the building just feels like its going to be the first few ones to fall during an earthquake or strong winds. Its got a mass dampener but the creaking and swaying would be really scary ngl
NOPE, NOPE, NOPE! I Watched a video of how much this ridiculously ugly building sways in the wind, and it made want to throw up... I also have massive fear of heights, especially when I'm surrounded by glass... 🤮
Omg me too! I have a massive fear of heights, and would NEVER want to live in a 1,000+ foot building, made of mostly glass, that sways in the wind... It literally makes my stomach lurch. And WTF do they do if there is a fire, especially below the penthouse 1,500 feet up? Do they have parachutes? Hang gliders? Also, how the f much do the window washers make cleaning the windows of a 1,600 foot glass building? It literally makes me want to throw up..
I was there when we built it, it swayed so much we had to use special levels, the elevator would just stop whenever it wanted...nice view tho, I'm here now fixing stuff lol
What exactly can you fix now? The structure and design is just wrong. You can't turn few screws and stop the sway, with time everything will get weaker and fall in the end. The best they can do is to cut 3 quarters of the building.
I read in many places that the elevators still stop working frequently, and when someone drops a bag of trash down the chute, it sounds like a bomb hitting the place.
A building inspired by a " waste paper basket". "The address sounds like a countdown 432.., they are trying to tell us that something bad is gonna happen" Hahahahahahaha. Good video.
Interesting that you didnt mention the tuned-mass damper in the top of the building. You'd think that with the mechanical floors, AND the tuned mass damper, you wouldn't have much issues with sway... but here we are..
Makes no sense to me. Why would the upper half be made of concrete?! That's just asking for trouble. Concrete is not meant to flex so of course the roof would be cracked in a billion places. What drinking team designed this building?
The building is no danger of toppling over. The issues with the building have nothing to do with how skinny it is or how tall it is.. well they DO have everything to do with it but because the subcontractors cut corners and did shoddy work, not because of inherent flaw in how supertall and super skinny buildings are. Other supertall condos don't have the same problems as 432 Park Avenue...
Mark thanks for the comment, I like my Properties and especially my primary residence to be a safe investment it’s not where I would want to volunteer to be the Guinea pig for the newest civil engineering technology and or breakthrough. This elevated ratio of base to height I. The skyscrapers is a new Phenomenon at least in the US. Hope that clears my view
@A. V. yeah, they all sway but it's not noticeable when you live there AND pipes are not bursting and elevators aren't getting stuck and no crazy noises either
@@ArvinHaddadOfficial I don't think the issue is pioneering tech as much as it is shoddy construction. So, yes, definitely NOT a good investment in that particular building but doesn't mean that other supertall buildings are equally unsafe. That being said, I don't think NYC, as a market in general, is safe. We are sliding back to 1990s in terms of lawlessness and financial problems.
@A. V. I worked in the original WTC on the 79th floor... you don't feel it's swaying. You can see it when winds are high and you look out of the window against another building wall..and then you can actually see it moving. Anyways, i would NOT buy an apartment there. Sounds like they cut a lot of corners and some of it is structural and could not be fixed. It would need to lose 50%+ of its value to become attractive.
@A. V. No... it fell because the steel load-bearing beams weren't coated in asbestos or it's alternative. They banned asbestos as the building went up and they just left them unprotected and the fire softened them until they buckled. I am not claiming WTC didn't sway. It did! I am just saying it's not noticeable when you are inside... .certainly no stuck elevators, bursting pipes or crazy noises.
I heard that the apartments under the windbreaks get free pots and pans to catch all the water leaks when it rains ! We're not talking cheap pots and pans we're talking top of the line pots and pans )!
Am I the only one not really feeling too bad about this? I'm not one of those "eat the rich" types but something about the rich defrauding the rich makes me giggle a little. I wonder if these same people invested in Theranos?
People who feel good about the misfortune of others, with the excuse that they have a better life than you, (because they ain't a millionaire, cause money is the only thing that can make happy this miserable people)should start going to therapy.
There are definitely rich people who are not good people, but most rich people I have met have inspired me not by their wealth but by their domineer, kindness, character and their willingness to help me grow
Ok, the building is a tube in (let's call it a) tube kind of structure. As an architect, It seems to me that there's a bad (or no good enough) connection between those tubes vertically (like shear walls or diagrid) and that's what's making it sway so much. I also understand that skyscrapers must be elastic, but in this case, it seems that it's all about developers greed and making open floor plans, neglecting safety. I'm not a civil engeneer so I'm interested: what do you think about that? PS Nevertheless I like the design of this building more than other superslims on the same street.
Although the holes are needed to keep it from swaying too much, I admit it does offer variety to the NY skyline. It's not every day you see a skyscraper poked full of holes!
If I had that kind of money, I'd rather have a place at the other super-tall, the gorgeous 111 W 57th St, known as the Steinberg building. It succeeds where 432 Park totally fails. I can find no complaints about excessive sway or noise in 111 W 57th St, and it has a gorgeous indoor swim pool., which 432 Park lacks. The 432 Park building just seems to have too many built-in, incurable defects while the other building seems to be extremely well-designed and its residents find it very comfortable. Search it out and look at the photos- it's dazzling.
It's interesting that this building is such a disaster while the other famous new super-tall residential, the beautiful 111 W 57th St building, is so successful and succeeds where 432 Park fails. I have looked, and haven't seen any complaints about 111 W57th, which is a truly beautiful building with superb amenities, which 432 Park lacks. I mean, if you want someone to pay tens to hundreds of millions of $$ for an apartment, could you at least throw in an indoor pool? 111 W 57th has a gorgeous indoor swimming pool, while 432 Park has none.
Even if I was a billionaire I wouldn't want to live there. I would feel really unsafe. Looks too skinny and unstable. Plus the building is an eye-sore.
I'd rather buy something that has been standing and performed well over a couple of decades, myself. In any case, anyone with the kind of money it takes to buy into this place, has so many choices that it's hard to understand why they'd choose this place.
Should have got the Chinese or Arabs to build it. American developers have so many issues. There were issues with the Millennium Tower in San Francisco too. In Saudi Arabia and China their buildings are so much solid.
@@ArvinHaddadOfficial You know about 432 Park Avenue in Manhattan? Its also have serious issues. That's why I think the Arabs and the Chinese are the best builders.
@@cristibaluta actually Chinese are the best builders if you can afford them. You pay for what you get in China. If you are cheap and pay for cheap things you get bad things.. in America if you pay for expensive things it doesn't make your product better than the cheap things. Chinese buildings are more reliable than American buildings. Big cities in China don't have issues like the ones in America. So cannot think bad about the Chinese just because western media attack them because of racial issues.
You are totally wrong. airplane wing is carefully planned to deflect yet be light and aerodynamically efficient. But a building is not supposed to sway and drifted such that elevators get stuck or plumbing hoses thorn out to leak and all that under a day by day winds speed.
@@hawaiianprestigecars8493 I doubt that will happen BUT I do think that one of these pencil neck skyscrapers will crack so badly in the middle that they'll have to evacuate all the tenants and it'll be stuck with repair work for a few long months...
432 will be one of those rare rare situations where the lower floors are actually more expensive
Lower level but still with a park view
the building just feels like its going to be the first few ones to fall during an earthquake or strong winds. Its got a mass dampener but the creaking and swaying would be really scary ngl
ya I'm not a fan of creaking and swaying
NOPE, NOPE, NOPE! I Watched a video of how much this ridiculously ugly building sways in the wind, and it made want to throw up... I also have massive fear of heights, especially when I'm surrounded by glass... 🤮
Man I'm glad I saw this! I was just about to buy the penthouse.
Don’t mention it
Me too
😂
The thought of living in that match stick of a building 1000ft up gives me a panic attack.
The views are great if you don't get dizzy
I bed even halfway up, it would feel like it's swaying in the wind. It's just fugly. I wouldn't pay even $1 million to live in that thing.
Omg me too! I have a massive fear of heights, and would NEVER want to live in a 1,000+ foot building, made of mostly glass, that sways in the wind... It literally makes my stomach lurch.
And WTF do they do if there is a fire, especially below the penthouse 1,500 feet up?
Do they have parachutes? Hang gliders?
Also, how the f much do the window washers make cleaning the windows of a 1,600 foot glass building? It literally makes me want to throw up..
@@wiscogirl81 fire? The Towering Inferno
I'm just amazed so many well-educated, wealthy people fell for this. Even I knew this thing was nutz.
I was there when we built it, it swayed so much we had to use special levels, the elevator would just stop whenever it wanted...nice view tho, I'm here now fixing stuff lol
Wow
What exactly can you fix now? The structure and design is just wrong. You can't turn few screws and stop the sway, with time everything will get weaker and fall in the end. The best they can do is to cut 3 quarters of the building.
I read in many places that the elevators still stop working frequently, and when someone drops a bag of trash down the chute, it sounds like a bomb hitting the place.
@@cristibaluta it's made to sway that much... that's the problem, it's doing what they asked
A building inspired by a " waste paper basket". "The address sounds like a countdown 432.., they are trying to tell us that something bad is gonna happen" Hahahahahahaha. Good video.
Thank you 😂
Freudian slips: manifestations of a mind with a guilty conscience
Interesting that you didnt mention the tuned-mass damper in the top of the building. You'd think that with the mechanical floors, AND the tuned mass damper, you wouldn't have much issues with sway... but here we are..
Tuned mass dampers dramatically reduce sway but do not eliminate it completely.
Didn’t know thanks for sharing
Interesting
You also forgot to mention that the crazy guy trying to sell that penthouse for $169 million bought it for HALF the price. He's lost his mind...
I know like no one know what’s going on with the building
There is a video of a dude walking the top of the building and the concrete is cracked every 3 feet! LMFAO
Makes no sense to me. Why would the upper half be made of concrete?! That's just asking for trouble. Concrete is not meant to flex so of course the roof would be cracked in a billion places. What drinking team designed this building?
What is there a link you can share?
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To be honest i really like how it looks like, but you said it so well, if it looks wrong for the eyes it probably is.
The building is no danger of toppling over. The issues with the building have nothing to do with how skinny it is or how tall it is.. well they DO have everything to do with it but because the subcontractors cut corners and did shoddy work, not because of inherent flaw in how supertall and super skinny buildings are. Other supertall condos don't have the same problems as 432 Park Avenue...
Mark thanks for the comment, I like my Properties and especially my primary residence to be a safe investment it’s not where I would want to volunteer to be the Guinea pig for the newest civil engineering technology and or breakthrough. This elevated ratio of base to height I. The skyscrapers is a new Phenomenon at least in the US. Hope that clears my view
@A. V. yeah, they all sway but it's not noticeable when you live there AND pipes are not bursting and elevators aren't getting stuck and no crazy noises either
@@ArvinHaddadOfficial I don't think the issue is pioneering tech as much as it is shoddy construction. So, yes, definitely NOT a good investment in that particular building but doesn't mean that other supertall buildings are equally unsafe. That being said, I don't think NYC, as a market in general, is safe. We are sliding back to 1990s in terms of lawlessness and financial problems.
@A. V. I worked in the original WTC on the 79th floor... you don't feel it's swaying. You can see it when winds are high and you look out of the window against another building wall..and then you can actually see it moving. Anyways, i would NOT buy an apartment there. Sounds like they cut a lot of corners and some of it is structural and could not be fixed. It would need to lose 50%+ of its value to become attractive.
@A. V. No... it fell because the steel load-bearing beams weren't coated in asbestos or it's alternative. They banned asbestos as the building went up and they just left them unprotected and the fire softened them until they buckled. I am not claiming WTC didn't sway. It did! I am just saying it's not noticeable when you are inside... .certainly no stuck elevators, bursting pipes or crazy noises.
I heard that the apartments under the windbreaks get free pots and pans to catch all the water leaks when it rains ! We're not talking cheap pots and pans we're talking top of the line pots and pans )!
Am I the only one not really feeling too bad about this? I'm not one of those "eat the rich" types but something about the rich defrauding the rich makes me giggle a little. I wonder if these same people invested in Theranos?
People who feel good about the misfortune of others, with the excuse that they have a better life than you, (because they ain't a millionaire, cause money is the only thing that can make happy this miserable people)should start going to therapy.
@@abi1 idk with the rich causing the majority of suffering on the planet they definitely deserve it
@@circleinforthecube5170 read “Basic Economics” by Thomas Sowell. You’ll learn that “The Rich” don’t cause most of the world”s problems.
I like the ascent of money have you read that?
There are definitely rich people who are not good people, but most rich people I have met have inspired me not by their wealth but by their domineer, kindness, character and their willingness to help me grow
It’s ugly. Doesn’t surprise me it’s was inspired by a trash can.
It’s a like the architect played a joke on us
Its like pre ordering a new and exciting innovative video game based on hype and then it sucks and you are out $70!
I like that analogy 😂
Not only is it a real eye-sore, but a good handful of units there are just investment pieces, never lived in..
Where foreign dirty money is invested.
They pay taxes. That's good for the city
You can’t argue with that
I read someon that wasn’t sure if it was this building
Owner occupied building are better I agree
Actually the building is unique and looks very good - I wish they did a REAL job on all the details. Swaying noises is nobody's cup of tea.
Looks good??
Ok, the building is a tube in (let's call it a) tube kind of structure. As an architect, It seems to me that there's a bad (or no good enough) connection between those tubes vertically (like shear walls or diagrid) and that's what's making it sway so much. I also understand that skyscrapers must be elastic, but in this case, it seems that it's all about developers greed and making open floor plans, neglecting safety. I'm not a civil engeneer so I'm interested: what do you think about that?
PS Nevertheless I like the design of this building more than other superslims on the same street.
When is the last time anyone ever saw the top of a waste paper basket taller than most everything else in the entire surrounding neighborhood?
I absolutely love the way the building looks!
I love the views
get help and leave the country
Although the holes are needed to keep it from swaying too much, I admit it does offer variety to the NY skyline. It's not every day you see a skyscraper poked full of holes!
I have no empathy for them whatsoever.
This building has a peculiar problem, because it sway so much the water from the toilet seats flushes out on the floor. Funny.
OMG that is a lot of Sway, i did not know that, thanks for sharing
*Yes, it happens. So what? At least we’re flooding in luxury.*
I highly doubt that
Great vidio keep up the great work
thanks for the support, sure will
great video!!
@@alejandroareiza5404 thank you 🙏🏼
He is telling us that trash 🗑️ living in there lol 😂
Great video as always
Fiifi thanks for your support and being here from the start
Is it though? That was some hyper dramatic sassy whining. And it was kind of a super waste of time.
Nevertheless I still love this building, and I would purchase one of its apartments if I had the resources.
How about 111
If I had that kind of money, I'd rather have a place at the other super-tall, the gorgeous 111 W 57th St, known as the Steinberg building. It succeeds where 432 Park totally fails. I can find no complaints about excessive sway or noise in 111 W 57th St, and it has a gorgeous indoor swim pool., which 432 Park lacks. The 432 Park building just seems to have too many built-in, incurable defects while the other building seems to be extremely well-designed and its residents find it very comfortable. Search it out and look at the photos- it's dazzling.
It's interesting that this building is such a disaster while the other famous new super-tall residential, the beautiful 111 W 57th St building, is so successful and succeeds where 432 Park fails. I have looked, and haven't seen any complaints about 111 W57th, which is a truly beautiful building with superb amenities, which 432 Park lacks. I mean, if you want someone to pay tens to hundreds of millions of $$ for an apartment, could you at least throw in an indoor pool? 111 W 57th has a gorgeous indoor swimming pool, while 432 Park has none.
I have to agree, its a shame. I also haven't heard anything negative come out of 111 W 57Th st
One UGLY building! Ugh! 🤢
Of course a building that high sways with the wind. No thanks!!!
Ya and the elevators get stuck
Is there any chance the building will need to be torn down?
You can look at that bldg and tell it was problematic. SMH. A fool and their money 😂
432 PA is great building
I’m glad you like it, have you seen my newer videos
But Why Park Ave.?
Once Beautiful
Ted Mosby needs to see this
Hahahaha
Fantastic architecture. Love it.
glad you like it
Just add more dampeners in the open levels - on every level not only the top or did the profit went out of the window with this solution
You think it can be added at this point in time?
In my opinion, the 432 park avenue looks like a cheap copy of the 2 wtc
Interesting what do you think of 111
If someone took out a risky loan to buy a place here, I sympathize. But for the ones to just bought a unit as a parking space for capital... :D :D :D
As far as I know it’s still for sale.😏
ya thats what i hear
Even if I was a billionaire I wouldn't want to live there. I would feel really unsafe. Looks too skinny and unstable. Plus the building is an eye-sore.
I wouldn’t either, I would purchase a proven building
I'd rather buy something that has been standing and performed well over a couple of decades, myself. In any case, anyone with the kind of money it takes to buy into this place, has so many choices that it's hard to understand why they'd choose this place.
hope they tear it down it's a eye sore on the skyline
If it ever becomes a safety concern they probably would
@@ArvinHaddadOfficial Isn't it already a safety concern?
So basically the building is NYCs next biggest disaster
A made by design 9-11 on the horizon?
Have you seen 111
I was gonna buy a apartment here. Thank god I didn’t.
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Kind of a waste of a video. Said he would mention a few of the biggest problems out of the 1500 and literally only said one
in hong kong all the tall buildings are pencil thin.
Yes I stayed at a hotel there and it had 4 small studio on each floor 😂
Envy silently😂
I don’t envy I don’t think ur familiar with my videos
Should have got the Chinese or Arabs to build it. American developers
have so many issues. There were issues with the Millennium Tower in San
Francisco too. In Saudi Arabia and China their buildings are so much
solid.
Millennium tower is sinking right? Have you seen my new videos?
@@ArvinHaddadOfficial You know about 432 Park Avenue in Manhattan? Its also have serious issues. That's why I think the Arabs and the Chinese are the best builders.
Lol, i wouldn't live in something built by the chinese
@@cristibaluta actually Chinese are the best builders if you can afford them. You pay for what you get in China. If you are cheap and pay for cheap things you get bad things.. in America if you pay for expensive things it doesn't make your product better than the cheap things. Chinese buildings are more reliable than American buildings. Big cities in China don't have issues like the ones in America. So cannot think bad about the Chinese just because western media attack them because of racial issues.
$250,000 isn't actually that much in the scheme of normal lawsuits against the builder of such a high rise building. But those issues....wow.
It’s actually $250M my friend not $250,000
Ever see how thin jet airplane's wing is? Maybe it looks wrong to you because you don't know how it works! Engineering shows how to do things better!
You are totally wrong. airplane wing is carefully planned to deflect yet be light and aerodynamically efficient. But a building is not supposed to sway and drifted such that elevators get stuck or plumbing hoses thorn out to leak and all that under a day by day winds speed.
I have to agree if the elevators get stuck then something wasn’t calculated right
Woooww
And All That Money!
Lol
How is 111 holding up? Does anyone know?
lots of problems as well.
I am calling it one day if the right conditions are met one is gonna topppe
@@hawaiianprestigecars8493 I doubt that will happen BUT I do think that one of these pencil neck skyscrapers will crack so badly in the middle that they'll have to evacuate all the tenants and it'll be stuck with repair work for a few long months...
@@largol33t1 It happened before.
I think they don't calculate with the worst conditions.
If these are met it's a disaster waiting to happen.
Have you seen similar skyscrapers in Hong Kong? I stayed at hotel there that had 4 small bedrooms per floor, it looked even skinnier than this
Has anyone moved in yet?
*So what? I still live here and don’t care if the building topples over - at least I’ll topple over in comfort.*
Jew
@@blitzy3244 what does that mean
In some ways I think lower levels with still good views are better
I want my five minutes back. A lot of weird complaining & hardly any facts & info. Ps calm down.
Facts are more effective than dramatics.
Thanks 🙏🏼 for the feed back have you seen the newer videos ?
Talking too much but saying so little.
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Your videos are so annoying. You spend half the time telling the viewers to stick to the end in a 4 minute long video? Is this some sort of a joke?
i know... you are jealous....little poor man.
you must be new to the channel
To my eye balls this is one of the most beautiful buildings in the solar system.
You need new glasses.
iam entitled to my opinion. dont pass nonsense comments
What do you like about it? How different it is from all the other buildings around it? Size of the windows? Can you be more specific?
Fools
ridiculous content
Have you seen the new stuff?
Disliked. Ridiculous video
Is this the illegitimate son of jay leno ???
Hahaha There is only one way to find out 😂 🧬