its midnight and i got work to do but i literally just found out that striders in minecarts are at the exact height necessary to pull off said alignment, making piston bolt hoeburners possible. this has to be some sick joke
just saw the video, great work! an idea though, couldn't you make a piston bolt that applies regen + instant health to the player and put the player through the block that is hoing? the extra health makes it not suffocate (though it would be funny that the machine killed you). I dont know if you can hoe a block that you are suffocating in/inside of, but maybe worth a try? cheers
I'm a bit tired, so not sure if this works, but why can't you just move the player faster? Or maybe hoe at an angle? I wonder if there's an angle where you could hoe more than 5 pieces per tick. If there is I bet you could slightly go faster.
@juanma4978 while your idea might work, it wont be fast enough because you will hoe only the block your are inside of, the strategy with the aligning is faster because you get access to rows of dirt instead of 1 at a time
Oh nice you managed to make it faster, congratz on the record! Although you have severely underestimated my pettiness if you think I'm just going to let you keep it :)
Idea to be faster: essentially this same design, only "two" of them side by side so that you are moved across between them, but an entity "boost" in the middle that also triggers a reset of the dirt. This way you almost never slow down and are constantly in front of new dirt.
Any other more "useful" Minecraft contraption still has the sole purpose of entertaining the player. Therefore, I deem this a very useful Minecraft build.
This reminds me of the one guy who played the same mario kart track for 6-12 hours a day, every day for six years, just to eventually pull off this unlikely sequence that would save him 0.3 seconds on the track, making him the world record holder instead of him being tied for first with 30 other ppl. Absolutely pointless, but very fascinating.
I feel like introducing mods just completely shatters the point of doing a challenge like this. Like, with mods the answer is 1 tick, with my custom utility function that depletes durability
Have you heard about the new oneshot strategy used for set seed speedruns? It makes use of the dragon’s knockback to make the player get launched at light speed and because the damage from shooting a bow depends on how fast the arrow is going, if you’re going super fast at the time of the bow getting shot, that also makes the arrow go super fast and powerful enough to kill the ender dragon in one arrow. You see, there is a point in the dragon’s hitbox, the ‘tickle spot’, which is the center of the dragon’s knockback. The amount of knockback you get is depending on how far you are from the tickle spot. The formula is complicated but basically it’s something like the speed the dragon is going divided by the distance from the tickle spot. So if you’re really close the knockback gets exponentially bigger, and if you’re exactly on that point when the dragon starts moving, that is, zero away from the point, you’ll get almost infinite knockback, because anything divided by zero is infinite. So maybe you could try something like this to get you moving, and therefore, using hoe durability, even faster. There’s probably a bunch of reasons why this won’t work but maybe it’s worth looking into. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Just one nerdy correction, when dividing things as the denominator gets closer to zero, it approaches infinity. Anything divided by zero is undefined. If you graph Y=1/X, you can see it forms a clear asymptote. I theorize that one of two things would happen if you were to attempt to perfectly align at the exact center of the dragons knock back. Firstly it may be impossible to be at the exact center because of how hit boxes work meaning you can’t be at that perfect divided by zero point. The other possible thing is that you can be at that exact divided by zero point, and nothing would happen because the game because the game has no direction to add velocity so nothing happens
I feel like you could adapt the moving rows idea to go even faster by staggering the rows so that you hoe along a diagonal, since that will let you reach more blocks within the same distance
My favorite thing about all redstone videos is that redstoners are extremely wholesome and supportive of each other, always shouting out other people builds and videos, in an unending circle of praising. It's something (actually basically the only thing) that I find in common with every redstone creators I watch.
Seems like you are still missing a lot of dirt blocks tho, so it might be worth looking for a mod that has faster clicks or optimize the machine to allow for optimal dirt tillage. Still, I'm interested to see how long it will take until the ultimatum will be met. Very nicely done!
Great video keep it up bro. I was expecting your channel to have well over 100k but when it checked it was only 20k you really deserve more attention 😅😅
if you did avogado's setup but set up pistons to supply like a 2*5 wide area of dirt, you could look a little diagonally so your view intersects more blocks
idk how these work very well, but wouldn't it in theory be better if the player was at a 45 degree angle? especially for avogaado's design. if you could move the dirt fast enough, it would in theory put twice as many dirt blocks in front of the player
I think you could have the player facing diagonally to hoe more, over than being a straight line. As I believe you can hit more than 5 blocks when facing at an angle. So zero-ticking a zig-zag diagonal might be faster? Maybe?
I mean a client side mod for clicking really fast isn't the same as changing the way the game actually functions, but I see the point. technically if you're using client side mods, you could create one that also just aimbots all the dirt reachable in an area, which would be probably at least triple the speed if you use the same method of moving back and forth
I saw a video just 5 minutes after watching yours and avocados seeing that a diamond hoe (or a wooden hoe with efficency 5 haste 2) can instamine moss blocks. I tried doing this with the piston bolt system but didn't quite get it to work. Im no minecraft expert, i downloaded the tweakaroo mod to increase my CPS but maybe you know something i don't. I think using a faster way of transportation with an instamining hoe is a great contender since the facing orientation also doesn't matter. You could go in a straight line and break blocks ontop of you for example.
he says 6 seconds is not that much of an increase when some speedrunners spend months and even years of their lives trying to get even a fraction of that improvement. good stuff.
5:04 About the minecart height alignment: have you tried putting ridable mobs (horses, llamas, pigs...) into the minecart? Maybe worth trying out for the next time someone beats your record...
I don’t get how that guy’s machine could break your record if it relied on mods. You could just as easily add an infinite reach mod and build a gigantic contraption which would technically take your record back, but that would just be unfair.
I used the exact same autoclicker he used in the very first design. There are certain mods that are generally considered to be acceptable as "vanilla". Tweakaroo is one of them.
I'm on Day 7162 in my Minecraft world and right now I'm leveling a Frozen Peaks mountain range to Y level 150 because it's a better project right now than destroying all of Y levels 12, 13, and 14 back at my main base. I'm getting a lot of ice. :)
greatest category ever* also for piston designs it might be possible to make it faster by having the player face diagonal then u can hoe more blocks but idk if theres space for pistons then manual one reminding me of hypixel skyblock lol
I actually tested them and a strider in a mine cart is at the right height, so I think it would be worth a shot. A camel is too high and too wide so would suffocate if the blocks are too close, thus you would lose out on potential blocks/tick anyway, same with horses and donkeys. Interestingly using the ride command a creeper is also the right height XD but I think using commands goes against the spirit of the challenge.
@@MrMoon-hy6pn I love that you tested riding a creeper. The funniest thing is I don't think you could complete the challenge since you have to be in survival. Unless you did no ai.
@@jared_per why thank you :). Also you can actually ride the creeper in survival without it blowing up, its eyeline just needs to be obstructed from the players eyeline somehow like with a slab or trap door so it’s totally possible.
Since we have a hoe burning machine, is it possible to build a machine that makes the player eat as much food as possible to get incredibly high statistics for item use? I have difficulty in getting player saturation down as well as balancing damage sources with healing.
2:27 Doesn't it kinda invalidate the whole thing to use mods? If you're allowed to use mods then anything goes and I can just make a modded block that takes all durability whenever a tool interacts with it to break a netherite hoe in one tick. Sure, it's a very exaggerated example, but you get my point. If we use mods to allow faster right clicks to push the game beyond what's possible per tick in vanilla, then where do we draw the line? As such I don't really think using mods counts. It takes away from the challenge of coming up with technology within the game as you can just outsource any problems you might have to some mods that fix them. At the very least, any actual category obviously should specify what version has to be used and if allowed, which mods have to be used.
Without mods, the fastest design is the first one. Its not allowed by vanilla to click faster than 20 times a second. There are a few mods that are largely considered by the technical community to be "vanilla". Tweakaroo is one of them, and it allows for the category to have any depth at all, which in my opinion is best
@@squibble111 Again, as I said, if we call it a category, then the mods yall consider vanilla need to be specifically listed in the rules of the category. My point was simply that you need to draw a line somewhere, otherwise I can easily break your record by using complete nonsense mods that would be obvious cheating. Hope I got the point across better now.
If we are allowed to, why can't we just spawn a line of dirt in the same place every tick using command block and also if we are allowed to use mods, we may increase our reach distance up to and make it in 1 tick
At what point does this even stop if you can just make setups that require mods? Just mod the game so that dirt uses up twice as much durability and boom, 12.5 seconds. Ik there's a difference between the mods used, since the one in the video simply does what Minecraft technically already allows to happen, but I still think it's kinda weird.
If you’re allowing commands to give you dolphin’s grace, you could also give yourself something that increases your reach distance to till more dirt per row
this is kinda cheating but, if you set tickrate to low, you can hoe in all 4 directions, giving you effectively 4x the speed maybe even more as you may be able to get 15 h/3t instead of 10 h/3t
its midnight and i got work to do but i literally just found out that striders in minecarts are at the exact height necessary to pull off said alignment, making piston bolt hoeburners possible. this has to be some sick joke
I was just about to comment asking if you tried riding a mob in a minecart lol
Rip sleep. Good luck.
just saw the video, great work! an idea though, couldn't you make a piston bolt that applies regen + instant health to the player and put the player through the block that is hoing? the extra health makes it not suffocate (though it would be funny that the machine killed you). I dont know if you can hoe a block that you are suffocating in/inside of, but maybe worth a try? cheers
I'm a bit tired, so not sure if this works, but why can't you just move the player faster? Or maybe hoe at an angle? I wonder if there's an angle where you could hoe more than 5 pieces per tick. If there is I bet you could slightly go faster.
@juanma4978 while your idea might work, it wont be fast enough because you will hoe only the block your are inside of, the strategy with the aligning is faster because you get access to rows of dirt instead of 1 at a time
Oh nice you managed to make it faster, congratz on the record! Although you have severely underestimated my pettiness if you think I'm just going to let you keep it :)
I love the fight talk
This should get pinned
oh no this is a war
Idea to be faster: essentially this same design, only "two" of them side by side so that you are moved across between them, but an entity "boost" in the middle that also triggers a reset of the dirt. This way you almost never slow down and are constantly in front of new dirt.
LOL
Combine this with a crafter to make the most efficient use of diamonds
cactus:
@@eg_Fishlordefficient use, not useless use
I agree
Day 1000 of asking Mojang to bring back the piglin netherite hoe barter.
Second most efficient.
The first one is (obviously) crafting Jukebox to use as fuel.
"It's not that much, just 6 seconds."
Dude, you lowered a sub-1 minute record by 20%, which is pretty huge.
Any other more "useful" Minecraft contraption still has the sole purpose of entertaining the player. Therefore, I deem this a very useful Minecraft build.
This needs to be a speedrun category
i believe it is. just not an official one
all achievements category includes breaking a diamond hoe (or a netherite one. i can't remember)
@@lieusa it used to be breaking a diamond hoe, but now its just making a netherite one
Using fast click is probably against speedrunning rules. This is fine as an official catagory.
I thought the same immediately, breaking netherite hoe %
This reminds me of the one guy who played the same mario kart track for 6-12 hours a day, every day for six years, just to eventually pull off this unlikely sequence that would save him 0.3 seconds on the track, making him the world record holder instead of him being tied for first with 30 other ppl. Absolutely pointless, but very fascinating.
6:00 "I thought of a lot of solutions, a lot of it were explosives related" One of the Squibble quotes ever
Being an efficient engineer is finding that 80% solution quickly that will become a truly great 99% solution one day lol
I feel like introducing mods just completely shatters the point of doing a challenge like this. Like, with mods the answer is 1 tick, with my custom utility function that depletes durability
Agreed
you clearly don't get how client side mods work. hoe durability is stored on the server side, no client side mod you have can change that directly.
Have you heard about the new oneshot strategy used for set seed speedruns?
It makes use of the dragon’s knockback to make the player get launched at light speed and because the damage from shooting a bow depends on how fast the arrow is going, if you’re going super fast at the time of the bow getting shot, that also makes the arrow go super fast and powerful enough to kill the ender dragon in one arrow.
You see, there is a point in the dragon’s hitbox, the ‘tickle spot’, which is the center of the dragon’s knockback. The amount of knockback you get is depending on how far you are from the tickle spot. The formula is complicated but basically it’s something like the speed the dragon is going divided by the distance from the tickle spot. So if you’re really close the knockback gets exponentially bigger, and if you’re exactly on that point when the dragon starts moving, that is, zero away from the point, you’ll get almost infinite knockback, because anything divided by zero is infinite.
So maybe you could try something like this to get you moving, and therefore, using hoe durability, even faster. There’s probably a bunch of reasons why this won’t work but maybe it’s worth looking into. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
you'd also need infinite fps, as the auoclicker clicks once per tick, but that makes it possible to theorically break a netherite hoe in a single tick
@@LeLe-pm2pr yeah. That would basically be the limit
Sick idea
Just one nerdy correction, when dividing things as the denominator gets closer to zero, it approaches infinity. Anything divided by zero is undefined. If you graph Y=1/X, you can see it forms a clear asymptote.
I theorize that one of two things would happen if you were to attempt to perfectly align at the exact center of the dragons knock back. Firstly it may be impossible to be at the exact center because of how hit boxes work meaning you can’t be at that perfect divided by zero point. The other possible thing is that you can be at that exact divided by zero point, and nothing would happen because the game because the game has no direction to add velocity so nothing happens
I feel like you could adapt the moving rows idea to go even faster by staggering the rows so that you hoe along a diagonal, since that will let you reach more blocks within the same distance
My favorite thing about all redstone videos is that redstoners are extremely wholesome and supportive of each other, always shouting out other people builds and videos, in an unending circle of praising.
It's something (actually basically the only thing) that I find in common with every redstone creators I watch.
It’s actually not that bad. I was expecting way worse when you introduced the idea of moving the player
Its crazy how fast squibble became one of my fav UA-camrs
absolutely necessary. Ever since the avogaado video I've been waiting for your return
Can't wait for an avacado response video...
Seems like you are still missing a lot of dirt blocks tho, so it might be worth looking for a mod that has faster clicks or optimize the machine to allow for optimal dirt tillage. Still, I'm interested to see how long it will take until the ultimatum will be met. Very nicely done!
It's fun to see people giving you advices instead of trying them and maybe claim the record
Very complimentary to Avogadro I can appreciate that also this is hilariously Petty and I love ot
cool stuff, i really like seeing ppl nerding out and getting really creative for silly/funny goals. Keep up those vibes, cheers :)
“Hoe-ing speed”. Hopefully that becomes an actual metric for these kinds of machines.
Great video keep it up bro. I was expecting your channel to have well over 100k but when it checked it was only 20k you really deserve more attention 😅😅
skyblock farmers:
*writes down methods furiously*
Would making the path longer also just make it slightly faster so you aren’t wasting time changing direction
It might but making the path longer also decreases your speed. So it would only be effective to a certain point.
Nice work Squibble!
waiting till avogaado beats it again
absolute banger of a video. 10/10
if you did avogado's setup but set up pistons to supply like a 2*5 wide area of dirt, you could look a little diagonally so your view intersects more blocks
this was amazing, i would totally build that!
Thank you for linking @avogaado's video in the description!
I love redstone crazy players
Y'all are insane
idk how these work very well, but wouldn't it in theory be better if the player was at a 45 degree angle? especially for avogaado's design. if you could move the dirt fast enough, it would in theory put twice as many dirt blocks in front of the player
The saga continues
I cried when Squibble said "It's hoing time" and hoed all over the place, truly one of the Minecraft videos of all time
Congrats! Thats amazing!
I think you could have the player facing diagonally to hoe more, over than being a straight line. As I believe you can hit more than 5 blocks when facing at an angle.
So zero-ticking a zig-zag diagonal might be faster? Maybe?
I'm gonna take this record
2:30 my mom walked in and asked me what I was watching, I had no words
I don't know if it matters but you can put a saddled pig in the minecrart piston bolt and sit on the pig.
my problem is that it uses mods. which changes the record type imo. at that point you could just mod in a breaking enchantment/curse.
I mean a client side mod for clicking really fast isn't the same as changing the way the game actually functions, but I see the point. technically if you're using client side mods, you could create one that also just aimbots all the dirt reachable in an area, which would be probably at least triple the speed if you use the same method of moving back and forth
@@elderfrost9892Can you normally make 4 farmland in 1 tick without the mod?
@@cowcat8124 yes, you can achieve faster than 20 clicks a second by physically clicking faster than that which is used quite often in pvp
something that could make these moving ones more consistent is turning off view bobbing!
As far as I know, viewbobbing doesnt actually change what block youre hovering over. Good idea though
I saw a video just 5 minutes after watching yours and avocados seeing that a diamond hoe (or a wooden hoe with efficency 5 haste 2) can instamine moss blocks. I tried doing this with the piston bolt system but didn't quite get it to work. Im no minecraft expert, i downloaded the tweakaroo mod to increase my CPS but maybe you know something i don't. I think using a faster way of transportation with an instamining hoe is a great contender since the facing orientation also doesn't matter. You could go in a straight line and break blocks ontop of you for example.
Its actually only possible to break 20 blocks per second. Unfortunatley, hoeing is going to be the superior method when it comes to wasting durability
he says 6 seconds is not that much of an increase when some speedrunners spend months and even years of their lives trying to get even a fraction of that improvement. good stuff.
Wait until they discover the game rule of block reach.
5:04 About the minecart height alignment: have you tried putting ridable mobs (horses, llamas, pigs...) into the minecart? Maybe worth trying out for the next time someone beats your record...
I don’t get how that guy’s machine could break your record if it relied on mods. You could just as easily add an infinite reach mod and build a gigantic contraption which would technically take your record back, but that would just be unfair.
I used the exact same autoclicker he used in the very first design. There are certain mods that are generally considered to be acceptable as "vanilla". Tweakaroo is one of them.
I'm on Day 7162 in my Minecraft world and right now I'm leveling a Frozen Peaks mountain range to Y level 150 because it's a better project right now than destroying all of Y levels 12, 13, and 14 back at my main base. I'm getting a lot of ice. :)
speed II soul speed III dolphin's grace water+soulsand lines
If you could glitch the player into the first block somehow, you could make the rows 6 long instead of 5 and hoe more dirt.
Rest easy.
So this is how I farm mcmmo repair
Now the next step is to go for diagonal hoe-ing, so that you can hoe more than 5 dirt per tick
It’s funny that somehow, you’ve come up with a method that simply ignores the limitations set by the tick-based engine minecraft runs on.
You accidentally made something possibly useful! >D
The signoff for that video was just like the Lockpicking Lawyer… Is he a fan of you too?
I would love to see a better version! You might try to make it cheaper or smaller if you want to
greatest category ever*
also for piston designs it might be possible to make it faster by having the player face diagonal then u can hoe more blocks but idk if theres space for pistons then
manual one reminding me of hypixel skyblock lol
Impressive
I wonder what makes for the fastest survival speed run. Like on a new world no mods
Google it. There's lots.
A bit of a shot in the dark, but can you get the right height if you are in a pistonbolt riding a camel/strider etc that is riding the minecart?
I actually tested them and a strider in a mine cart is at the right height, so I think it would be worth a shot. A camel is too high and too wide so would suffocate if the blocks are too close, thus you would lose out on potential blocks/tick anyway, same with horses and donkeys. Interestingly using the ride command a creeper is also the right height XD but I think using commands goes against the spirit of the challenge.
@@MrMoon-hy6pn I love that you tested riding a creeper. The funniest thing is I don't think you could complete the challenge since you have to be in survival. Unless you did no ai.
@@jared_per why thank you :). Also you can actually ride the creeper in survival without it blowing up, its eyeline just needs to be obstructed from the players eyeline somehow like with a slab or trap door so it’s totally possible.
@@MrMoon-hy6pn oh wow. I thought that didn't apply to creepers. That's good to know!
damn youre getting hella views here 🔥
Oh hey paradoxx; Yeah this videos doing really well
if you fed it coarse dirt instead of regular dirt I think it could go twice as fast
Yeah but you can’t reset it
Don't put yourself down like that, you didn't cheat or steal a dumb record, innovation is innovation no matter if it's immediately useful or not
Boosting for algorithm
i continue to read your nick as "squishable"...
Since we have a hoe burning machine, is it possible to build a machine that makes the player eat as much food as possible to get incredibly high statistics for item use? I have difficulty in getting player saturation down as well as balancing damage sources with healing.
ender pearl cannon hoebreaker lol
Potatoe war v2?
Who can hoeburn faster
Gigachad
haii squib :33
Please upload a world download this cool asf
“not that much of an increase”?
Do you know how many speedrunners would KILL to save that much time in proportion to category length?
2:27
Doesn't it kinda invalidate the whole thing to use mods? If you're allowed to use mods then anything goes and I can just make a modded block that takes all durability whenever a tool interacts with it to break a netherite hoe in one tick.
Sure, it's a very exaggerated example, but you get my point. If we use mods to allow faster right clicks to push the game beyond what's possible per tick in vanilla, then where do we draw the line?
As such I don't really think using mods counts. It takes away from the challenge of coming up with technology within the game as you can just outsource any problems you might have to some mods that fix them.
At the very least, any actual category obviously should specify what version has to be used and if allowed, which mods have to be used.
Without mods, the fastest design is the first one. Its not allowed by vanilla to click faster than 20 times a second. There are a few mods that are largely considered by the technical community to be "vanilla". Tweakaroo is one of them, and it allows for the category to have any depth at all, which in my opinion is best
@@squibble111
Again, as I said, if we call it a category, then the mods yall consider vanilla need to be specifically listed in the rules of the category.
My point was simply that you need to draw a line somewhere, otherwise I can easily break your record by using complete nonsense mods that would be obvious cheating.
Hope I got the point across better now.
Hey, he cut the video by 8 seconds, that's the result! 9:29
"And now he can finally die in peace"
Why not just extend the dirt for a longer distance to remove all downtime caused by sweeps back and forth.
4:57 "in my really old survival world"
*is not in survival*
If we are allowed to, why can't we just spawn a line of dirt in the same place every tick using command block and also if we are allowed to use mods, we may increase our reach distance up to and make it in 1 tick
why not just mod the hoe to 1 durability?
Yay!
Is there a theoretical limit? Like if we would move the player by a command block in a determined way?
What about soul speed / depth strider?
cubicmetre if he were good
i wonder if you can use that in hypixel skyblock
Couldn't you make it even faster by walking diagonally? You should be able to hit more blocks that way 🤔
At what point does this even stop if you can just make setups that require mods? Just mod the game so that dirt uses up twice as much durability and boom, 12.5 seconds.
Ik there's a difference between the mods used, since the one in the video simply does what Minecraft technically already allows to happen, but I still think it's kinda weird.
He could just install an auto clicker…
there are some mods that are generally accepted as "vanilla" for the tech community. Such are carpet and tweakaroo.
If you’re allowing commands to give you dolphin’s grace, you could also give yourself something that increases your reach distance to till more dirt per row
dolphins grace can be achieved in survival.
@@squibble111 But not for 24 consecutive seconds without putting your head underwater
Couldn’t you make it so that you are inside a block of dirt to give one more block per row?
this is kinda cheating but, if you set tickrate to low, you can hoe in all 4 directions, giving you effectively 4x the speed maybe even more as you may be able to get 15 h/3t instead of 10 h/3t
what is your password btw
Omg haiiii
hai besties
Lol wtf
why not use server side and client side autoclickers at the same time?
why not subtick?)))))
I don't think that would work. I think subticks aren't even observable to the player to hoe
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