This fixes forward head posture. This type of physical therapy is hard to find. I had an old school therapist in Northern Idaho and all he did was concentrate on my core,diaphragm exercises, breathing and getting my ribs to collapse instead of being in a hyper extended position. Great job😊
What he shows with exercise #1 is the re-enforcement of the forward head posture. I did it for some time and it gave me a lot of problems with my neck.
I’ve seen logical explanations that part of foreword head posture can be due to poor jaw development and/or extract orthodontics. I also have rib flare on primarily one side and asymmetrical pelvis issues. If I find success with this exercise and getting more expansion in the upper ribs I’ll try to remember to report back.
@@CandBYoung that makes total sense because I've had tons of surgeries on my jaw and dental procedures. I've always had an incling that it was dental related. Thank you for sharing 😇
I trained as a singer years ago, and eventually gave up. I just couldn't seem to get the breathing right. I became hyper focused on breathing in; taking in sufficient air and 'opening the throat' in order to be ready to sing. In the process I got 'stuck' as described in this video. This not only ruined my singing, but led to pelvic pain and headaches (both ends of the breathing process). What finally did it for me was when a physio noticed what I was (or wasn't) doing on the out breath and physically pulled my ribs in with her hands and told me to blow like I was blowing out a candle as I was sucking my lower ribcage inwards. The problem with any video is that you cannot describe in words or images what it feels like when you experience something for the first time. In an instant, my centre of gravity was lower. I was no longer living 'in my chest'. When I took an in breath, my upper chest didn't puff out like a peacock anymore. My upper ribs no longer felt like they were jammed into my armpits.
This is an area in particular that I struggle with. Lots of extended sitting related to work over the years. Also, this area can be considerably affected due to "armoring" or protecting oneself in relation to trauma and other psychological influences. Breathing correctly is SO important.
Thanku for giving out such simple yet valuable info for free . Just doing 3 rounds of it for the first time instantly made me feel so calm n relaxed . 🙏
So well explained. I tried the first and it is effective. This will help to improve my posture. I plan do this regularly until i can achieve a healthy exhale.
This was the missing piece to my anterior pelvic tilt. Had that bloated look. Tight lower back. I had no idea I was breathing all wrong ! Feeling more stacked and improved my overhead shoulder mobility during shoulder flexion. Outstanding information here if you struggle with anterior pelvic tilt and have bloated looking stomach
@@MrRojas54 yeah i strengthened my glute medius on both sides. Spent months opening up my hips and lengthen/strengthening my hamstrings. I had very very tight lats that contributed to my lack of overhead mobility. I would stretch out my lats on gymnastics rings hanging for minutes at a time. Strengthen the posterior chain overall. But I would say out of all it. This was the most important piece of the puzzle. I did not have trouble keeping my knees a part during this exercise.
Great Conor! I was struggling with getting my posture better. After this exercise i felt less pain on the right side of my ribcage and my right foot, muscles in my back tingeling which i never felt and my body immediately more balanced afterwards. This really gives me hope again the pain might get less. Thank you so much! You should do a start here or overview video and link to it in every video you make :) Keep it up!
Thanks for the great videos as always Conor. One thing that's on my mind is the difficulty of pinpointing what issues to target. I can comfortably say that i clearly exhibit over half of the postural and systemic dysfunctions that your videos address. I realize this is where help from a practitioner might be helpful, but it feels hard to find someone who won't just give me the run of the mill exercises. The difficulty lies in that for a lot of issues, everything works. Many are so stationary and sedentary that any movement will display improvement. Would that then be your suggestion? As long as nothing is painful or problematic enough, general strength and conditioning with a little awareness is enough? But it feels like the compounding weight of my issues makes me very prone to overuse and injury, as has been proven to me. I feel ready to really dedicate time and energy to improving my body. But what do i focus on, when I can't do everything? I tried fixing my flat feet and got my arch back, but foot is still overpronated. Tibia is stuck in external rotation, do i target that? But femur is internally rotated so that also has to give. But unlocking the hip is impossible while stuck in anterior pelvic tilt, need to train glutes and now breathing aswell? My teeth apparently play a role aswell. Should i get custom insoles to cue correct mechanics through my superficial arch? Is this dilemma something you can comment on? Not my exact situation, but this struggle of finding "the piece". Is there even A piece? Or have you already thought of this when making your programs?
Good stuff. Most people have way over calcified soft tissue by their 40s and by 50 many vertebrae are fused. Dumb ass doctors say this is "natural aging". I reverse this in myself and clients all the time. Everything like this can be cleared. Scoliosis also
@@BuzzBoar Nutritional surplus, over saturation of various magnesiums etc to bind with released calcium, lots of internal movement "grinding" open the joint, then "bouncing" to upregulate soft tissue and synovial fluid.
I have been trying to fix my Left AIC pattern for over a year now and then I recently found out that I have been extremely flared in my ribs with the forward head and APT. When I allow my ribs to go down my posture is absolutely horrible. Thank you for all you do Connor!
Tough to fix I have issues with the left rib flare and post media stinum expansion keeping me to the left. Now I feel like the issue he describes here is keeping me unstacked. Frustrating trying to get all the pieces to align
You have to do things in steps. First should be addressing the ZOA, then when you can feel posterior expansion, left obliques etc, work on getting air into the anterior right chest wall, but you can't do that without going through step 1 first. And ofc there may be lower body issues too.
My left ribs were flared and pelvis out to right side and i was stuck in in a very shallow stomach breathing. All kinds of health problems includingn heart issues. Changed my diet began self therapy 6 months ago but i was missing the right breathing technique, saw your vidoe on how to fix pelvis and then the other about breathin texhniques to fix rib and in the last 4 days my posture has improved dramatically, i have wrinkles on my forehead for the longest time, they almost gone, i still have to do it conscioult still not automatic, but i have high hopes. Thank you, thank you so much. If you stay consistent this is possible.
Hey I’ve felt the same way for so long , since you posted the comment how has this helped you out, I’d like to know so I can keep doing this and maybe I’ll be alright soon.
Something which helped me tremendously on fixing my imbalances was getting a few adjustments at a NUCCA clinic. Had been trying to fix my issues for about 4 years, with daily yoga and PRI exercises, but it wasn't until I got the adjustment that it unlocked my body and allowed the PRI exercises to really start working.
@@Lovelesh281 They focus on the top 3 vertebrae of the spine, and for me, it was my C1 that was out of alignment. Once I got the adjustment (which only takes about 5 seconds), it has a knock on effect throughout the rest of your body, which will start to align itself in the preceding weeks. When you feel muscles release tension for the first time in however many years, it's absolutely amazing haha.
I'm wondering if this is of benefit to or if that exercise may be a problem for, people that have a herniated hiatus? I've suffered with severe hiatal hernia much of my life. It causes me severe mid spine pain at times and certain attempts to stretch and restore, especially deep squats, or anything that increases abdominal pressure, often exacerbate the hernia.
Thank's for the content, i have rib flare on the left side, and for the right side i have rib heading inwards, can you give me a solution to my problem. Thank you again
I'm confused. "Side abs" are involved in exhalation? What if I don't get that sensation? I feel exhalation as pressure over my chest. Even palpation on the "side abs" don't do nothing. Inhalation on the other hand absolutely engaged my abs.
Can u make on my problem i have one side of body tighter then other my one side rib nd soulder r so strong then other nd i will confertble with right side of my body then my left but now its getting worst nd i got aymetric face 😭😭😭😭😭😭plz solve this
Hi. I am not able to lay flat on my back without my head and neck protruding upward. I need to stack books behind my head to take the tension off my neck and allow my head to rest in a neutral position. Will this breathing technique assist in correcting this issue? Thank you for your time.
Connor, can you say about abs permanent cramp, if you touch your belly it hurts like trigger point. why it maybe happent. Thank you for all you doing. Breathing correctly help a lot, and alleviate this belly cramp. Greatings from Moldova.
I have a problem with my diaphragm is not working properly for a while my physical therapist told that works backward besides my left side doesn’t extend as the right side so that means I am a mess because my breathing is not good when I inhale the air gets stuck in the middle of my chest but if I am doing it lay down is easier. I feel more pain in my right side from head to toe than the left side but she told me that my left side is the weaker but I feel less sensation than the right and right now I don’t even know where to start working because the pain is in my whole body
In of your left aic videos , you said that we need to het air into right chest wall to expand it and here we need to get air into back of ribcage. Aren't these opposite things. I don't get it can you explain?
When I do this my legs get more externally rotated and when I’m in pelvic tilt my legs have greater internal rotation, my goal is to have more internal rotation but this just makes it seem like I’m moving away from that
When i exhale, right at the end my ribs feel like they pop at the bottom. No pain but feels extremely weird..is that normal to begin with? Ive only done 1 session, thanks 🙏
I am up early before work doing these exercises. Can you tell me how to turn off the front abs more? I feel mostly front abs exhaling in #1 and holding breath in #2. Thank you.
Couldnt have made this video 4 years ago huh? Quick question, how important is it between open and closed hips? Not gonna get into a whole story, been in chronic pain for years, sjgnificant breathing issues, 2 hip surgeries all the stuff. I trained Muah Thai for years where in most fighting styles your advised to almost always be in an open hip position. I feel like my breathing improves in a closed hip position so i think jm looking for a bit of confirmation bias
When i finished the sitting against the wall exercise my head was between my knees and my upper back opened up a ton. Hips started to relax. When im all twisted up my hips get very narrow and high, ribs get tight. Everything gets tight. I get taller. Neck get longer. Head rotates forward. At this point i feel like cage wrestling a saquatch to the death
I feel super uncomfortable doing this exercise and i feel like my back muscles are very weak and tired after few breaths. What is my problem and how can i fix it?
I started bikram (hot) yoga two months ago, after having done yoga for a while, and the first step in the sequence is a similar breathing technique and after a month or so my diaphragm ascended. My bra fits differently. This stuff works! Also lookup the bikram breathing step!
It's easy to forget what is relaxed when one is stressed and tired. These exercises, like feldenkrais, help us remember to do this consciously, which reinforces the subconscious to follow and relax.
Please help it feels so tight and painful when I try to breath through my back, my posture is bad, and idk if im doing it correctly. My right side will not let go pain around my right shoulderblade
Don't force yourself. Go to a professional physio therapist instead of trying to find some magic exercise on the internet. You can hurt yourself that way.
Start slow and work your way up to the full exercise. Stop and stay in the position just before you feel pain. And slowly advance over a couple of days. Your body probably isn’t used to this and is accustomed to bad positioning over a very long time. You always wanna go slow if this is the case. It’ll get better and improve over time if you keep at it
Perhaps find a good chiropractor or physical therapist to assess whether it's an injury or your natural muscle tone. Or try the exercises but go slowly to the point of a little tiny pain. Next day or two, you'll notice you have more range of motion. That's how I healed my damaged finger.
This fixes forward head posture. This type of physical therapy is hard to find. I had an old school therapist in Northern Idaho and all he did was concentrate on my core,diaphragm exercises, breathing and getting my ribs to collapse instead of being in a hyper extended position. Great job😊
What he shows with exercise #1 is the re-enforcement of the forward head posture. I did it for some time and it gave me a lot of problems with my neck.
@@undefeat2000 sorry 😞 that's too bad. It definitely worked for me
@@stephaniefoster8009do you know anything that really fixes apt and aic and right bc pattern?
I’ve seen logical explanations that part of foreword head posture can be due to poor jaw development and/or extract orthodontics. I also have rib flare on primarily one side and asymmetrical pelvis issues. If I find success with this exercise and getting more expansion in the upper ribs I’ll try to remember to report back.
@@CandBYoung that makes total sense because I've had tons of surgeries on my jaw and dental procedures. I've always had an incling that it was dental related. Thank you for sharing 😇
Thank you finally someone who is speaking clearly and slowly and literally describing what I have dealt with for years.
I trained as a singer years ago, and eventually gave up. I just couldn't seem to get the breathing right. I became hyper focused on breathing in; taking in sufficient air and 'opening the throat' in order to be ready to sing. In the process I got 'stuck' as described in this video. This not only ruined my singing, but led to pelvic pain and headaches (both ends of the breathing process). What finally did it for me was when a physio noticed what I was (or wasn't) doing on the out breath and physically pulled my ribs in with her hands and told me to blow like I was blowing out a candle as I was sucking my lower ribcage inwards. The problem with any video is that you cannot describe in words or images what it feels like when you experience something for the first time. In an instant, my centre of gravity was lower. I was no longer living 'in my chest'. When I took an in breath, my upper chest didn't puff out like a peacock anymore. My upper ribs no longer felt like they were jammed into my armpits.
I have found that dumbbell pullovers also help with this part of the body.
Magic. This is exactly what I was needing. When I get out of alignment, this gives me my go-to starting move.
This is an area in particular that I struggle with. Lots of extended sitting related to work over the years. Also, this area can be considerably affected due to "armoring" or protecting oneself in relation to trauma and other psychological influences. Breathing correctly is SO important.
Yes I believe my gyno caused mine
I respect you a lot, a fellow master mechanic/engineer. Your solutions are innovative and effective.
Thanku for giving out such simple yet valuable info for free . Just doing 3 rounds of it for the first time instantly made me feel so calm n relaxed . 🙏
So well explained. I tried the first and it is effective. This will help to improve my posture. I plan do this regularly until i can achieve a healthy exhale.
This was the missing piece to my anterior pelvic tilt. Had that bloated look. Tight lower back. I had no idea I was breathing all wrong ! Feeling more stacked and improved my overhead shoulder mobility during shoulder flexion. Outstanding information here if you struggle with anterior pelvic tilt and have bloated looking stomach
How long did it take for you to get results? Did you do anything other than what's in this video?
Also, did you have trouble keeping your knees together?
@@MrRojas54 yeah i strengthened my glute medius on both sides. Spent months opening up my hips and lengthen/strengthening my hamstrings. I had very very tight lats that contributed to my lack of overhead mobility. I would stretch out my lats on gymnastics rings hanging for minutes at a time. Strengthen the posterior chain overall. But I would say out of all it. This was the most important piece of the puzzle. I did not have trouble keeping my knees a part during this exercise.
@@ponyboy7825 Thanks for the info. Stay strong brother🏋️♂️
Hi I wanna talk to you I'm suffering from everything you just mentioned, can I get your discord/reddit or something
Great Conor! I was struggling with getting my posture better. After this exercise i felt less pain on the right side of my ribcage and my right foot, muscles in my back tingeling which i never felt and my body immediately more balanced afterwards. This really gives me hope again the pain might get less.
Thank you so much! You should do a start here or overview video and link to it in every video you make :)
Keep it up!
Thanks for the great videos as always Conor. One thing that's on my mind is the difficulty of pinpointing what issues to target. I can comfortably say that i clearly exhibit over half of the postural and systemic dysfunctions that your videos address. I realize this is where help from a practitioner might be helpful, but it feels hard to find someone who won't just give me the run of the mill exercises.
The difficulty lies in that for a lot of issues, everything works. Many are so stationary and sedentary that any movement will display improvement. Would that then be your suggestion? As long as nothing is painful or problematic enough, general strength and conditioning with a little awareness is enough? But it feels like the compounding weight of my issues makes me very prone to overuse and injury, as has been proven to me.
I feel ready to really dedicate time and energy to improving my body. But what do i focus on, when I can't do everything? I tried fixing my flat feet and got my arch back, but foot is still overpronated. Tibia is stuck in external rotation, do i target that? But femur is internally rotated so that also has to give. But unlocking the hip is impossible while stuck in anterior pelvic tilt, need to train glutes and now breathing aswell? My teeth apparently play a role aswell. Should i get custom insoles to cue correct mechanics through my superficial arch?
Is this dilemma something you can comment on? Not my exact situation, but this struggle of finding "the piece". Is there even A piece? Or have you already thought of this when making your programs?
Thank you…best, clearest and most concise video to date.
Good stuff. Most people have way over calcified soft tissue by their 40s and by 50 many vertebrae are fused. Dumb ass doctors say this is "natural aging". I reverse this in myself and clients all the time. Everything like this can be cleared. Scoliosis also
Need mire info
More info plz
Can I be ur client
Cleared how?
@@BuzzBoar Nutritional surplus, over saturation of various magnesiums etc to bind with released calcium, lots of internal movement "grinding" open the joint, then "bouncing" to upregulate soft tissue and synovial fluid.
I have been trying to fix my Left AIC pattern for over a year now and then I recently found out that I have been extremely flared in my ribs with the forward head and APT. When I allow my ribs to go down my posture is absolutely horrible.
Thank you for all you do Connor!
Tough to fix I have issues with the left rib flare and post media stinum expansion keeping me to the left. Now I feel like the issue he describes here is keeping me unstacked. Frustrating trying to get all the pieces to align
You have to do things in steps. First should be addressing the ZOA, then when you can feel posterior expansion, left obliques etc, work on getting air into the anterior right chest wall, but you can't do that without going through step 1 first. And ofc there may be lower body issues too.
@@WooliteMammothwhat's Zoa?
@@Devil-ig7kl zone of apposition. I suggest going through Conor's and other PRI videos to get familiar with the lingo!
My left ribs were flared and pelvis out to right side and i was stuck in in a very shallow stomach breathing. All kinds of health problems includingn heart issues. Changed my diet began self therapy 6 months ago but i was missing the right breathing technique, saw your vidoe on how to fix pelvis and then the other about breathin texhniques to fix rib and in the last 4 days my posture has improved dramatically, i have wrinkles on my forehead for the longest time, they almost gone, i still have to do it conscioult still not automatic, but i have high hopes. Thank you, thank you so much.
If you stay consistent this is possible.
Hey I’ve felt the same way for so long , since you posted the comment how has this helped you out, I’d like to know so I can keep doing this and maybe I’ll be alright soon.
Best fitness guy thank you awesome suffering from arthritis meniscus tear these are good exercises thank you so much
Something which helped me tremendously on fixing my imbalances was getting a few adjustments at a NUCCA clinic. Had been trying to fix my issues for about 4 years, with daily yoga and PRI exercises, but it wasn't until I got the adjustment that it unlocked my body and allowed the PRI exercises to really start working.
Can you tell me what adjustments were they?
@@Lovelesh281 They focus on the top 3 vertebrae of the spine, and for me, it was my C1 that was out of alignment. Once I got the adjustment (which only takes about 5 seconds), it has a knock on effect throughout the rest of your body, which will start to align itself in the preceding weeks. When you feel muscles release tension for the first time in however many years, it's absolutely amazing haha.
Maybe you had trauma in muscles that needed to be released. Trigger points ?
Some yoga disciplines teach to breath into the back. Challenging to feel and master. Worth the effort.
I'm wondering if this is of benefit to or if that exercise may be a problem for, people that have a herniated hiatus? I've suffered with severe hiatal hernia much of my life. It causes me severe mid spine pain at times and certain attempts to stretch and restore, especially deep squats, or anything that increases abdominal pressure, often exacerbate the hernia.
This is an amazing video!
Going to do this from now on occasionally. Will keep you updated in the replies.
You are brilliant!!
You’re truly a life saver Conor, thank you for all you do ❤️
If you want to open up the back . Doesnt it make sense to reach with supinated forearm?
Youre my Harris, Conor!
Thank you. This is really valuable information for self-regulation and improving mental and physical health.
Thank's for the content, i have rib flare on the left side, and for the right side i have rib heading inwards, can you give me a solution to my problem. Thank you again
Conor you often develop about the anterior pelvic but what's the condition of a posterior pelvic tilt then?
I'm confused. "Side abs" are involved in exhalation?
What if I don't get that sensation? I feel exhalation as pressure over my chest. Even palpation on the "side abs" don't do nothing. Inhalation on the other hand absolutely engaged my abs.
Can u make on my problem i have one side of body tighter then other my one side rib nd soulder r so strong then other nd i will confertble with right side of my body then my left but now its getting worst nd i got aymetric face 😭😭😭😭😭😭plz solve this
Hi. I am not able to lay flat on my back without my head and neck protruding upward. I need to stack books behind my head to take the tension off my neck and allow my head to rest in a neutral position. Will this breathing technique assist in correcting this issue? Thank you for your time.
when i do breating exhale out my lower back is pain. and also i get dizzy in brain cause of the exhale? is this normal?
Connor, can you say about abs permanent cramp, if you touch your belly it hurts like trigger point. why it maybe happent. Thank you for all you doing. Breathing correctly help a lot, and alleviate this belly cramp. Greatings from Moldova.
If i don't feel my abs during breathing does that mean i don't have issues with my ribs?
I have a problem with my diaphragm is not working properly for a while my physical therapist told that works backward besides my left side doesn’t extend as the right side so that means I am a mess because my breathing is not good when I inhale the air gets stuck in the middle of my chest but if I am doing it lay down is easier. I feel more pain in my right side from head to toe than the left side but she told me that my left side is the weaker but I feel less sensation than the right and right now I don’t even know where to start working because the pain is in my whole body
Watching this: *Breathing has been set to manual*
You'e incredible. Are you fully booked for 1-1?
In of your left aic videos , you said that we need to het air into right chest wall to expand it and here we need to get air into back of ribcage. Aren't these opposite things. I don't get it can you explain?
When I do this my legs get more externally rotated and when I’m in pelvic tilt my legs have greater internal rotation, my goal is to have more internal rotation but this just makes it seem like I’m moving away from that
Thank you for the video boss
When i exhale, right at the end my ribs feel like they pop at the bottom. No pain but feels extremely weird..is that normal to begin with? Ive only done 1 session, thanks 🙏
I am up early before work doing these exercises. Can you tell me how to turn off the front abs more? I feel mostly front abs exhaling in #1 and holding breath in #2. Thank you.
Couldnt have made this video 4 years ago huh? Quick question, how important is it between open and closed hips? Not gonna get into a whole story, been in chronic pain for years, sjgnificant breathing issues, 2 hip surgeries all the stuff. I trained Muah Thai for years where in most fighting styles your advised to almost always be in an open hip position. I feel like my breathing improves in a closed hip position so i think jm looking for a bit of confirmation bias
When I do this I feel a stretch/resistance in my upper back. Does that mean my rib cage is stiff?
When i finished the sitting against the wall exercise my head was between my knees and my upper back opened up a ton. Hips started to relax. When im all twisted up my hips get very narrow and high, ribs get tight. Everything gets tight. I get taller. Neck get longer. Head rotates forward. At this point i feel like cage wrestling a saquatch to the death
What's the idea with the right-arm reach? What does it make the posture/muscles do?
thank you. And what do you think about Gokhale method and J-spine? 🙂
I feel super uncomfortable doing this exercise and i feel like my back muscles are very weak and tired after few breaths. What is my problem and how can i fix it?
Can we have scoliosis exercises please
I feel like I am suffocating when I exhale and my belly is still distended. Like there is air remaining I couldn’t exhale.
What if you belky is blocking your lower back to touch the wall?
I have sent two different online training forms without response. How else can i contact you?
Is there another household object besides a balloon that would work to get a full exhale?
Oops didn’t finish the video lol
The straw worked!
what does it mean if the inhale is quite difficult on exercise 1? Im struggling to inhale when in this position and trying to remain forward
i can also feel a pain in my upper back from trying to do this
Sir this exercise really work please ans me 😓
What type of gym are you running? Is it in S. Dakota?
Does it fix bow legs??
Why aren’t there more therapists around like you?
Question: Can I do these exercises without a wall, maybe on a bed?
I started bikram (hot) yoga two months ago, after having done yoga for a while, and the first step in the sequence is a similar breathing technique and after a month or so my diaphragm ascended. My bra fits differently. This stuff works! Also lookup the bikram breathing step!
Do you have much information to what causes the disordered breathing mechanics in the first place? Seems rather common in people.
@ConorHarris I’d also like to know
It's easy to forget what is relaxed when one is stressed and tired. These exercises, like feldenkrais, help us remember to do this consciously, which reinforces the subconscious to follow and relax.
Long periods sitting down.
Genius
I realized from your videos I am a shallow breather.
I wish I coukd afford this guys classes its like 800 dollars...dude im 16 with a singl mother of 4 what kind of money do you think we got??😭
When you breathe in, is it bad if belly expands?
No, look up how to do belly breathing, you'll learn how to do it even better than you naturally do
👍👍
I can’t get into that position at all
"Will" how about "May." These titles sound like click bait
these are garbage bro just listen to squat university
Please help it feels so tight and painful when I try to breath through my back, my posture is bad, and idk if im doing it correctly. My right side will not let go pain around my right shoulderblade
Don't force yourself. Go to a professional physio therapist instead of trying to find some magic exercise on the internet. You can hurt yourself that way.
Start slow and work your way up to the full exercise. Stop and stay in the position just before you feel pain. And slowly advance over a couple of days. Your body probably isn’t used to this and is accustomed to bad positioning over a very long time. You always wanna go slow if this is the case. It’ll get better and improve over time if you keep at it
Perhaps find a good chiropractor or physical therapist to assess whether it's an injury or your natural muscle tone.
Or try the exercises but go slowly to the point of a little tiny pain. Next day or two, you'll notice you have more range of motion. That's how I healed my damaged finger.
Is youre program for trainers only or will it help me become pqin free