This is quite old video, but I comment for other viewers who might be wondering... You mentioned that the recline is a bit stiff for you, this can be actually tuned. There is an inbus bolt on the bottom, just behind the cylinder, by turning it you can make the recline stiffer or softer. This is incredible chair, since I am using it in the home-office, even sitting 12hrs a day is not a problem at all. No back problems, no neck pain, no forearm or wrist pain anymore. But mind you, some people need to get used to this chair first (actually you need to re-learn to sit properly, in case you were using some less ergonomic chair before), thus the initial feeling could be little "weird". You really need to use whole seat and rest your back firmly against the lumbar support. It took me about a week to get used to it.
+Pavel Vitis I tried it at a store near me. I really really liked it save for the armrests being all wobbly and crooked. It's better than the ergohuman and aeron for me, but i thought the recline would be a problem.(It felt a bit loose) Thanks for the comment. I'm sold on it but it's expensive AF, So i'm going to try to pick up one used.
SiriusXification Yes, go for used one, you can get it for third of a price of new one on eBay. I definitely recommend the headrest version. And, avoid leather.
+Avinash Arora Some people have said the chair feels flimsy. Others have mentioned there are tensioning mechanisms used to set the chair up before prolonged use. I imagine tightening these mechanisms would take a lot of that play out of the chair and mitigate the "flimsy" feel. Did you find your chair to be flimsy and if so, were you able to fix it?
PIK now that I've owned one for a little while, I can definitely say that for the price flimsy is an accurate term. I still love the chair but I had to repair it once and the arms no longer line up perfectly. overall still a great chair, but if I had to pay full price I probably would be annoyed.
You own a lot of chairs ;) I'm looking to buy a new office chair and I was wondering which do you prefer out of the Herman Miller Embody, Humanscale Freedom and Ergohuman?
Does it come fully assembled like all of Herman Miller chairs? Feels kind of comfortable? I want one that is comfortable, not kind of comfortable and stiff as you mention. I see your headrest is already sagging ripple of the material. That material did it crack and peel over time?
Don't you think that the persons size makes a big difference on how comfortable a chair is? I'm about your size and have had an Obusforme for over 10 years but the seat is crumbling away and no one is interested in supplying any replacement! This has a high back and I have never like the headrest. I have been looking for reviews of the Freedom hence I arrived here. Thank you very much for the other info
That price is a straight punch to the loins. Although if I would have just spent the money in stead of going cheap I would not be shopping for another chair. I place my knees in the cheap chair I currently own like an idiot sitting backwards crouched style and leaned forward snapped the damn wheel off; just one wheel. The base is made of plastic and the cost of the chair is only 120 dollars; so yeah I went down hard. Now I look for something made of metal or since I design things I may just create a chair cheaper than 3k. This chair is about the cost of my PC workstation and I break things often so I need something that last longer than a year and will not break with "mistreatment" (yeah let's call it mistreatment). I will be continuing my search because if I can find a chair that works and is good for the price then I will purch and allow that to be the end of it. Until it breaks and I finally design an office chair.
do you own this chair or were you given this chair to review it? do you like to collect expensive chairs (not that there's anything wrong with that - i may add a steelcase leap to accompany my herman miller embody).
this girl is so funny, love her way of speaking. tried this chair in person, and it's honestly just too stiff, doesn't feel very nice compared to the smaller (b) aeron. i have a dxracer (bad back support and claustrophobic sides) and steelcase amia (relies on replacing cushion every 3-4 month and bad tilt), leap chair is not uniform and it's gimmicky, only other chair i'd consider is hag capisco
Steve Rolston It really depends on your comfort and what you like. I like the lumbar of the Ergohuman and the price better than the Freedom. However, I like the padding, the feel, and the look of the Freedom much better. For my own unique tastes, I prefer the Freedom by a small margin. If you have a store you can check out the chairs, be sure to do so. One note about the Freedom though...the automatic headrest / back tilt adjustment can take some getting used to and can be a huge dealbreaker for some.
This seems like the perfect dual-use chair: both for office work and, when reclined, for media viewing or gaming. The Aeron is appealing, as is the Leap, but the lack of a headrest seems like a dealbreaker. Any others I should be considering?
+KrisAK : this is great for gaming. I prefer the embody and the leap, and actually I do not prefer using a head rest. You should definitely try the chairs out at a store if you can.
+KrisAK sat in one of these (sans headrest) more than five or six years ago to sell it on my ebay account for a friend who bought if from a storage unit sale for 25 bucks from someone who didn't realize what they had. I sat in it for almost 36 hours, maybe getting up to pee a couple of times, during the whole process of researching the thing and making the ad for it. At the end of the auction, I was really a bit heartbroken to see it go, because I felt not a single cramp or crimp at all and didn't even realize that much time had passed after pulling an all-nighter-day-nighter in it. I vowed to get one of my own someday to duplicate that week long experience of sitting in a chair that was that unnoticeable, and it has been at the top of my wish list ever since until I just ordered one TODAY because we found some money enough to make it happen at at last. Turns out that the tweeter my boyfriend found in the garbage 17 years ago was actually a really rare audiophile collectors item that he sold last month for more several thousand dollars, and he was determined that we buy something nice for ourselves that we would enjoy instead of just handing it over to the bills for once. It is the day furniture equivalent of my Tempurpedic mattress, something you don't even know you are missing out on until you experience the alternative and then you realize that it is a luxury that you will get more out of life with every single day if you sit in an office chair as many hours as you spend in bed. I hadn't known that my getting up only once a night to pee or whatever was at all a kind of unrestful sleep until I learned what it was like to awaken after a proper uninterrupted cycle, and I no longer am slow to get out of bed because I am having more energy despite actually having shorter overall time in bed because I actually SLEEP WELL for the 4 to 6 hours on that mattress instead of just not quite getting to that deep rejuvenation while in bed for 7 hours or more on something else. It's impossible to describe the difference between what I know now and hat I didn't know before I sat in one of these for a week. I knew exactly what I wouldn't ever regret spending some of that found money on, even if things got tight later. It may not look like much, but I tell you, It's a damn good chair. I didn't even ever notice a lack of the headrest , but I would recommend the gel seat cushion vs the standard foam since I know it is like nothing I have ever not noticed before. I only think about the chair I am in when I am uncomfortable and have to move or adjust it. That chair never entered my mind at all until I had to let it go.
Why is the headrest bad? I can see it might lead to bad habits elsewhere...leaning back and holding your arms out for extended periods of time to type. Did the therapist suggest other models for you to look at?
My favorite chair is the Herman Miller Embody. But I use / rotate through three chairs on a daily / weekly basis. If I am eating food or doing something that might be messy, I will use the leather Steelcase Leap, as to not stain my Embody. Clients will sit and use the Freedom. I also use the Freedom when I am not working.
moogoogaipan1999 Thanks for the input. :) As you can see in my video here, I'll probably be looking for a new chair soon: Aeron Chair Quality & Customer Support Issues
phototristan: Eeeks! I am sorry to hear about your experience! If you want great customer service, I suggest Humanscale. I have used their warranty services before, and they have been great! Super fast, quick, easy to deal with. As for the other companies, I have not had any experiences with them.
Wow your like the Chair Goddess. Herman Miller, Steelcase, Humanscale, Ergohuman. Dont think there are very few people that can compare them all. =D I have a Aeron I been sitting on for like 5 years. I kind of like it. But the Freedom looks bad ass. Mixed reviews on Amazon though, mostly build quality and comfort. Everyone complains about the head position. I am stuck between the Embody or Freedom though. We have 2 Aeron's and no complaints at all so I trust the Herman Miller brand. Wish I could sit in them in real life though. So how would you you, Chair Goddess, rank your favorite chairs from first to last?
Hahahaha! Thanks. Yeah, so from first to last, Herman Miller, Steel case, Humanscale, Ergohuman. Ergohuman the least because it hurt my thighs after some time due to hard padding.
+moogoogaipan1999 Thanks! I went to Relax The Back and tried the Freedom. felt very flimsy. I saw this new bad ass chair called the "Vaya" by Positive Posture. I really really dig it. The downside is the price....$3000... but the guy that designed the Ferrari Enzo designed it so, I guess. I be curious to see what you think.
***** : For me, it was the back support. The embody gave me better back support and I was less fatigued after 8hrs. But each person is different. Whatever you choose, as long as it fits you well. Cheers.
+Christopher Hayden I sat in the freedom for more than 36 hours and didn't even realize how long it had been. It was so comfortable I may have even fallen asleep in it for a while, and didn't even have a kink or cramp at all. Felt completely great and alert and never had to adjust anything at all. I've wanted one of my own ever since and that was more than five years ago that I got to use it for a week while listing it on auction at ebay for my friend. Was loathe to hand it over after it was done, I tell you... Finally ordered a refurbished one this morning and am very sure I will find it a shame I didn't scare up the cash to do it sooner once it arrives. The fact that I spent so much time in it and never even got distracted by a pressure point that whole week - I've never noticed a chair that I spent so long NOT noticing it, due to the fact that the only time you think about the chair you're sitting in is because its making you uncomfortable enough to think about it. Now I notice the fact that I never had to notice it at all... I miss that.
Wanted to like this chair, but the zero adjustability for leaning back ruined that for me. Whether it would be a locking, or tension mechanism, not having either meant it was way too easy for me to lean back and a chore to stay up straight. Sure, it stems from how we tend to sit in a chair, throwing all our weight on the backrest...but I guess the chair doesn't seem built for different weight groups in that way.
Well, I guess that salesman didn't know what he was talking about then. That or he just knew there wasn't something easily adjustable like a knob for the hand.
@@kamasu4222 the tension stops it. I like this chair and even the gel seat. I remember thinking this would be my perfect chair and for working when reclined, it's very good. However, I wish it had a synchro tilt where the seat reclined too but at a lower ratio to the back. The seats feel hard but supportive, which I used to thinking was necessary for ergo chairs but the Steelcase Gesture or Leap aren't so firm. It's a great chair in many ways but I felt that for the money it should be perfect. I prefer the Gesture with headrest and the HM Embody. I believe this lady prefers the Embody too. I'd also be unlikely to buy the Freedom new. I've seen quite a few on offer lightly used for big discounts. It's well built so there's not a huge risk in buying a used one.
2:57 That's not ergonomic position. Pull your shoulders back, push your chest front. Align your head with that. This is a shit chair. You may feel good now but you'll develop back problems in time.
@@Nigel__ How so? This is how you sit on it no matter the angle. I had that chair. It does not let you sit correctly. You can't pull your shoulders back and fit in the chair.
@@bestopinion9257i have this chair, i have really wide shoulders for my height (5ft 8) and i am around 210 pounds and i can retract my shoulder blades just fine. You just dont like the chair so you need to come on here and complain
This is quite old video, but I comment for other viewers who might be wondering... You mentioned that the recline is a bit stiff for you, this can be actually tuned. There is an inbus bolt on the bottom, just behind the cylinder, by turning it you can make the recline stiffer or softer.
This is incredible chair, since I am using it in the home-office, even sitting 12hrs a day is not a problem at all. No back problems, no neck pain, no forearm or wrist pain anymore.
But mind you, some people need to get used to this chair first (actually you need to re-learn to sit properly, in case you were using some less ergonomic chair before), thus the initial feeling could be little "weird". You really need to use whole seat and rest your back firmly against the lumbar support. It took me about a week to get used to it.
+Pavel Vitis : Thanks for the comments! I do hope others will read it. I had no idea that the recline was adjustable!
+Pavel Vitis I tried it at a store near me. I really really liked it save for the armrests being all wobbly and crooked.
It's better than the ergohuman and aeron for me, but i thought the recline would be a problem.(It felt a bit loose) Thanks for the comment.
I'm sold on it but it's expensive AF, So i'm going to try to pick up one used.
SiriusXification
Yes, go for used one, you can get it for third of a price of new one on eBay. I definitely recommend the headrest version. And, avoid leather.
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Why should one avoid leather? I was looking at getting a leather one.
Awesome review, I'm definitely sold on this chair. Thanks!!!
+Avinash Arora : My pleasure. Thank you
moogoogaipan1999 And in case you're wondering, I did end up buying this chair, and it's living up to expectation! :-)
*****
That is great news :D
+Avinash Arora Some people have said the chair feels flimsy. Others have mentioned there are tensioning mechanisms used to set the chair up before prolonged use. I imagine tightening these mechanisms would take a lot of that play out of the chair and mitigate the "flimsy" feel. Did you find your chair to be flimsy and if so, were you able to fix it?
PIK now that I've owned one for a little while, I can definitely say that for the price flimsy is an accurate term. I still love the chair but I had to repair it once and the arms no longer line up perfectly. overall still a great chair, but if I had to pay full price I probably would be annoyed.
From the chairs you tried, what would be the most comfortable in your opinion?
You own a lot of chairs ;) I'm looking to buy a new office chair and I was wondering which do you prefer out of the Herman Miller Embody, Humanscale Freedom and Ergohuman?
You can adjust the backrest tension with a screw under the seat.
Does it come fully assembled like all of Herman Miller chairs? Feels kind of comfortable? I want one that is comfortable, not kind of comfortable and stiff as you mention. I see your headrest is already sagging ripple of the material. That material did it crack and peel over time?
Hi, thanks for your review. If you want to choose between this chair and Steelcase Leap V2, which one would you choose, and why? Thanks in advance.
Do you find that you slide forward when you lean back on the leather? Is the headrest ever a hinderance?
Don't you think that the persons size makes a big difference on how comfortable a chair is? I'm about your size and have had an Obusforme for over 10 years but the seat is crumbling away and no one is interested in supplying any replacement! This has a high back and I have never like the headrest. I have been looking for reviews of the Freedom hence I arrived here.
Thank you very much for the other info
should i get a humanscaler freedom for 300 dollars or herman body embody for 750
That price is a straight punch to the loins. Although if I would have just spent the money in stead of going cheap I would not be shopping for another chair. I place my knees in the cheap chair I currently own like an idiot sitting backwards crouched style and leaned forward snapped the damn wheel off; just one wheel. The base is made of plastic and the cost of the chair is only 120 dollars; so yeah I went down hard.
Now I look for something made of metal or since I design things I may just create a chair cheaper than 3k. This chair is about the cost of my PC workstation and I break things often so I need something that last longer than a year and will not break with "mistreatment" (yeah let's call it mistreatment). I will be continuing my search because if I can find a chair that works and is good for the price then I will purch and allow that to be the end of it. Until it breaks and I finally design an office chair.
do you own this chair or were you given this chair to review it? do you like to collect expensive chairs (not that there's anything wrong with that - i may add a steelcase leap to accompany my herman miller embody).
man from philly I own the chair. I somewhat collect office equipment hahaha
this girl is so funny, love her way of speaking. tried this chair in person, and it's honestly just too stiff, doesn't feel very nice compared to the smaller (b) aeron. i have a dxracer (bad back support and claustrophobic sides) and steelcase amia (relies on replacing cushion every 3-4 month and bad tilt), leap chair is not uniform and it's gimmicky, only other chair i'd consider is hag capisco
Nice review! which one reclines back further, this one or the leap? Thanks
What chair do you think is better, the Ergohuman or Humanscale Freedom. I can not make up my mind...
Steve Rolston It really depends on your comfort and what you like. I like the lumbar of the Ergohuman and the price better than the Freedom. However, I like the padding, the feel, and the look of the Freedom much better. For my own unique tastes, I prefer the Freedom by a small margin. If you have a store you can check out the chairs, be sure to do so. One note about the Freedom though...the automatic headrest / back tilt adjustment can take some getting used to and can be a huge dealbreaker for some.
What is your favorite chair this one or the embody from Herman miller
This seems like the perfect dual-use chair: both for office work and, when reclined, for media viewing or gaming.
The Aeron is appealing, as is the Leap, but the lack of a headrest seems like a dealbreaker. Any others I should be considering?
+KrisAK : this is great for gaming. I prefer the embody and the leap, and actually I do not prefer using a head rest. You should definitely try the chairs out at a store if you can.
+KrisAK sat in one of these (sans headrest) more than five or six years ago to sell it on my ebay account for a friend who bought if from a storage unit sale for 25 bucks from someone who didn't realize what they had. I sat in it for almost 36 hours, maybe getting up to pee a couple of times, during the whole process of researching the thing and making the ad for it. At the end of the auction, I was really a bit heartbroken to see it go, because I felt not a single cramp or crimp at all and didn't even realize that much time had passed after pulling an all-nighter-day-nighter in it. I vowed to get one of my own someday to duplicate that week long experience of sitting in a chair that was that unnoticeable, and it has been at the top of my wish list ever since until I just ordered one TODAY because we found some money enough to make it happen at at last. Turns out that the tweeter my boyfriend found in the garbage 17 years ago was actually a really rare audiophile collectors item that he sold last month for more several thousand dollars, and he was determined that we buy something nice for ourselves that we would enjoy instead of just handing it over to the bills for once.
It is the day furniture equivalent of my Tempurpedic mattress, something you don't even know you are missing out on until you experience the alternative and then you realize that it is a luxury that you will get more out of life with every single day if you sit in an office chair as many hours as you spend in bed. I hadn't known that my getting up only once a night to pee or whatever was at all a kind of unrestful sleep until I learned what it was like to awaken after a proper uninterrupted cycle, and I no longer am slow to get out of bed because I am having more energy despite actually having shorter overall time in bed because I actually SLEEP WELL for the 4 to 6 hours on that mattress instead of just not quite getting to that deep rejuvenation while in bed for 7 hours or more on something else.
It's impossible to describe the difference between what I know now and hat I didn't know before I sat in one of these for a week. I knew exactly what I wouldn't ever regret spending some of that found money on, even if things got tight later.
It may not look like much, but I tell you, It's a damn good chair. I didn't even ever notice a lack of the headrest , but I would recommend the gel seat cushion vs the standard foam since I know it is like nothing I have ever not noticed before. I only think about the chair I am in when I am uncomfortable and have to move or adjust it. That chair never entered my mind at all until I had to let it go.
FWIW, my physiotherapist told me never ever to get a chair with a headrest. (Office chairs that only go to your lower back also suck though.)
Why is the headrest bad? I can see it might lead to bad habits elsewhere...leaning back and holding your arms out for extended periods of time to type. Did the therapist suggest other models for you to look at?
What's your favorite chair that you have reviewed to date?
My favorite chair is the Herman Miller Embody. But I use / rotate through three chairs on a daily / weekly basis. If I am eating food or doing something that might be messy, I will use the leather Steelcase Leap, as to not stain my Embody. Clients will sit and use the Freedom. I also use the Freedom when I am not working.
moogoogaipan1999 Thanks for the input. :) As you can see in my video here, I'll probably be looking for a new chair soon: Aeron Chair Quality & Customer Support Issues
phototristan: Eeeks! I am sorry to hear about your experience! If you want great customer service, I suggest Humanscale. I have used their warranty services before, and they have been great! Super fast, quick, easy to deal with. As for the other companies, I have not had any experiences with them.
Does this chair come in different materials? I prefer something breathable like the Embody.
Yes. It does come in different breathable materials
Thanks for your videos and your time.
Wow your like the Chair Goddess. Herman Miller, Steelcase, Humanscale, Ergohuman. Dont think there are very few people that can compare them all. =D
I have a Aeron I been sitting on for like 5 years. I kind of like it. But the Freedom looks bad ass. Mixed reviews on Amazon though, mostly build quality and comfort. Everyone complains about the head position. I am stuck between the Embody or Freedom though. We have 2 Aeron's and no complaints at all so I trust the Herman Miller brand. Wish I could sit in them in real life though.
So how would you you, Chair Goddess, rank your favorite chairs from first to last?
Hahahaha! Thanks. Yeah, so from first to last, Herman Miller, Steel case, Humanscale, Ergohuman. Ergohuman the least because it hurt my thighs after some time due to hard padding.
+moogoogaipan1999
Thanks! I went to Relax The Back and tried the Freedom. felt very flimsy. I saw this new bad ass chair called the "Vaya" by Positive Posture. I really really dig it. The downside is the price....$3000... but the guy that designed the Ferrari Enzo designed it so, I guess. I be curious to see what you think.
Thank you.
Hi, which one is your favourite chair so far?
PLAYAMANGO The embody
*****
: For me, it was the back support. The embody gave me better back support and I was less fatigued after 8hrs. But each person is different. Whatever you choose, as long as it fits you well. Cheers.
+Christopher Hayden I sat in the freedom for more than 36 hours and didn't even realize how long it had been. It was so comfortable I may have even fallen asleep in it for a while, and didn't even have a kink or cramp at all. Felt completely great and alert and never had to adjust anything at all. I've wanted one of my own ever since and that was more than five years ago that I got to use it for a week while listing it on auction at ebay for my friend. Was loathe to hand it over after it was done, I tell you...
Finally ordered a refurbished one this morning and am very sure I will find it a shame I didn't scare up the cash to do it sooner once it arrives. The fact that I spent so much time in it and never even got distracted by a pressure point that whole week - I've never noticed a chair that I spent so long NOT noticing it, due to the fact that the only time you think about the chair you're sitting in is because its making you uncomfortable enough to think about it. Now I notice the fact that I never had to notice it at all...
I miss that.
+Christopher Hayden How do you like your embody so far?
Its my favorite so far!ZioComposite
Can I work with my laptop on my lap in this chair, comfortably?
Claus Bertels Perhaps...but I would suggest the embody
NZXT PHANTOM IN THE CORNER?
Hi, great review, I wanted to ask, is the headrest detachable?
+Alex Aristodemou : I don't think so
+moogoogaipan1999 Hi, does this chair have a lock to stop it tilting back when relaxing? thanks
+Alex Aristodemou : I don't believe so.
what about the ergoHuman u changed be cause it sucks?
I found that the fabric sags and the chair creaks a lot unfortunately. My just be my chair however.
Wanted to like this chair, but the zero adjustability for leaning back ruined that for me. Whether it would be a locking, or tension mechanism, not having either meant it was way too easy for me to lean back and a chore to stay up straight. Sure, it stems from how we tend to sit in a chair, throwing all our weight on the backrest...but I guess the chair doesn't seem built for different weight groups in that way.
MooTaters Another comment mentions a bolt beneath the chair for adjusting recline tension.
Well, I guess that salesman didn't know what he was talking about then. That or he just knew there wasn't something easily adjustable like a knob for the hand.
MooTaters yes but does the tension stop it completely? I feel like it would just move too much , it's a killer for me
@@kamasu4222 the tension stops it. I like this chair and even the gel seat. I remember thinking this would be my perfect chair and for working when reclined, it's very good. However, I wish it had a synchro tilt where the seat reclined too but at a lower ratio to the back. The seats feel hard but supportive, which I used to thinking was necessary for ergo chairs but the Steelcase Gesture or Leap aren't so firm. It's a great chair in many ways but I felt that for the money it should be perfect. I prefer the Gesture with headrest and the HM Embody. I believe this lady prefers the Embody too. I'd also be unlikely to buy the Freedom new. I've seen quite a few on offer lightly used for big discounts. It's well built so there's not a huge risk in buying a used one.
Extreme Demon?
yes
Good
Seat doesnt tilt with back rest. Massive dealbreaker, and maybe the only. Any experience with BodyBuilt? Ohhhhhhhhh!!!! BodyBuilt rules!
what a top lad x
This is a chair review, not Tinder lol.
@@Nigel__ thanks for staying the obvious mr panther
She's a cutie
he..it's a guy
@@vorjay nope
This chair is the biggest waste of money. If you love back pain, then get this chair. Otherwise steer clear
Ouch, wouldn't hurt to adjust your white balance before shooting! :)
2:57 That's not ergonomic position. Pull your shoulders back, push your chest front. Align your head with that. This is a shit chair. You may feel good now but you'll develop back problems in time.
What makes this a "shit chair”?
@@Nigel__ Click on that timestamp and read again. It can't be explained more simple than that.
@@bestopinion9257 Her ergonomic positioning at that particular time in the video doesn’t make this a shit chair.
@@Nigel__ How so? This is how you sit on it no matter the angle. I had that chair. It does not let you sit correctly.
You can't pull your shoulders back and fit in the chair.
@@bestopinion9257i have this chair, i have really wide shoulders for my height (5ft 8) and i am around 210 pounds and i can retract my shoulder blades just fine. You just dont like the chair so you need to come on here and complain