I found your channel several months ago and find it to be one of the best. I hope you continue in your work. I am a 73 yo "revert" who is trying very hard to live up to God's expectations. God bless you.
@@beatlecristian Do not be decieved thats what catholics teach , bible says "theres NO OTHER mediator between us and God but Jesus", please let this sink in because it says idolaters wont go to heaven , catholicism also goes againts many stuff thats not good
@@choco-ps7rk Are you really that clueless about Christian Doctrine???? We shall reveal your deception: You say: "..theres NO OTHER mediator between us and God but Jesus..." BUT the Bible says "For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,...." This means you have ADDED your own words and interpretation to the bible. If the bible was so clear then why did you feel the need to CHANGE IT TO SUIT YOUR FALSE IDEAS!!!!! You are such a hypochrit. If you don't know what you are talking about; especially in matters pertaining to God and Salvation; then for the sake of your own soul do not comment or present your misleading and false gospels for the world to see. God forbid you would lead others astray or from the True Faith of Catholicism which could be their and your salvation. You will have much to answer for by preaching such a false message to others and pretending to speak for God.
@@choco-ps7rkyou confuse mediator with consecrate, as well as what an intercessor is, and intercessory prayers. In addition, prayer is not worship. Furthermore, Catholics do Not worship anyone other than God. Veneration, honor and respect is NOT worship nor is it idolatry. You have an egregious misunderstanding of the definition of those words.
I wish my Baptist parents would stop believing in this nonsense. As you pointed out, at no other time, and in no other place, did Christians believe they would be spared the tribulation.
The scriptures are truth and any church group should be in subjection to God's written word not going beyond it for beliefs no matter how pious they sound Acts 17:11 true for today.
LOVE all your videos! But for some reason the closed captioning on this one will omly auto generate vietnames to english, and it is horribly inaccurate. I don't know if this is something u can fix. I am hard of hearing to a degree. But please keep the videos coming!!!
You nailed it. Anything outside of Catholicism is not real Chrsitianity; but only real to the extent it mimics or retains it's Catholic heritage and foundation (including their invented bibles). Keep the Faith.
just believe in Jesus and ull be saved , catholicism started with paganism inviting pagans to their churches , thts why theres Mary , pagans always loved the concept of father son and mother , but its idolatry , because bible says "Theres no mediator between us and God but Jesus", so no saints no Mary, bible says we are all saints when we believe in Jesus theres so much idolatry there , with statues , pictures ,, no marrige for the priests which is also againts the Bible , holy water, infant baptism , all really wrong u need to reasearch it , cuz even popes are wroung, no one can be called Father on earth and be worshipped as the bibke says and yet Papa calls himself Papa and lets ppl bow to him , God hates tht priests cant have power over releasing ur sins , it says to talk to God and say ur sins to him and he will release u , again.. idolatry they added up books in the bible as well, i literally studied tht in my college of art , its true , so thise books arent real inspired by God and it can also be seen by stuff , just like Enoch even the way catholics pray is wrong , because tht written was just an example how to pray, below tht it says " but dont pray repeating stuff like pagans do" theres no cleansing realm after death , if there was then Jesus wouldnt have to die for our sins , it isnt written in the bible no praying to angels also , also written in bible catholicism has wrong stuff , protenstatism has wrong stuff, just follow bible , not religion! , then ull be on the right path bible says test the spirits and dont be decieved in last days!
@@choco-ps7rk That was a whole lot of prot nonsense with only a hint of Christian Truth to make it sound reasonable. Your biblical history, Church history and christian history are so skewed it's no wonder you think in such an unbiblical and unchristian way that you do. ".....catholicism started with paganism inviting pagans to their churches...." No. Catholicism started with Jesus and the Apostles. That is why the Catholic Faith remains the only Apostolic Faith in true sucession from them. Remember it was first to the Jew and then the gentile (pagans). ".....thts why theres Mary , pagans always loved the concept of father son and mother , but its idolatry...." Again such a falsehood. Satan cannot think of anything new so he must mimic and ape the truth to his own flavor; and you are doing the same with your own false christian sect just like your father. Jesus called God His Father, He said He is the Son, and St. Elizabeth (inspired by the Holy Spirit no less) said MAry is the Mother of our Lord. That is what the real bible says. Then you take that and twist it to your non-christian understanding to pervert it to your man-made anti-church. "..."Theres no mediator between us and God but Jesus",..REALLY!!! Show me where it says that in the bible!! The Bible does speak of one mediator that was unique and far above all the others; that being Jesus; but it never claims Jesus is the ONLY mediator. That is your false, misleading, and erroneous prot vomit. When you read the entire passage in context you would understand that instead of cherry picking part of a sentance to suit your false theology. Moses was a mediator who talked God out of destroying all the Isrealites, and there were many more (ie. Abraham for Sodom and Gommorah). But you are so steeped in your non-christian nonsense you don't even realize how you are working for and are in league wth the enemy. WAKE UP!!! You are so confused you don't even realize you don't even have a bible. The book you call the 'word of God' was made up by unauthorized men in the 1600's to suit their own errant ideas and you actually believe them!!!! You have been sooo duped. Let's just look a how duped (stupid) you really are: 1) "... no marrige for the priests which is also againts the Bible...." Really!!!! What did St. Paul have to say about Apostles for the gospel: " I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has his own special gift from God, one of one kind and one of another. To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is well for them to remain single as I do.....The unmarried man is anxious about the affairs of the Lord, how to please the Lord; but the married man is anxious about worldly affairs, how to please his wife, and his interests are divided.....So that he who marries his betrothed[j] does well; and he who refrains from marriage will do better." That is why the CAtholic Faith takes St. Paul's advice to heart and practices it. Celibacy is a gift from God to His ministers and why the CAtholic Faith invites those with that gift to be priests devoted to the Gospel. It's not our fault that in your man-made religion you can't restrain yourselves from lust and don't receive these great Graces from God because you are not of His Church; but of the anti-church. Just because you don't have the right spirit of God and think everyone else must be as depraved as you are just shows what spirit you really follow (and it ain't holy). 2) "...priests cant have power over releasing ur sins...." REALLY!!!! Are you a christian??? Haven't you ever actually read the bible instead of the indoctrinated garbage you've been spewing here!!!!! Let's see what the bible says: "And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.” Are you sooo diabolically confused that you can't see the absolute contradition between what you say and what the bible says!!! The Apostles were given this Authority to forgive sins just as they were given the Authority to do miracles, raise the dead, and other things only God can rightly do. When the Apostles appointed new Apostles this Authority was also passed on with the office they received. This is called Apostolic Succession and exists ONLY in the CAtholic Faith and those it recognizes as such. Your man-made concocted anti-church left the Apostolic Faith long ago and is now a false church working against Jesus. Again .... WAKE UP!!!! 3) "...they added up books in the bible as well, i literally studied tht in my college of art , its true..." An absolute lie/falsehood. There was no established canon of scripture (that means the list of inspired books which rightly belong together to form a bible; since you seem to be having so much trouble comprehending things) before 385AD. Then from about 385AD to about 405AD the whole of Christendom met and eventually formulated the 73 Book Canon which formed the Real Bible. That was the Bible used by ALL CHRISATIANS until the lunatic Luther took it upon himself to start TAKING BOOKS OUT OF THE BIBLE. Again with your demoic dis-orientation, calling good evil and evil good. It was you Prots who REMOVED 7 books from the Bible established for over 1000 years following the likes of Luther, Calvin, and Tyndale who did so based on their own assumed man-authority in their apostasy. You are truly a lost individual wth no clue about christian teachings and practice, or history. You preach an anti-gospel from an anti-church, filled with lies and falsehoods which you received from your father (and we know who that is). Go get a real history book, take a logic course, and stop with your absolute nonsense ideas. Perhaps that might be your start to becoming a real Christian instead of an anti-christian.
@@choco-ps7rk You cast false aspersions and false accusations against The Bride of Christ, the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. The Gospel was spread and taught by the Catholic Church to all nations. It is the Catholic Church whom gifted the world with the complete canon of sacred scripture, 73 books total. It is the Protestants whom discarded a number of books and several chapters from Daniel including having altered many words. Peter, leader of The Church warned: 2 Peter 3:16 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things *hard* *to* *understand* , which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. That is why Christ taught the meaning of Scripture to His Apostles and left us His one true Church on earth which 1 Tim 3:15 says "the Church is the pillar and bulwark of truth". 1 Timothy 3:15 The Church is the pillar and bulwark of truth. NOTE: Bulwark - bulwark means to fortify with a wall or to provide protection; someone or something that protects or defends; wall built for defence. Safeguards That is what the Catholic Church is and does; defends Faith and safeguards the truth. Rom. 10:17 - faith comes by what is “heard” (not just read) which is the Word that is “preached” (not read). This word comes from the oral tradition of the apostles. Those in countries where the Scriptures are not available can still come to faith in Jesus Christ. Luke 24:27 says: “beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them (the Apostles) in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself” Luke 24:45 Then he (Jesus) opened their minds to understand the scriptures. (Only the Apostles minds, not everyone else's)!!! The Apostles then taught and ordained their successors in the Church (One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church). Matthew 18:17 “And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.” Do you obey and listen to the Church? Hebrews 13:17 Obey your leaders and submit to them-for they keep watch over your souls as those who will give an account-so that they may do this with joy, not groaning; for this would be unhelpful for you. Believing is not enough. Demons believe and they are not going to eternal salvation. James 2:19-20, 26 19 You believe that God is one. You do well. Even the demons believe that and tremble. ! 20 But do you want to know, O *foolish* *man* , that faith without works is dead? 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, *so* *faith* *without* *works* *is* *dead* *also* . Matthew 7:21-23, Jesus is recorded as saying: “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ ” So, recall these words and take heed: John 6:53 Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. Ask yourself: Do you really obey Jesus and take heed of His teachings/commands? Hebrews 13:17 17 *Obey* *your* *prelates* (bishops), and be subject to them. For they watch as being to render an account of your souls; that they may do this with joy, and not with grief. For this is not expedient for you. Acts 20:28 Take heed to yourselves, and to the whole flock, wherein the Holy Ghost hath placed you *bishops* , to rule the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. And whom does Jesus abide in and whom abides in Him? John 6:56 Those who *eat* *my* *flesh* and *drink* *my* *blood* *abide* *in* *me* , and *I* *in* *them.* And whom has life in them and will be raised on the Last Day? 53 So Jesus said to them, “Very truly, I tell you, *unless* you *eat* the *flesh* of the Son of Man and *drink* his *blood* , you have *no* *life* in you. 54 Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life, and I will *raise* *them* *up* on the last day; 55 for my flesh is *true* *food* and my blood is *true* *drink.* St. Peter asserts that “baptism ... saves” us (1 Peter 3:21). Mark 16:16 also asserts that “he who *believes* *and* *is* *baptized* *will* *be* *saved* ”. Note it says AND is baptized will be saved. Never says believing alone!! As Paul taught: Philippians 2:12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
@@choco-ps7rk Not 100% in agreement with you but you have pointed out some false beliefs found in the roman Catholic church, and by doing so you have tread upon the toes of those that believe what the roman Catholic church teaches over what they can deduce by reading the scriptures. As to the 7 books that the roman Catholics claim as truth I have found very few roman Catholics have ever read them , seldom quote them , but get real upset when someone tells them they have false doctrines found in them!!
Ultimately, what convinces me that the pre-tribulation rapture is false is that it promises an escape from suffering, whereas Jesus explicitly promised/warned we would suffer for Him.
Believing the rapture does not remove you from salvation it just gives a false hope. A lot of people on the other side of the world are going through tribulation as we look for the easy escape. If it happens , it happens . Heb 12:2 is what we should be focused on not on the fire escape ladder
Another passage that you can use to show that the pre-trib rapture is false is John 17:14-20. Here are the verses, 14 "I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 15 I do not ask that you take them out of the world, but that you keep them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be sanctified in truth. 20 "I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word," Our Lord prayed that His followers would not be taken out of the world(v. 15) and that this applied also to all those who hear the words of the Apostles(that's us). Now, if anyone's prayers are going to answered then it will be Our Lord's. Since that is the case then Christians will not be raptures before the tribulation.
If these folks would study some history, they will find out that it was typical for people from cities to go out away from the city and meet their King when he came back from battle and escort him back to the city in triumph. When Jesus comes back, people will be "caught up" with him, and escort him back to Earth in triumph. Pretty simple.
From a historical understanding many of the early christens believed that Nero was the AntiChrist. If there was any truth to the rapture (which there isn't) it most likely would have been in those early days of the church at the death of the Apostles, and the early disciples. But has that ever come to pass? We don't know, but I don't believe it has yet come to pass. But also no human being knows the day, because neither does the son. Let us keep the faith true,
Nero is a type of the antichrist, but he cannot be _the_ anti Christ, because he died in 68 ad. That's 2 years before the fall of Jerusalem, and before John was even sent to exile.
You are correct that the Greek word "aetos" can be translated as "eagle" but it can also be understood as another large bird "vulture" which is more appropriate in this case. Where the bodies are, so are the vultures to be found. Eagles are raptors and hunt live prey, but vultures are carrion-eaters and can be found circling over dead bodies as in this case.
St. Jerome correctly translated the word as "eagle" as did the authors of the Douay-Rheims bible. "Vultures" is a recent (mis)translation. Same with "carcass": it is properly "body". St. Jerome translated from the orignal manuscripts which no longer exist and have not for hundreds upon hundreds of years. The correct translation of Matthew 24:28 is: 28 Wheresoever the *body* shall be, there shall the *eagles* also be gathered together. (D-R) Quote: "Cast in the future tense, it is a prophecy: "body" refers to: the Eucharistic Body of Christ, which at thr End of Time will not be found just everywhere. For we know that Antichrist will take away the Perpetual Sacrifice (cf. _Daniel_ 8:11-14), and we know that the Great Apostasy will have occurred that was mentioned by St. Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2:3. Also we know that Our Lord asked the Apostles, "But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?" (Luke 18:8), which would imply an answer of _"No"_ and that therefore the Mass would be very scarce. But where the Mass _is_ found, where the Eucharistic Body of Christ _is_ located, "there shall the eagles," the Saints of the Catholic Church, be gathered together, for these people alone understand _spiritually,_ and in the eyes of God they soar above the rest of mankind like eagles with sharp eyesight and a wide perspective of the true meaning of human existence; whereas, most people, interested only in the things of this world, grovel about on the ground, hindered by a spiritual myopia -- if not indeed being totally blind to the true meaning of man's existence. "The eagle, moreover, feeds on living flesh. And what did Our Lord say of His Eucharistic Body: "My flesh is meat indeed" (John 6:56); "I am the living bread which came down from Heaven " (John 6:51); etc. Plus the eagle is a war bird and the sign of a soldier. Now the Catholic Church on earth is the Church Militant, the Church fighting -- as soldiers of Christ." End quote The modern Protestant-laced bibles and modern Catholic bibles (influenced unfortunately by non-catholics) have mistranslated several verses (words) in parts of the sacred canon of the Holy Bible. "Gone is the prophecy! Gone is the poetry! Gone the beautiful symbolism! Gone are the consolation and the hope! And in their place? At best a trite little truism." (The '66 Catholic RSV edition does translate the passage correctly, however all others do not). "St. Jerome's _Latin_ _Vulgate_ translates this verse: "Ubicumque (wherever) fuerit (it will be) corpus (the body) illic (there) congregabuntur (shall be gathered) et (also) aquilae (eagles)." It is pretty hard to mistake _aquilae_ ; it simply means "eagles". The Greek original says: "hópou èán (wheresoever) ĕ (shall be) tò (the) ptõma (body), èkei (there) sunachthésontai (shall be gathered) hoi (the) àetoi (eagles)." The Greek word for *vulture* is όρνιο (órnio). Also γύπας (gýpus) = vulture. Eagle in Greek is just αετός (aetós). Therefore you can rest assured that the master linguist, mother tongue Greek, fluent in Latin, Aramaic and Hebrew, St. Jerome knew with utmost certainty how to correctly translate the oringal languages into the Latin. Amen and God bless P.S. Quote; In the parallel passage in Luke 17: 20-37 Jesus also tells of His second coming. He tells of how “one” will be taken and one will be left. His disciples asked Him, “Where, Lord?” And in verse 37 Jesus replies, “Wherever the body is, there will the eagles be gathered together.” The word used for “body” in the above verse is the same Greek word used in the institution of the Eucharist when Jesus said, “This is my Body.” "It is also interesting to note that the Greek does not state that the eagles will gather, rather it says that the eagles will be gathered. Perhaps this is allusion to John 6:44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draw him, and I will raise him on the last day.” It is God the Father who moves people’s hearts with the gift of faith to accept what Jesus promises in John 6. So, it is God the Father who is doing the gathering of the eagles by blessing them with the gift of faith. Traditionally the Saints are said to have the eagle eye, that is, the eye of faith." Church Fathers on this passage St. John Chrysostom “For wheresoever the carcass is,” says He, “there also will be the eagles,” Matthew 24:28 calling His body a carcass by reason of His death. For unless He had fallen, we should not have risen again. But He calls us eagles, implying that he who draws near to this Body must be on high and have nothing common with the earth, nor wind himself downwards and creep along; but must ever be soaring heavenwards, and look on the Sun of Righteousness, and have the eye of his mind quick-sighted. For eagles, not daws, have a right to this table. Those also shall then meet Him descending from heaven, who now worthily have this privilege, even as they who do so unworthily, shall suffer the extremest torments. Homily 24 on First Corinthians
As someone who grew up in a region were eagles are very common, the bird *love* carrion. Sure, they are powerful hunters, very gifted for killing, but they love a free meal as much as anyone else. In the winter, ravens are most of the road kill, but in the summer there were always eagles around any large road kill. It should also be noted, that while the golden eagle was present in the Levant at this time, the only common culture was the bearded vulture, a bird known for avoiding fresh kills. So if he is talking about a slaughter, it's actually more likely he means an eagle here, as they actually are more likely to eat fresh carrion than the particular culture found in this region.
I grew up as an Independent Fundamental Baptist so I was generally taught once saved always saved and the Pre-Tribulation Rapture(although not all IFBs believe that) then one thing led to another and I started doing my own research and found out that those teachings weren’t true
can you give some reasons OSAS is false? Scripture not conjecture? Pre mid ,or post tribulation rapture may or may not be true but our salvation is secure according to scripture and our destination is assured by what Christ did for us. What I find is all these rapture video's are generally taught to the north American crowd where other countries are experiencing tribulation and do not have that teaching!
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 there’s the fact that Jesus said that “he that endures until the end shall be saved” and in the letter to the Hebrews Chapter 10 it says something to the effect of“ if we continue to sin willingly after coming to the knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice left for our sins” and Paul said to “work out your salvation with fear and trembling “ there are many more but these are the ones I can list off the top of my head. Historically Christians didn’t see salvation as a one-time event but a life long process
Excellent rebuttal of the 1830 rapture misinterpretation but you are still missing the period where "God's will is done on earth as it is in heaven", when all nations shall fall prostrate before Him and He shall rule all the nations from sea to sea with justice. Christ himself taught us to pray for this and it hasn't happened yet. One can hardly, in good conscience, posit that the 2000 years since the incarnation have been the fulfillment of the promised reign of peace where God's will is universally done on earth - watching today's morality revealed on the News, or any history channel would soon dispel that notion. The final end of the world, with Christ's triumphant return in glory, would equally be too late so there is clearly still a middle period, an "Adventus Medius" where all peoples shall by grace see themselves as God sees them, in a prophesied universal Illumination of Conscience or judgement, followed by the separation of the sheep and the goats in the cleansing of the earth where the evil (and lukewarm - now fully informed by the Holy Spirit and therefore spat out without excuse) shall be removed as tares, leaving God's own people to enjoy the promised 1000 year era of peace when swords will be beaten into ploughshares, and the lion will lie down with the lamb, and all creation shall be fulfilled under Christ's Will on earth as in Heaven, prior to the devil being loosed for the final battle, to be vanquished under the heel of the woman, Christ's Mother, Mary, and the return of the King in Glory and fanfare.
I disagree with your assessment, a rapture like event is clearly stated in Revelation 7:1-14, which is after the 4 horseman of the apocalypse, but before the great tribulation reign of the antichrist and mark of the beast system
if Jesus wasnt spared and he said we will suffer for him, do you think you are greater than Jesus that you deserve to be scoped up when shit hits the fan?
I found your channel several months ago and find it to be one of the best. I hope you continue in your work. I am a 73 yo "revert" who is trying very hard to live up to God's expectations. God bless you.
Consecrate yourself to Our Lady and St. Joseph and watch your life change. God love you.
@@beatlecristian Do not be decieved thats what catholics teach , bible says "theres NO OTHER mediator between us and God but Jesus", please let this sink in because it says idolaters wont go to heaven , catholicism also goes againts many stuff thats not good
@@choco-ps7rk Are you really that clueless about Christian Doctrine???? We shall reveal your deception:
You say: "..theres NO OTHER mediator between us and God but Jesus..." BUT the Bible says "For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,...." This means you have ADDED your own words and interpretation to the bible. If the bible was so clear then why did you feel the need to CHANGE IT TO SUIT YOUR FALSE IDEAS!!!!!
You are such a hypochrit. If you don't know what you are talking about; especially in matters pertaining to God and Salvation; then for the sake of your own soul do not comment or present your misleading and false gospels for the world to see. God forbid you would lead others astray or from the True Faith of Catholicism which could be their and your salvation. You will have much to answer for by preaching such a false message to others and pretending to speak for God.
@@choco-ps7rkyou confuse mediator with consecrate, as well as what an intercessor is, and intercessory prayers.
In addition, prayer is not worship.
Furthermore, Catholics do Not worship anyone other than God.
Veneration, honor and respect is NOT worship nor is it idolatry.
You have an egregious misunderstanding of the definition of those words.
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I wish my Baptist parents would stop believing in this nonsense. As you pointed out, at no other time, and in no other place, did Christians believe they would be spared the tribulation.
Baptists typically have a very weak understanding of history
Huge facts. Very annoying tbh and no real grounds
The one holy Catholic apostolic church is the source of truth,, the rest is falsehood 😋
The scriptures are truth and any church group should be in subjection to God's written word not going beyond it for beliefs no matter how pious they sound Acts 17:11 true for today.
It is amazing how many people have rapture dreams.
LOVE all your videos! But for some reason the closed captioning on this one will omly auto generate vietnames to english, and it is horribly inaccurate. I don't know if this is something u can fix. I am hard of hearing to a degree. But please keep the videos coming!!!
Thank you for sharing your clarity of insight. May you be blessed, protected and prosper.
No salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church
No salvation outside of the Lord Jesus Christ.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072no.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072who is the head of the Catholic Church, His body.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072Jesus's one, true Church, the Roman Catholic Church, IS the Body of Christ, and His Bride.
@@wms72 Do you repent and follow the roman Catholic church or do you repent and follow Christ the author and finisher of our faith?
Excellent!!!
You nailed it. Anything outside of Catholicism is not real Chrsitianity; but only real to the extent it mimics or retains it's Catholic heritage and foundation (including their invented bibles).
Keep the Faith.
just believe in Jesus and ull be saved , catholicism started with paganism inviting pagans to their churches , thts why theres Mary , pagans always loved the concept of father son and mother , but its idolatry , because bible says "Theres no mediator between us and God but Jesus", so no saints no Mary, bible says we are all saints when we believe in Jesus
theres so much idolatry there , with statues , pictures ,, no marrige for the priests which is also againts the Bible , holy water, infant baptism , all really wrong
u need to reasearch it , cuz even popes are wroung, no one can be called Father on earth and be worshipped as the bibke says and yet Papa calls himself Papa and lets ppl bow to him , God hates tht
priests cant have power over releasing ur sins , it says to talk to God and say ur sins to him and he will release u , again.. idolatry
they added up books in the bible as well, i literally studied tht in my college of art , its true , so thise books arent real inspired by God and it can also be seen by stuff , just like Enoch
even the way catholics pray is wrong , because tht written was just an example how to pray, below tht it says " but dont pray repeating stuff like pagans do"
theres no cleansing realm after death , if there was then Jesus wouldnt have to die for our sins , it isnt written in the bible
no praying to angels also , also written in bible
catholicism has wrong stuff , protenstatism has wrong stuff, just follow bible , not religion! , then ull be on the right path
bible says test the spirits and dont be decieved in last days!
@@choco-ps7rk That was a whole lot of prot nonsense with only a hint of Christian Truth to make it sound reasonable. Your biblical history, Church history and christian history are so skewed it's no wonder you think in such an unbiblical and unchristian way that you do.
".....catholicism started with paganism inviting pagans to their churches...." No. Catholicism started with Jesus and the Apostles. That is why the Catholic Faith remains the only Apostolic Faith in true sucession from them. Remember it was first to the Jew and then the gentile (pagans).
".....thts why theres Mary , pagans always loved the concept of father son and mother , but its idolatry...." Again such a falsehood. Satan cannot think of anything new so he must mimic and ape the truth to his own flavor; and you are doing the same with your own false christian sect just like your father. Jesus called God His Father, He said He is the Son, and St. Elizabeth (inspired by the Holy Spirit no less) said MAry is the Mother of our Lord. That is what the real bible says. Then you take that and twist it to your non-christian understanding to pervert it to your man-made anti-church.
"..."Theres no mediator between us and God but Jesus",..REALLY!!! Show me where it says that in the bible!! The Bible does speak of one mediator that was unique and far above all the others; that being Jesus; but it never claims Jesus is the ONLY mediator. That is your false, misleading, and erroneous prot vomit. When you read the entire passage in context you would understand that instead of cherry picking part of a sentance to suit your false theology. Moses was a mediator who talked God out of destroying all the Isrealites, and there were many more (ie. Abraham for Sodom and Gommorah). But you are so steeped in your non-christian nonsense you don't even realize how you are working for and are in league wth the enemy. WAKE UP!!!
You are so confused you don't even realize you don't even have a bible. The book you call the 'word of God' was made up by unauthorized men in the 1600's to suit their own errant ideas and you actually believe them!!!! You have been sooo duped. Let's just look a how duped (stupid) you really are:
1) "... no marrige for the priests which is also againts the Bible...." Really!!!! What did St. Paul have to say about Apostles for the gospel: " I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has his own special gift from God, one of one kind and one of another. To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is well for them to remain single as I do.....The unmarried man is anxious about the affairs of the Lord, how to please the Lord; but the married man is anxious about worldly affairs, how to please his wife, and his interests are divided.....So that he who marries his betrothed[j] does well; and he who refrains from marriage will do better." That is why the CAtholic Faith takes St. Paul's advice to heart and practices it. Celibacy is a gift from God to His ministers and why the CAtholic Faith invites those with that gift to be priests devoted to the Gospel. It's not our fault that in your man-made religion you can't restrain yourselves from lust and don't receive these great Graces from God because you are not of His Church; but of the anti-church. Just because you don't have the right spirit of God and think everyone else must be as depraved as you are just shows what spirit you really follow (and it ain't holy).
2) "...priests cant have power over releasing ur sins...." REALLY!!!! Are you a christian??? Haven't you ever actually read the bible instead of the indoctrinated garbage you've been spewing here!!!!! Let's see what the bible says: "And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.” Are you sooo diabolically confused that you can't see the absolute contradition between what you say and what the bible says!!! The Apostles were given this Authority to forgive sins just as they were given the Authority to do miracles, raise the dead, and other things only God can rightly do. When the Apostles appointed new Apostles this Authority was also passed on with the office they received. This is called Apostolic Succession and exists ONLY in the CAtholic Faith and those it recognizes as such. Your man-made concocted anti-church left the Apostolic Faith long ago and is now a false church working against Jesus. Again .... WAKE UP!!!!
3) "...they added up books in the bible as well, i literally studied tht in my college of art , its true..." An absolute lie/falsehood. There was no established canon of scripture (that means the list of inspired books which rightly belong together to form a bible; since you seem to be having so much trouble comprehending things) before 385AD. Then from about 385AD to about 405AD the whole of Christendom met and eventually formulated the 73 Book Canon which formed the Real Bible. That was the Bible used by ALL CHRISATIANS until the lunatic Luther took it upon himself to start TAKING BOOKS OUT OF THE BIBLE. Again with your demoic dis-orientation, calling good evil and evil good. It was you Prots who REMOVED 7 books from the Bible established for over 1000 years following the likes of Luther, Calvin, and Tyndale who did so based on their own assumed man-authority in their apostasy.
You are truly a lost individual wth no clue about christian teachings and practice, or history. You preach an anti-gospel from an anti-church, filled with lies and falsehoods which you received from your father (and we know who that is). Go get a real history book, take a logic course, and stop with your absolute nonsense ideas. Perhaps that might be your start to becoming a real Christian instead of an anti-christian.
@@choco-ps7rk Every single thing you said about Catholicism is WRONG. You say just follow the Bible when the Bible Itself never says any such thing.
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You cast false aspersions and false accusations against The Bride of Christ, the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
The Gospel was spread and taught by the Catholic Church to all nations.
It is the Catholic Church whom gifted the world with the complete canon of sacred scripture, 73 books total. It is the Protestants whom discarded a number of books and several chapters from Daniel including having altered many words.
Peter, leader of The Church warned:
2 Peter 3:16
16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things *hard* *to* *understand* , which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
That is why Christ taught the meaning of Scripture to His Apostles and left us His one true Church on earth which 1 Tim 3:15 says "the Church is the pillar and bulwark of truth".
1 Timothy 3:15
The Church is the pillar and bulwark of truth.
NOTE: Bulwark - bulwark means to fortify with a wall or to provide protection; someone or something that protects or defends; wall built for defence. Safeguards
That is what the Catholic Church is and does; defends Faith and safeguards the truth.
Rom. 10:17 - faith comes by what is “heard” (not just read) which is the Word that is “preached” (not read). This word comes from the oral tradition of the apostles. Those in countries where the Scriptures are not available can still come to faith in Jesus Christ.
Luke 24:27 says: “beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them (the Apostles) in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself”
Luke 24:45 Then he (Jesus) opened their minds to understand the scriptures. (Only the Apostles minds, not everyone else's)!!! The Apostles then taught and ordained their successors in the Church (One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church).
Matthew 18:17 “And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.”
Do you obey and listen to the Church?
Hebrews 13:17 Obey your leaders and submit to them-for they keep watch over your souls as those who will give an account-so that they may do this with joy, not groaning; for this would be unhelpful for you.
Believing is not enough. Demons believe and they are not going to eternal salvation.
James 2:19-20, 26
19 You believe that God is one. You do well. Even the demons believe that and tremble. !
20 But do you want to know, O *foolish* *man* , that faith without works is dead?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, *so* *faith* *without* *works* *is* *dead* *also* .
Matthew 7:21-23, Jesus is recorded as saying:
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ ”
So, recall these words and take heed:
John 6:53
Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you.
Ask yourself: Do you really obey Jesus and take heed of His teachings/commands?
Hebrews 13:17
17 *Obey* *your* *prelates* (bishops), and be subject to them. For they watch as being to render an account of your souls; that they may do this with joy, and not with grief. For this is not expedient for you.
Acts 20:28
Take heed to yourselves, and to the whole flock, wherein the Holy Ghost hath placed you *bishops* , to rule the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
And whom does Jesus abide in and whom abides in Him?
John 6:56
Those who *eat* *my* *flesh* and *drink* *my* *blood* *abide* *in* *me* , and *I* *in* *them.*
And whom has life in them and will be raised on the Last Day?
53 So Jesus said to them, “Very truly, I tell you, *unless* you *eat* the *flesh* of the Son of Man and *drink* his *blood* , you have *no* *life* in you. 54 Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life, and I will *raise* *them* *up* on the last day; 55 for my flesh is *true* *food* and my blood is *true* *drink.*
St. Peter asserts that “baptism ... saves” us (1 Peter 3:21).
Mark 16:16 also asserts that “he who *believes* *and* *is* *baptized* *will* *be* *saved* ”. Note it says AND is baptized will be saved. Never says believing alone!!
As Paul taught:
Philippians 2:12
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
@@choco-ps7rk Not 100% in agreement with you but you have pointed out some false beliefs found in the roman Catholic church, and by doing so you have tread upon the toes of those that believe what the roman Catholic church teaches over what they can deduce by reading the scriptures. As to the 7 books that the roman Catholics claim as truth I have found very few roman Catholics have ever read them , seldom quote them , but get real upset when someone tells them they have false doctrines found in them!!
Ultimately, what convinces me that the pre-tribulation rapture is false is that it promises an escape from suffering, whereas Jesus explicitly promised/warned we would suffer for Him.
Believing the rapture does not remove you from salvation it just gives a false hope. A lot of people on the other side of the world are going through tribulation as we look for the easy escape.
If it happens , it happens . Heb 12:2 is what we should be focused on not on the fire escape ladder
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 That's fair.
Excellent!!! You hit all the relevant scripture verses and put together in a coherent package. Slam dunk! You ever you are?
Another passage that you can use to show that the pre-trib rapture is false is John 17:14-20. Here are the verses,
14 "I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.
15 I do not ask that you take them out of the world, but that you keep them from the evil one.
16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.
17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.
18 As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world.
19 And for their sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be sanctified in truth.
20 "I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word,"
Our Lord prayed that His followers would not be taken out of the world(v. 15) and that this applied also to all those who hear the words of the Apostles(that's us). Now, if anyone's prayers are going to answered then it will be Our Lord's. Since that is the case then Christians will not be raptures before the tribulation.
At the end of the tribulation. Yes. It’s the same as the second coming. Same event
If these folks would study some history, they will find out that it was typical for people from cities to go out away from the city and meet their King when he came back from battle and escort him back to the city in triumph. When Jesus comes back, people will be "caught up" with him, and escort him back to Earth in triumph. Pretty simple.
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From a historical understanding many of the early christens believed that Nero was the AntiChrist. If there was any truth to the rapture (which there isn't) it most likely would have been in those early days of the church at the death of the Apostles, and the early disciples. But has that ever come to pass? We don't know, but I don't believe it has yet come to pass. But also no human being knows the day, because neither does the son. Let us keep the faith true,
Nero is a type of the antichrist, but he cannot be _the_ anti Christ, because he died in 68 ad.
That's 2 years before the fall of Jerusalem, and before John was even sent to exile.
You are correct that the Greek word "aetos" can be translated as "eagle" but it can also be understood as another large bird "vulture" which is more appropriate in this case. Where the bodies are, so are the vultures to be found. Eagles are raptors and hunt live prey, but vultures are carrion-eaters and can be found circling over dead bodies as in this case.
St. Jerome correctly translated the word as "eagle" as did the authors of the Douay-Rheims bible. "Vultures" is a recent (mis)translation. Same with "carcass": it is properly "body".
St. Jerome translated from the orignal manuscripts which no longer exist and have not for hundreds upon hundreds of years.
The correct translation of Matthew 24:28 is:
28 Wheresoever the *body* shall be, there shall the *eagles* also be gathered together. (D-R)
Quote: "Cast in the future tense, it is a prophecy: "body" refers to: the Eucharistic Body of Christ, which at thr End of Time will not be found just everywhere. For we know that Antichrist will take away the Perpetual Sacrifice (cf. _Daniel_ 8:11-14), and we know that the Great Apostasy will have occurred that was mentioned by St. Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2:3. Also we know that Our Lord asked the Apostles, "But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?" (Luke 18:8), which would imply an answer of _"No"_ and that therefore the Mass would be very scarce. But where the Mass _is_ found, where the Eucharistic Body of Christ _is_ located, "there shall the eagles," the Saints of the Catholic Church, be gathered together, for these people alone understand _spiritually,_ and in the eyes of God they soar above the rest of mankind like eagles with sharp eyesight and a wide perspective of the true meaning of human existence; whereas, most people, interested only in the things of this world, grovel about on the ground, hindered by a spiritual myopia -- if not indeed being totally blind to the true meaning of man's existence.
"The eagle, moreover, feeds on living flesh. And what did Our Lord say of His Eucharistic Body: "My flesh is meat indeed" (John 6:56); "I am the living bread which came down from Heaven " (John 6:51); etc. Plus the eagle is a war bird and the sign of a soldier. Now the Catholic Church on earth is the Church Militant, the Church fighting -- as soldiers of Christ." End quote
The modern Protestant-laced bibles and modern Catholic bibles (influenced unfortunately by non-catholics) have mistranslated several verses (words) in parts of the sacred canon of the Holy Bible.
"Gone is the prophecy! Gone is the poetry! Gone the beautiful symbolism! Gone are the consolation and the hope! And in their place? At best a trite little truism." (The '66 Catholic RSV edition does translate the passage correctly, however all others do not).
"St. Jerome's _Latin_ _Vulgate_ translates this verse: "Ubicumque (wherever) fuerit (it will be) corpus (the body) illic (there) congregabuntur (shall be gathered) et (also) aquilae (eagles)." It is pretty hard to mistake _aquilae_ ; it simply means "eagles". The Greek original says: "hópou èán (wheresoever) ĕ (shall be) tò (the) ptõma (body), èkei (there) sunachthésontai (shall be gathered) hoi (the) àetoi (eagles)."
The Greek word for *vulture* is
όρνιο (órnio). Also γύπας (gýpus) = vulture.
Eagle in Greek is just αετός (aetós).
Therefore you can rest assured that the master linguist, mother tongue Greek, fluent in Latin, Aramaic and Hebrew, St. Jerome knew with utmost certainty how to correctly translate the oringal languages into the Latin.
Amen and God bless
P.S.
Quote; In the parallel passage in Luke 17: 20-37 Jesus also tells of His second coming. He tells of how “one” will be taken and one will be left. His disciples asked Him, “Where, Lord?” And in verse 37 Jesus replies, “Wherever the body is, there will the eagles be gathered together.”
The word used for “body” in the above verse is the same Greek word used in the institution of the Eucharist when Jesus said, “This is my Body.”
"It is also interesting to note that the Greek does not state that the eagles will gather, rather it says that the eagles will be gathered. Perhaps this is allusion to John 6:44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draw him, and I will raise him on the last day.”
It is God the Father who moves people’s hearts with the gift of faith to accept what Jesus promises in John 6. So, it is God the Father who is doing the gathering of the eagles by blessing them with the gift of faith.
Traditionally the Saints are said to have the eagle eye, that is, the eye of faith."
Church Fathers on this passage
St. John Chrysostom
“For wheresoever the carcass is,” says He, “there also will be the eagles,” Matthew 24:28 calling His body a carcass by reason of His death. For unless He had fallen, we should not have risen again. But He calls us eagles, implying that he who draws near to this Body must be on high and have nothing common with the earth, nor wind himself downwards and creep along; but must ever be soaring heavenwards, and look on the Sun of Righteousness, and have the eye of his mind quick-sighted. For eagles, not daws, have a right to this table. Those also shall then meet Him descending from heaven, who now worthily have this privilege, even as they who do so unworthily, shall suffer the extremest torments.
Homily 24 on First Corinthians
As someone who grew up in a region were eagles are very common, the bird *love* carrion. Sure, they are powerful hunters, very gifted for killing, but they love a free meal as much as anyone else.
In the winter, ravens are most of the road kill, but in the summer there were always eagles around any large road kill.
It should also be noted, that while the golden eagle was present in the Levant at this time, the only common culture was the bearded vulture, a bird known for avoiding fresh kills.
So if he is talking about a slaughter, it's actually more likely he means an eagle here, as they actually are more likely to eat fresh carrion than the particular culture found in this region.
I grew up as an Independent Fundamental Baptist so I was generally taught once saved always saved and the Pre-Tribulation Rapture(although not all IFBs believe that) then one thing led to another and I started doing my own research and found out that those teachings weren’t true
can you give some reasons OSAS is false? Scripture not conjecture?
Pre mid ,or post tribulation rapture may or may not be true but our salvation is secure according to scripture and our destination is assured by what Christ did for us. What I find is all these rapture video's are generally taught to the north American crowd where other countries are experiencing tribulation and do not have that teaching!
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 there’s the fact that Jesus said that “he that endures until the end shall be saved” and in the letter to the Hebrews Chapter 10 it says something to the effect of“ if we continue to sin willingly after coming to the knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice left for our sins” and Paul said to “work out your salvation with fear and trembling “ there are many more but these are the ones I can list off the top of my head. Historically Christians didn’t see salvation as a one-time event but a life long process
Please please pleeeease stop saying revelationS
Sorry, old habits
@@imisschristendom5293 lol
I'm also saying revelationS not knowing LOL!
I just said it when I read it 🙊
Apocalypse of John
Excellent rebuttal of the 1830 rapture misinterpretation but you are still missing the period where "God's will is done on earth as it is in heaven", when all nations shall fall prostrate before Him and He shall rule all the nations from sea to sea with justice. Christ himself taught us to pray for this and it hasn't happened yet. One can hardly, in good conscience, posit that the 2000 years since the incarnation have been the fulfillment of the promised reign of peace where God's will is universally done on earth - watching today's morality revealed on the News, or any history channel would soon dispel that notion.
The final end of the world, with Christ's triumphant return in glory, would equally be too late so there is clearly still a middle period, an "Adventus Medius" where all peoples shall by grace see themselves as God sees them, in a prophesied universal Illumination of Conscience or judgement, followed by the separation of the sheep and the goats in the cleansing of the earth where the evil (and lukewarm - now fully informed by the Holy Spirit and therefore spat out without excuse) shall be removed as tares, leaving God's own people to enjoy the promised 1000 year era of peace when swords will be beaten into ploughshares, and the lion will lie down with the lamb, and all creation shall be fulfilled under Christ's Will on earth as in Heaven, prior to the devil being loosed for the final battle, to be vanquished under the heel of the woman, Christ's Mother, Mary, and the return of the King in Glory and fanfare.
THE WARNING??
1 Thessalonians 4:17 and the word "rapture" doesn't say anything about when
YUP
I disagree with your assessment, a rapture like event is clearly stated in Revelation 7:1-14, which is after the 4 horseman of the apocalypse, but before the great tribulation reign of the antichrist and mark of the beast system
if Jesus wasnt spared and he said we will suffer for him, do you think you are greater than Jesus that you deserve to be scoped up when shit hits the fan?