DABBSSON DBS2300: With a Price THIS low, it should NOT be THIS good (but it is...)
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
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Great Video....Like your Style. Thanks
Excellent unit in what must be the coolest looking demo room on UA-cam.
Thanks for the very informed and well thought out review. I purchased the DBS1300 after seeing this review showing that the company is good at engineering. I’ll add another DBS1300 if needed to get up to the capability of this unit. Subscribed.
I really appreciate your thoughtful and thorough review. Cheers!
Glad it was helpful! And thanks for the kind words!
Nice bit of kit 👍🏻
can't wait to see your review on the DOBBSSON DB3500 3430WH/ 3600W
Funny you mention that because I'm working it on right now! Haha
Appreciate your reviews, had my eye on this one for a few months so was interested to watch this. It looks like this is the newer model the 2300 plus, from what I can tell along with that parallel port it can accept more solar input. The one on Amazon currently for 1200 looks like the older one. I've seen that one go for as little as 999. I got scared away because in the Q&A section it mentions it's not suitable for devices with less than 400 watt output.
Nice solar generator and a good detailed review as always. I have a Allpowers S2000 and the Allpowers 400 watt solar panel that I purchase as a result of one of your reviews. You were right, it's a good setup. I thought I would let you know that on the Canada Amazon site this unit, Dabbsson 2300 is going for 3693.00 cdn or 2716.00 US dollars with no discount. Pretty crazy difference in price eh. Take care and looking forward to your next review.
Thanks! And always good to get input back from people who are using these products. :) Regarding CDN pricing...YIKES!!! What is the DEAL??? Does Canada have really aggressive import taxes or something? That is CRAZY! Ugh...
I have this unit it’s been great so far. They have excellent customer support too.
Great video, very similar price compared to the Anker 767 powerhouse. Those are on sale for $1,400 right now and this dabbsson for $1,200. What would you personally choose since they are only $200 difference and very similar specs.
Seems like a lot of these newer, medium-sized power stations are putting in more efficient AC inverters, but the DC side is not as efficient as it used to be. That's a little surprising, but I think it's because they're running at a higher voltage and having to use a buck converter to get down to ~12 volts. This does look like a surprisingly capable unit and a very good value, at least during the Prime Days pricing window.
Yeah, most of these units do have an internal voltage well above 12V. This one is 44.8V nominal, I believe. So yeah, they're losing some efficiency to reduce that back down to 12V.
I've had my DBS2300 main unit plus two DBS3000 battery units since July. Two main weaknesses. The app and overall unit monitoring does not work well when away from internet/Wifi. So, for off-grid, its not exactly a solid feeling when running this system. Others work just as well via BT as they do via Wifi, such as Ecoflow. Not the Dabbsson. The app overall could be better. Some information is just wrong, i.e., power flow directions. Some settings are not there, such as setting a maximum depth of discharge like you can with other brands. The second weakness is solar charging. In order to be able to have a substantial amount of solar input, you must have battery units. The main unit alone only has the one solar input port. Each battery has two solar input ports. Also, I wish the voltage limit on the solar ports was higher. Most solar panels these days are coming with 24V open circuit voltage. When you have a 60V limit, that means only two panels in series which gives a nominal input around 36-37V. 75V open circuit Voltage limit would be a lot better, so we can have three panels in series and then have a nominal input around 54-56V when charging. As they are, there is no way to get the "rated" 3000W worth of solar charging with a main unit and two battery units. That's not actually possible with any solar panels currently available and/or without custom designing and building special Voltage limiting circuits or similar devices. It's closer to 2200W total. Unlike other systems, the Dabbsson does not employ a current choke in the solar inputs. You can actually overcurrent the inputs, so overpanelling is also not an option. On the positive side, you are getting a lot of value with this system and its built like a tank.
The spec sheet on Dabbssons website says 12-60 Volts (Max 75) You may be aware of this by now.
@@Bamabrute85 The main unit I have (DBS2300, not the plus version) is still specified as 60V max and it says 60V on the unit itself. The two battery units I have (DBS3000B) say 75V max on the unit, but the manual says 60V max. In any case, you still have to be careful with most 24V panels out there, because they can open circuit above 25V's. Three of those in series would be above 75V. I really wish there was a current choke that would allow you to over panel.
I like seeing this feedback! Thank you for the information.
So are you saying if you put 3 panels in series, the unit will not recognize any solar coming in ? This is my deal breaker for this unit. A power station in this class should have higher solar voltage inputs
@@Firephosure Dabbsson has since revised/clarified the manual and information on the webpage. They are now stating the DBS2300 *Plus* and the DBS3000B can take up to 75V open circuit voltage, but the operating voltage should be 60V or less into the solar charging ports. This means you should be able to use three panels in series each with an open circuit voltage of 24V. The did not make this clarification on the DBS2300 non-Plus. It is still listed at a 60V open circuit volt max.
After doing some research and please correct me if I’m wrong, I believe this unit is the DBS2300 plus. According to Dabbsson customer service the DBS2300 cannot connect two units in parallel but can connect the extra batteries. The DBS2300 plus can do both. That’s interesting bc the user manual they sent you clearly says DBS2300.
It is slightly disarming that this is similar to my last name. There are not many of us on this planet.😅 Nice video!
Nice! Haha Dabson with no unnecessary BS. LoL!
My concern with all these "lesser known brands" is are they going to be around in 3-4 years from now when something could go wrong with the unit. They can provide a lifetime warranty, but if the company is gone in a couple of years, what good is the warranty for? Are the internal components going to hold over time?
That's my same issue with "better known brands". Quality *often* drops over time due to the cost cutting MBA culture. This can lead to the business going away. Every year, they cut quality by about 2 to 5%. It's not noticable at first, but at some point, the once wonderful product becomes crap.
I agree with you on "lifetime" deals of any kind. Ever since Sears went away, any "lifetime" deals are "three to five years before we go out of business, break the deal, change the deal, reduce availability, add painful requirements, reduce quality."
Hello sir, please rest assure that we will provide long-term and high quality warranty service as best as we can. DABBSSON have 12 years of experience in renewable energy industry and have a self owned factory of 173,000sqm factory, where we make our own product. Although we only just stared to sell our own product 6 months ago, we already plan many new module and will gradually launch them.
@dabbsson_official1209 what did your company do before making portable power stations? I can't find much online.
@@Bamabrute85 Hello sir, thanks for taking an interest in our journey. We used to develop and make on-board-charger for electric vehicles, variable frequency power supply and frequency conversion motor drive etc. Working with GM, Nissan and many other renowned partners, we cover 6.2% of on-board-charger of the world. Throughout the years, we gradually develop and improve our own tech and are finally ready to present our own brand of product, power stations, batteries, inverters and many more to come, to the world.
@@dabbsson_official1209but any sponsored review wouldn't get released unless it was positive. No one sends out products to the smaller channels. I run an offgrid house in the UK. If you really want an honest performance review send me one
Curious about how COLD weather/temps affect the Dabbsson products; Winter temps below zero and above.
Can you please explain semi solid state vs solid state?
Ive yet to purchase a power station. I need something that will hold up to all my future adventures. I camp in my 2016 Honda Pilot. I'd like a solar panel on my roof ect.
So many choices on the market for a good power station. My brain is drained trying to choose.
I would've liked to see you test 2 units in parallel. I know they only sent you one. However, as usual, a great review.
Yeah I'd have liked to test that too.
Agreed. I own this DBS2300 and there are only a few videos showing their matching extended battery unit plugged into the DBS2300. In my setup I have a 200ah 12v lithium battery connected to the DBS2300 via a 12v to 24v boost converter rated for 20amps. The DBS sees 200 watts input with this setup. I think their expansion battery would have the ability to input much more to equalize the two units when in use, but there are no good videos confirming this or testing. Am hesitant to purchase the expansion battery not knowing. We use the DBS2300 while traveling in our RV (it will run the 13.5K btu Coleman Mach 2 roof ac with soft start). When home and when needed, it's connected to our generator transfer switch via an L14-30 to 5-15 male plug adapter and will run our big fridge, boiler for heat, as well as everything else in the house on the 10 circuits serviced by the transfer panel. It's been solid and would not hesitate to purchase it again. @@ReeWrayOutdoors
@ReeWrayOutoors, could you tell me about the boost converter you mentioned and how you connected to the 200 ah lithium?
What is that port all the way to the right on the front panel? It looks like a USB that would hook up to a PC like a lot of the standard computer UPS's use for control, which allows the PC to shut down before the battery dies. If that is what it is, that would be a first for any portable power station and another good selling point. Great review as always! Again, you are the first reviewer of this product:)
Hello there, that port is actually used for repairing if the unit is needed to be repaired or inspected by our engineers. Unfortunately, we do not have the function that will enable the PC to shut down automatically before the battery dies yet. But we see your advice and will consider to add this feature to our future product.
@@dabbsson_official1209 Thanks for your reply! Still a great power station:)
What is the discharge rate over time when the unit is turned off completely. My Anker 757 loses 1% per day when averaged over a 30 day period which I find excessive.
The Casing looks somewhat similar to my Wetown. Im guessing only handful of Chinese companies make all these Solar Generators. But im also guessing only one Chinese dood in his basement comes up with these names
Any thoughts on this vs the Pecron e2000? The Pecron is at $800 right now with promo code. Biggest difference I see is solar input between the two units. If this had 240v I would go with it but 3000w seems a bit much for just 120v. Nice work on this video.
Thanks! Both this and the Pecron seem to be very solid units in terms of construction and capability. There's no question that the pecron is an incredible deal right now at that price. I do like that the DBS2300 has a 4 year warranty. I also like that the expansions have such good solar input capacity...but I also haven't gotten my hands on one yet..so I'm just going on the specs there. It's a tough call between these 2 options.
Literally my issue as of right now. I can't decide in-between this unit and the pecron e2000. Pecrons deal right now with 2 200w solar panels (400w) total for 1400 is a steal. Vs this unit and a 200w solar panel for 1600. Yes this dabbsson has app functionality and has higher battery capacity at 2300kw vs the pecrons 1936 capacity. Both units seem great in there own way... But like I said it's been the hardest decision for me to make a decision on which one to get. I understand the dabbsson will effectively power majority of appliances and slightly last a lil longer vs the pecron, but pecron has a decently sized fan base and based off reviews has great customer service. So me personally I'm stuck and don't know what to pull the trigger on
Bonjour et merci pour votre vidéo. J ai constaté une différence importante entre le courant 220v consommé réellement pour charger et les Watts qui rentrent réellement dans la batterie. La SAV Dabbsson m'a envoyé une mise à jour mais malheureusement celà ne change rien. Par exemple, je demande dans l'application une charge à 200w et la consommation réelle à mon wattmètre est de 250w. Si je demande 1800w consommation réelle 1950w. Que pensez-vous de ce phénomène ? Avec mes remerciements. Jean Jacques 57 printemps. France. Sézanne. 😊
2 of these in parallel would be a really good setup. Very affordable too.
better off doing a DIY setup like the Will Prowse video where he bolts a battery and inverter to a dolly.
@DanielRichards644 lmao but you bought one anyways...
Hi David,
You always do the best and most thorough reviews, I have a few questions, if you don't mind. Please excuse my ignorance as I am fairly new to learning about solar and power stations.
Does this power station have 600 watts of solar intake or 800? On Amazon they have a plus version that can take 800 watts. I guess it's a new upgraded version of this model. In the owners manual, in PDF, listed on the Amazon listing it says 600 watts. Both of the models listed have a solar voltage intake range of 12 to 60 volts, I believe. My second and final question is, if you hook this unit up to your 800 watt BougeRV solar array, you would have to hook it up in parallel and not series, correct? In series, it would be too many volts, yes? Sorry for my lack of understanding, I am just learning and learning a lot thanks to you.
I hope the new place is working out for you and your wife. I'm sure the added space will allow you many more options when it comes to powering by solar.
Thank you so much for this channel and passing along your knowledge, it is very much appreciated.
----- Steve.
Hi Steve. Thanks for the kinds words! :) As I understand it, their 'original' release of the DBS2300 took only 600W of solar, but the new (current) model has been upgraded to accept 800W of solar. You'd think they would have incremented the model number...or appended a 'B' or something....to prevent confusion. :P And you are correct about the 60V limit on that solar input. I can still connect my 800W array, but to do it without risking damage to the DBS2300's charge controller, I'd need to use a couple of parallel branch adapters. Since each 200W panel has Voc of 22V and Isc of 12A, I'd create 2 series pairs, giving me ~44V @ 12A on each pair. Then, I use the parallel branch connectors to parallel those 2 pairs resulting in ~44V @up to 24A...which would be within that 60V/25A max on the DBS2300's charge controller. And btw, we are definitely liking the new rural home. :) I only wish I had more time to enjoy it! The move took about 3x more time and energy than I anticipated so I've been playing catch-up for the past several weeks. :P Hoping to get back to a 'normal' daily pace in the next month or so.
Thank you for the fast response David. So 2 panels in series and the other 2 in series, then both sets in parallel.
Yes, when they upgraded this model, it would have been nice if they added the word "plus" or "+" to the model number. It looks like a good unit with the semi-solid state, LiFePo4 batteries. A great value right now too.
Sorry it had taken so much time to get settled in, when you do get back to your "normal" pace, the snow will be flying, but just think how nice it will be next spring and summer at the new place.
-----Steve.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors
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This vid showed up in my suggestions. I had no idea what he was talking about until 2+minutes in when he pulled it out of the box.
Merci pour votre vidéo. Jean Jacques 57 printemps. France. Sézanne
Can you please review the smaller version of this unit (dbs1300)? Its 1330Wh and is about $550 with discounts, seems enticing.
I've it for about 2mos now. It's a very nice unit and very similar in operation to the larger brother presented here minus the toggle switches by charging ports.
I swapped AC180 for the 1300 and it's more capacity (measured by kill o watt), lighter and smaller. The largest advantage to me is higher PV charging current. Dabbsson will pull 12A at lower voltages while AC180 maxes out at 8A below 28V.
One disadvantage is that while I like the app, it doesn't provide Volt or Amp details for charging, only Watts.
I hope this helps.
Pecron has there 2000watt for 899
How was the fan sound when you did the AC Output?
Tout dépends de la puissance de charge réglable entre 50w et 1800w.
Great content! Can the Bluetooth/wifi be disabled? Thanks in advance.
As far as I can tell, the IoT button on the front of the unit only lets you reset the Bluetooth/WiFi configuration, (ie put it into pairing mode), but doesn't actually give you a way to disable the BT/Wifi connection.
Does it go into sleep mode if there is no AC draw on the unit for a certain period of time? If so, can you disable the sleep mode function?
Oui. avec l'application. Vous régler les 3 veilles AC DC et screen. Cordialement. Jean Jacques 57 printemps. France
EV companies aren`t selling cars. Lots of automotive grade batteries out there that need to be used. So prices should be even lower than this. I use solar power stations but the only way I can get real value on a fixed income is to buy batteries and later the individual parts each month to build my own systems.
Yeah man...if you're DIY-minded and have the confidence to do it, building your own system from components is definitely a great way to go.
does it support both solar and AC changer at the sometime?
Oui évidemment
There are a lot of no name brands entering the market at the moment! All jumping on the boom in power stations, trying to make a quick buck! A lot don't ship to my part of the world, as we only have 240v mains power 110v is of no use to us! Not that i need anymore power stations! 🙄 Although I still want to get a Zendure Superbase! 😂
where do you live?
Sir I need 220v input&output . maybe available this protect ?
Thanks sir
Portable Solar Power Station QUESTION:
In a completely off grid scenario,
(ie. only Solar Panels to recharge),
Can this (or any other),
portable solar power station,
be programmed to automatically
turn ON the AC Outlet circuit,
once the battery is sufficiently charged,
WITHOUT human intervention, ???
So that it can automatically provide
power to any AC connected items,
without having to go to the remote location.
For Example:
If there is a shed located
in the middle of a corn field,
where grid power does not exist,
a portable solar power station,
could provide power
to a camera NVR system,
for security.
If the battery ever run out of energy,
the next day after the solar panels
recharge the batteries to a sufficient level,
I would like the AC Outlets,
to automatically turn on,
allowing the NVR to boot, and begin recording, without any intervention by me.
Who makes a unit that offers this functionality?
What Brand, and Model?
What is a search term that can be used in google to search for this capability?
thx
Hello there. Although not automatic, the 2300 can actually to use APP to remotely turn on the AC outlet. When you connect the DBS2300 to solar panels and your 2300 lose power over the night and go to shut down, it will be automatically booted on the next day when there is solar power charging the unit. Then you can use Dabbsson APP to remotely turn on the AC output to provide power to your connected AC appliances/devices.
I appreciate the response reply, but this will not work in the middle of a corn field.
I need the AC to turn on without any human intervention.
If you run across a system with this capability, please reply again.
thx
@@Just_An_Idea_For_Consideration you should look into a DIY system that uses an inverter with what I believe is called "Dark Start Capability", that is the ability to turn itself back on, if you check out the Will Prowse video where he reviews the XP6000 or 6000XP he mentions how that unit has that capability and also mentions 2 units (one being the Ecoflow Delta Pro) that are similar to this thing that will do what you want.
Hi! Can you please tell if it is noisy while working? From your review it seems to make quite some noise...
Guess I completely missed showing that! :P I wouldn't say it's 'whisper quiet', but it outputs about 54dB or so when the fans are running full-out. From my perspective, it's fairly non-instrusive white-noise and not something that would bother me, as long as it wasn't constantly cycling on and off for some reason.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors thank you for your quick reply! Could you please specify if the fans are turning on in low load situations, such as using PC with the monitor for instance (~250 watts in total)? If they do, do they make less noise than 54dB? I’ve also read that the inverter on this model consumes up to 100 watts, making it less efficient in low load situations. Did you notice anything like that?
I noticed the box states lithium ion, can you check please?
It has semi-solid state LiFePo4 batteries. Rated at 4000 cycles to 80%. It's a much safer type of battery. Probably the best battery you can get in a power station right now.
@@StevefromOhio1972 just one of several inconsistencies with this company, packaging doesn't match marketing and marketing conflicts with documentation, take for example, the marketing says you can run up to 25 amps in the Solar Input but the documentation says it's limited to 12 Amps
Do i buy this one or the ugreen 2200???
Tout dépend de vos besoins. Comment voulez-vous que l'on réponde à votre place.
Price of this power station in Europe is awful : 0,81 cents per Wh !! And this is with a current discount. Nobody will buy an unknown brand at such a high price.
Chacun fait ce qu'il veut de son argent.
It's a lot less than that in the US.
Where do they find these names
Hahaha seriously!
They use a sophisticated team of military grade robots that are far more intelligent than mere humans.
These are wonderful *but* are not yet a substitute for a generator.
A unit like this will run a lap top computer all day (100w/hour) , or lights and a fan all day (21w , 50w), but only run one 5000btu AC for 4 hours (500w/hour), or a fridge for 10 hours (about 200w/hour if you don't open it- then 700w for a while). And are no good for heating (1000w/hour).
They are good for keeping you with lights, fans, charging your devices and running a laptop or tv/cable box (80w total) for 8 hours a day. They are good for short term *storm* outages. Always confirm you can draw power while it is charging. I have one great EBL unit that drops to 10w output while charging.
This class of devices are supposed to be about 40% cheaper by 2025. So by 2027, they will be closer to generators.
For $500 you can get a 4000 watt propane/gasoline generator with electric start that will run you about $40 per day to keep power on to your entire house (except for central a/c-- well you could but it would be expensive and require an electrician). Get 6 gallons of propane (keeps indefinately) and you have *disaster* recovery backup for $800 setup (and $120 to refill).
These solar batteries are great for camping trips, beach trips, and storm outages.
En effet. Chacun choisit ce qu'il veut. Et chacun dépense son argent comme il veut. C'est la démocratie.
Don’t have time to answer my question ha😂
Hi Rosana. Sometimes it's a time constraint, and sometimes a visibility constraint. :P In your case, it was both. UA-cam doesn't make me aware of every comment I receive, so to see them all, I'd have to be constantly scanning all of my videos to see them....and as you might guess, that would require more time than I'm able to spare, despite my efforts to be as responsive as possible. I did a search on your name and found that you have posted questions on at least 3 occasions with the most recent asking about how much solar would meet your needs. To provide an accurate estimate, I'd really need more information about the power consumption of your devices. But just based on the average power requirements of the sample of devices you listed (and again, this is just a rough guess as there are many variables), 2000Wh to 3000Wh of battery capacity per 24-hr period might be a good starting point. To recharge that amount of battery capacity in a single day of decent sun conditions, you would divide 3000Wh by 5, which would give you about 600W of solar (rated output). So with 600W of solar on an average day of good sun, you should be able to fully recharge 3000Wh of battery capacity. Keep in mind that solar is much less expensive that battery capacity...so you COULD probably get by with less battery capacity and MORE solar - depending on how long your devices need to run and whether or not they typically run during the day during solar power generation, or at night when they'd have to be powered off of stored energy in your batteries. So you see, it's a complicated calculation and in the end, you're really left with an estimate that is hopefully reasonably close to a solution that meets your needs. I hope that helps a little, at least. And here's a video that covers much of this in a bit more detail: ua-cam.com/video/nGG0Hnv9p50/v-deo.htmlsi=uti67hnD8Q7ZI11h
@@ReeWrayOutdoors thanks you. With your ideas I can increase battery and solar panel yearly. For the moment I only use light, small cooler at night. Day time I'm using some electric building machines. So in total; start with about 1800w. S.Panel of one 400w?. Ecoflow have more combine products. Is this ok. What do I need more? I'll so glad , you answer me. Thank you for your time. All the best, Rosana
Nice
But the jury still out.
Too early to know.
New unknown company
I’ve had mine for over a year now, and use it frequently. There have been zero issues at all.