Justice Joe Williams, Te Ritorito 2017: 'The Treaty of Waitangi and whānau, hapū and iwi wellbeing'
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2017
- Justice Joe Williams
Te Ritorito 2017: 'The Treaty of Waitangi and whānau, hapū and iwi wellbeing'
3 April 2017
You can download the presentation slides here: www.superu.govt.nz/news-and-ev...
Kia Ora fantastic Korero thankyou
How are you there
How are you there
Tena koe Joe Your insight is invaluable to Maori, Law must be thwart and won by law it would seem that kupe left a legacy to us, our ancestors like you said using plants it is up to the younger ones to carry on what they started.
Amen
How are you there l am Clarance barasa OF Jesus Christ church may God bless you amen
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The treaty is being dissolved
Masterclass from a Master.
How are you there l am Rve Clarance barasa OF Jesus Christ church in Kenyan l am requesting you my brother to support my church may God bless you
Amen
Kia ora, is there anyway to view the presentation please? the link provided above doesn't seem to work.
Jahbless joe onelove brother
Machine language is not a legal language in new Zealand
Māori is an official language of Aotearoa NZ
@@leannebrownie1449 English is no longer spoken in New Zealand. Te reo Maori is spoken and the other language that is spoken is Gibberish.
"Show me the Waitangi Treaty in the Correct-Parse-Syntax-Grammar for the Voidance of the Perjury".
Joe Williams for prime Minister
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You
Got your snout deep in the trough eh joe
Was Kupe Samoan ? Lol
more eastern most likely, the hawaiki zone is thought to encompass eastern polynesia like rarotonga and tahiti, rarotongan is sometimes called rarotongan maori for some people as they sound very similar
Wrong. Not she did not supposedly say “a long white cloud”. The white part was added by a more contemporary poet. Joe Williams account is based on oral translations. So who knows what really happened. He also wrong about the seafaring. The Viking sailed to America in 11 Century. A similar distance to Polynesian navigators.
It is possible Chinese ships made it as far as NZ before Maori arrived.
The concept of property is a northern idea? Really so when Maori commuted genocide and stole land, That wasn’t about property? No Maori saw that an Iwi “belonged” to a place like that place in Taupo, and thought, “I’ll have that thanks” and killed then all?
He says that the principle of kinship and
The idea of property in something is a norther concept, however the principle of property isn’t just about having it just to have it. It’s often about kinship family and obligation in the west. That being at times central to concept of property.
Property in this respect also means an attribute, quality, or characteristic of something, for a reason.
Dies the ban not recognize his own whakapapa? He an Anglo Celt. His Whakapap is Williams.
No idea about owning a river or mountain, but suddenly Maori are all about that now.
Whakapapa id how knowledge is rationalised
and rendered tangible in western sciences.
Does he seriously not realise that the west has concepts of rights and obligations?
Of Tapu, of mana ute katiaga are all part of western culture.
No the new system was not so different.
Yeah mana can be about the individual like utu.
Yes the right of the individual like Christ.
He is making a.clash. He is inventing a clash and misrepresenting the mixing up what he’s talking about and why.
He thinks in terms of superiority so he is not assessing the subject accurately.
Maori society consisted of elite, commoner and slaves. The elite were the central government.
They did things behind the backs of their communities and sent them into war to steal property etc.
Kaimanawa Wall NZ ancient civilisation being covered up by government cant destroy these monster blocks!
We’re are Maori living? In cities?
How many up north? East coast? Most not in cities.
Yet cities are the problem? Who is responsible for Maori culture and behavior? If “Property” is the problem then why are Anglo Celt’s, Indians, Chinese and many Maori not breaking the law and mistreating their children at the same rates?
Trauma of the last 100 years? What of the trauma from before colonization and food security, and freedom from Iwi invasions? All people have family. It’s in surnames.
"Who is responsible for Maori culture and behavior?" The maori people themselves of course.
Tenakoe Joe what about te ika a Maui ko aotearoa the crown have had there fun they haven't stuck to there agreement, of parternership from the
Waitangi teriti tangata whenua were given no choice ,Poverty', one issue
How are are you there l am Rve Clarance barasa OF Jesus Christ church in Kenya amen
Fun? Lol sure, if you consider blood, sweat, tears, suffering and sacrifice "fun"
The Treaty of Waitangi was found to be faulty, and was disqualified at the UN in 1998, then again in 2002 in front of Maori elders at a Circle of Elders meeting in Australia (NSW).
The 'Treaty' was shown to be NEGATIVE in nature, and is a document which traps all New Zealand people into bonded slavery....for ever..!!
The 'Treaty' also aligns with the Treaty of Versailles....which is the 'foolproof' Treaty that traps the entire world into the very same scenario, and the world is clueless..!!
Upoke is the term for Maori
slaves.
They were about 80% of the population prior to the Europeans. They
were the primary source of protein in what was a horrific degeneration of Polynesian
society into rampart structural cannibalism - a period of horror
that lasted some 500 years until they were rescued by the European
The Maori had come with the original Polynesian caste structure of royals, bonded commoners after being outcast and set adrift on rafts to end up stranded in NZ.
Within a recorded period of about 8 generations this then
degenerated into 9 different
language groups ( no common language) and a horrific two
tier ethnically and racially based caste structure.
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Ariki / from the original royal elite - these were documented and
painted or drawn as lighter to white skinned, wiry, smaller boned,
fine featured,
thin nose, thin lipped, straight hair, anxious, aggressive
cannibalistic ruling class.
Upoke / from the original bonded commoners (such bonding or
serfdom broke down in NZ as land was unconstrained) and slaves.
Upoke or poke was used in conjunction with Kuku or Kiko
ie a Upoke Kiko was slave flesh - or else poke singular or pokes
group).
The Upoke slaves were the 'wealth' of the Maoris and raiding and
capturing other clans and tribes Upoke was the primary industry of
the Maoris.
These Upoke were dark skinned,
larger limbed, thick lipped, flat nosed, curly haired, easily
fattened, low IQ and sedentary.
The settlements of the Maoris (Pa's) were in valley passes where
they could anticipate attack from the sea and run into the bush
behind.
A Pa's very design is as a cannibal
storage camp of humans as
slave eating flesh with perimeters controlling access and
confining the slaves.
Have a good look at the original designs of the Pa's and what
their real purpose was.
Upoke females were normally killed and eaten at birth but on
arrival of the Europeans -( trade was for
Upoke boiled male heads carved with European arabesques eg 'Maori
Moko designs - all European) but with a shortage of that & the
trade being policed - the Maori Ariki turned to selling young
Upoke slave girls to the sailors and
settlers for guns. Often as records show, the Ariki would line up
the young Upoke on the beach or field and then tell the Europeans
they would all be slaughtered and eaten unless the European met
their demands.
As such the European settlements were flooded with Upoke slaves,
mainly young females being the demand.
The Europeans bred with these slave females gave immunity to the
mixed race offspring disease such as measles & flu that full
blood Maori did not have.
Again this is subject to much record (1880 onwards) about the
'revitalization' and out breeding of the Maori being their only
path of survival / there was much concern the Maori would become
extinct so all Europeans & Maori were much focused on such
outbreeding to ensure that a trace of Maori may exist in the
future.
By 1903 there were no Ariki left and only 14 very old full blood
Upoke. The last full blood died in 1944 - as reported by the
minister of Maori affairs much later to the NZ parliament.
The marked differences between the Ariki and the slave caste were
much commented on, discussed and captured in paintings &
portraits.
Almost all Maori today would be offspring of Europeans & Upoke
slaves - the filters of inter Maori fratricide between the Ariki
clans & disease
acted as an filter to remove both Ariki and full bloods.
Great info, would love if you could share some of your sources so i can add them to my current search.
E hē. Te katoa o tēnei rūkahu. Waiho tēnei Rūkahu ki te pūkai tūtae reira tō teka ka au.
@@HTDSNZ - there are no sources to this disinformation. Pure rubbish. This is the work of a group seeking to spread disinformation and misinformation as conspiracy to undermine 1,000 years of polynesian history and the co-evolved history of what is now labelled as the māori culture. Almost daily I find these types of rhetoric spreading faster on social media. UA-cam is particularly pernicious. Whomever Jesus Christ is as a UA-cam commentator should invest in fantasy fiction because their level of imaginative story telling is attributable to an extremely well resourced time affluent group focused on the agenda of spreading disinformation and misinformation.
Ultimately this kind of rhetoric is just veiled racism again seeking a position of superiority founded on a pile of false equivalencies, tautologies and pure unadulterated, unreferenceable, unsubstantiated, rūkahu …
Here’s the test … Jesus Christ wrote not just one but two lengthy essay like comments … but can not provide a literature review nor a bibliographical reference point for any of their statements … that alone places this rhetoric in the rubbish bin of UA-cam comments sections.
Utter deplorable fiction. Let this individual stand on any marae ātea and tell this story and they’d get kicked off the the grounds.
@@HTDSNZ 'This Horrid Practice' - Professor Paul Moon, 'Behind The Tattooed Face' - Heretaunga Pat Baker, 'A History Of New Zealand Anthropology In The 19th Century' - H D Skinner
@Robin Tamihere facts dont care about your feelings.
God spoke to Kupe to go to Te moananui a kiwa to find tiritiri o te moana
God sent Rongorongo the wahine prophet and her husband came on the aotea waka
The prophet King Tawhiao needed God's approval where to place his hat on the map of te ika Maui to designated as God's footstool.
The missing link was found in 1953 in te Rohe potae and where the last prophet earth built the home for the spirit
Tino rangatiratanga belongs to God the whetumarama 8 point star is the 8 fruits that are equal to the spirit. Mankind struggle just with one and that fruit is Aroha.
Quite a history about the Maori - put the Inca's or the Aztecs to
shame in degeneration. . Before the advantage of European DNA Maori
suffered terrible inbreeding issues [they are descended from only
150 closely related individuals and an estimated 30% of Maori babies
were killed and eaten at birth because of deformities] Maori DNA is
the most similar yet studied. Outcast as weaker primitive Neolithic
people by the invading Hawaiians & Tongans (Maori were from the
original wave of primitive Asian/Melanesians pushed right out across
the Eastern Pacific by successive stronger races coming from the
west). They were outcast on rafts and some floated up in NZ stranded
for 500 years. The weaker were pushed down to the South Island or
Chathams etc. So the South Island Maori (had their own language)
were the weakest of the weak. They were captured and eaten as 'Slave
flesh' by the northern Maori doing raids. (Well they all ate each
other - 80% of Maori pre European were dark skinned easily fattened
slaves farmed and eaten by a lighter skinned 'Ariki' thin wiry elite
royal caste). So it was with some righteousness as well as British
cunning that they armed the southern Maori who then with muskets
launched a genocidal war on the north.. That plus measles & flu
halved the Maori population and removed most of the elite. The
British then liberated the slaves and stopped cannibalism. The
northern Maori fought with the British against the south bad west
Maori 'rebels'. The Maori sued for peace and a treaty was signed
that removed all sovereignty and made them subjects to the English
crown where the English would protect them from each other. Land
could only be sold to or via the Crown. Maori could live on their
reservations with native custom but none did. The treaty of Waitangi
is strikingly clear in that the Maori cede any claim and give up and
die as an original society - all 3 clauses lock that in. Nothing in
today's 'Maori' culture is authentic. The music - all European
(Maoris did not have tonal music, the songs are missionary tunes or
introduced - Poi dance is from Islands and Stick dance from old
Malaya. The carvings and art - all European - Arabesques that was
the fashion at the time. Original Maori had limited dash carving and
no painting of objects. No written language - all the syntax &
grammar plus vowel inflection is European. No technology - some
lagoon canoes and wood or stone Neolithic tools. No food sources -
like pigs or crops - they left that all behind, all they had was a
weak inbred fox (now extinct), some rats and a weak dismal pacific
yam. They ate out all the bird-life, didn't know how to farm the sea
as were island people and so they turned to societal cannibalism.
Today - no full blood or half blood left. No genuine tradition and
almost all are offspring of Maori slave females sold to white
settlers for muskets or food. -So more fake than the 'Sioux' or
'Cherokee' or 'Crow' who had at least retained some genuineness
about who they were and their history. -Everything you 'saw or
experienced' is Fake. A totally convected disneyfied tokenistic set
of inventions fueled by a grievance culture of almost totally
European people fetishing a false past bad history because it pays
benefits.
you should look into the wairau bar and the recent discoveries regarding mtDNA testing of 3 women
What a lot of uninformed tosh.🙄
Couldn't have said it better
Here you are, behind a keyboard sharing misinformation…. While you watch a successful Māori judge talk facts………………………………………
@Panicc274 no, it's call "mal-infomation" which is true facts that are considered "offensive" to those in power.