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  • @bread3039
    @bread3039 Рік тому +1846

    Apollo bullies a game for 30 minutes.

  • @jastonbrauer9312
    @jastonbrauer9312 Рік тому +992

    My only concern is that if fantasy fans say they hate it, and historical fans say they hate it, they’ll just go back to making fantasy titles because that’s the safer business route

    • @wolftooth6678
      @wolftooth6678 Рік тому +17

      Good!

    • @roguewasbanned4746
      @roguewasbanned4746 Рік тому +87

      Better than sucking up and playing garbage. If only they didn’t update their old games to ruin them

    • @roguewasbanned4746
      @roguewasbanned4746 Рік тому

      @@wolftooth6678 trash opinion detected

    • @legatusgizmo1271
      @legatusgizmo1271 Рік тому +208

      The best solution is to fully lean into fantasy elements in the fantasy games, and fully lean into historical elements for historical games. But they half ass historical games so they don't appeal to either.

    • @leonemitchell1816
      @leonemitchell1816 Рік тому +7

      The internet is only 1% of the total player base

  • @maximusd26
    @maximusd26 Рік тому +828

    at this point i'm just gonna get hired by CA and climb the echelons to actually save the franchise

    • @spiffygonzales5160
      @spiffygonzales5160 Рік тому +57

      Sir, I will quit my job no matter what I'm doing and go clean the friggin toilets for you if you succeed.

    • @maximusd26
      @maximusd26 Рік тому +14

      @@spiffygonzales5160 I'll be the one cleaning toilets for a few years if I do that lmao. looking up their sites and recruiters

    • @thekillers1stfan
      @thekillers1stfan Рік тому +25

      Operation Infiltrate CA has begun

    • @popcornfilms1
      @popcornfilms1 Рік тому +5

      Become the chosen one and save us all

    • @thr1vegaming671
      @thr1vegaming671 Рік тому +2

      Might be faster 😂

  • @VoodooActual
    @VoodooActual Рік тому +504

    5:55 "no heroes!"
    Warhammer players have left the chat
    Thank goodness for no heroes

    • @jaywerner8415
      @jaywerner8415 Рік тому +5

      @@rory6860 In a EGYPT GAME? Did you not see their video? They do have gods you can worship.

    • @COMMANDandConquer199
      @COMMANDandConquer199 Рік тому +20

      There are though. Just because they're not single entity does not mean they're not heros. Do you think they'll let Ramses die in battle on turn 1 like what could happen with the historical generals in Shogun 2? Not a fucking chance.

    • @jaywerner8415
      @jaywerner8415 Рік тому

      @@COMMANDandConquer199 They will probably die once most of their bodyguard is dead. HP Bars are still a thing so he would probably be the last to die.

    • @COMMANDandConquer199
      @COMMANDandConquer199 Рік тому +17

      @@jaywerner8415 "Die" sure, if you mean respawn in a few turns back at your capital.

    • @jaywerner8415
      @jaywerner8415 Рік тому +9

      @@COMMANDandConquer199 I know right. God forbid all your generals Die including your "Famous Historical Character".

  • @trixenpeak2088
    @trixenpeak2088 Рік тому +887

    Your honesty about a franchise that you love makes me believe it more than people who hate the franchise.

    • @wolftooth6678
      @wolftooth6678 Рік тому +6

      Never trust anything that someone who hates a franchise has to say.

    • @roguewasbanned4746
      @roguewasbanned4746 Рік тому +3

      Only because they do some much wrong when all they had to do was recreate what they already had.

    • @RandomBenie
      @RandomBenie Рік тому +16

      @@roguewasbanned4746 They keep trying to redesign the wheel, when they just need to continue making it out of better materials, not reconstruct it.

    • @LarryVickers47
      @LarryVickers47 Рік тому

      Apollo you’re hilarious 😂

    • @thinkwithurdipstick
      @thinkwithurdipstick Рік тому +21

      @@wolftooth6678 oftentimes you’ll find the people who currently hate it used to love it but got tired of getting served hot garbage

  • @JoshuaLikesGrahamCrackers
    @JoshuaLikesGrahamCrackers Рік тому +47

    Vanilla Rome II is a severe disappointment that is entirely accurate. But they were saved by fantastic teams of modders who took that pile of shit and turned it into something actually enjoyable. I think we all know I'm referring to the team that developed Divide Et Impera. They practically saved Rome II.

    • @frenchfry9370
      @frenchfry9370 Рік тому +3

      100% DEI is the only reason I still play Rome 2

  • @shanepealow2052
    @shanepealow2052 Рік тому +71

    I love how Apollo talks about CA like a divorced man talks about his horrible ex wife who ruined his life.

  • @imnothegoat
    @imnothegoat Рік тому +158

    I miss seeing the flags of whichever nation you are on the units

    • @Diogolindir
      @Diogolindir Рік тому +23

      Yea, that green/red icons are weird to me

    • @thekillers1stfan
      @thekillers1stfan Рік тому +33

      The UI in general is so objectively shitty for no reason lol. It's so frustrating that they are keeping it

    • @lloyd9500
      @lloyd9500 Рік тому +10

      hell, I miss flag physics! Now it's just a .gif animation. made by some intern, probably. Where's the attention to detail CA? I beg of you

    • @Eruner279
      @Eruner279 Рік тому

      flags would be too fantasy for the bronze age, no thanks

    • @imnothegoat
      @imnothegoat Рік тому +5

      @@Eruner279 they had flags in the bronze age …

  • @devinkilgallen9708
    @devinkilgallen9708 Рік тому +77

    One of the biggest problems honestly has to be that there appears to be no blood meaning they prob plan on making it another DLC on top of the $60 price tag

    • @StanHowse
      @StanHowse Рік тому +10

      That's been a thing since Shogun 2. As sad as it is, you should expect to have to buy Blood separately.

    • @algotrobertsson8721
      @algotrobertsson8721 Рік тому +11

      ​@@StanHowse nope will never normalize it

    • @StanHowse
      @StanHowse Рік тому +2

      @@algotrobertsson8721 I didn't say it was Normal, nor Right. I simply said Expect it.

  • @Boogfinker
    @Boogfinker Рік тому +51

    Those chariot charges had me dying 😂. Can’t wait to play medieval 2 for another 2 years!

  • @McDevitt117
    @McDevitt117 Рік тому +282

    I can't imagine it would be difficult to take the combat formula from medieval 2 and implement it into a new TW game, but apparently that's not their goal right now.

    • @Mr_D_OG
      @Mr_D_OG Рік тому +73

      i have a feeling they forgot or lost interest in unit colision completely,although shogun 2 combat is quite enjoyable specially the charges and the blood still it would be nice to havea new engine that combined the best aspects of the former engines although this will not happen.

    • @victorromano6707
      @victorromano6707 Рік тому

      What is the combat formula of Med 2?

    • @detroitdave9512
      @detroitdave9512 Рік тому +17

      Imagine Medieval 3 on the shogun 2 engine....

    • @andreguimaraes4355
      @andreguimaraes4355 Рік тому +24

      Idk what happened with unit colision. It is understandable with empire that was when they developed the current engine, but by the time of shogun 2 they had it fixed. Then it seems that they broke it for Rome 2 and never fixed again

    • @user-td1jj8ll8y
      @user-td1jj8ll8y Рік тому +23

      ​@@victorromano6707 Basically we are talking about the combat simulation on the individual unit level. In the old games, there were subtle yet important differences which had a huge ripple effect up to the tactical level. They were much more dynamic and realistic. The newer games are basically a statistical numbers game - check the stats and roll a dice for each 1v1 "duel".

  • @NRocky94
    @NRocky94 Рік тому +79

    "Let's start with the positive : it plays like Troy" Also triggered me hard lol

  • @franklydum5056
    @franklydum5056 Рік тому +266

    Id love to see a new battle engine that gives us hours long seiges long pitch battles again.

    • @emperorantares7951
      @emperorantares7951 Рік тому +42

      Im not trashing,but imagine a 1 hour long siege just so the game crashes and you need to fight again
      That would be an insta unninstalling for me

    • @franklydum5056
      @franklydum5056 Рік тому +6

      Ive had that happen once or twice on rome 1 and i was punching walls. I still think longer battles had more potential for a tactical approach and didnt feel like a quick mass brawl .

    • @TheAchilles26
      @TheAchilles26 Рік тому +27

      ​@@emperorantares7951new engine anyway, so just include mid-battle saves in the new features

    • @KleinesStein
      @KleinesStein Рік тому +9

      What people don’t realise is that battles are both too short and too long. At the same time. Realistically any actual engagement in the ancient world (and medieval era prior to guns) would only last minutes due to exhaustion, but then would start up again after a rest. Oftentimes “battles” would last days as the skirmishing part would take a while before the main forces fully engaged in a massive pitched fight (which lasted very little time, no more than 30 minutes often because of exhaustion). So you have this issue where the game cannot achieve either result due to its design and nature. Also sieges are completely a problem in that you would not just be sitting outside a city for the multiple weeks (or months) to siege it down, you would be continuously launching things with siege equipment to wear down the defence. It’s not a single battle that makes the city fall or the besieged leave, but just the slow grind down which is hard to do in a turn based game. Also note that the settlement shouldn’t be the only ones suffering attrition during a siege, as it was often the besiegers that had the most issues with their attrition due to having completely foraged the surrounding area. Honestly it’s pretty unrealistic no matter what you do, and nobody will ever be truly happy with the results. Cheers!

    • @jaywerner8415
      @jaywerner8415 Рік тому +23

      Or better yet, Muti Phase Battles. A new Engine though is LONG over due.

  • @TheMissing8
    @TheMissing8 Рік тому +18

    It's ironic that the company is called Creative Assembly considering it is one of the least innovative game developers. They could have a staged battle system, for example a skirmishing phase of battle where vanguard calvary and light infantry meet before the armies are fully assembled for battle. This historically often happened in antiquity where foragers and scouts would meet and skirmish before sending messengers back to the army camps to notify them and ready them for battle.
    You could have a retreating stage where a small section of your army could break off and raid the enemies baggage train at their camp. Often times the veteran soldiers would have all of their personal belongings and many times family members that traveled with them on campaign so losing the baggage train was a big deal and hit morale very hard. This historically happened often and would be another cool gameplay mechanic. This could be further developed on the campaign map as defeated armies that had their camp raided could suffer morale and supply penalties. I'm thinking you implement a post battle system similar to CK3 for this with defeated armies needing to retreat and regroup before reengaging. These are just a few concepts I thought of on the fly. Clearly modern gaming on the triple A level has developed to suits making heavy handed decisions and the dollar being king.

  • @therabidbanshee824
    @therabidbanshee824 Рік тому +136

    My biggest wants in terms of what to bring back are
    1. Stylized huds that feel thematic
    2. Stylized unit cards (learned to love Rome 2s mosaic art style)
    3. Unit banners
    4. Real general speeches
    5. Naval battles
    6. Chivalry/Dread mechanic from Med 2
    7. Tangible control of city development (military vs commerce, with battlements upgrades as you upgrade your city IE med 2)
    8. Non instant diplomacy (I know it's inconvenient/slow but having a high level diplomat felt so satisfying)
    9. Control of armor/weapon upgrades in custom/multi-player battles IE Rome and Med 2
    10. Literally just a full base game without having to pay DLC for a faction you locked away. I get DLC for expansions (legit ones) but DLC for blood or factions is ridiculous (and it's been a problem for over a decade)
    We Literally used to have this in TW, and now have to beg for scraps while WH gets skilled out constantly

    • @nenemuy
      @nenemuy Рік тому +6

      I feel like a whole new engine is required before this can have a chance in becoming reality

    • @user-vh6gs7kn8o
      @user-vh6gs7kn8o Рік тому +21

      Dang man ive only ever heard people shit on the rome 2 cards, I think theyre awesome too - so much flavour to the units.

    • @snakeguy8646
      @snakeguy8646 Рік тому +3

      @@user-vh6gs7kn8o I remember the initial problem was it was so new and units no matter the faction looked the exact same so it was semi difficult to differentiate in the moment

    • @littledado6025
      @littledado6025 Рік тому +8

      i agree, i love the unit cards in rome 2, so intuitive, so simple to see wich unit is who, i tried DEI and i HATE IT the DEI units cards

    • @littledado6025
      @littledado6025 Рік тому +2

      ​@@snakeguy8646 i think that was not the problem, the problem was that rome 2 has little variety to units, 90% of the factions got the same units with just a tweaked a little bit

  • @spiffygonzales5160
    @spiffygonzales5160 Рік тому +26

    Rumor is they're gonna make Assyria and Babylon DLC.
    Theyre gonna charge you for Assyria and Babylon... in a bronze age game 😑

    • @Diogolindir
      @Diogolindir Рік тому +11

      As they insist on charging on blood dlcs in a WAR based game

  • @ThaFlyinHawaiian
    @ThaFlyinHawaiian Рік тому +153

    I’d love to see CA try and address all these criticisms 😂😂

    • @stefankatsarov5806
      @stefankatsarov5806 Рік тому +38

      They just shadow ban the critics intill they come begging them to be whitelisted again and never say a bad word ever.

    • @gauntlettcf5669
      @gauntlettcf5669 Рік тому +33

      ​@@stefankatsarov5806 Thank God Pixie is not like that. When he decided to say enough is enough to CA, he didn't back down when they terminated their relationship with him. That's what all creators should strive to do.

  • @markussharkus6727
    @markussharkus6727 Рік тому +190

    A new game to watch my units mathematical equation face another units mathematical equation represented by a bunch of guys doing random things without actually interacting

    • @Sobek1776
      @Sobek1776 Рік тому +2

      But they have interactions? They announced that there are combat animations where the units will react to weapon attacks and perform counters and even showed gameplay. Like rome 2. Actual combat animations for units in battle

    • @markussharkus6727
      @markussharkus6727 Рік тому +27

      @@Sobek1776 some random interactions sure maybe but I guess my comment is more to the fact that nothing you see really matters or is a factor in the combat. It’s just equations playing out and maybe a couple guys dancing a death scene. Look at the gameplay it’s still the same old blobs slashing at ghosts

    • @AXU67
      @AXU67 Рік тому +4

      Are you complaining that units have stats and that these stats are taken into account? I mean with or without fancy combat animations it comes down to "mathematical equation vs mathematical equation" in any case.
      Or if it's just about wanting movie fight choreographies as in Rome II or Shogun II, I can understant that, even if I somewhat disagree

    • @lloyd9500
      @lloyd9500 Рік тому +19

      @@AXU67 the stats should be taken into account for the units actually engaged in combat. Now what we've got is an RTS styled clash of "units" that "math off" against each other where unit weight, size, slashing movements, physical contact, etc. aren't considered. Hell even fucking Rome 2 did away with the old fashioned TW formula where shields were ACTUALLY shields. I know right! Now shields are a "representation" of defense stats. They do nothing more than give the player visual feedback that this soldier has a higher defense stat than one without a shield (in most cases). Shields used to actually protect the unit model from being hit by projectiles. It's all smoke and mirrors. This is why people are itching for Manor Lords so we can ditch CA for pastures new.

    • @LordVader1094
      @LordVader1094 Рік тому +6

      @@Sobek1776 WOOOOW MATCHED COMBAT ANIMATIONS SUCH A BIG DEAL
      Lmao, still a bunch of stat equations instead of actual wounds and armour systems that matter like in Rome 1 and Medieval 2

  • @Jake-hd7lt
    @Jake-hd7lt Рік тому +16

    dude i was literally cracking up hard during this. The part with the chairots was single handedly enough to make me not want the game. Unbelievable lmao

  • @munkey69
    @munkey69 Рік тому +94

    I am so glad there are still reasonable people and youtubers like you Apollo and Volound. Props to you lads keep pushing for the better of this community

  • @LowryYT
    @LowryYT Рік тому +145

    Can't wait for them to bring faction banners back!

  • @rhysdbooth
    @rhysdbooth Рік тому +102

    Man, it's incredible seeing you go from boy to man, Apollo. I've been watching you since my early/mid-twenties, and now I am 33; it feels like I've grown up watching your channel. I appreciate it!

    • @podomuss
      @podomuss Рік тому +6

      I’ve been watching since I was about 11 and am turning 18

    • @briand8180
      @briand8180 Рік тому +1

      Agree been a long time fan of the channel!

    • @dibanksmookhrg3554
      @dibanksmookhrg3554 Рік тому +2

      Didn't even know he cut his hair shit looks good

    • @jamesschaller753
      @jamesschaller753 Рік тому +2

      I was 16 in almost 25 now crazy!

    • @itstriplem2069
      @itstriplem2069 Рік тому +1

      Bruh I've been watching him since elementary school in the second grade and now I am a Freshman in college.

  • @magnithorsson2154
    @magnithorsson2154 Рік тому +72

    Cant wait to see Rameses use his Uber Egypt Man ability to give +5 billion melee defense

  • @eimhingalvin8864
    @eimhingalvin8864 Рік тому +20

    I am an archaeologist ...... I am screaming at the screen over the huge lightsaber-looking 'bronze age swords'. why are they bigger than the soldiers whole arm, bronze age swords with the exception of northern European rapiers are short affairs !
    first mod for this game will have to be a historical reskin

  • @geod5
    @geod5 Рік тому +3

    Oh god they still use unit health bars. Nothing worse seeing lightly armored archers tanking shots until their green bar says they have taken enough damage to actually start loosing models xD.

  • @imnothegoat
    @imnothegoat Рік тому +30

    Honestly at this point im waiting for manor lords

  • @enldd
    @enldd Рік тому +7

    Yeah call me when they develop a new engine... Back to Shogun 2 lmaooo

    • @TheBonzobonzo
      @TheBonzobonzo Рік тому +1

      They need to spend a good 3-4, maybe even 5 years developing a new engine and resetting everything and making an amazing and fantastic Medieval 3, the variety of combat and economy in this period would allow the engine to be easily moved into either later or earlier history!

  • @TheBonzobonzo
    @TheBonzobonzo Рік тому +85

    They need to spend a good 3-4, maybe even 5 years developing a new engine and resetting everything and making an amazing and fantastic Medieval 3, the variety of combat and economy in this period would allow the engine to be easily moved into either later or earlier history!

  • @spiffygonzales5160
    @spiffygonzales5160 Рік тому +62

    Still looks like Troy Arcade Strategy 😐

  • @MedjayofFaiyum
    @MedjayofFaiyum Рік тому +13

    31:18 - Jackie is absoutely right. Charging £50 - We should have larger battle maps, and we need Mesopotamia.
    ADD MESOPOTAMIA!

    • @captainnyet9855
      @captainnyet9855 Рік тому +8

      Mesopotamia will likely be added as "culture pack" DLC; that way they can charge you an extra 20.

    • @MedjayofFaiyum
      @MedjayofFaiyum Рік тому

      @shadygamer8722 did you purchase it?

    • @MedjayofFaiyum
      @MedjayofFaiyum Рік тому

      @@captainnyet9855 could be could be

  • @ryandruff5066
    @ryandruff5066 Рік тому +10

    "I never thought I would sink so low" lmfao

  • @nadershah5196
    @nadershah5196 Рік тому +8

    Apollo woke up and chosed fax

    • @kingmarre9130
      @kingmarre9130 Рік тому

      No he chosed bitch and moan

    • @nadershah5196
      @nadershah5196 Рік тому +1

      @@kingmarre9130 it's better than being the CA'S bitch taking the same shit they put out just to say we did a historical

    • @NRocky94
      @NRocky94 Рік тому +1

      @@kingmarre9130 100% the right choice.

  • @quimble2177
    @quimble2177 Рік тому +4

    He says "If you told me this was a mod for troy, I'd probably believe you" and I shit you not, when I saw the first video I did, of the game, my first assumption was "someone modded Troy to look like the new game lol"

  • @carlosfurtado1164
    @carlosfurtado1164 Рік тому +6

    This is why I don't buy new(ish) games anymore. The fact that you pay 50 pounds for a game with very little features AND you have to buy several DLCs to complete it is outrageous and not even justifiable

  • @rexvictorhardrada
    @rexvictorhardrada Рік тому +9

    All we want is a medieval 2 remake with good graphics, better politics, ai, and TO NOT GLITCH ON THE WALL EVERYTIME IT GETS HIT WITH A CANNON. been asking for that for a decade.

    • @jojoabc100
      @jojoabc100 Рік тому

      Keep hoping

    • @rexvictorhardrada
      @rexvictorhardrada Рік тому +1

      @@jojoabc100 i thought they were thinking about it when they made a mobile version of mtw2

  • @gwalon2089
    @gwalon2089 Рік тому +49

    At the moment I´m playing a lot of ntw and there´s just a whole other level of positioning and movement tactics than in this game it seems. Like when you defend, you have to watch what your opponent is doing, reposition troops and look for adventagious points on the map. In Pharaoh it just seems to be like "Ok, you´re charging me so I´ma charge you too!" - 5 minutes later the battle is over.

  • @aroniasdecus
    @aroniasdecus Рік тому +10

    Imagine spending 50 bucks on current day CA. I’ll pay 50 bucks for manor lord

  • @0815Catgus
    @0815Catgus Рік тому +75

    I watched this guy when i was like 10-13 and since then always wanted a pc to play Napoleon.
    After a few years i find his channel again with new a hairstyle and completely based redpill takes.
    Definitely going to stay subscribed.

    • @whybother7632
      @whybother7632 Рік тому +1

      ikr this guy made napoleon sound so fun

    • @Shvetsario
      @Shvetsario Рік тому +2

      @@whybother7632 I remember watching his videos in class with my friend, lmao. We'd analyze the battle and discuss possible tactics and movements as we watched.

    • @whybother7632
      @whybother7632 Рік тому

      @@Shvetsario ISad to see what pixleated apollo is now compared to back then he plays games no one wants to see

    • @mickethegoblin7167
      @mickethegoblin7167 Рік тому

      ​@@whybother7632 oof

  • @mathisurien4031
    @mathisurien4031 Рік тому +5

    about a minute in and i could sense the the unfinished part of this sentence " i predict it's gonna look like troy, they are gonna bring back old features and pretend they are new and and exciting, and erm yeah thats it." let me finish that sentence for you apollo, "... and erm, CA are gonna find a new way to f*** it up again."
    seriously, who here thinks it's going to have a botched launch? or just be downright terrible?

  • @pjr1279
    @pjr1279 Рік тому +4

    Im more hyped for Attila map modding

  • @D00Rb3LL
    @D00Rb3LL Рік тому +45

    I’ve been dying for CA to to add elements from the game “Ultimate General: Civil War” to their battles. Make it so I can’t see the enemies army and need to send out scouts to determine their position, add supply chains, logistics, larger maps with multiple potential places the battle could take place.

    • @nogisonoko5409
      @nogisonoko5409 Рік тому +5

      Sending scouts and give fog of war is definitely a good idea, but adding supply chains? That is a terrible idea, and adding along with larger map is a recipe for suffering in the game.

    • @dfgfgh244
      @dfgfgh244 Рік тому +1

      supply would be pain, Having to send scouts however would be interesting though you'd have to dedicated the 20unit limit to some scout units then so that may make thing interesting.

    • @D00Rb3LL
      @D00Rb3LL Рік тому +5

      @@dfgfgh244 Yeah or there are some alternatives:
      Option 1: Every army has "scout" units that are separate from your army stack. (They only appear on the battle map and you don't see them on the campaign map) They will only have 5 - 20 men in their unit and are extremely weak in a fight, but fast.
      Option 2: Cavalry has the ability to "detach scouts", the manpower for the scout detachment comes from the cav unit they are detached from. They will have the ability to return to their original unit.
      Also I disagree that supply would be pain as long as it is done in a fun way. I have some ideas, but at the end of the day it's subjective. Logisitics is just so important in warfare and I would love to see it represented and add a new level of depth to the game.

    • @ClassicRockLivesOn
      @ClassicRockLivesOn Рік тому +3

      Ultimate General Civil War was awesome- not a perfect game but so much better than CA's stuff- I loved how you can pick out your commanders, choose the weapons your troops use, level them up. There was a lot of detail in that game.

    • @dfgfgh244
      @dfgfgh244 Рік тому +1

      @@ClassicRockLivesOn The only thing I have a problem with UGCV is that its pretty hard even on easier difficulties, by that I mean trying to get high level brigades without constantly spending money after every battle to ensure they dont lost xp is a tad annoying as the levels they once had get lost from getting fresh recruits

  • @Lemgardandre
    @Lemgardandre Рік тому +15

    spear was king on ancient battlefield and in the east archery was dominant, archers were combined with shield bearers that had huge shields to protect the archers.

  • @thundernut7390
    @thundernut7390 Рік тому +7

    jackie sound like a paid actor

  • @banjokazooie370
    @banjokazooie370 Рік тому +14

    “It plays like Troy” so this will be a hard pass from me then.

  • @baldr2510
    @baldr2510 Рік тому +3

    I have thought these things for so long, but all the youtube channels I watched completely kiss CA's toes. Glad to have found you.

  • @goatscream8345
    @goatscream8345 Рік тому +4

    Local man gets angry at product that has not come out yet

  • @iratespartan13
    @iratespartan13 Рік тому +15

    I want "unit diversity" i.e. pooping Frogs not immersive tactics, sieges and sandbox gameplay...

    • @sephiroaone-of-nine101
      @sephiroaone-of-nine101 Рік тому +1

      No, I dont the same bland spear unit for 5 factions....I want each nation to represent itself in it's own cultural flare that's what unit diversity is to us

    • @sephiroaone-of-nine101
      @sephiroaone-of-nine101 Рік тому

      @@xplicitfishin not even I'm the slightest of what I was talking about

  • @waterboytiger
    @waterboytiger Рік тому +11

    yes im gonna buy the full 60 dollars or whatever and play it for a total of three hours like three kingdoms and troy then go back to playing my medieval 2 and ntw3

    • @louischerik4557
      @louischerik4557 Рік тому

      don't, stop being a mindless buyer, that's only encouraging them
      pirate it if you wanna play it lol

    • @waterboytiger
      @waterboytiger Рік тому +1

      @@louischerik4557 i dont want to play it i just have to i have ensllaved myself to the CA gods

    • @louischerik4557
      @louischerik4557 Рік тому +1

      @@waterboytiger terrible consoomer mindset, litterally a slave to big corporations

    • @lukaskubik4698
      @lukaskubik4698 Рік тому +1

      Why not buy a good strategy game instead ?

    • @waterboytiger
      @waterboytiger Рік тому

      any suggestions you could give me?

  • @marioswalewski9376
    @marioswalewski9376 Рік тому +16

    Always looking forward to another apollo video lol,bro you make my day and please continue making rome 2 videos. i started watching you when i was five, and now im
    14,you made me love history and the ancient world and i still enjoy watching god bless you man❤

    • @KB8Killa
      @KB8Killa Рік тому +3

      This is so wholesome

  • @tag10
    @tag10 Рік тому +4

    I don’t understand why they are going to Egypt for the “historical” game. It’s a rubbish setting that we know too little about to make a “historical” game. Was really wishing for M3TW

  • @LOLOlex
    @LOLOlex Рік тому +4

    why does the unit cards look like mobile game icons

  • @TURBOtanker112
    @TURBOtanker112 Рік тому +3

    I still can't believe there are no banners and regimental officers/musicians

  • @Zaga_
    @Zaga_ Рік тому +9

    I actually love Apollo being honest. Keep up the good work man

  • @maximusd26
    @maximusd26 Рік тому +31

    Apollo i'm surprised you don't do Divide et Impera battle replays. fits way better the style you describe and that I also love for battles !

    • @PixelatedApollo1
      @PixelatedApollo1  Рік тому +39

      I should play it more

    • @dylanram4653
      @dylanram4653 Рік тому +6

      @@PixelatedApollo1 id love to see divide et impera battles more often, it makes the game soo much better

    • @cseijifja
      @cseijifja Рік тому +1

      @@PixelatedApollo1 really man, i watch toxborg videos and is everything i ever wanted from rome, within the constraints of their dumb engine.

    • @maximusd26
      @maximusd26 Рік тому

      @@cseijifja he's awesome, from the narrative campaigns to the battle tactics guides

    • @wawaweewa9159
      @wawaweewa9159 Рік тому

      ​@@PixelatedApollo1 not necessarily campaign but multipalyer tournaments

  • @trungeldorethemagicbear7196
    @trungeldorethemagicbear7196 Рік тому +6

    oh man thank god someone actually said something I felt like i was going crazy, this game looks boring as fuck. Shogun 2 still makes any other TW game look like a joke.

  • @HistoricalWeapons
    @HistoricalWeapons Рік тому +1

    It’s realistic that routed troops leave and scatter and then come back and regroup. Nobody cares where to rout when they are running for their lives

  • @charlesorne5813
    @charlesorne5813 Рік тому +7

    Love this "react" video. Honesty is in short supply these days. Thank you sir.

  • @nathanhale3338
    @nathanhale3338 Рік тому +4

    100% agree with u Apollo. All these new games sound really interesting, however none of them have depth, and they’re all copy paste just like a communist country building a neighborhood.

  • @Macakzzz
    @Macakzzz Рік тому +10

    This is troy. Like the same everything. Like troy "historical" mode
    I bet the slingers shoot upwars and you can run through the units more easy

  • @jaco6971
    @jaco6971 Рік тому

    This was a nice refreshing style of video Apollo, I like the reaction/breakdown style a lot!

  • @Leaffordes
    @Leaffordes Рік тому +4

    19:26 Omg, there's so much going on here. Apart from the two flying soldiers (another one in the center-screen), I love the short standoff between the naked random man and the spear-boy in the lower left corner; the spear-boy awkwardly turns around and is like: "You want some of this?" before stabbing the naked man.

  • @titiusvicinius7041
    @titiusvicinius7041 Рік тому +3

    lmao genuinely more hyped for Rise of Mordor than, whatever this troy 2.0 they try to throw at us

  • @Luke1902
    @Luke1902 Рік тому +7

    Literally my comment on ca’s video is that its boring and looks like a mobile game, 50 quid for a troy dlc is crazy
    Imagine manor lords (a city builder) battles being way more exiting than a battle focused game

  • @harryhinkins3676
    @harryhinkins3676 Рік тому +4

    I dont understand why they are making some inf units smaller than others like in troy. Like I dont want to fiddle around with a 90 man unit where are my 160 old guards or praetorians

    • @politedog4959
      @politedog4959 Рік тому +2

      its 2023, the fact that we cant play cohort/battalion (~800 men) or even regiment (~2000) sized units is just sad. Id rather give up on some of the unit details like insanely detailed brooches, but gain the ability to play massive 2 hour 4v4 100k battles

  • @kingbr47
    @kingbr47 Рік тому +7

    Its so good to hear the honest frustration of someone else about this franchise. I hope your words reach CA's ears someday, because the last games are infuriatingly disappointing.

  • @-scorpionox-
    @-scorpionox- Рік тому +7

    How is it possible to regress this much when you've been making the same kind of games for so long? Please help this make sense.

    • @Diogolindir
      @Diogolindir Рік тому

      Rome 2 is still King

    • @chico9805
      @chico9805 Рік тому +5

      The people who made the good games are long gone.

    • @politedog4959
      @politedog4959 Рік тому +3

      @@Diogolindir eh, good graphics, but im so mad they took out so many features from Rome 1, especially in campaign diplomacy etc

    • @mickethegoblin7167
      @mickethegoblin7167 Рік тому

      ​@@Diogolindir lol, no

  • @hibyps4
    @hibyps4 Рік тому +1

    Had to go back and watch one of your medieval 2 3v3 siege videos to revive my soul after seeing this footage

  • @viktorpal1466
    @viktorpal1466 Рік тому +2

    TW is evolving backwards. I go back to my Shogun 2 campaign.

  • @cisfan
    @cisfan Рік тому +7

    I miss the old total Wars I wish empire would have been developed more and ran better

  • @samanyupalthi
    @samanyupalthi Рік тому +45

    A reason why i like Apollo is his mindset towards shorts and Reaction videos is really something which i feel is close to my opinions! These reaction videos, speculations and Shorts are ruining mainstream content! They do that because people would rather watch those and satisfy their emotions than watch a proper long form video!

  • @CrzBonKerz21
    @CrzBonKerz21 Рік тому +2

    What I’m curious about is… what TW fan asked for this game? What are the business facts behind not doing sequels to Medieval? Shogun? Napoleon? Empire?
    It seems they just make what they think is best, not what the players want.

  • @hrodvitnir6725
    @hrodvitnir6725 Рік тому +17

    First honest reaction video I ever seen haha. Based Apollo!
    I havent bought a TW since Atilla and I dont be buying this either from the look of it.
    Also about the dynamic weather, kinda dont get the point of it tbh. Historically people have always tried to wait out bad/extreme weather...

    • @rustyshackleford2841
      @rustyshackleford2841 Рік тому +2

      Good point. Opps! Many forgot.😅

    • @ASH-su6nb
      @ASH-su6nb Рік тому

      historically people wouldnt commit to a siege either but we want bigger siege maps that makes it easier for attackers

    • @hrodvitnir6725
      @hrodvitnir6725 Рік тому +1

      @@ASH-su6nb strange how history is filled with seiges then

    • @ASH-su6nb
      @ASH-su6nb Рік тому

      @@hrodvitnir6725 most of the being thee attackers surronding a city for a while until the other side gives up

    • @hrodvitnir6725
      @hrodvitnir6725 Рік тому +1

      @@ASH-su6nb simply not true my man. Read a book, or two.

  • @Egerlander_
    @Egerlander_ Рік тому +46

    I can't help but see really big similarity with Troy. The in-battle icons and overall looks, the icons of resources in campaign map and stuff. Also although I am excited for this era as it is quite a jump from other TW games, I'm a bit worried about units diversity as it looks like we will have like 3 factions to play with (Hittites, Egypt, Canaan + at least 1 non-playable). Troy wasn't THAT much bad overall, but the battles just felt se boring for me and I'm worried about the same result in Pharaoh. Looking forward to trying it nevertheless.

    • @stefankatsarov5806
      @stefankatsarov5806 Рік тому +4

      The same studio that made Troy is making it.
      It is also on the same engine.

    • @Egerlander_
      @Egerlander_ Рік тому +6

      @@stefankatsarov5806 That is only fueling my worries. But let's hope for the best. :-)

    • @RomanHistoryFan476AD
      @RomanHistoryFan476AD Рік тому +19

      It's Troy with an Egypt paint job, Bet it's same engine, same game code, just differing look and maps.

    • @BigBossXCV
      @BigBossXCV Рік тому

      Yeah you are buying a 60$ reskin. Fu** CA

    • @ne0nmancer
      @ne0nmancer Рік тому

      The thing is, the UI is one of the easiest things to restylize and customize between games, but i bet they got some stuck up UX department that wants to streamline all the UI and make everything as boring and minimalist as possible, i see this UI style it all the time in Ubisoft and EA games and you can bet it's some sort of new industry standard.

  • @connormckendrick4162
    @connormckendrick4162 Рік тому +5

    i got 5 mins into this video before i could honestly hold back saying it looks like garbage and will not be buying it. why WHY WHYYYYYYY cant we get improved games in the year 2023 it has been the most disappointing time in video history and this disgusts me as a money grab, as a series i use to look at as a historical combat game what the actually f**k. Wait while i go throw up over how gross this is. waita ruin it CA, imma go play age of empires 2 like when i was 10 16 years ago wtf lol

    • @PixelatedApollo1
      @PixelatedApollo1  Рік тому +6

      Capitalism is not good at making beautiful art but it’s only about making money

    • @connormckendrick4162
      @connormckendrick4162 Рік тому +1

      @@PixelatedApollo1 love you as the truth keeper apollo keep your standards! i know its hard not to sell out sometimes but i and the boys who love you appreciate it no matter how small it might seem

  • @marcuschousal3857
    @marcuschousal3857 Рік тому +1

    We need to go to Empire/Napoleon time. This time period is a perfect sandbox to fine tune both infantry and naval combat. Close skirmishes, calvary charges, bayonet charges, musket fire, and artillery barrages are all possible.

  • @chungus1219
    @chungus1219 Рік тому +1

    Change the name of the video to “Apollo just destroy a game for 36 minutes”

  • @kreg857
    @kreg857 Рік тому +3

    9:23 I'm pretty sure they were "inspired" by this certain game called Manor Lords to add in this feature. The exact same thing is made by an indie game producer.

  • @Taskicore
    @Taskicore Рік тому +5

    Sigh. I remember waking up early in the morning before school so I could play Medieval 2. I know it wasn't a perfect game, it had its issues, but it was so much better than these new arcade total wars.

  • @biggyboijerry3460
    @biggyboijerry3460 Рік тому +1

    “YOU WONT BELIEVE WHAT UNITS ARE IN THIS GAME”😳😦😦

  • @ne0nmancer
    @ne0nmancer Рік тому +2

    CA had to wait for Manor Lords to have the idea to implement a retreat mechanic?

  • @mathieuguay9907
    @mathieuguay9907 Рік тому +11

    guess Ill be sticking to Rome 2 for another decade at this point

  • @Gworgalad
    @Gworgalad Рік тому +3

    Did they confirm no "heroes"? It's "ancient" Egypt. I'm sure we'll get a Nile Croc DLC with Moon Knight skin.

  • @jojoabc100
    @jojoabc100 Рік тому +2

    Give me that fat frog Apollo

  • @etofnbrother1965
    @etofnbrother1965 Рік тому

    Ngl this turned into a try to not laugh😂 love you Apollo

  • @christophermcmanus5103
    @christophermcmanus5103 Рік тому +23

    Maps should be 10x the size, you should start in a marching column & the enemy should be difficult to spot. A battle should take 40min & involve you using scouts to explore terrain & try to find the enemy before engaging.

    • @Eruner279
      @Eruner279 Рік тому +5

      no thanks. Sounds like terrible and tedious player experience. 10+ minutes of scouting and doing nothing engaging, who enjoys that? Go play hide and seek with your friends instead.

    • @christophermcmanus5103
      @christophermcmanus5103 Рік тому +5

      @@Eruner279 well it's part of the challenge to make it more rewarding, trying to find the enemy, trying to find the best ground, trying to find & occupy it first before the enemy, accidentally bumping into the enemy mid manoeuvre in a forest because you didn't scout effectively & being on the back foot. That's all half the actual battle.
      But you want to just line them up in blocks before the game starts & move your troops forward, the same tactics of fix & outflank over & over? Sounds dull as hell

    • @konradvonschnitzeldorf6506
      @konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 Рік тому +6

      ​@@Eruner279We had so many Casual Total Wars with 3 Minute Battles now where you don't have to think at all. You must understand, that some people would love a more hardcore strategic version. Something they inagined since early total wars.

    • @Thecodytree
      @Thecodytree Рік тому +3

      reminds me of NTW3’s fog of war mechanic, would definitely make the game more interesting!

    • @flandarn329
      @flandarn329 10 місяців тому

      ​@@Eruner279Average Warhamer player😂😂

  • @SpicyCreamy
    @SpicyCreamy Рік тому +3

    Thank you for being sane

  • @SpartanKosmo
    @SpartanKosmo Рік тому +3

    When I get hit by chariots I also return to my home planet.

  • @spiffywolf2850
    @spiffywolf2850 Рік тому +14

    This looks mid. And I know the blood is gonna be a dlc. Maybe I'll get it if it goes on sale. Till then I can just use the workshop on Rome 2 and Attila and other mods. Buy napoleon and use mods to.

    • @captainnyet9855
      @captainnyet9855 Рік тому +1

      Troy, modded correctly, actually is a game with tons of potential; I will definitely not touch Pharaoh until it's been out for a while and I have confirmation that it's good; if is significantly better than other new TW games I will buy it though.
      I don't care much for ancient Egypt but I do like the time period (although I think CA's representation of it left much to be desied so far) but that matters little to me in general; I wasn't a big fan of Japanese history yet I still ended up loving Shogun 2.

    • @JakeBaldwin1
      @JakeBaldwin1 Рік тому

      @@captainnyet9855 What mods do you recommend for Troy?

  • @andresdelgado9801
    @andresdelgado9801 Рік тому +3

    I am glad you made this video. I had a feeling it would be exactly like troy just without hero’s and honestly I feel like I am right.

  • @BepeTheToad
    @BepeTheToad Рік тому +3

    Opening
    I really don't like the idea of Pharaoh, nobody that I know in the community wanted this 💀, and not many are optimistic. In my opinion, it's a Troy expansion, it's not even a full game.
    Comparison
    What the community wanted:
    - Gunpowder
    - Medieval
    - Historical
    What we got:
    - A big Troy Expansion
    Warhammer has broken the historical games, their battles are quick and you've seen historical battles get quicker. The game is Fantasy, you've seen historical games diverge away from realism
    (I attribute this mostly to them picking an era in history with little historical knowledge, i.e. bronze age and three kingdoms). So I believe for us to get better historical games they need to go back to areas with great historical knowledge which is AGAIN MEDIEVAL AND GUNPOWDER.
    Maps
    They've definitely gotten smaller for sure, i remember playing maps on shogun, Napoleon, and empire. The maps were great, good size variety, more strategies to use, but now were out in a box.

  • @Fordmcfairlane
    @Fordmcfairlane Рік тому +2

    I totally feel you...

  • @pjr1279
    @pjr1279 Рік тому +1

    Bro spitting fact for 36 minutes

  • @gwalon2089
    @gwalon2089 Рік тому +2

    19:43 This animation looks like if it was from like Ultimate epic battle simulator! Like they had to make a bad animation, so it doesn´t decrease the fps or something.

  • @richardlopez5758
    @richardlopez5758 Рік тому +3

    All your criticisms are spot on. It really says something when the older games bring more to the table than the modern ones. Like medieval 2 is still more innovative that Warhammer, Troy, etc. sad state of things. What going on with CA?

  • @medivelmack
    @medivelmack Рік тому +2

    Or, just play as Egypt on Rome II. Saved you $60 bucks.

  • @erenrager6679
    @erenrager6679 Рік тому +2

    Its sad that I would've been more happy that Pharaoh was another Rome 2 clone, rather than an improved Troy.

  • @laurynasg9932
    @laurynasg9932 Рік тому +7

    Looks like a mod....

  • @C-J581
    @C-J581 Рік тому +8

    I hope someone at CA actually watches your video and improves the game accordingly.

    • @Jackbws
      @Jackbws Рік тому +6

      CA stopped listening once they release Warhammer in all honesty

  • @masubili6857
    @masubili6857 Рік тому

    One of the funniest reviews I have seen in a while. Nice job Apollo.

  • @braxtonroberts4105
    @braxtonroberts4105 Рік тому +1

    I laughed so hard when the dudes went flying and he was like $60 bucks ??