What helped me learn how to play tank the most was just hopping into Follower Dungeons and just getting comfy with the routes and pulls. I think the emphasis on solo content in TWW will help a lot of new players get over the anxiety of tanking.
If you're too nervous to get into tanking, plz realise that tanking is just being a dps that is invincible. You can literally solo most content. Your team is just there to speed up the clear time. Plus if your group wipes, it feels good to 1v1 dungeon and raid bosses and your group will think you're really good at the game.
@@MediiiiccAbsolutely. Tanks self sustain desperately need to be reeled in. I thought I was being helpful to my healers when I was off healing with a prot paladin. After getting back into healing this xpac (havent healed since BFA), turns out I was literally just stealing their entire role and making it unfun for them. But yeah tanking is the most op and easiest role by far. I understand the social pressure aspect, but currently mechanically speaking you are a raid boss and your party are your adds.
Why tanking is my favorite role by far since the inception of WoW: 1. I can pull at the pace that I want (as fast as possible, with respect to the pull difficulty in M+). I hate tanks that are slow and rude when asked to go faster. 2. Extremely little downtime when LFGing M+ groups. 3. Depending on what tank you play, you are basically a 4th DPS. 4. Mostly because I don't trust other tanks.
all tank hero specs have been split into 2 groups, one is passive, the other is active damage. san = passive lots of resource gen and healing, deathbringer = more DPS (will probably be default ST/raid choice) with san being M+
Man your flow and the humor that brought me to your channel 5 yeras ago is still there. Such a pleasure. Thank your for these good informations and the work put into this video.
i was planning to abandon my DK this expac until i tried the new BDK and i fall in love again. frost are good too. now im not sure what to main or i shud go down altoholic road
Tuning aside, VDH and Prot Pally still look like the best for M+. Blood and Monk look amazing for raid. Bear and Warrior may be ok at both, but I wouldn't label either amazing.
For me, no Beserk, Elune's Chosen Moonbear. Basically the same spec I play right now with even more self healing to make my bear nearly a blood DK in raids.
Anywhere I look is putting BDK at C tier, B tier at best for tanking in M+ and raid.... Gdruid is right but I would say prot pala or war is far ahead of BDK right now in terms of survive/dps/potential
if you are new to tanking ( I been doing it since wrath when DK came out ), please remember that people who are mean to you when tanking are just mean shitty losers ... MOST PEOPLE are pretty compassionate and patient with tanks in my experience .... also, try follower dungeons as a way to learn tanking is accessible, easy, and fun it is HANDS DOWN my fave role (vengeance and brewmaster FTW and I'm excited this expac to get really good at all tanks) I will really only pve as a tank cause its just so fun ... and back in wrath I was like 12 and I was tanking (and people were very mean to me sometimes and loved me other times) and I still tank if a 12 year old back then could do it when there weren't many good guides and way more buttons, then you for sure can do it too we need more tanks!! and its definitely the most fun role >:) pick the one that the fantasy most enchants you ... for me that's easy I like tanks that don't "feel" like tanks and are really mobile (vengeance and brew master) the aesthetic of these two specs just really hits for me ... I've always LOVED guardian (but it feels a lil more boring compared to the other two) simply cause bear tank fantasy wise is so so so dope to me, and my next pick would probably be blood dk tho I haven't tanked DK since wrath prot warrior and pally feel the most boring to me simply because they are the typical tank aesthetic but they're really fun too!
the ping pong tank ^^ isnt that easy be real , one missed combo one missed self heal and you are gone and the healer of your group will be so mad for over healing you a lot , yeah i know in hight skilled groups it is nice to be the op self heal tank but most of the time you are going to be the tank that has 10 % or 100 % and i am not sure that this is the perfect tank
I m tank from year 0 and yes u are right …but …because is a but ….the toon is more easy but your team mate are more worst ….and this RE make a tank role hard …because the dips in the last years are just a blablaoers …and really low of skill :)😅
The problem I usually have with tanking is not how easy or hard a tank spec is but the frustration of learning routes, downloading WA's and Plater profiles, learning all abiliites from adds and bosses and getting yelled at when you don't do everything perfect. I wish the game would deal with these issues rather than how tanky a spec is. There is just so much information you need to know before even start playing as a tank. And that pushes people away in the end.
Learning adds and bosses is how it should be. Googling meta routes is super annoying though. Especially when your party does not like your chosen route and starts whining and raging, even if their idea is inferior to yours.
I mean… They (and almost all channels), do tier lists for every patch.. and people watch it! After that… it’s easiest/hardest class…. Then.. “Most fun” DPS/Heal/Tank. Etc etc. Channels just need to generate content.
The problem with blood DKs is that until they have a shitton of haste they are kinda boring, as you will be waiting for runes and cooldowns a lot. I hope they fixed that in WW.
So blood DK sounds cool, many people say it’s the “most fun tank” but I’m worried it’s going to be really challenging. I’ve really only tanked on prot pally (which I find quite easy) but when I tried warrior a few times over the last handful of expansions it’s always felt way more complicated and like you have to carefully weave active mitigation abilities in certain orders or you’ll just die.. Is blood not for me if I find Warrior too complex and intimidating to play?
Rogue monk shammy warlock are always the least played classes. If we are talking tanks you got like two options paladin warrior dk tend to be your typical never die tanks. They do alot of aoe dmg and have alot of defensive talents. Monk and druid these two tanks always do more dmg than any tank always. They tend yo suck at magic dmg and higher keys. Dh these guys are for higher keys the more you learn to kite packs and still do great dmg and utility the higher keys will be for you. Sure otger classes all can do this and sure people take all classes and specs to keys. But if you are reading this you are new most likely. Monk dh druid will be your leas user friendly tanks of them while war pala dk are fairly user friendly and naturally live linger without trying as hard.
What would you recommend for arthritis hands … is there one that’s easiest to tank group content with that in mind or is tanking for bad hands just a no go ? I’d love to be a tank but I tired a warrior tank and my hands just hurt to bad after a short while
I love tanking. I played since wotlk and didnt start tanking until legion bc i was scared, but i was scared for no reason bc its rly not that hard. And if u wipe the group just blame the healer 😂👍 ;p
Would be my first time play tank as a main since mop but everytime i say to me go take youre brewmaster or warrior and tank i que into a group and all dps needs to pull everything, because they only want it fast. And thats a sh* feeling you are useless as tank because deff cds from dps and a dump heal outheal it no problem 😢 i want to have fun when i play and this is not fun 😔
Dammit, this has me wanting to properly learn to bear now. Besides, if I'm going to get punched in the face as dps or a healer, it's only fitting that I take on the role.
First time anyone has ever called Guardian strong at the moment, we got live every top end tank, and also all the forum posts literally screaming for a rework...
If people are nervous about tanking, relax. You’re just there to get hit by stuff. You’ve been training for tank since you started wow except now you’ll die less. If you die, blame the healer. If someone doesn’t interrupt, blame the dps lol. You literally spam a couple buttons to hit everything and then just hit whatever buttons you want. Choose by icon looks or whatever. You can’t do wrong as long as you’re being hit
In a dungeon, the healer is there to heal the dps. A tank should be able to survive by themselves. That’s the mentality when a tank pull a pack. If you can’t survive, maybe pull less or upgrade your gear.
Just a disclaimer for anyone coming here thinking this is some sort of like "only play these 2 tanks, the others are all eh" This is purely just an opinion piece of a single persons view of tanks, there is no data or anything like that yet, half the ability's change every few days at the moment. Do not take this as gospel on what to play. Who knows both of these tanks could be at the bottom of the pack when the actual data comes out.
@@andrealamorgese3363 thats the problem with these kind of videos people believe what they hear and it hurts other players like me cause i main a proc pally in mythic dungeons and its hard to compete with DH at times
part of making a spec choice is also knowing the other 2 options...and WW / MW blow ballsack (not in numbers but in gameplay)... druid/DK/PALA have the best possible options all around, with monk/war/dh now falling behind. (dh got neutered with no double sigils and if havoc isn't tuned right no one will bring one) (all war specs are very meh and the most uninspired design/spell wise)
are blood DKs still with any kind of jump or ability to surge forward? lol i miss blood tanking, but everybody is impatient now days i cant imagine trying to tank mythics without a fel rush, or a leap, or something...
Well there's a San'layn talent that gives *10% speed bonus to Death's Advance and Wraithwalk. Still tho, would've been nice to have more than just those
They really ought to make Death Grip propel you to the enemy as an option instead of pulling the enemy to you. Or maybe make that a talent in the DK tree?
Going with BDK. It has the most resource management which makes it the most fun for me. I also love the area control they offer. I considered BRM but it feels a bit too much like a melee dps with cooldowns. I have never tried Guardian. Maybe U should?
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What helped me learn how to play tank the most was just hopping into Follower Dungeons and just getting comfy with the routes and pulls.
I think the emphasis on solo content in TWW will help a lot of new players get over the anxiety of tanking.
If you're too nervous to get into tanking, plz realise that tanking is just being a dps that is invincible. You can literally solo most content. Your team is just there to speed up the clear time. Plus if your group wipes, it feels good to 1v1 dungeon and raid bosses and your group will think you're really good at the game.
I found being the leader was the nervous part but the Tank gets to set the pace so it makes it easier
Whatever makes the queues faster!
bro played too much MoP remix
Which is terrible game design
@@MediiiiccAbsolutely. Tanks self sustain desperately need to be reeled in. I thought I was being helpful to my healers when I was off healing with a prot paladin. After getting back into healing this xpac (havent healed since BFA), turns out I was literally just stealing their entire role and making it unfun for them. But yeah tanking is the most op and easiest role by far. I understand the social pressure aspect, but currently mechanically speaking you are a raid boss and your party are your adds.
Why tanking is my favorite role by far since the inception of WoW:
1. I can pull at the pace that I want (as fast as possible, with respect to the pull difficulty in M+). I hate tanks that are slow and rude when asked to go faster.
2. Extremely little downtime when LFGing M+ groups.
3. Depending on what tank you play, you are basically a 4th DPS.
4. Mostly because I don't trust other tanks.
Honestly, tanking feels so much easier than having to memorize dps rotations and far less stressful than healing
This is why I switched mains to tank. Everyone loves a tank and if you’re even semi-competent, you’ll get tons of dungeons and gear
Question about Blood DK; between Deathbringer and San, which is more of a fast paced action oriented?
San
all tank hero specs have been split into 2 groups, one is passive, the other is active damage. san = passive lots of resource gen and healing, deathbringer = more DPS (will probably be default ST/raid choice) with san being M+
came searching, and found a 5 min old video lol id say thats up to date
Cool stuff!
Man your flow and the humor that brought me to your channel 5 yeras ago is still there. Such a pleasure.
Thank your for these good informations and the work put into this video.
How's prot pala?
Best Timing! Thanks for your work!
You're very welcome! Enjoy the video!
Probably never playing vengeance again sadly. So what am i forced to play.. blood or brew, if i can find motivation
was just looking for some information and DAMN that intro was something i watched it like 3 times :D
Hehe, glad you liked it!
Where is the brewmanster monk? :X
i was planning to abandon my DK this expac until i tried the new BDK and i fall in love again. frost are good too. now im not sure what to main or i shud go down altoholic road
Tuning aside, VDH and Prot Pally still look like the best for M+. Blood and Monk look amazing for raid. Bear and Warrior may be ok at both, but I wouldn't label either amazing.
For me, no Beserk, Elune's Chosen Moonbear. Basically the same spec I play right now with even more self healing to make my bear nearly a blood DK in raids.
Why did you only cover two tanks?
Bros I want ur "what im maining" vid! Bring it!!!
Blood dk this xpac always end up back on that class for tanking paladin used to be fun but not anymore
Opinion on prot paladin?
Anywhere I look is putting BDK at C tier, B tier at best for tanking in M+ and raid.... Gdruid is right but I would say prot pala or war is far ahead of BDK right now in terms of survive/dps/potential
Fair enough
Video is not about what tank is best though :D
Paladin. The only reason is the gladiator tmog it's rocking :)
Holynus Maximus confirmed!
Wait so basically this is video about druid and dk ...
Basically the tanks we think people should play, yea
Hi, thanks for your advise, but I will be playing...... well you know, Flame 😂🎉. Cool video. 🤠
I’ve always just loved being a bear. Glad it’s good again!
if you are new to tanking ( I been doing it since wrath when DK came out ), please remember that people who are mean to you when tanking are just mean shitty losers ... MOST PEOPLE are pretty compassionate and patient with tanks in my experience .... also, try follower dungeons as a way to learn
tanking is accessible, easy, and fun
it is HANDS DOWN my fave role (vengeance and brewmaster FTW and I'm excited this expac to get really good at all tanks)
I will really only pve as a tank cause its just so fun ... and back in wrath I was like 12 and I was tanking (and people were very mean to me sometimes and loved me other times) and I still tank
if a 12 year old back then could do it when there weren't many good guides and way more buttons, then you for sure can do it too
we need more tanks!! and its definitely the most fun role >:)
pick the one that the fantasy most enchants you ... for me that's easy I like tanks that don't "feel" like tanks and are really mobile (vengeance and brew master)
the aesthetic of these two specs just really hits for me ... I've always LOVED guardian (but it feels a lil more boring compared to the other two) simply cause bear tank fantasy wise is so so so dope to me, and my next pick would probably be blood dk tho I haven't tanked DK since wrath
prot warrior and pally feel the most boring to me simply because they are the typical tank aesthetic but they're really fun too!
Bear!
Thank you :)
the problem with most tanks is surviving the entry pull. For that...DK isnt the best. Once you are going though, it seems great.
I heard guardian is now b tier? can anyone confirm it?
the ping pong tank ^^ isnt that easy be real , one missed combo one missed self heal and you are gone and the healer of your group will
be so mad for over healing you a lot , yeah i know in hight skilled groups it is nice to be the op self heal tank but most of the time you are going to be the tank that has 10 % or 100 % and i am not sure that this is the perfect tank
DK no question.
Prot Warrior!
wait what aren't you marcelian :D
The titles/intro for some of these recent videos aren't leaving a good impression. This video is about 2 tank specs
As a healer no. Tanks have alot of responsibility for a group to do well. They have literally no accountability when they fuck up.
Came here to get my prot warrior ego boosted and you left me high and dry Flame :(
I will play warrior due to the awesome transmog options and the ability to zugzug.
Please do same for healers. I would really appreciate it ❤
Tanks are so easy to play now compared to a few years ago. Healers are easily the hardest role now.
I m tank from year 0 and yes u are right …but …because is a but ….the toon is more easy but your team mate are more worst ….and this RE make a tank role hard …because the dips in the last years are just a blablaoers …and really low of skill :)😅
The problem I usually have with tanking is not how easy or hard a tank spec is but the frustration of learning routes, downloading WA's and Plater profiles, learning all abiliites from adds and bosses and getting yelled at when you don't do everything perfect. I wish the game would deal with these issues rather than how tanky a spec is. There is just so much information you need to know before even start playing as a tank. And that pushes people away in the end.
agreed. i dived into beta because i want to learn the dungeons.
Skill issue.
Learning adds and bosses is how it should be.
Googling meta routes is super annoying though. Especially when your party does not like your chosen route and starts whining and raging, even if their idea is inferior to yours.
@@Telados Yes but as a dps or healer role, you can never bother and still finish a key without having any knowledge. But as a tank it's mandatory.
@@sunboyplus yeah but unless you are 3k plus tank you dont have to be perfect and even you are it's still not that difficult to learn routes
Seems like youre scraping the barrel with content like this
I mean…
They (and almost all channels), do tier lists for every patch.. and people watch it!
After that… it’s easiest/hardest class….
Then.. “Most fun” DPS/Heal/Tank.
Etc etc.
Channels just need to generate content.
I am a lvl 56 prot paladin lvling for war within
There's only correct answer: Vengeance.
The problem with blood DKs is that until they have a shitton of haste they are kinda boring, as you will be waiting for runes and cooldowns a lot.
I hope they fixed that in WW.
One of their two hero talent trees helps with this. It's all about building haste buffs
So blood DK sounds cool, many people say it’s the “most fun tank” but I’m worried it’s going to be really challenging. I’ve really only tanked on prot pally (which I find quite easy) but when I tried warrior a few times over the last handful of expansions it’s always felt way more complicated and like you have to carefully weave active mitigation abilities in certain orders or you’ll just die.. Is blood not for me if I find Warrior too complex and intimidating to play?
Blood is actually easier than warrior and prot pally my friend. It just uses 3 buttons on its rotation
I can't wait to take my bear for a walk.
People been brushing past bear for too long!
Rogue monk shammy warlock are always the least played classes. If we are talking tanks you got like two options paladin warrior dk tend to be your typical never die tanks. They do alot of aoe dmg and have alot of defensive talents. Monk and druid these two tanks always do more dmg than any tank always. They tend yo suck at magic dmg and higher keys. Dh these guys are for higher keys the more you learn to kite packs and still do great dmg and utility the higher keys will be for you. Sure otger classes all can do this and sure people take all classes and specs to keys. But if you are reading this you are new most likely. Monk dh druid will be your leas user friendly tanks of them while war pala dk are fairly user friendly and naturally live linger without trying as hard.
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What would you recommend for arthritis hands … is there one that’s easiest to tank group content with that in mind or is tanking for bad hands just a no go ?
I’d love to be a tank but I tired a warrior tank and my hands just hurt to bad after a short while
Blood DK has the lowest APM (Actions Per Minute) which means you will press the least amount of buttons on blood.
guardian druid!
I will play prot warrior it's so easy and very tanky class
Hey, which of the 2 is easier for a beginner ?
Love all the tanks 😂😂
love tank content!!!
Hehe, so do we, we need more tanks out there!
I love tanking. I played since wotlk and didnt start tanking until legion bc i was scared, but i was scared for no reason bc its rly not that hard. And if u wipe the group just blame the healer 😂👍 ;p
Would be my first time play tank as a main since mop but everytime i say to me go take youre brewmaster or warrior and tank i que into a group and all dps needs to pull everything, because they only want it fast. And thats a sh* feeling you are useless as tank because deff cds from dps and a dump heal outheal it no problem 😢 i want to have fun when i play and this is not fun 😔
Dammit, this has me wanting to properly learn to bear now. Besides, if I'm going to get punched in the face as dps or a healer, it's only fitting that I take on the role.
I am so Happy cause VDH will be rip s1 hahaha Blood will pump only tank with cheat death S1 not trinkets like Cheat death and vdh is rip ez
First time anyone has ever called Guardian strong at the moment, we got live every top end tank, and also all the forum posts literally screaming for a rework...
Either way, im playing prot pally! then alt a vdh i like thoelse 2 tanks and havent really tried other tanks. Ive been maining prot pally since cata!
Would you say these two are also the strongest tanks? or just the easiest to learn and most fun to play?
What recording program you use ? Thank you .
Will be maining Blood DK and Survival hunter as a second main in TWW.
Please edit: blood dks don't have girlfriends
So whats the meta? Blood DK?
I’ll play the fun one
If people are nervous about tanking, relax. You’re just there to get hit by stuff. You’ve been training for tank since you started wow except now you’ll die less. If you die, blame the healer. If someone doesn’t interrupt, blame the dps lol. You literally spam a couple buttons to hit everything and then just hit whatever buttons you want. Choose by icon looks or whatever. You can’t do wrong as long as you’re being hit
In a dungeon, the healer is there to heal the dps. A tank should be able to survive by themselves. That’s the mentality when a tank pull a pack. If you can’t survive, maybe pull less or upgrade your gear.
That intro LOL
BDK 4 sure
Just a disclaimer for anyone coming here thinking this is some sort of like "only play these 2 tanks, the others are all eh"
This is purely just an opinion piece of a single persons view of tanks, there is no data or anything like that yet, half the ability's change every few days at the moment.
Do not take this as gospel on what to play. Who knows both of these tanks could be at the bottom of the pack when the actual data comes out.
Blood was by far the best tank i SL S2 S3 TIME too rock it again baby RIP DH YESSS
Play the tank u want to play these type videos is what's wrong with WOW. All tanks are good and they bring their on flavor to the game
Tell to ppl Who play +18. Dh or nothing
@@andrealamorgese3363 thats the problem with these kind of videos people believe what they hear and it hurts other players like me cause i main a proc pally in mythic dungeons and its hard to compete with DH at times
Try brewmaster its versatile af and without switching talents you can be defensive or offensive depending if your rotation goes 1 2 3 or 1 3 2
part of making a spec choice is also knowing the other 2 options...and WW / MW blow ballsack (not in numbers but in gameplay)... druid/DK/PALA have the best possible options all around, with monk/war/dh now falling behind. (dh got neutered with no double sigils and if havoc isn't tuned right no one will bring one) (all war specs are very meh and the most uninspired design/spell wise)
@@kikoredog have you played ww on beta? because in my opinion its one of the best designed dps right now. just behind fire mage.
@@kikoredog ww mw and are amaizing and fun to play mw is bassically ww with 3 less buttons
Do we know when S4 ends ? Does it end when the pre-patch starts ?
Probably, since pre-patch hits with the spec reworks
@@MarcelianOnline gotcha, thank you !
are blood DKs still with any kind of jump or ability to surge forward? lol i miss blood tanking, but everybody is impatient now days i cant imagine trying to tank mythics without a fel rush, or a leap, or something...
Well there's a San'layn talent that gives *10% speed bonus to Death's Advance and Wraithwalk. Still tho, would've been nice to have more than just those
It's not that bad, people don't actually go out of their way to rush, since, you know, they'll die :D
They really ought to make Death Grip propel you to the enemy as an option instead of pulling the enemy to you. Or maybe make that a talent in the DK tree?
you got that mop remix brainrot
Going with BDK. It has the most resource management which makes it the most fun for me. I also love the area control they offer.
I considered BRM but it feels a bit too much like a melee dps with cooldowns.
I have never tried Guardian. Maybe U should?