I always agreed with Brad, even if it was partially to cope with his trauma and 'selfish', him defending Buddy is morally justified, even if everyone (even Buddy herself) disagrees with him. Buddy IS just a kid, she couldn't even begin to understand what her life would have been like if Brad didn't protect her. She would have been raped constantly even as a kid and forced to give birth for the rest of life, which is an absolutely horrific fate, some people argue that sacrificing one person to save humanity is worth it, but the world of Lisa The Painful is an apocalyptic wasteland, there is nothing there that would be worth sacrificing Buddy, bringing more people into such a world would be pointless, maybe humanity dying out there is best
Wasn't expecting Undertale music in a LTP video, and even less that it would actually be pretty fitting knowing how drastically different the two games are from each other.
Oh my God... And I thought everyone forgot about this amazing game... I mean, the emotions it gives are amazing. Even the ending... I was crying when Brad was forced to kill his party members... I tried to reach the least painful ending for Brad saving him both arms, choosing for Buddy to hug him in the end... But my efforts were not enough to stop the pain itself. Lisa is all about the pain... And this is what makes this story unique for me... R. I. P. Bradley Armstrong (even though physically he is still alive)... You were the most tragic example of a father figure I have ever witnessed...
Brad did nothing wrong. He was entirely right the entire time. I will die on this hill. Also, you MONSTER for choosing to not go for the hug. How dare you.
@@nj_______ Even then it would be useless. The second generation would already be inbred. You cannot bring back an entire species with only one woman. It would literally be impossible. Even Cheetahs, the probably most inbred species in earth, needed 7 to bounce back. And now all Cheetahs remaining on earth are cousins.
>game is called lisa the painful >people are surprised that it's story is sad crazy anyways, glad to see you covering this. love your omori videos and the fact you also made some on one of my other favorite games is nice.
Personally im ok with Lisa: The Joyful. I think it served its dual purpose very well - it was simultaneously "more of the first" while also being a more direct answer to what happened in Painful for those of us who didnt quite get what was going on. I like to akin it to Hotline Miami and its respective sequel, serving to be more direct with the player about irs story and providing more official game play
if you guys are interested in a more well-refined sequel to Lisa: the Painful, Lisa: The Undone came out not too long ago!! it's a reimagining of Joyful and recreates the entire first half of the game, with more thoughtful combat and more optional party members. head over to gamejolt if you wanna give it a shot :D
I like undone a lot but it’s a totally different story to what joyful is. Maybe that’s for better or worse, but I would definitely not compare them both outside of the broad strokes. I’d argue undone is more of a Rando / Olathe centered mod given how little Buddy being the last girl drives the plot.
I think Austin’s biggest pitfall with this games writing is how buddy seems attached to Marty versus how she sees almost everyone else during joyful. It’s impossible to imagine buddy saying Marty was a better father than Brad ever was even despite all the beer outside the cave showing the contrary, it’s just one vice versus the other, but Brad most likely chooses to continue to try and do good by Buddy. I don’t get the Marty stuff in painful at all and I feel like it just sits as a blemish on what is otherwise a captivating story. It definitely feels like Austin wanted Brad to be a morally grey character. But when he tries to juxtapose how Buddy saw Brad vs how she saw Marty it feels just wrong. I love this game but that part has always been a sore spot for me. Maybe I’ve just always been more sympathetic to Brad as a character than most people, but it just feels like sometimes (especially involving Buddy and Brad) it felt like it was hatred upon hatred that seemed very unwarranted in the story that unfortunately follows painful.
I thought it was dumb how sticky presented himself to Brad like he did something to buddy, even though he never did. I guess he’s just provocative? I think Brad is right to be worried to an extent but still
@@bossdoor my guess is unreliable narrator fuckery involving Brad and the slow effects of joy mutation. Since Buddy is much younger than Brad with I would assume the joy wouldn’t take long to have a far more potent effect on her like we see in joyful and all of the visual hallucinations. VS Brad I would argue it’s likely a lot of what he hears or sees from people could be effects of the Joy taking over. Brad still has hallucinations involving Joy but they’re all tied to Lisa and his trauma, so Buddy and Sticky saying things to allude to Buddy’s rape by sticky could possibly be chalked up to Brads mind simply assuming the worst or making things up based on what he KNOWS happened to Lisa, and what he fears could happen to Buddy. He doesn’t want to fail to protect Lisa again, it’s something I think definitive editions secret final boss demonstrates wonderfully and it’s one of the few genuine improvements to the games
Well, that's because Marty, like Brad, is a man who's attempting to make up for the wrongs he did in the past. Marty's not over his addictions much like Brad, so bottles are expected. but the cave scene made clear that she didn't even know what joy was thanks to her closed-off lifestyle, and Marty even tells her not to take them while Brad asks for her to look away when confronted with it. Buddy's also likely going through puberty around the time that the events in the game are taking place so unstable emotions are commonplace.
Honestly I like Joyful overall (pre definitive edition) But it is kinda funny how Austin managed to fail at making Joyful better than Painful twice. But I will admit I think I like Joyfuls “potential” more than the substance the warlords are interesting and could’ve gotten more screen time and Rando is my favorite character period. If only someone respected in the fandom made a fangame that elaborates on Joyful (Go play Redisco’s Undone part 1 it is super good)
Tbf I really wonder about the post credit scene at the end with brad cause it just shows him strolling up to buddy I assume maybe the developer put it in their with the dlc in mind; but without it your left thinking a joy mutant brad is getting close to a sleeping buddy who has a sword and idk it just leaves to many questions in my mind. Like I get the dlc wasn’t the best and I feel it would have done better as a full game instead of a dlc but at least it doesn’t leave on such and ambiguous cliff hanger. Or maybe this game has made me crazy who knows
Loved the video, but i think there's one thing that would make it better. When you've put "Undertale" over the fight where Brad massacres Rando's army, the song should've progressively gotten more distorted and eerie, to symbolize that Brad is losing his last bits of humanity, his precious memories are being twisted into animalistic instincts and desire to kill, and he's quickly stepping towards his doom. This would've made the scene hit much harder.
Bro I swear to god I have this blessing/curse where shit randomly gets updated, or something of interest happens to a game that I fucking play. I literally just started playing Lisa and got past the first boss, weird child demon thing. And now a UA-camr i follow uploads about the fucking game, lmao
So I just watched this, idc much for spoilers. But man wtf this ending sucks :( I get the whole thing of this game is to be dark and horrible but man this makes me mad I want him to have a good end :(
Life is cruel… Sometimes a man get nothing in return even though he offers blood sweat and tears. In a world without women… Who are we? Man this game is making my brain hurt.
bro playing undertale music at the climax is wild I hate how this game is constantly compared to undertale despite being released a year before it. Lisa has good emotional tracks too just seems lame to keep jumping to a game that is more popular with a significantly lamer story and trope characters
Hey, can you please start crediting the artists you use in your thumbnails? I've wanted to check out a few of the artists you've featured but I can't ever find their original works because of the editing done.
First of all, just wanted to say thank you for remembering me, Boss Door. It means a lot. Your editing is very well-done and your humor combined with your monotone voice makes for a fabulous watch! Now, I'm about to criticize Lisa the Painful heavily as I have discovered that I don't like this game very much, but this is in no way criticism directed towards you. I think you're a very good creator! I just don't like the game and have decided to add to the conversation, even though no one asked. 1. Brad's dad and Buddy's relationship...is not great. She's just a kid, sure, but why would she say that Marty did a better job taking care of her than Brad ever did? He [Marty] CLEARLY didn't do a great job, what with the blue Joy pills, the alcohol, the cave, and whatnot. Maybe she just said that to hurt him, but that's unnecessarily cruel. 2. How did Brad completely annihilate his father and the army? Is he magic?? Did the Joy mutate him? Or just "video game logic"? 3. Trans erasure. The apocalypse wiped out all flora/fawna and women, right? But trans MEN exist. Testosterone is not a form of birth control (although some trans men cannot/don't wanna go on T, and that's fine, too) (continued in reply to this comment)
-And if the logic is that they were wiped out, too, then that's bullshit. Plus intersex people exist as well. (3) 4. Who are we cheering for? Brad means well, but like you said, his methods are barbaric. Buddy's just a kid in a fucked-up world with very little hope. And humanity...absolutely does not deserve to be redeemed or repopulated at ALL. Are we just an omnipotent character watching a tragedy where no one wins? Because the latter is the only "good" option, and those kind of stories are too dark and drawn-out FOR MY TASTES. Anyway, that's my take on Lisa the Painful. These are just my personal opinions and yours may be different from mine. Can't wait to see more content from you (ESPECIALLY In Stars and Time
@@Asm0d3u5While Marty might’ve changed in the time he spent away from Brad. As seen by him actually telling Buddy to NOT consume joy. A hadoken esc fire is still a fireball.
Have to be honest… Haven’t watched your videos for a long period, however this video is an indication of how much you have developed not just as a youtuber but also as a person. It is beautiful to see.
Bro, the joke at 2:10 is in really, *really* poor taste. You dont need to resort to racist edgelord humor to make people laugh. I know you can do better than that.
That's LITERALLY the sfx that played during the cutscene, like it plays a monkey noise during salvation blacks intro, like it's followed up with "No Race Jokes please"
You need an editor for your scripts, unless you're misreading the correct words. "Vapid" is straight up incorrect in the context given, and I'm sure you mean "depraved" instead of "deprived."
0:06 “And as you progress through the story, it becomes increasingly obvious that 95.6% of my audience isn’t subscribed.”
A fate worse than death
I literally finished both games today, watched your videos while on a long bus ride and right before I go to sleep you release a new one
Appreciate that. Feel free to sub :)
As soul crushingly sad Lisa the painful is it's also one of the many reasons why it's my favorite indie games.
I always agreed with Brad, even if it was partially to cope with his trauma and 'selfish', him defending Buddy is morally justified, even if everyone (even Buddy herself) disagrees with him. Buddy IS just a kid, she couldn't even begin to understand what her life would have been like if Brad didn't protect her. She would have been raped constantly even as a kid and forced to give birth for the rest of life, which is an absolutely horrific fate, some people argue that sacrificing one person to save humanity is worth it, but the world of Lisa The Painful is an apocalyptic wasteland, there is nothing there that would be worth sacrificing Buddy, bringing more people into such a world would be pointless, maybe humanity dying out there is best
Wasn't expecting Undertale music in a LTP video, and even less that it would actually be pretty fitting knowing how drastically different the two games are from each other.
People say that the saddest thing to happen to somebody named Brad is them peaking in highschool
Those people have never played lisa the painful
Oh my God... And I thought everyone forgot about this amazing game... I mean, the emotions it gives are amazing. Even the ending... I was crying when Brad was forced to kill his party members... I tried to reach the least painful ending for Brad saving him both arms, choosing for Buddy to hug him in the end... But my efforts were not enough to stop the pain itself. Lisa is all about the pain... And this is what makes this story unique for me... R. I. P. Bradley Armstrong (even though physically he is still alive)... You were the most tragic example of a father figure I have ever witnessed...
Brad did nothing wrong.
He was entirely right the entire time.
I will die on this hill.
Also, you MONSTER for choosing to not go for the hug. How dare you.
Fr 100% facts
I know that shes the future
But shes still a kid
At least wait until shes a woman
@@nj_______ Even then it would be useless. The second generation would already be inbred. You cannot bring back an entire species with only one woman.
It would literally be impossible. Even Cheetahs, the probably most inbred species in earth, needed 7 to bounce back. And now all Cheetahs remaining on earth are cousins.
The construction site
Brad was wrong, and he wasn’t a good man. But he earned that hug
"Today is the day I live." That goes unbelievably hard
>game is called lisa the painful
>people are surprised that it's story is sad
crazy
anyways, glad to see you covering this.
love your omori videos and the fact you also made some on one of my other favorite games is nice.
Appreciate you :)
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Lisa the painful
*looks inside*
Pain
Personally im ok with Lisa: The Joyful. I think it served its dual purpose very well - it was simultaneously "more of the first" while also being a more direct answer to what happened in Painful for those of us who didnt quite get what was going on. I like to akin it to Hotline Miami and its respective sequel, serving to be more direct with the player about irs story and providing more official game play
if you guys are interested in a more well-refined sequel to Lisa: the Painful, Lisa: The Undone came out not too long ago!! it's a reimagining of Joyful and recreates the entire first half of the game, with more thoughtful combat and more optional party members. head over to gamejolt if you wanna give it a shot :D
I plan on it
I like undone a lot but it’s a totally different story to what joyful is. Maybe that’s for better or worse, but I would definitely not compare them both outside of the broad strokes. I’d argue undone is more of a Rando / Olathe centered mod given how little Buddy being the last girl drives the plot.
I think Austin’s biggest pitfall with this games writing is how buddy seems attached to Marty versus how she sees almost everyone else during joyful. It’s impossible to imagine buddy saying Marty was a better father than Brad ever was even despite all the beer outside the cave showing the contrary, it’s just one vice versus the other, but Brad most likely chooses to continue to try and do good by Buddy.
I don’t get the Marty stuff in painful at all and I feel like it just sits as a blemish on what is otherwise a captivating story. It definitely feels like Austin wanted Brad to be a morally grey character. But when he tries to juxtapose how Buddy saw Brad vs how she saw Marty it feels just wrong. I love this game but that part has always been a sore spot for me.
Maybe I’ve just always been more sympathetic to Brad as a character than most people, but it just feels like sometimes (especially involving Buddy and Brad) it felt like it was hatred upon hatred that seemed very unwarranted in the story that unfortunately follows painful.
I thought it was dumb how sticky presented himself to Brad like he did something to buddy, even though he never did. I guess he’s just provocative? I think Brad is right to be worried to an extent but still
@@bossdoor my guess is unreliable narrator fuckery involving Brad and the slow effects of joy mutation. Since Buddy is much younger than Brad with I would assume the joy wouldn’t take long to have a far more potent effect on her like we see in joyful and all of the visual hallucinations. VS Brad I would argue it’s likely a lot of what he hears or sees from people could be effects of the Joy taking over. Brad still has hallucinations involving Joy but they’re all tied to Lisa and his trauma, so Buddy and Sticky saying things to allude to Buddy’s rape by sticky could possibly be chalked up to Brads mind simply assuming the worst or making things up based on what he KNOWS happened to Lisa, and what he fears could happen to Buddy. He doesn’t want to fail to protect Lisa again, it’s something I think definitive editions secret final boss demonstrates wonderfully and it’s one of the few genuine improvements to the games
The Marty stuff works in painful. It’s just that joyful makes it worse by how it characterizes buddy.
Well, that's because Marty, like Brad, is a man who's attempting to make up for the wrongs he did in the past. Marty's not over his addictions much like Brad, so bottles are expected. but the cave scene made clear that she didn't even know what joy was thanks to her closed-off lifestyle, and Marty even tells her not to take them while Brad asks for her to look away when confronted with it.
Buddy's also likely going through puberty around the time that the events in the game are taking place so unstable emotions are commonplace.
the montage at 10:20 really hit hard
Tysm I worked hard on that part
I think what Brad says when you choose to hug him is way more sad
Honestly I like Joyful overall (pre definitive edition)
But it is kinda funny how Austin managed to fail at making Joyful better than Painful twice.
But I will admit I think I like Joyfuls “potential” more than the substance the warlords are interesting and could’ve gotten more screen time and Rando is my favorite character period.
If only someone respected in the fandom made a fangame that elaborates on Joyful
(Go play Redisco’s Undone part 1 it is super good)
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Tbf I really wonder about the post credit scene at the end with brad cause it just shows him strolling up to buddy I assume maybe the developer put it in their with the dlc in mind; but without it your left thinking a joy mutant brad is getting close to a sleeping buddy who has a sword and idk it just leaves to many questions in my mind. Like I get the dlc wasn’t the best and I feel it would have done better as a full game instead of a dlc but at least it doesn’t leave on such and ambiguous cliff hanger. Or maybe this game has made me crazy who knows
Ik its unrelated but i bought the LISA ost vinyl, gonna ship late this month, i personally think its the best game oat so im VERY excited
Loved the video, but i think there's one thing that would make it better.
When you've put "Undertale" over the fight where Brad massacres Rando's army, the song should've progressively gotten more distorted and eerie, to symbolize that Brad is losing his last bits of humanity, his precious memories are being twisted into animalistic instincts and desire to kill, and he's quickly stepping towards his doom.
This would've made the scene hit much harder.
undertale music in a lisa related video. That definitely fits
You should check out some of the fangames. Hopeful and Pointless especially are the amazingly authentic.
I did a video on hopeful :) It's only part 1 though, feel free to sub. More Lisa videos are coming
NEW LISA CONTENT???? LETS GO THE FLAME AINT DEAD YET
The funny references don’t work if you do them too often
Lore of Lisa the Painful's Awful Ending momentum 100
Bro I swear to god I have this blessing/curse where shit randomly gets updated, or something of interest happens to a game that I fucking play.
I literally just started playing Lisa and got past the first boss, weird child demon thing.
And now a UA-camr i follow uploads about the fucking game, lmao
Is that one of Ashley's sprite as Lisa. Did not expect to see TCoAaL here.
Peak-dare I say-KINO
welp, it isn't called "the painful" for no reason
It was rigged from the start
@@bossdoorFeatures: A life ruining experience.
At long last, the follow up!
Play Lisa the Undone!!! You'll love it.
dude you are too funny GREAT CONTENT YOU GOT IT
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ah, and so it is finished.
Lisa, is finally complete
or is it?
of course, the story to be continue...
in Lisa The Undone
I'm sorry amazing video but it's
Pronounced
O-lay-tuh
So I just watched this, idc much for spoilers.
But man wtf this ending sucks :(
I get the whole thing of this game is to be dark and horrible but man this makes me mad I want him to have a good end :(
Life is cruel… Sometimes a man get nothing in return even though he offers blood sweat and tears. In a world without women… Who are we? Man this game is making my brain hurt.
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The interlooper
Good video
0:48 чего-чего, а Бэбэя я не ожидал тут увидеть.😮
лол где
или ты про спрайт который на него похож из-за бороды?)))
@@NixAlbum это буквально он.))))
Марти рил на бубуя похож.Если бы Лиза и Брад были приемными и из палестины то тогда 100% схожесть.Ну и если полами поменять.
Dammit why did you have to put that Undertale music at the end?! Lisa's oppisite?!
@@damiencrossley7497 felt fitting
@@bossdoor Good fit for that last gut punch! About 1/2 though the game I started to ask: Am I the badguy?
bro playing undertale music at the climax is wild I hate how this game is constantly compared to undertale despite being released a year before it. Lisa has good emotional tracks too just seems lame to keep jumping to a game that is more popular with a significantly lamer story and trope characters
I just felt the song fit, I don’t compare them
@@bossdoor don't fit
Hey, can you please start crediting the artists you use in your thumbnails? I've wanted to check out a few of the artists you've featured but I can't ever find their original works because of the editing done.
It’s in the description
What's the song playing at 6:05?
Jesters Pity
@@bossdoor Thanks!
Banger thumbnail
i like how the white flash is a inclusive disaster. after all, it got rid of ALL women.
Now what about the ones who don’t know they’re women…
@@infinityheart_tm9270 dead.
@@palntyboi No… more like closet trans women who were still men before The Flash.
First of all, just wanted to say thank you for remembering me, Boss Door. It means a lot. Your editing is very well-done and your humor combined with your monotone voice makes for a fabulous watch! Now, I'm about to criticize Lisa the Painful heavily as I have discovered that I don't like this game very much, but this is in no way criticism directed towards you. I think you're a very good creator! I just don't like the game and have decided to add to the conversation, even though no one asked.
1. Brad's dad and Buddy's relationship...is not great. She's just a kid, sure, but why would she say that Marty did a better job taking care of her than Brad ever did? He [Marty] CLEARLY didn't do a great job, what with the blue Joy pills, the alcohol, the cave, and whatnot. Maybe she just said that to hurt him, but that's unnecessarily cruel.
2. How did Brad completely annihilate his father and the army? Is he magic?? Did the Joy mutate him? Or just "video game logic"?
3. Trans erasure. The apocalypse wiped out all flora/fawna and women, right? But trans MEN exist. Testosterone is not a form of birth control (although some trans men cannot/don't wanna go on T, and that's fine, too) (continued in reply to this comment)
-And if the logic is that they were wiped out, too, then that's bullshit. Plus intersex people exist as well. (3)
4. Who are we cheering for? Brad means well, but like you said, his methods are barbaric. Buddy's just a kid in a fucked-up world with very little hope. And humanity...absolutely does not deserve to be redeemed or repopulated at ALL. Are we just an omnipotent character watching a tragedy where no one wins? Because the latter is the only "good" option, and those kind of stories are too dark and drawn-out FOR MY TASTES.
Anyway, that's my take on Lisa the Painful. These are just my personal opinions and yours may be different from mine. Can't wait to see more content from you (ESPECIALLY In Stars and Time
Damn… bait used to be believable.
@@infinityheart_tm9270 ?
@@Asm0d3u5While Marty might’ve changed in the time he spent away from Brad. As seen by him actually telling Buddy to NOT consume joy. A hadoken esc fire is still a fireball.
@@infinityheart_tm9270 How did he create fire from seemingly thin air?
Let’s go!
Have to be honest… Haven’t watched your videos for a long period, however this video is an indication of how much you have developed not just as a youtuber but also as a person. It is beautiful to see.
Couldnt let the moment breath? Had to add the undertale music? Just couldnt help yourself?
Bro, the joke at 2:10 is in really, *really* poor taste. You dont need to resort to racist edgelord humor to make people laugh. I know you can do better than that.
That's LITERALLY the sfx that played during the cutscene, like it plays a monkey noise during salvation blacks intro, like it's followed up with "No Race Jokes please"
yeah it knocked the whole video down a peg for me
0:30 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You need an editor for your scripts, unless you're misreading the correct words. "Vapid" is straight up incorrect in the context given, and I'm sure you mean "depraved" instead of "deprived."
:(
@bossdoor I would be more than happy to render my services for assistance with grammar and syntax :)
@@gd995 My dude you couldn't even spell depraved right while correcting someone.
@@toolatetothestory corrected, thank you. I was sleep deprived (heh) when I wrote that.