in many instances the performer will make a performance score of their own in order to play a piece - their version of a "cheat sheet". In most instances, the graphic notation is used as a jump off point for an improvisation - but if you want the improv in a very specific way, you may need to add more information. In those cases (like Landscape #1) the initial graphic score is really for the reader of the score. It ends up being a piece of visual art which COULD be played or listened to but is not completely necessary to enjoy the score itself. This is where music starts to cross over into visual art.

    • @gregkaufmanmusic9823
      @gregkaufmanmusic9823 5 років тому

      @@spocksmusic Thanks for explaining :)

  • @SebastianGramsss
    @SebastianGramsss 3 роки тому +1

    thank you from cologne!

  • @miki890098
    @miki890098 6 років тому +2

    So you are telling me that the pitches in most of those fancy notated stuff is improvvisated!?

    • @spocksmusic
      @spocksmusic  6 років тому +2

      Unless otherwise notated - yes. Sometimes there are guidelines (improvise in Dm - or use these five notes etc.), sometimes you just make up the notes as you follow the shape - and your ears and theoretical knowledge guides you as to what notes to play. Like many things in music: it's not hard to do, just hard to do well. It comes down to practice - and in a progressive order: practice playing, practice improvising, practice improvising to shapes, then practice doing it with others at the same time.

  • @GoodMorrow-s5x
    @GoodMorrow-s5x 8 місяців тому +1

    Genius

  • @highvoltagestudios
    @highvoltagestudios 5 років тому +2

    this makes me want to notate a bob ross painting

    • @spocksmusic
      @spocksmusic  5 років тому +1

      That would be neat! I've always wanted to do the Toronto skyline.

  • @krismariasy9728
    @krismariasy9728 6 років тому +1

    Very cool! I recently wrote a piece with graphic notation. Could I send it to you by email?

    • @spocksmusic
      @spocksmusic  6 років тому

      Sure. I'm intrigued.
      My email is: aliensatlarge@sympatico.ca

    • @spocksmusic
      @spocksmusic  6 років тому

      Did you ever send that piece? I don't remember seeing it. I had problems with my email for a couple of months so I may have missed it.

  • @unknownfilmmaker777
    @unknownfilmmaker777 2 роки тому +1

    Did you used to live in Honolulu in the 80s?

    • @spocksmusic
      @spocksmusic  2 роки тому

      No. I've never been to the islands (but always wanted to).

    • @unknownfilmmaker777
      @unknownfilmmaker777 2 роки тому

      @@spocksmusic OK cool. I ask because the skater crowd back then had a guy nicknamed Spock and he looked like you.

    • @spocksmusic
      @spocksmusic  2 роки тому

      @@unknownfilmmaker777 Well, that is quite a coincidence. I've run into one or the other, but not both.