Dr. Bruce Wauchope - The Undiluted Gospel Conference 2018
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2019
- Dr. Bruce Wauchope - The Undiluted Gospel Conference 2018
This video is Session #2 of 8 and was recorded at the “Undiluted Gospel” Conference in Allen, Texas in May of 2018.
Produced by Michael Lafleur and THE INFUSION NETWORK
Once you see God as a loving Father who is rescuing and healing his Children (all mankind) from Sin rather than seeing God as a Judge and Executioner of Sin as a crime, it changes everything. The truth about our loving Father God (Jesus was the perfect revelation of the Father) is HE IS REALLY THAT GOOD!!!!
Where does Scripture say that we are all Gods children and that He is rescuing and healing all mankind from the due penalty of their sin?
@@dustincampbell4835 the entire new testament is a revelation of that truth but its hidden from religious people
@@garyanderson7058 that's not an answer. It sounds more like indefensible theology with a built in excuse to label people hypocrites that don't agree with universalism.
Please explain what you mean by "religious people"? Who fits that definition in your mind?
Woo hoo!!!! Yes!!!!
@@dustincampbell4835have you never read Acts?
17 v 28…..
Unraveling all the tangled confusion of "gospel teaching" that held me captive for decades. ❤
This is Flippin awesome! It has taking me days to get through it! Only because I had to absorb it! And once I absorbed it, the anger rose up and I had to walk out forgiving the blasted church!🤣 Thank you Bruce for the truth. My eyes are opening up! And so is my spirit woman!❤️🙏💪🏻
So beautiful a Gospel. So loving and intimate and wonderful. How I wish I’d heard this years ago, but at least I hear it now. Thank you.
We want more Wauchope 2021.
"Jesus, will you lift away my darkness and sin where I don't see the face of the Father?"
the complete gospel right here. Profound. True. Life changing and affirming. Thank you.
I’ve respectfully read most of the comments here but for the doubters of what Bruce is saying, based on this verse or that verse, I lovingly and tenderly say: don’t take Bruce’s word for it; seek encounter with the Trinity and as promised by them you will find; you will find out that the Big Three really are that all powerful and omnipresent etc etc etc. God the Father opened my eyes to the truth of Bruce’s message as I watched it. I’m going to continue to walk with Him to find out what the truth about the church is and lovingly heal it 🙏😇
This needs to be seen by so many many more people. Healing for the world 🥰
Thank you for this undiluted Gospel of grace and freedom.
Thank you Father, I am so profoundly and deeply grateful....
Before time began!!!!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you early church faith and thank you Baxter, Bruce, et. al.!
Can anyone help me understand why it says Jesus whipped people in the temple? This isn't sitting rt in my heart. 8 mean, Jesus Christ is unconditional Love, rt? Has this passage been translated correctly?
We must know The Father Son and Holy Spirit in the deepest most intimate parts of our Being.......we live and move and have our Being in HIM
😊 and He lives and move and has His being in us. Gal 2:20 💞
That was flippin amazing! Wow!❤️
Thank you so much
WOW!! 😭😭
THANKS!!!
Wow wow wow the most amazing truth I'm love drunk after that hallelujah
Best thing I have ever heard!
My husband keeps asking when I try to explain it this way,, and he says “so God just pulled an undo reverse card and it was never like that?” He doesn’t understand it never WAS LIKE THAT. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and forever
This is the clearest message I've ever heard. Thank you.
Always loved Baxter Kreuger.
Wow.
Thank you! Best Bruce Wauchope teaching I have ever seen, so clear and truthful! Could you please post the other videos from the "Undiluted Gospel" conference?
I agree! I would love to watch the whole thing if it's available.
@@ladydar9105 Amen
Amen. Thank you so much for posting this. I would love to hear the other sessions as well. Blessings.
@@pook1960 Thank you very much, there are a lot of good gospel messages for sale there.
So the Trinity was in Adam n Eve or ? If so, then why did the Holy Spirit have to be sent to earth?
Isaiah 59:2
But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God,
And your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear.
Isaiah 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned, every one, to his own way; And the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.
44:30 he is getting this right about immortality
Let's see... first, I appreciate Dr Wauchope's passion when he communicates his ideas. For years I have become increasingly tired with pastors/bible teachers who say they believe in God's grace but teach a performance based gospel. Second, what I would like for teachers like Dr Bruce Wauchope and Baxter Kruger and others who hold similar views to please do is also talk about the scriptures that seem to contradict their view. They usually only point out scriptures that seem to support their view, but just about anyone who is proficient in scripture at least at a basic level will not be edified if all you do is only present the scriptures that seem to support your view. He does come to very interesting conclusions based on the scriptures he read. There are numerous scriptures that should be visited as well such as the very well known John 3:16 for starters, and many others.... I do not mean any disrespect and this has given me something to think about.
Hearing this truth sparks so much life and joy in me...and then the question arises: what if it is not true? That question seems to originate in the religious view of separation and the fear of believing the wrong thing about God and being punished for it!
Maybe it helps to read the verses that seem to contradict from the viewpoint of inclusion! When you read through the lens of separation (the horror story), you interpret what you read totally different than when you read it through the lens of inclusion (the love story).
That's what I intend to do. From now on I will read everything in scripture through the filter of the eternal love story and believe that the Holy Spirit is right there in my deepest inner parts to impart THE TRUTH to me.
@@Why.am.I.here... yes!!! Thank you for putting these thoughts into words for us!
A double minded man should expect nothing. Duality. Seperate. Wow.
According to Luke 16:19-31 There is a hell of torment to the self centered.
Is there possibly a way for me to commune with my brother? A way for me to communicate with my brother in Christ who I dearly love? Just found his videos. Would love to be able to encourage and edify and love and rejoice that someone besides me talks like this. Is it possible to have an email to correspond with my brother! Anyone? Can ya help me? I frickin love this brother!!!!!!! Fuck!
🤯🤯🤯🤯🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
I'm trying to get away from people who are critical and talking down on people and institutions, like down on church folks and systems that do not know any better. Cant we just let light overcome darkness without all the negativity? I feel for those there, but with such talk how do they know we care?
I found the Baxter Krueger undiluted gospel video from this conference I'm curious if there are any more or is it just these two
I FUCKING LOVE BRUCE! PLEASE HELP ME GET IN CONTACT WITH HIM! I feel like it’s God!
Where is session 1
"Now I urge you, brothers and sisters, keep your eye on those who cause dissensions and hindrances contrary to the teaching which you learned, and turn away from them. For such people are slaves, not of our Lord Christ but of their own appetites; and by their smooth and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of the unsuspecting."
Jesus said "Behold I hold the keys to death and hades".
If he's got the keys, WHAT DO YOU THINK HE'S GOING TO DO WITH THEM???
Jordan amen!
Exactly what He said He would do in Matthew 7:21-23.
@@dustincampbell4835 Such a westerner you are :)
@@Jordan-hz1wr what does my geographical location have to do with the biblical answer I provided to your question?
Are you saying I'm incorrect and my views are determined more by my western culture than a clear exegesis of Scripture?
Perhaps the following passage is a more satisfactory answer to your question since it also comes from the book of Revelation which you quoted;
"Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:14-15
@@dustincampbell4835 No, rather your "exegesis" is shaped by the legal orientation of western theology. You quote a single passage of scripture out of the context of its chapter, that chapter out of the context of its book, and that book out of the context of the whole thesis of scripture.
Good news, means good news friend.
relentless-love.org/sermons/the-books-of-the-dead-and-the-book-of-the-lamb/
Why do you think he intentionally uses the word "sh*t" so often?
I sincerely hope anyone reading this might really think about these words, which are not just my private opinion (like Origen's or Gregory of Nyssa's "theolugomeni" regarding "apokatstasis" etc) but the classical balanced Orthodox view: for surely we shouldn't feel free to take words like "Perichoresis" and quote the Fathers who coined such words and developed our corporate understanding of the nature of the Trinity, when we (Kruger, Young, Crowder and co.) feel completely at liberty to reinterpret what the Church is and what the Gospel is? ...
An Orthodox friend of mine once said that 'Protestantism is like a constant "exchange of ideas" as almost opposed to a life of therapeutic participation in the Sacramental life of the Church' (getting on with it within the beauty of the tradition). Although people might consider themselves "post Protestant", it's quite clear to see that in these kind of talks and meetings, this is exactly what's going on... we're ever trying to find a "new way" of thinking about the ancient Gospel which was "once for all handed down to the Saints?"
I'm very glad that such folks are drawing from the deep wells of Eastern Orthodoxy; and there is much beautiful truth in what they are saying, but these ancient Christian philosophers, theologians and leaders were not in some amorphous, vacuous,"pure inspiration" free flow movement of some invisible Community, but they were very much part of the Church that Christ inaugurated and which formulated the Creeds and the theology of the Ecumenical Councils... and that was (and still is) in the continuous stream of the mindset of the Apostolic and post-Apostolic, ante-Nicene tradition.
Though there is clearly a multitude of private beliefs about certain things which differ among the Fathers, this patristic consensus is very clear on certain things regarding the nature of God and man and the degree of our freedom or inability; the nature of Christ's incarnation, his death and what we ought to do with the sin we still find in our lives. All I'm pointing out is that what certain teachers sometimes say is at odds with the balanced consensus which is full of beauty and balance and and which works! And not about some enemy "religion" or "religious spirit".
For example, the Orthodox (though not Orthodox myself mind) would clearly teach - as opposed to that which a hyper grace believer might think regarding sin and the sinner - that "sin"- being an abstraction, is a privation of the good. It has no being / substance. Sin is demonically inspired and energised thoughts and actions that WE - as PERSONS - entertain and commit.
So when God "hates sin or the sinful / wicked" in the word, His dissatisfaction is surely towards people - both individual and corporate - not merely an abstraction: which is why the Father (as the above teachers would agree) was not hating or pouring wrath out upon the Son on the cross; for then the Father would have to be pretending to be angry at the Son Who had not sinned. No, God was receiving and absorbing all the injustice and hatred and disease of our race in order to provide the way out within Himself: to heal us and to rightfully disarm the enemy.
But God's judgement / penalty of sin, the "wages" of it, is death (both passively consequential and purposefully ordained due to a very real displeasure that God "feels" towards evil - both demonic and human) We ascribe love and compassion to the Deity, so why struggle to accept wrath or hate / anger as having at least some correlation with what we understand by those words: the words that the Spirit Himself inspired)
Yes wrath party denotes "mortality" and the effect of His Presence upon the ignorant soul; but His wrath is to be revealed "against the godlessness and wickedness of men"... and so Christ, by entering into the place of condemnation and death in order to destroy it, becomes the Ark of our salvation: Salvation Himself, that we might escape the real wrath to come... where we might "go down with the demonic ship" so to speak.
Punishment is a reality; that's why it is "the chastisement / punishment that was upon Him, that bought us peace". This doesn't mean (as it often does in the West) that God the Father is pouring wrath out upon the Son. No, again, His human soul was separated from his human body.: He "tasted death". This, along with His loving, yet torturous identification with us and the sense of abandonment, was the punishment... but all within the union of that human soul and a human body with the Divine Word.
Christ takes on the penalty of our collective death - as He Who had assumed and deified our nature - in order to raise it up within Himself... in order to heal that which is predisposed to sin and death. But our personal salvation / adoption / regeneration is not merely "realised" and "perceived", because, as Christ the Word did not assume a human person - but a human nature - we as persons who actualise nature are "potentially" recipients of that which He restored within Himself. This means that we (the Church) were "chosen in Him before the foundation of the world".
Of course We were all in His Mind upon the tree: you and me (unless Open Theism is true and you are only truly known from conception alone), and of course we are all in Christ Who upholds all reality: from Whom, to Whom and through Whom all things are, and in Whom we live move and have our being... but reconciliation is about being "relationally" reconciled, and a real ontological change in time and space - in us - as we receive Eternal Life as we are, by Baptismal grace, immersed - into Him.
He, as the Second Adam, made the Way for us, having purchased full redemption before the Father, before Reality. But we "believe" and "receive" (John 1) as individual persons; we actualize that restored nature... "and if any man has not the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ"... "and He breathed on them, and said, "receive the Holy Spirit"
As unique Hypostasis - we come into that Triune Life... "Partakers of the Divine nature" (the risen humanity in the God- Man in the Spirit)... or not. For in the Greek Fathers, and in the Christology, Anthropology and Soteriology of the Ecumenical Councils of the first millennium, there is a clear, subtle, yet real and vital distinction between nature and person; and also a real freedom and synergy that is maintained: therefore, both Augustinian determinism and universalism are seen as two sides of the same erroneous coin)
Grace and Peace X
You would do well to read and meditate on Jeremiah 31
V 31 The New Covenant
V32 Not like Sinai
V33 Indwelling
V34 No Sin!
You and Yehovah
Not
The so called church fathers
No such thing In Jesus!
You join with HIM! ✝️🩸🕊️
JESUS CHRIST IS
@@P.H.888 You would do well to study history and the teaching of the Orthodox Church. It will be a blessing! ⛪☺️✌️💚
Abraham tithed before the Law…. So how does that fit into the picture? Please help to understand….
According to the theology preached here man has never been lost.
Yes and amen
Yes and amen
@@danwilliams6607 One can say that a person has never been lost. I can agree that people can believe an say it. I can simply not believe that it was what Jesus believed or Paul believed. If people believe that they know what has not been revealed to Jesus wile on the earth... so be it for them.
@@dynamicloveministries334 I agree Jesus came to seek and save the lost. I was lost and blind. Jesus found me and healed my blindness. He was the perfect one to do this finding work, for the Father and He had never lost me. I am found in Christ not by being located because He and the Father always knew where and what I was. My foundness stems from by whom I was found. I have never been physically blind but I did not see the one who let's me see. I was lost like the prodigal and like the prodigal was not found in the embrace of the father or in his presence to me. I was found when, in spite of my rehearsed speech to persuade my father to let me be a servant. So I might survive another day, I find that he does not have time for such nonsense. I was and am and always will be "this son" of his. Yet, my never " lost" always present to the father and even now to this father newly revealed as better than we could have imagined. This brother of mine stands outside because he blind to the goodness of the father. Lost in the very presence of love.
So it maybe semantics, but God has not every lost us. Even better, could not ever lose us. Because of who he is. Especially, as who he is revealed in Christ Jesus. He reveals to blinded eyes and lost hearts whom we have lost sight of and trust in. Like Paul seeing I was blind, blinded now I see. I would venture to say the teachers of this theology would testify to their lostness and blindness as well, and to the truth that we have never been lost to God as he actually is. Thanks, blessings, and peace to you
@@danwilliams6607 A brother outside is a brother not inside. A son that is lost. Being a son does not mean you are saved. People are lost. Why don't we just kill all people and so send people.to instant revelation of God, then pull the trigger on our selves and join them in the life of God?
Your message is what I believe, also, but as minor as it may seem, would have preferred a less offensive word than shit. Many may not have minded, however, some probably did!
This is simply the doctrine of universalism
I agree that the incarnation is nuts. It not true.
I empathise with your statement. Although I’m slowly seeing the incarnation as a birthing within my own broken life, and it brings great joy. Peace
"For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch yourselves, so that you may not lose what we have worked for, but may win a full reward. Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God."
God loves us even in the darkness of our minds . Blindness to who God is and that is why he came to seek and save that which was lost.
I agree about the dualism but we cannot forget about life and death.
Satan is the father of all religion..... Jesus looks at Pharisees and says "you are of your father the devil", today Pharisees are likely evangelicals
Contextually Jesus was not only speaking to the Pharisees when he said that in John 8.
And biblically all of those outside Christ are children of wrath/children of the devil. (Ephesians 2:3 & 1 John 3:10).
Why would you think evangelical Christians are modern day pharisees?
Didn't Jesus command his disciples to preach the Gospel to the lost? (Mark 16:15...)
And isn't it logically inconsistent for you to think that anyone is a child of the devil if everyone goes to Heaven according to (false) teachers like Bruce Wauchope and Baxter Kruger?
Thank you for correcting me! I have been so wrong to believe these false teachers! Thanks to you and your UA-cam trolling ministry and being mean and ugly with your bible knowledge has really captured my heart! Why would I want to believe in a Father who holds all things together and an incarnation that is at the bottom of my heart loving me, or a Spirit gently helping me recover from the trauma of my life! Who would want that over bible literalism, right wing sarcasm, and internet trolling!!! I so THANK YOU!!!
@@garyanderson7058 now you see, your comment is actually rude and dismissive, I said nothing "mean or ugly" to you.
And your immediate defensiveness betrays your insecurity in even trying to affirm Wauchope's heresy.
I asked sincere questions; are you not able to answer them?
If you cannot contend for your position with Scripture then all you are referring to is a god of your own imagination, aka an idol (Exodus 20:4).
"But false prophets also appeared among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. Many will follow their indecent behavior, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep." 2 Peter 2
and sometimes these false prophets troll youtube videos that so beautifully declare the Undiluted Gospel.
@@carvin69thinline65 how is universalism the undiluted gospel? Wouldn't it be more accurately described as a false gospel? One that has been viewed as a heretical position for well over a millennia, in fact?
@@carvin69thinline65 and how does dropping occasional curse words into his "bible-teaching" factor into your viewing of this as a "beautiful" declaration of the gospel?
@@dustincampbell4835 oh skubala!
@@dustincampbell4835 a millenia?
So if you go back far enough it wasn't heretical? I'm just asking. Not snarky.
We need to understand that eternal life is not just "relationship" neither have we received salvation before the world began. We have received a promise of eternal life before the world began. Those who believe are therefore righteous and receive. I also don't see separation as only a Hellenistic philosophy. Should we make use of the concept as mentioned by the Dr. even the demons are not separated from Him. Well, no person is separated from the promise, it is just a matter of making use of it. Christ holding all things together cannot mean that he is holding drug cartels together.
In my opinion John 16 has been absolutely butchered contextually by Bruce. I am sorry but it is not healthy to read so many things into the text that is simply not there.
Im not religious I promise but my ears certainly dislike the S_____word so much. That’s how the world talks not those professing Godliness I promise you!!!
That's your dualist mind separating people again. There is no "worldly" or "godly people". Everyone is on the same journey discovering christ.
@@jeremy472 Then why did Jesus say that were either for Him or against Him. Same thing.
Philippians 3 v 8 St Paul says all his good works are shit
Skybalon in Greek usually translates as dung.
@@P.H.888 that word was found in medical journals and other serious documents at that time. It was not considered an obscenity.
This false teacher, on the other hand, is using an obscenity while simultaneously mishandling the word of God. There is no excuse for it.
"What a waste of time. We could just join a church for that", he said.
Please stop ridiculing the body of Christ for that error. Instead blame the lukewarm Christians sitting in the pews just like some of those people listening to you in this video. If you think churches are only for wasting time then you are totally going against what the early church father's taught!!!
he is speaking the truth about church but it does sound like hes being a bit cheeky
Mark Davisson, I’m not really certain what you mean IS A waste of time! Also, I don’t see any ridiculing of “the Body of Christ”, I do see a distinction being made between the “Church” & the “church”.
Many "churches" teach a legalist gospel of works. They say "grace, grace, grace" but they place guilt and law on people. In Christ there is no condemnation, and ALL are in Christ!
Mark, Bruce is objectively and absolutely correct. MOST churches are dead from the start. Not because of "lukewarmness", but because they were never close to the fire to begin with.
When your "church" is established on a totally wrong theological foundation of inherent separation and a threat of eternal punishment, and built on law and false promises, you don't have a CHURCH, but just a religious institution.
The church is not the universe
correct! its that building on the corner called First Baptist, filled with gun toting, trump loving, bible believers! thank you for straightening that out for the rest of us!
@@garyanderson7058 I believe he was referring to the church as in the body/bride of Christ (Colossians 1:18; John 3:29); as opposed to the heretical position of universalism that believes all of humanity holds that title and is destined for Paradise.
Well, the church is an institution, not the body of Christ, but the body of Christ is the entire universe. So I'm not quite sure how it all adds up.
If you read all the scripture you will not come to the conclusions that Bruce comes to. Mystical rubbish
This guy literally doesn't believe in church leadership? Confession of sins? Literally the most cherry picked message I've ever heard which makes sense given his beliefs at the end of the day.
Confession of sins 🤔
Must we reálly confess sins that the Father has dealt with by giving His Són ??
How can a forgiven person ask for forgiveness ? What is there to 'repent' of if Jesus already took AWAY the sin of the entire world, with the promise never to think of that ever again 🤔
John 1:29 +3:16,17
Hebrews 8:12 + 10:17 for the promises.
1John 3:5 'And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin'.
1John 2:12 I write to you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for His name’s sake.
Do you really believe that if any person 'repent' of his sin and Jesus appears.. then that deed of repentance will save him .. in other words it's the finished work of Jesus at the cross, plus my little contribution ?
Confess means 'to say the same thing'. If Gód says I'm forgive, then I ám forgiven, and that settles it. He cannot lie, I therefore agree with His words. It's called righteousness by faith, not mý Faith, but Hís!
REPENT simply means to change the way you think about who Gód is and us in Christ. It also means to agree with the words in the New Cov, starting with Acts 2 the outporing of the Holy Spirit.
Col 2:14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
Isaiah 53:4-6,10
Surely He has borne our griefs And carried our sorrows; Yet we esteemed Him stricken, Smitten by God, and afflicted. [5]But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed. [6]All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned, every one, to his own way; And the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all. [10]Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed*, He shall prolong His days, And the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand.
*us
Father is Son-conscious, not sin.
Did not Jesus also had a 'cherry picked message' when He was in the flesh .. ?
Church leadership (the leaders of the institutions) can be a servant to the gospel or against the gospel or both. That’s what he said.
lol
Redefining the church completely from what the Bible teaches. Please don't listen to this weird teaching
This man is teaching that satan lives by every word of God. Terrible.