FFXIV EXTREME Raiding - This Feels SO DIFFERENT to WoW!
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Now we are done with A Realm Reborn's main story, we are now onto the patch content and FINALLY stepping into some raiding to see what some of the Extremes are like. With Mike having so much experience in WoW's raiding scene, let's see what he thinks.
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Sometimes SE does these "show piece" cutscenes to introduce something new to the game, i.e. a new job (the Rogue / Ninja for the Thancred scene) or other elements. This is why that particular cutscene stands out as much.
also that specific one is probably the most jarring due to the low budget at the time.
I mean, Ninja was not new when the thancred scene dropped, it was one of the ARR jobs, but it's entirely possible that SE likes to show off jobs that are lacking in population, hype up the class fantasy to get people curious. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is why a certain character who shall not be spoiled became an Astrologian later in the story. They do a similar thing with the warrior of light in each expansion to get people playing the job that will have unique job dialogue for MSQ (dragoon in heavensward, monk in Stormblood and dark knight in Shadowbringers - we don't know what Endwalker will be for sure but my money's on paladin, based on the trailer).
@@FabbrizioPlays Ninja was released in 2.4
@@FabbrizioPlays ? rogue/ninja came out in 2.4 not with base ARR
@@FabbrizioPlays Ninja was introduced with 2.3. It wasn't there on ARR launch. So the cutscene, if you were staying current, was introduced before Ninja was available as a playable class.
I think part of the problem is that ppl from other mmos, especially WoW, are stuck in a mindset that all the good content is at the end. So they're in a big rush to power through to endgame. It took me a while to learn that this game really is more about the journey.
Agreed, also your name reminds me of a Mekk-Knight Card. Though, I haven't played Yu-Gi-Oh in so long.
Better to get out of the mindset of World of Warcraft's End Game and enjoy the journey!
wow is not even the only game that ended up convincing people that end game is the only true part of the game you enjoyed, ffxiv took that shit and throw it out the window, and is the reason why is so good
It's a theme park MMO. It's about whatever you want it to be about. Some people only like the endgame stuff and that's fine.
If you're talking about ARR patch content - while that's true, there was also a lot of problems that were trimmed or cut out of the patches that helped streamline it in 5.3. 2.1 for instance had like 9 quests deleted because they were all padding. 2.3 had a really annoying bit in the Sylphlands that was kind of funny but went on for like three quests and no flying made it ass. And a bunch of other little stuff throughout the patches.
I think the main reason is ffxiv doesn’t make part content irrelevant the same way wow does. Specially if you consider alts. Who does old raid at the cap level of a given expansion with gear of that expansion? Loads of raids aren’t even available anymore. Also the timeline of the world is completely bonkers in wow, and not just because of cataclysm.
The moogle boss was added at the last second because the original fight was supposed to be leviathan but the tsunami had just hit Japan so they made a light hearted fight instead of a giant tidal wave monster.
That was only true back in 1.0. in 1.0 the primal fights were Ifrit, Garuda, and King Mog. They avoided Titan and Leviathan because of the earthquake and tsunami warnings at the time.
"light hearted"
Yeah they had Leviathan and Titan planned for the same release, wouldn't have been such a great timing considering the earthquake and tsunami that happened... :(
Albeit tbh King Moogle Mog fight is anything but 'light hearted'.....
@@HadeaRin I love King Moogle Mog's Music. Though it's the only fight where I can beat the living hell out of moogles for stuff that's in Heavensward. Besides one of the lv60 dungeons anyway. Ugh, moogles are one of the greatest pastimes of wanting to kill them. lol
didn't like the way you said week-END
Hii Limit, how are you?
Weak-END
Hi limit
Hi Limit, try SWTOR
Nice ui haha
When all the backflips started in the cutscene is also the patch that introduced the Rogue class and Ninja job. That shift was just showing off the job aesthetic
Yeah, this is perfect to point out as to why that cutscene is so different. It is one of the only times they added a class/job in patch content and part of the story itself, rather than as part of an expansion release where they would show the separate preview videos like they did with Sage/Reaper most recently.
I mean, it's fair to say that there are other "larger than life" cutscene elements later on down the line too, but FF does do a good job of rationing out those moments so it never feels like it dips into full blown anime. Just enough anime. ;)
Context: we see Thancred (rogue) in action for the first time (he was just an observer prior to this), and Yugiri (ninja) points out the style similarities and says he'd make a good Ninja, formally tying the class and job together.
And when you are jumping with the Ninja job equipped, you do flips.
@@vaidenkelsier7757 very true as well, but those are more about big moments rather than showing off “anime style” moves like the flipping/showing off that Thancred was doing in this particular instance. Funny thing is in Pre-HW content, that has always been one of my favorite cutscenes. It finally showed he could actually fight and do something. :)
@@cinshome2 Oh it's one of my favs too. :) I'm trying to understand where Preach is coming from. I think people who aren't as familiar with the genre assume everything is always super extra, when it's more of a gradient than an identifier, if that makes sense. A sliding scale of insanity. :D
That cutscene was just rule of cool and letting the characters be proficient, which is something that's a bit sparing in ARR.
If you’re worried about not being able to see things in alliance raids, there’s a setting in the options to make other players’ particle effects invisible.
Where is that option?
@@michaelyun2407 Character Config - > Character Tab -> Battle Effects Settings
@@michaelyun2407 Character options. You can set the effects for yourself, party members, other players, and enemies separately.
Yeah I recommend setting the spell effects for people in your party to limited and turn them off completely for people not in your party. Theres a setting to turn off names for people not in your party aswell when in combat and both of those together make alliance raids a lot better to play.
I really wish they had an option between "some effects" and "all effects" like, I don't want to be blinded yes, but I also want to see SOME cool stuff like Ninjas doing mudras or Dragoons exploding enemies with their jumps.
A big factor in the shift in quality between ARR and post ARR patches (and expansions) is that ARR was developed in tandem with the development team ALSO still supporting and updating and patching 1.0 - once 1.0 was taken down and ARR was out, then all the development could go towards the patches, and not having to split focus.
this! You really can feel that for example the writers could finally focus on writing good characters with interesting personality in 2.1 and onwards. most people thought post-ARR was boring, but I enjoyed the stuff back in stormblood, so way before they trimmed it down. The first few lines with Minfilia already made me go "huh, weird. The writing is different, am I still playing the same game?"
Agreed. This wasn't an easy feat for the devs to pull but they executed nicely.
it’s funny how people have the need to explain things like that “ you know this was between the bad and good version of the game” who gives a fuck
@@s.t.5993 it's funny this game has a history people care about and look fondly over, rather tha habitually discarding everything every cycle.
Not used to having content and context to discuss buddy?
@@hentaidude666 ff14 , the only game that players need to provide an explanation on why the first 30 levels + MSQ are so bad , before people get bored to death
Mike: "I fear no man, but that... thing *looks at Moggle Mog* ...it scares me."
When Good King was first released I suffered many wipes to newbies laughing at the music and the insanity that is fuzzy moogle in Job gear running around.
The much larger problem is absolutely people that continue to "warn" other players about what a drag things are, when what they remember is (a lot of the time) being bored at level 50 waiting for a few months between patches and story updates, and not at all what a brand new player experiences playing it today.
True but at the same time I (new player) was like "wtf dude, I'm lvl 62 by now... why so many lvl 50 quests giving me obsolete piece of gear after obsolete piece of gear, I just wanna try the astrologist class" and now, the lvl 60 astrologist quest is unreacheable to me because I'm "not there yet" in the story apparently since all transitions leading to the area where the quest is located are blocked off -.-
As usual a totally fair and decent intention to prepare someone for some bumpy road, through no specific ill will, gets megaphoned to INCOMING CALAMITY by virtue of the endless hordes saying it. I didn't have to wait months for patches by the time I hit that section (although I still did it pre-pruning) and it was annoying to get through. Not super annoying, just annoying. So I wouldn't say it's tied to old memories. Just excess voices.
@@gustru2078 If you've played any other MMO ever then you should be able to realize pretty quickly that this was staggered content for those who played it while current and all of that was meant for those players, not necessarily for you now. WoW has a ton of this as well.
I'm a brand new player and felt the post arr until 1.4 was a huge drag, too much traveling around just talking to people, doing nothing really interesting msq wise
@@gustru2078 This is why I've been spreading my time across multiple jobs. Share out the XP and just see how it all goes. It has been great just taking my time, I started beginning of August and just hit Stormblood. Have SAM, DRG, and DNC at almost 62 each.
People always complain that the post-expansion MSQ content doesn't really give a lot of xp, forgetting that there's a *reason* for that. Originally it was level cap content that gave *no* experience. It was doled out a dozen or so quests at a time as post-expansion patches as story to wrap up the expansion's big storylines and lead into the next expansion.
Basically, it's not *meant* to give xp. It's meant to progress the story.
People are just ruining their experience by trying to min max the fun out of the game and to reach the maximum level as fast as possible. FFXIV isn't like any other mmo out there, it has alot of fun content to experience while leveling. Geting fast to endgame isn't an acomplishment, it's quite the opposite. You should just forget about the experience bar or that number that stands for your level and just take your time to experience everything the game has to offer.
@@mihaiflorentin88 after just going through the MSQ, the issue is you defeat the big bad and get a fancy cinematic. On to the next expansion!!!! Nope. Not only do you have to get through the between patches, you get a very noticeable loss of xp for doing it. That’s what makes it bad. If you love the story, it’s bearable, but for me heavensward and ARR were the best and it went downhill from there. I pushed through to 80, but just lost interest. Cancelled and uninstalled.
@@keithb6344 it doesn't get bad, it... Continues the story. It shows you what happens when the enemy is defeated. The thing wow doesn't do.
honestly the amount of XP it did give me almost made that part feel worse when I was almost level 53 before entering the expansion. And that's while I was avoiding gaining experience on my main job at all and using roulettes etc to level other classes instead.
@@UCvow2TUIH0d2Ax2vik9ILzg I mean the writing quality definitely shifted over the course of the game, but that is pretty normal.
To simplify:
Extreme - trials
Savage - Raids
Ultimate - Gauntlet of savage raids but way harder
Unreal - Old ARR fights at max level
Difficulty: from easiest to hardest
Extremes overgeared > unreal > extremes minilvl > savage > Ultimate
> pf anything
You missing the highest difficulty of all, Cape Westwind.
@@TheAssirra Sadly there is a limit so you cant put enough "
The game reached peak "anime" at the ARR finale with the power of friendship defeating Lahabrea.
While the action will become more choreographed, well produced and flashy going forward it will never reach that level of cheese again.
This. There are a few scenes that can be seen as "anime" scattered throughout, but none that come to mind as even getting CLOSE to that thing.
@@textbookidiocy3896 I can think of one in ShB lol
@@Fractured676 If you are thinking of the one from the trial, then i guess; sort of... but not to the same extent.
@@textbookidiocy3896 Ya thats hte one lol. It was awesome in the moment. But every time I see that scene watching someone play, I feel a lil cringe heh.
That’s the lowest point in the story IMO. And I like games like tales of sand atelier series that tells a lot about how badly that was done, I have nothing against cliché thing. But man, was that randomly and badly done. That’s why maybe I enjoyed the post msq part that much, after that cringe moment. Real story advancement felt so good.
No one warned you about the moogles for the same reason everybody warned you about camp westwind
people look at moogles like 'oh so cute, how can this be threatening' when in real life some of the cutest animals will fuckin eviscerate your ass.
Bloody drop bears...
Never understood why people complain about post arr content. That's when I personally fell in love with the game. For new players, you'll enjoy the game much more if you aren't trying to rush through. Not that type of game
There's definitely filler, but I feel like post-ARR doesn't get enough credit for how many elements of the game drastically improve at that point. The writing introduces a lot more moral ambiguities, there's a lot of new creativity in dungeons and trials, and cutscene direction is noticeably better with more voice acting.
I was playing back then so I did it incrementally as it was released and it wasn't too bad, but I could see how it could drag on for people doing it all at once especially before they trimmed it down. A lot of back and forth fetch quests that didn't add much to the story or experience. I think a lot of those are gone now though.
I did it back when post-ARR quests were 100 and part of it was the crushing realization that after ARR you don't go straight to HW so I couldn't use my newest spells (I was grossly overleveled at the time) and part of it is the fact that the setup for the last post-ARR quest is brutally slow. Like, the last quest is fucking great, one of my favourite parts of the game, but the 99 quests before that, ugh... talk to X, teleport, talk to Y, teleport, talk to Z, teleport, pick up shit...
I *did* like ARR, but post-ARR has some serious pacing issues.
It's because of HW. People are so anxious to reach HW that anything separating them from it is annoying them.
Its the 100 quests from 2.0 to 2.55, most of them are the classic fetch and courier quests that do feel like a filler.
In terms of story: it does have it highs and lows but it builds from expansion to expansion and it's great. if you want comical then look no further then the hildebrand quest line. Overall, I'm enjoying seeing all these new people try out FFXIV and getting their perspectives of it changed from being that "weeb" MMO to oh hey, this is actually a good/fun MMO.
MSQ: The worlds blowing up as people are dying left and right without out of place plot armor.
Side Quests: Hildebrand exists to clown around all day and he's going to make it everyone's problem and memes
The MSQ has its moments but yeah it gets a lot darker and serious with some touches of anime jumps sprinkled throughout but the side quests became the more goofy areas of the game lol
After quitting wow (once again) in classic & shadowlands, I decided to give the FFXIV trial a try in ~mid july. I'm not at all into anime and such, but after the quite sluggish 1-30ish level range I did realize one pretty huge surprise: I was completely and utterly fucking hooked. Whether or not someone is into anime but likes a good MMO experience, I'd definitely recommend giving the trial a shot. It will feel kind of slow for a good while, but taking the time and progressing in a comfortable pace with no money invested really helps with that.
Like any other game in general, FFXIV is not for everyone, but so far it might be one of the best MMOs to cater to MOST types of people, at least out of the games I've played. You can easily play at the most casual rate imaginable and not feel left out or punished, because the old content is still populated and encouraged to do (through daily roulettes, new players coming in and whatnot), there is the plain grindy content for people who want to do it (ie. eureka etc) and there's multiple difficulties of raids and trials to clear if you feel like wanting some more challenging content.
I think it's a good Weeb MMO, played around 100hours, tried a bit of things, the Palace of the dead was my favorite, but the universe is just not for me i guess. And i can't be bothered with the really long main questline that just doesn't interest me.
The Greg fight is just chaos and hilarious
@@cas6382 fun fact, Hildebrand was introduced in the 1.0 version near the end when the clock was ticking down and devs kinda had free reign to do whatever. A kind of levity that people clearly appreciated, so his shenanigans continued in ARR.
In a similar vein, King Moogle Mog was introduced in 1.0 as an alternative to the next planned Primal fight, Titan. With devastating earthquakes happening in real life, the devs felt it would be a bad time to add the king of landslides and instead improvised a light-hearted encounter to lift spirits.
I leveled through FF14 the same way. Every time I reached the "cap" for an expansion I would take the time to do the trials, raids, and alliance raids to see all of the story and content for that expansion. It was a really rewarding way to experience the game and there is a lot you can miss if you're just blitzing to level cap with a WoW mindset.
From what I understand, the boss was supposed to be Leviathan, the tidal wave wielding water boss, but the tragic Tsunami happened in Japan. They figured it would be in bad taste to put that kind of content into game right then, so they added King Mog instead. It was an attempt to bring some levity and joy to people's lives during a troublesome time.
It where leviathan and titan, not a good combination when ppl are suffering from a tsunami tho. I found very nice that they tried to enhance the mood of the people with king moogle
@@pedroserra6429 You're both half right.
The tsunami happened in 2011 and the patches of Leviathan and Titan being replaced by King Mooglemog XII was for 1.0. As you know, Titan was in the base ARR.
So you could argue that King Mooglemog XII came before Leviathan because it was in a more complete state than Leviathan was now that production on 1.0 had fully ceased (2.0 and 1.0 were in development at the same time) and they didn't want it to go to waste.
that was earlier. they had that happen when they were still building 2.0 in the background, while they updated the 1.x series. The improv-boss was mog's 1.0 version
The thancred cutscene was a bit more animated because patch 2.4 introduces the ninja as a playable job. And thancred was displayed as ninja there.
technically thancred was supposed to be the Lominsan rogue class, and yugiri the ninja job. Neither of them used ninja job skills in this cutscene though
@@GunNlazor true. but teasers don't accurately display all job skills, i dont think. like stormblood and shadowbringer trailers
@@williamw7685 aliase teased the RDM but she didn't have any of the skills, cuz they weren't in the game yet
If Preach thinks King Mog is creepy I can't wait to see what he thinks of a certain level 60 dungeon final boss.
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@@unfinest Or a certain severed head... though that's a side dungeon.
Still remember my first time there the day it released... WTFF IS THIS!?? And yes two Fs.
Shadowbringers and I’ll just be vague and say the second boss in the first dungeon of that expansion.
@@yellowbeard1 Not gonna lie, the cutscene where that boss was introduced before the dungeon, was one of the most unsettling things I've seen...like actual nightmare fuel
Crystal Tower alliance raids… “you’re only there once”.
Oh you, sweet summer child. Haha.
You only do them once... pr day.
@@6038am I guess you werent here for the Shadowbringers Relic grind pre nerf eh?
@@Aethare No i was not, so i have no clue what you mean,. I don't know what that was like, and it will be the same for Mike.
@@6038am This is true, basically the devs like to pull old content into new. For example, Shadowbringers endgame weapons aka Relics, require older Raids etc. So moving forward you both will see it, it keeps the game alive. Welcome to ff14.
@@Aethare I got Dark Knight full lvl 80 relic weapon, so i knowthe grind and the CT bit was very fast.
the cutscenes throw a mix of good nature wackiness, soul crushing sadness, murky intrigue, reved up anime-esque action and even quiet retrospection. it's a big grab bag of stuff but it never feels too out of place for a final fantasy game. it's WILLING to try new things sometimes its a little off, sometimes it's spot on; but i've never been so jarred as to not like it straight out. it mixes and changes with the mood it's trying to tell in the story at that moment.
Whenever a former WOW player says “trans mog”. My mind goes to moogles.
And coming over to FFXIV, every time I see "mogstation" I think "oh that's the cash shop whre you buy the mogs". It's, uh... not. It's the account management portal. I'm still trying to wrap my head around this.
why? transmogrification is an actual word in the English dictionary
If I could play a moogle I would.
@@des-trina I have a moogle tattoo XD
@@Ybo111 haha because they shorten the word and it’s not one I’ve heard in association with FFXIV. In FFXIV we have the glamour system. Mog = moogle.
I was told I'd hate the AAR -> HW too, and while some of it does feel largely like busy work, overall I liked it and was pleasantly surprised at how it moved the plot forward. I really just wanted to get Ishgard open so I could give Dark Knight a try, but ended up enjoying the journey. Also, now I get the the surrounding geography of Ishgard and Stormwind are very different, the scale of Ishgard and how huge it feels is how I really wish Stormwind felt in WoW. The HW zones start to feel really grand compared to the really small ARR zones.
I think it's overblown by some people how tedious post ARR stuff is. Also most of the people that are actually say that played it before they cut some content out.
@@QuintemTA mostly that, yeah. Even at the time I played through that myself it really only started to tire me out towards the end of it, when it was clearly heading for Ishgard but wait, first...
And besides trimming quite some fat from MSQ, being able to just fly in ARR zones after 5.0 reduces a ton of the tedium of traveling back and forth.
@@DreamingVoid The amount of XP is pretty insane if you are trying to do everything like doing all your daily roulettes, stopping for FATEs and only have 1-2 job. Most people are not going to be levelling all jobs and they will always be overlevelled, this will also trivialise much of the non synced MSQ content. I've chosen to level every job and I am still out levelling the current zone I am questing in.
So, the zones in Heavensward and Stormblood were designed with new travel features in mind.
Flying was introduced into the game in Heavensward, so the zones were designed with that in mind. Huge open areas that allowed you to see a lot from up high.
In Stormblood they introduced the ability to swim underwater, so they had areas in each zone with deep water that you could dive into (and in the case of one zone it was mostly covered in deep water).
@@roetheboat1 I mean the bigger zones in HW were also a result of dropping support for some older windows systems (whereas PS3 would still be supported until Stormblood but fell further and further behind in performance). Zones of that scale were literally impossible in ARR.
So fun fact on the comment about "which boss took the longest to be downed:" no game comes close to Final Fantasy XI. Just look into the infamy of Absolute Virtue (a boss that is also in FFXIV now) and how it went /legitimately/ undefeated for over two years. Some linkshells beat it through exploits. I was in one of those groups called SeaShell on Titan and we "killed" AV but by exploiting the fuck out of it. AV's mechanics weren't understood at all for so goddam long and it's first legitimate death wasn't until a completely different boss that was fought, without dying btw, for EIGHTEEN HOURS and started to make players sick so SE nerfed all the HNMs to never be longer than a two hour fight.
Older MMOs are on another level of hardcore.
Depending on how wacky it gets, huh?
Someone hasn’t even heard of the Hildibrand quest line yet
To be fair, he is not talking about that kind of Wacky, that's just japanese humour, hit or miss. Would love to see how he would deal with the inspector though.
This is why I love Preach. Nailed it about the comparison thing. I've played both FF14 and WoW for years and they are simply too different to make easy direct comparisons (unless you're fine making very lazy ones). They are just different games that share the same genre.
They can be compared, just not really as a whole rather than comparing small aspects of each game versus the other.
MMORPG memo : “the game is all about the endgame!”
Yoshi-P shred the memo and throw it out the window “I will change that concept!”
Both FFXIV and GW2 have done a hell of a job with this... they make you want to go do old content for fun.
@@dirusj4006 The Old Republic, too. SWTOR's class stories (level 1-50) are *so good* that some, like the Imperial Agent or Sith Warrior, you want to play through again to see what happens if you're Light Side/Dark Side, or just make different decisions at key points along the way. Because the class stories *do* have different endings (and the Imperial Agent has like 8 different endings) you really can play through the story of a class you love multiple times just to see how everything turns out.
Well, for players who enjoy the hard content it's still all about the "endgame." But one of the great things about FF14 is that it has "endgame" content every 10 levels from level 50 that is still fun to play because of level sync.
It has never ever made sense to me why WoW thought it was okay to just yeet their old content into "worse than irrelevant" status every patch.
@@Maria_Erias I just finished the sith warrior class story focusing on light side. It was amazing and I definitely want to play through it again sometime in the future
@@NabsterHax XIV's "permanent timewalking mode" is what makes every aspect of the game relevant regardless of current expansion, and it's something I REALLY liked when I started playing. Always got annoyed WoW's entire dungeon/raid scene focus solely on the current patch. Even while leveling through DF you're locked to only what's of your approximate level.
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I've been playing FF14 since Stormblood and WoW since Cata and i honestly prefer FF14 PvE. Sure the raids aren't as grand but I like that it's 8 people because it makes it easier to organize and they can give each player more responsibility. Plus I prefer how the AOEs and abilities are telegraphed it feels much more clear than in WoW. Only thing that I dislike is the tab targeting which is utter garbage in FF and very crisp in WoW.
Change your targetting to CONE in the (I think) Character Customisations. It makes it a LOT easier since it'll pick targets in front of you rather than just whatever is closest. Makes a big difference.
Not having to download addo-ns and weak auras and UI interfaces is also very nice.....
You don't need a core roster and backup raiders and annoying attunement quests and etc or massive gearing to get into the raid.....
It is definitely more fun and less of a "job". It not being gated by a bunch of things other than the main story and occasional item level requirements that are pretty easy to hit. WoW has ever become more of a slot machine while FF14 has ever become more of a RPG.
The other thing I absolutely loathe in FFXIV is that the right mouse button targets in addition to moving the camera. I'm constantly finding myself unable to move the camera because it decides that it's going to target some random player instead. I really wish they had an option to disable right-click targeting.
raids aren't as grand? I feel ff's fights are more grand in every way mostly. I'd say Kil Jaeden in Legion is the fight that looks like a FF raid.
And yeah tab targeting in FF is ultra garbage, the galmour system is also very bad and limited. WoW does both better.
To take a quote Jesse Cox
"Combat in WoW is like a street brawl whereas combat in FF14 is more like a dance."
I think why people say ARR isn't good or its slow is because how good the game does get. I just finished ShadowBringers last night and comparing the three expansions to ARR I can see how people would say its bad. The expansions are just amazing and that's not to say ARR is bad but the more you get into the game the more you can see how slow arr was compared to Shadowbringers.
It's sort of like comparing A New Hope to The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.
@@Boyzby except I prefer a new hope to empire strikes back and return of the Jedi is objectively the lesser of the trilogy although all 3 are cracking films.
@@tarkett8529 that's an opinion lol. I don't think it's quite that objective
Being able to play old expansion content and actually be challenged and have fun is a big game changer. I dont have to read about how back in X expansion a certain fight was really cool. I can actually play it, even if its not 1:1 exactly how it was back then.
There are some like that but people coming in now wouldn't be able to really notice.
Such as 'The Steps of Faith' right before Heavensward starts. It used to be difficult, needing people to co-ordinate to use the dragon-killers at the top of the towers and the cannon's on the ground. But then they nerfed it a few weeks later as is was (quite literally) the blockade into Heavensward.
Overall it is great being able to return to previous content.
@@XMAXEL ARR steps of faith extreme
@@MrBunchButtons I was about to reply this :D
Ah, so that’s why a good mentor once told me it deserves to be played on minimum iLvl when he did it again in New Game +.
I certainly understand his mindset now.
@@XMAXEL wait wait wait wait1!! THERE ARE DRAGON KILLERS ON TOP OF TOWERS?!! FURTHERMORE YOU CAN GO UP THE TOWERS?
I think a lot of the bad vibes around ARR come from people having played it before they smooshed down the MSQ. I tried ffvix for the first time a couple years ago, sometime during stormblood. Quit pretty early because it felt like everything was taking forever. When I tried again it felt like I flew through ARR. It has its slow points, but there was enough good story to keep me hooked.
Even playing it in vanilla I enjoyed ARR. Yes, it wasn't the awesomeness we've had with HW, SB and ShB, but for a vanilla experience it was fine. There were parts that dragged, but that happened in vanilla wow, too.
Also, no flight in ARR zones ever, instead of getting that massive convenience given to you for free after the pre patch base game. SO much chiller.
A more major issue of the "ARR is bad skip it" crowd is, fundamentally, that ARR and the patch content *is* the worst stuff in the game. By an astronomical mile it is the worst stuff in the game. Writing, acting, animations, story. Every single thing that comes from Heavensward onward blows it out of the water so cataclysmically effortlessly that it can be almost embarassing.
This leads to people going "Oh god they won't even get to where it gets really good" and overcompensating by trying to manage expectations. But, the internet being what it is discourse doesn't have nuance so it quickly turns from "ARR is rough but has a good core and promise and sets up the rest of the game perfectly" to "ARR is garbage and you shouldn't play it".
ARR is fine. It really is. It's fine.
But when what comes after is mindblowingly spectacular, "fine" feels like garbage.
That isn't to say ARR and the patch content doesn't have problems. Especially before the culling, there was a *lot* of busy work and some parts of the story were incredibly slow. Some of this is because they were still learning their engine, getting used to using the quests to tell a story, and getting comfortable in the world and characters. There were portions of 2.x that were literally "run from one end of a map to the other repeatedly to have one line of dialogue with an NPC". And, having gone through it when it wasn't culled, I did experience a lot of fatigue going through it because it can feel like a real slog. Part of that, I think, is they didn't really consider what it might feel like playing after the fact, and I suspect playing through it was it was released originally was probably a lot less of a slog. Sure, there's like fifty quests per patch, but when you can spread that over a six month period between the patches and fill it in with the side content they released at the same time it's far more managable.
But mainlining 200 quests in one go is an entirely different experience.
@@tashikat9040 given the circumstances of ARR's development, its anything but embarrassing. I also can't see how you don't detract from later expansions, at least Heavensward, by skipping the story that underpins it. ARR is the opening act of the Zodiarc story. Its slower because it needs time to world build and develop characters. I think fundamentally if you enjoy good story telling, ARR won't bother you. If all you're after is action and spectacle, it will feel like a drag.
@@jessesutton7985 I entirely agree with you. But I understand why people might feel differently.
Ninja was just introduced during that scene with Thancred. That's why it's like that :)
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the same question
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Loving this series
Also the change in voice actors can be partly attributed to the Screen actors guild strike that occured around that time.
The Film Actor's Guild from Team America comes to mind.
- One of the voice actors was murdered :/
- It doesn't get "more anime like", so don't worry about it. Maybe in the trailers, but not in-game.
- If you've liked the story and characters, you are going to FREAKING LOVE Heavensward.
- You will also enjoy Stormblood, maybe a little bit less than HW, but more than ARR.
- If my assumptions from watching your content are correct, YOU are going to enjoy Shadowbringers, but probably not as much as Heavensward.
I'll be looking forward to your next videos and see if you agree with this!
Are you referring to count Fortemps english VA? I believe Stephen Critchlow passed away from cancer, not murder. Still an awful tragedy though, screw cancer.
@@sauceinmyface9302 Think they are referring to Yugiri's old english VA, she was murdered.
@@sauceinmyface9302 the original voice actress for Yugiri was murdered.
He said in an earlier video he loves dark themes in RPG stories, so he's going to love Shadowbringers the most IMO. Even Stormblood has a lot of dark going on with it because it spends so much time focusing on the effects the Empire's war has had on the citizens of nations it invaded. It's not just BFA focusing on big, spectacle battles, and villains being moustache twirling fantasy hitler. It spends way more time looking at the effects those battles leave on the citizens, and how people become the villains in the first place, why they do what they do.
One was murdered, but not this one from Yugiri. It will be the one that takes over in Heavensward.
Good King Moggle Mog
Good King Mog
Lord of all the land (Kupo!)
Good King Mog!
Rules with iron hand!
Good King Moggle Mog,
Good King Mog!
You mentioned "it's story-driven content, it's a huge spectacle." That's something that becomes more of a pattern as you go on. The normal difficulty trials and raids are there to service the story and act as a preview of what the extreme/savage version will be. You got a good plot and it's like an advertisement for the high-end content, with simplified versions of mechanics that are run-breaking at a higher difficulty.
Which is literally what LFR is and people bash that all day long. Some double standards going on here.
@@joostleisder1956 I don't think it works as a direct comparison. Especially since trials and normal raids are designed around 8 people and tend to be fairly challenging when they are current content. The difference in difficulty is far less often about just purely more damage, some fights are noticeably different between versions, up to and including whole new phases.
@@Nirual86 Both are meant to be cleared by a pug in a timely manner, as is LFR. Both have some fights where the boss isn't a complete pushover, as has LFR.
Amount of players isn't really relevant. Alliance raids and trials / normal raids are no different from each other either. It all boils down to pug quality content, which is LFR content.
As for changing the fight: this happens in WoW as well. Some fights get more mechanics on higher difficulty, and some of them get changed entirely.
@@joostleisder1956 The difference is the purpose they serve in the story. The normal mode trials and raids are there primarily as a vehicle for story. They are there as setpieces during the leveling experience, giving you a nice climax for a storyline or a zone quest, and a launching off point for the next part of the story. And if you do them as they're relevant, they can still be reasonably challenging and require some knowledge of the game mechanics, telegraphs, and your own jobs abilities. And it would be incredibly rude of them to lock you from progressing in the story behind high difficulty.
The normal mode raids, like say Alex and Omega, are there for similar reasons and to introduce the concept of the fights and mechanics. They're fun and furious fights that can be usually reasonably easily pugged and are designed to allow most people to pass through them and see the story the raid tells.
The major and important distinction is : they are there for story. To allow people who are only okay at the game to experience story. To not lock progression of the *main point of FF* behind high difficulty.
That's not why LFR is there. To say "Normal mode is just like LFR why do people hate LFR if they like normal mode raids and trials" is to fundamentally misunderstand, either willfully or through ignorance, the purpose of the content and its place inside of the progression of the game.
@@tashikat9040 I am entirely in agreement with you up to the point that you mention LFR isn't for that. You also conveniently left out what LFR is, according to you, there for.
I don't work for Blizzard, but from my perspective LFR does exist for the exact same reason: to give those who do not wish to engage in coordinated raiding a chance to see the raiding content and the story tied to it. WoW is incredibly story driven as well and to imply it is not is an insult to the franchise. The raids, especially these days, are a major part of that story, and while you can just watch the cutscenes on youtube, you could do the same in FF14 with the exception that they are mandatory (which is not a positive).
Coils, coils, coilssssss
I'd love if they made coils mandatory like Crystal tower, but its probably too hard in points to ask every single player to have to do it to progress.
@@JackgarPrime Like you said it'd be too hard, it has great lore tied to it and Alisae but it's some of the hardest content in the game synced, couldn't imagine doing it on duty finder with the same ppl that can't dodge Titan's bombs
Beating Twintania using duty finder was time consuming enough, i can't even imagine how that experience would be with bahamut 😓
@@alexgmello Nael would shut most people down hard
I suspect coils may become one of Preach's most memorable progress raids he's done in quite some time.
I'd recommend you to into the settings and turn off spell effects for players not in your party when doing alliance raids, it helps a lot with being visually overwhelmed lol
I think the over the top action will settle down. Seems like that scene was them flexing a bit :P Still..better than WoW's ingame cutscenes from this year!
True!! Lol
I've loved watching you stream FFXIV, been following you for years as a fellow longtime WoW player and I made the switch to FF in the spring and having a great time following your journey with it and that you're enjoying it so much.
The main difference I can see between the WoW and FF raiding scene came to me when I thought about how the WoW players reacted to people beating LFR Ragnaros for the anniversary event. People were being called noobs because "it's hurr durr Ragnaros, it's super easy, people are wiping they suck, lol, look at these noobs celebrating an LFR Rag kill."
In contrast, all these streamers trying out FF are celebrating the raids that FF vets can just roll over, yet...they're congratulated, encouraged to keep going.
It makes me think that we WoW players were and still are so bitter because we truly hated WoW but had this weird Stockholm syndrome relationship with it and it made us all assholes. We hated playing it, we hated the systems, the story, but it was OUR game, it was THE game. Our eyes are being opened to just how wrong we were on a lot of things.
No matter how anime FF14 gets, its never going to be as bad as ancient aliens in WOW.
Seriously, it makes no sense to call FFXIV cutscenes “anime” after playing retail WoW. WoW cutscenes have characters fighting DBZ battles. Even that shit leaked into Starcraft 2.
Yessss mate, been waiting for this! I’m still in heavensward myself :). Mates are all in Azeroth so no one to do coordinated extreme content.
Im guessing you are on a free-trial? If not there are a ton of FC's to join that run content with other FC's (if they are small). Also the duty finder has a search option that you can set up that always searches for anyone running content you are interested in and then alerts you in game if someone else wants to run the content you do.
@@xychogaming nah have totally fallen for it. Bought the complete edition and Pre ordered endwalker :) I joined the first fc to invite me (some guys who were doing a fate I was going) but they are tiny. I could find a bigger one but figured I’m better off just finishing msq and worrying about it later. What do you think?
I want to do progress raiding but whose going to want to do that with me in arr when I’ve not finished the game
@@AAKhanivore Have you tried party finder (not dutyfinder)? There are a ton of people new to the game right now, so you might very well be able to fill a group for the content you want to do :)
Just make sure to mention in the description that you want to do it synced.
There are also raiding discords, and while they are MOSTLY for endgame and Ultimate fights, lately I've seen statics recruit for old content more commonly.
@@sleepysera oh cool!! I will check this out :) thanks!
Streamers grow their hair back when playing ff14, confirmed
"I don't like it" is perhaps the best response to moogle mog
i think a lot of the criticisms like that, I shared with Preach when I first started playing too ... flying cars, naruto cutscenes, and cutesy characters .. but once you realise how they are explained in the game via the story and that it is canon not just for some token reason, it adds more aspects of the game to actually love. its actually refreshing
I love when Wow gamers are realising they were "morons" as Preach said, thinking about FF what they were thinking (weebs, too easy boooring, no challenge, games for pussies, thrash graphics, that FFplayers are simple Savages, as Gaius would say, and so on and so on) before even trying it.
Praise the Lord!
I loved your raw reaction to King Moogles Mog 😂
I'm thrilled you decided to take the longer road. It's a more fulfilling journey. You might not make it to the endgame in time for Endwalker, but that might be a good thing for you and your channel.
If you wanna see the longest boss fight, Final Fantasy 11 Absolute Virtue pre-nerf.... that was dire.
Over 2 years
Damn, I should really try this game out!
The greenscreen is not used to dealing with hair
Preach my man, hair is looking good!! :D hope you're enjoying ffxiv, it's such a fun game
FFXIV does have some anime moments, but coming from someone who doesn’t like anime very much (just not my thing), it is never overwhelming and never detracts from the overall experience. The story is amazing
Longtime ff player here never played wow, glad you’re enjoying the game! It’s really does get better.
Honestly if anyone *REALLY* wants to compare difficulty between the 2 games, most ex-WoW players (myself included) can agree the difficulty goes like this - from easiest to hardest:
1) FFXIV Normal
2) WoW LFR
3) FFXIV (Hard)
4) WoW Normal
5) FFXIV easier Extreme fights (like Bismarck, Ravana, Shiva etc.)
6) WoW early Heroic bosses = FFXIV standard Extreme fights (Ifrit, Leviathan, Garuda etc.)
7) WoW standard to final Heroic bosses
8) FFXIV hardest Extreme fights (Thordan, Shinryu etc.) = WoW early Mythic bosses
9) WoW standard Mythic bosses = FFXIV standard Savage bosses
10) FFXIV hardest Savage bosses (O12S, E8S etc.) = WoW hardest Mythic bosses (Archimonde, Kiljaeden etc.)
11) WoW Mythic Uunat = FFXIV A3S pre-nerf
Not putting Ultimates on here because they’re a different animal entirely - they are more of a test on focus and endurance rather than difficulty.
The combat and how they go about with the bosses is something I immediately felt but couldn't put into words. It wasn't until I started doing savage raids with a static and playing some turn based RPG with the same friends that I realized that "Omg, FF14 feels more like a turned based RPG as opposed to an FPS or action game!". Everything you do and how you fight the bosses feels like a real time turned based game.
Despite the combat being as fast as it is, every point of a battle with a boss feels very memorable cause it goes hand in hand with your rotation and to optimize your rotation, burst windows and CD's, you start memorizing parts of the fights that allows it or fits it best, which makes the boss battles feel way more slower than they actually are, like a turn based game where each action matters.
Realizing that made me realize why I like FF14 so much in its harder content, as fun as action games are, due to their nature the gameplay are oftentime quick with very little memorable parts, whilst playing turned based games every step feels weighted and important, making fights take longer, giving you time to memorize the enemies to best win a fight, and ontop of that when you do it feels very satisfying.
Yeah, that's what really makes me love FF14 so much as well. It really captured the feel of a turn-based RPG while still having some action elements. Everything you do feels important. Movement and actions are planned to best take advantage of every opportunity you have. People have some fights planned down to the GCD. I think that's how some players actually managed an all-tank UCoB clear.
Level 80 PLD who runs a static here: and let me just tell you that you've barely even _scratched the surface_ of "Extreme" (or rather: 'higher difficulty' content) in this MMO. Many new players will run the ARR Extreme Trials and think to themselves, "this is as difficult as it gets in FFXIV?" -- and the answer is a HARD no. In fact, even if you run the fights on minimum item level/echo off, you've still only scratched the cusp of the difficulty ceiling in this MMO. I think back then they were still sort of figuring the whole "difficulty/challenge balance" thing out.
The _real challenge_ starts with, in my opinion, Stormblood raids/trials and beyond. Yes, even Heavensward Extremes somewhat pale in comparison to SB or higher... and yes, I _am_ talking about Extreme or Savage difficulty, not Ultimate or anything crazy like that. This is majorly due to a huge difference in design philosophy from the developers: I think they only realized after Heavensward that they were going to settle with Extreme Trials and Savage Raids as the "high end" content, and then Ultimate as the "hardcore." They also likely learned a lot through player feedback.
Anyway, just figured I'd let you know that you've barely breached the cusp of what FFXIV endgame fights/content/raids/trials are like. You're in for a wild ride.
Edit: I noticed you also commented about the 24-man raids just being more of a "story driven" thing. This actually isn't the case at all... once again... when you get to Stormblood and beyond. The 24-man Ivalice raids you'll unlock in Stormblood, and the NieR alliance raids in ShB, are actually pretty challenging and extremely fun. Don't get me wrong, they're still a "spectacle" and quite jaw dropping, but you'll also be having a LOT more fun.
Im so proud of you Preach! I'm happy you are having fun in my favorite MMO and looking at it with an open mind.
Super glad you're enjoying FFXIV! I played WoW from launch to about a month into BFA and something just "clicked" and I realized that the Warcraft franchise was no longer what I fell in love with. FFXIV stole me completely with its super narrative focused (AND REALLY GOOD) story, the community is fantastic, and it still has a metric boat load of genuinely difficult content. I used to have a UA-cam channel (think it has like 1700 subs or something LOL) where I reviewed games and I went back recently to watch my initial video review of FFXIV back in, like, 2014 or something and even then I said "Damn! If I wasn't playing WoW as my main game ('cuz WoW doesn't respect your time and you have log in every day on every character to do your chores... ugh, garbage) then I'd be playing this game!" I regret not starting it sooner. My buddy got into it during launch and it'd have been great to experience every bit of growth and change along the way.
wow! just refreshed youtube and saw this recommended!
If he's having a blast with 2.x content, HW is going to blow his brain.
Hairs looking great Mike!
My first thought as well
What the heck is going on with this? Does ff14 actually restore hair growth??
@@Chito_17 yes
The cat ears come next
@@Chito_17 yes many malding ex wow players have their hair growing back after quitting
The funny thing is, the story actually becomes way more grounded after ARR. Whilst FF14 has its moments to fan service, Comparatively WoW becomes the way more of an ludicrous over the top anime-style story than FF14
King Moggle Mog XII-may his fur always be fluffy-takes offense to your claims of him being creepy!
Most of the people who warned about the ARR patch content probably went through those before they removed a ton of the filler from it. They cut out a LOT of the garbage from the patch MSQ which left mostly just the amazing bits.
IMO, it's more about the amount of quests, with dialogue heavy cutscenes, you need to go through before finally moving on to HW. Future post-expansion content drops added less quests overall, which means it's easier, or at least less lenghty, to go to the new content. I mean, only post-ARR has like, what, 100 MSQ? Other expansions don't get to 50, so I can see veterans dreading what new players may think when they get to post-ARR MSQ.
its still a slog either way
Also if you watch stream those people literally admitted last time that the only reason they "hate ARR is:
1. They wanted to hurry to Heavensward so they hated it purely because it gatekept the next expansion.
2. They already played the expansions and are biased as fuck because in their words "the expansions are so much better so looking back ARR sucks in comparison".
All of these reasons are absolutely ridiculous to base advice to a new player on. New players haven't done the expansions so ARR WONT be shit to them. STOP advicing new players to skip ARR. Absolutely moronic to tell them to skip because of their own biased experience. I actually really dislike that.
Imagine going in to a new players stream and telling them to skip because "Heavensward is so much better". Like no, stop.
@@TheSilverwing999 agreed. try to say skip ARR or patch that bad way to introduce game to new player i pretty much enjoy my time on post arr
I don't feel like the commentary about the way raids play (with regards to movement) was accurate for any class other than Black Mage. That is the only class where you actually have to plan movement and get affected by it, the other casters are quite mobile and don't have to worry about it at much at all compared to BLM. The 3 ranged physical hardly have any casted abilities and feel more like a BM Hunter from WoW (i.e you can DPS and run around all day). Melee is melee, same thing as WoW with trying to maintain uptime while doing mechanics.
Your videos convinced me to try FF for myself. It is a fantastic game.
Still a sprout IMO as ive just hit 55 on DRG but ive done Thornmarch Extreme and it was super fun great fight and up there in memorable fights with some WoW one's cant wait to get to the "endgame" but there is so much to do in the game.
Dunno if you see this, but Mike, now that you've seen how the raids are with full spell efects. You should de activate spell efects from other players and keep only the essential and your own.
You will, this way, enjoy and appreciate better the following fights without all that mess of particles around obscuring the boss' models.
Cheers, ty for your hard work. Greetings from Cyprus! :)
5:40 why be a bad version of another game when you can be a good version of your own? :D
OMG!! just imagine if he was at the end off HW and doing: 'The Minstrel's Ballad: Thordan's Reign' no echo, min ilvl on stage in London this weekend!!! 😱😱😱
The fucking roof would fly fucking off!!! 🙌🙌🙌🎉🎉🎉
Yeah he's probably blow it off with all the mechanical absurdity.
@@katomamundara8106 Hahahaha!! 🤣
That amazing OST just blasting through the stage.
@@katomamundara8106 it's just 4-6 mechanics at a time, easy :P
@@TheAssirra Yep, easy stuff. Nothing like....WoL Ex.
One of the reasons Veteran players disliked the Post-ARR content is that there were months between story bits, so it just felt very slow and a slog with most quests basically being Fetch Quests to pad out for time. The devs did cut it down and streamline it a lot recently. With the streamlining and being able to do it all at once, it is far more enjoyable.
Shadowbringers has the best storyline written into any final fantasy game, it's just that good. The fact that you're engaged and paying attention to arr stuff only makes shadowbringers that much better. The way story threads are wrapped and woven is absolutely brilliant
Btw alliance raids aren't hard YET. Crystal Tower was always pretty piss easy. Just wait until you get through the next two expansions for their capstone alliance raids to see some real fun in Dun Scaith and Orbonne Monastery. Those alliance raids did not fuck around.
Ugh, Dun Scaith. ;-;
Combat is old school mmo. It's gcd, and deliberate. And that's a nice change of pace.
its funny that you say you hate dance fights in the context of WoW because oddly enough one of the most hated fights in FF is Coils Turn 7 and is basically a WoW fight
it doesnt work because those style of fights just dont work in the context of FF
alliance raids get harder if they are more recent like recent alliance if you dont have gear you are 1 -2 shot for any mistakes.
You can hide other players effects btw, including party members effects.
I think the real drag are the quests between Ifrit and Titan.
All the Patches together are long but you are constantly bombarded with Trials and dungeons + the story weaves to the next expansion so i think the patches are ok.
If you are getting overwhelmed by the laser light show of spell effects in raids, there are options in the game settings to reduce or turn off spell effects for other players.
the ARR Savage/Extremes are pretty much entry level compared to Stormblood/Shadowbringer Savage/Extreme raids tbh.
Close preach but the difficulty goes
Normal > extreme > Savage > ultimate
I know he's saying positive things but judging "raiding" by ARR Extremes instead of ShB Savages doesn't feel right.
Which is why it will be even better when he gets to those.
The post ARR story was the slog. The features were fun. You’ll love HW. Storm Blood had pacing issues with the story. But SB trials were the best IMO. HW extremes were fun as well. Great farm content.
Remove any scenes with lyse in it in SB and the quality of stormblood rises 500%
@@dafire9634 I didn't mind Lyse or Stormblood. Since I joined in 4.2 of Stormblood. lol
Thank blasted god I did that or I would have to deal with people leaving me in the dust in CM & Praetorium.
For someone who just finished patch 2.1 content/msq and hasn’t stepped into coils, what is the raiding progression path?
I’m so used to wow’s that extreme, savage and ultimate confuse me, and the acronyms like e5s confuse me as well.
I was doing all these extremes through the story in duty finder and had a great time, but it still largely felt like we out geared encounters to the point certain fight checkpoints were blown by so fast they were largely uneventful.
How do I go about finding a group for coils, just list in party finder? Most posts I see are maybe 1 listing for turn 5 on Zalera.
My thoughts were I’d level to 50, I’m currently 58, do all ARR content up til HS and then level all other jobs and DoH jobs to 50 before moving to HW content, rinse and repeat. Is this reasonable?
Any help/advice would be appreciated.
Hey there. I only play FF14 for about 4 months now but let me try to help you out: As far as I know Extreme is only for trails (1 boss battle) while Savage is for Raids. Coils is basically a savage raid (without telling you). If you really think that you and others are overgeared for certain extreme trails or savage raids... You always can create a open entry for the party finder and:
Activate minimum item level (means gear gets scaled down to lowest level possible)
Deactivate the echo (which normally gives you a small buff after every party wipe)
But be warned, extreme trails and raids with min item level are really hard. I did the first turn of coils with it and it took us nearly 2 hours to finally take down the last boss. Best place for finding willing players would be probably a free company (guild) or a cross-world-linkshell (for parties of players that are in the same datacenter but on different servers.) Or just create entry in the party finder and hope that people want to join you.
Hope that helped you a little :)
Damn Preach, you're starting to look real cute with that full head of hair you got!
My biggest takeaway? Mike enjoying the story of FFXIV. After years of knowing he doesn’t give 2 shits and a fart about WoW’s story, it makes me genuinely concerned for WoW…
Edit: stupid fat fingers and autocorrect 😑
Autocorrect is awful. Also, yeah, it's sad in all honesty, that the story of World of Warcraft degraded so much that no one cares anymore. Not even some of the Lore Nerds that LOVED World of Warcraft care anymore. By which meaning, Pyromancer.
if you haven't hid other player's spell effects yet you really should
Well, Istill have PTSD from extreme thornmarch...
The best part of the Trial fights is that each one has a unique boss theme, and for most of them from Heavensward onward have multiple themes for different phases of the fight. You may have noticed Titan has _4_ different themes he cycles through depending on the phase of the fight.
Don't recall that ever happening when I played WoW. Hell, I don't remember WoW's soundtrack _at all._
And the music often dictates the fight's literal rhythm too, when things pick up or change, the boss gets harder or hitty-er.
@@shikatsu Oh yes, Titan is a great example of this. The music gets more intense as the fight gets crazier.
I was pretty gutted by Merlwyb's VA change, I actually loved her original voice.
It might be because I've gotten some distance, but I feel like she tapped into some of the original actress's vibes in the recent patches.
As a long time player of FFXIV, seeing you getting immersed into this game after being a fan of your WoW content for so many years is really refreshing and in turn making me happy with a feels good vibe.
Honestly loving watching you go through the game. I didn't think I'd like it but I just finished shadowbringers last night and its been so fucking good. The fights are difficult even the story missions, the story has mysteries and it becomes full circle. Watching some other streamers earlier in the game I've seen hints that they drop on where the story will go but you never really think about it at the time. Its been so good. I hope you can start dropping some videos of your reaction/attempts at some of the trials/raids as they become cooler and cooler. Its crazy to see how peoples minds are changing going through the game IE Preach, Asmongold, etc
The one thing that bothers me, is that he refers to Extreme TRIALS as raids.... Those aren't raids. They are similar to the Normal raids, but raids are groupped in series.
For difficulties, Trials have Normal (only in ARR), Hard, Extreme, and more recently Unreal
Raids have Normal, Savage and Ultimate, all only for normal raids. Alliance Raids are 3 part storylines, no extra difficulties, and are effectively very long dungeons with 3 full parties.
A lot of people view Trials as part of raids for difficult group content - generally you get dungeons -> Alliance -> Hard Trial -> Normal Raid -> Extreme -> Savage -> Ultimate.
Especially since Extreme weapons usually are what you want for Savage raids.
It's a habit from years. He will call everything 8 man raid cause that is how it's been done for 15 years in wow. Note how he still tries to compare difficulty to wow normal,hc, mythic.
can't wait to see his reaction to the Parting Glass patch, such a masterpiece that one
Pretty interesting reaction, especially considering you are fighting the equivalent FF's Molten Core and Oynxia. A lot of fight mechanical ideas were refined and improved on as time went on.
I had more fun with a lot of HW dungeons than I did with some of the raids and trails in ARR.
Looking forward to see you do coils which is some of the best raids that AAR have.