M57N2 Timing Chain Replacement BMW E60 LCI
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2019
- Detailed video , how to change all the timing chains in BMW M57 :
• BMW M47 M57 Timing Cha...
In this video I'm going to show , how to change the timing chain on the camshafts in this M57N2 ( M57D30TÜ2 / M57D30TÜTOP ) engine , which came out of an BMW E60 LCI ( facelift ) . This engine can be found in many other BMW chassis , like E90 E70 E66 E71 E65 and so on .
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Thnak you for the well made & informative video, mate! Keep 'em comin' !
Thanks for the help, your video was helpfull when my chain snapped right after newyears. I was lucky my cams didnt get bend. 306000km, no odometer rollback! cause was bad 2 bad injectors leaking and diluting the engine oil, eventhogh i change oil every 7500km to keep the engine clean
Много добри видеа , много интересно и детаилно обяснение , браво ! Радвам се че има такъв човек:)
thanks for this really good video, and well explained, i wish you all the best
You are very knowledgeable about m57.
What should you be checking when buying a used car with this engine. That would be a great video title and with many views!
Regarding the camshaft markings “E” and “A” - in German, intake is Einlass, and exhaust is Auspuff.
A stands for Auslaß (outlet)
Oow thanks for the clarity, i thought A can be for "Air" and E for "Exhaust"
Your video's are well informative with all the details. Thank you so much. I'm from Sri Lanka & here no one is ready to accept to repairs in old BMWs . People over their lucky to have one like you. Can you please make a video on overhaul & rebuild m51 diesel engine.
I really wished you lived in the Uk as l have an E91 325d with the M57 tu2 engine with alloy block. It’s running beautifully and would love to get the chains etc replaced as it has covered 207,000 miles. It’s quiet at the moment and want this car to be my forever car as lm now 64 yrs old.
... excellent .... good to know these differences as this is the engine I have .... Thank you ...
Hi. You dont need to remove camshaft to screw last bolt for cover. Take out one plastic chain guide from top and then unscrew 3 little bolts for camshaft sprocket, after that play with sprocket and take it out, after that you have space for that top bolt. Easy. Just need to follow steps.
Many thanks for your video and well explained, All the best
Your videos be on point ,keep it up 👏👏
Good work guys,keep up.
Great video. BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO.
Thanks for nice good tutorials coz ihave bmw330d e46 serie 3 maybe its m57.. May be someday i will change my timing change watching this video.. Thank you very much..
E46 is using M57 too , so hopefully this will be helpful for you :)
More videos please 👌 im doing my m57 now... You the best!!!
There is more detailed videos in the description below the video
@@crank3646 yeah but for future. ..
Very informative!
Good Job. 💪 Thanks
Do you not change the small 3rd chain at the bottom aswell? Also, Fantastic video man, keep them coming.
Hello i'm going to be doing this job on my car, as the camshafts have to come out, is there a specific procedure to remove the chains or can you simply just release the tension and take the chains off and sprockets etc. thanks.
Hello. Do you have to replace every bolt with new ones?
When would I know I have to change the chains? What should I be aware of and is there a brand here in BG that you would recommend?
Can i replace a 306d3 alu Block with a cast Iron 306d2? Is the block identical?
What happend if you tinghten the camshaft gear before tensioner?
Very good video thanks
Is m57 timing chain front of car so easy to take out and change? How many hrs labour to do this?
@CRANK
M57 X5 E70 2008 ITS THE SAME ??
I have an e60 530d 235hp lci with 300.000kms,its normal to break chains on this? The difference from m57 to m57tu2 are so big in terms of reliabilty ? I know its Aluminium instead iron but that makes alot of different in the mileage it can last? Thank you alot,good video
Hello,when the crankshaft is fixed,is the piston of zylinder 1 on its maximum top position or is it already a little bot on the way down?
Thank you for your help?
merhaba 2006 x5 3.0d m57 otoyolda fuel injeksion sitem yazdi stop etti yakit bitti ekledim ama calismadi elektirikli pompalar motora yakiti yolluyor enjektoru gevsettim sira bir olan mazot gelmiyor havami yapti bilgi lutfen araba calismiyor
Thank for this great information sir Namaste..
great video thanks :)
On how many kilometers you need to change it?
Hi.. Great video....
But when you release the timing chain tensioner you shoulfd had the 2 camshaft bolts hand tighten....in order to be able to proper tighten the chain without any tension between crankshaft and camshafts.....
Then you torq the 2 bolts on camshaft for 14 or 16 or monre NM... Then you unlock the crank/camshafts.... Then you gonna rotate the engine untill you gonna be able to fit the 3rd camshaft bolt.... and then torq this one as well like others 2......(14/16/or more NM)
And then if u gonna rotate the engine the camshaft and crankshaft are gonna be sync perfect whiteout any unnecessarily tension.
Ps
Probably that why the pin didn't match with camshaft locking tool when you rotate theengine.
You have all my respect!
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"E" on the camshaft means "einlass" in german "A" means "auslass" in german!
nice video boss.
How many hrs you charge customer if its not broken. Just on routine maintenance?
Hi what is oil pump sprocket bolt torque spec?
nice
keep going
Thank you very much for the great videos. I will change the timing chain on my E61 525d this year. 2 Questions that i have
1. Which oil do you use for camshaft? The normal engine Oil 5w40 or is this some special Oil
2. Do you also have to separate the wheel from the fuelpump/injektorpump which this special Tool before removing the Timing chain Cover like you showed in the video of the older version of this motor?
Thank you
If you going to start the engine after day or two , after removal of the camshafts , you can use even a normal engine oil 5W40 , but if the engine is going to sit longer for assembly , it is good idea to use assembly lube .
You can separate the fuel pump gear after the removal of the timing chain cover . It doesn't make any difference .
Crank, как да поставим 1и6 бутало /P.M.S/в най-висока точка без да сваляме двигателя
Автоматична скоростна кутия(GS,и също така без да сваляме клапанната кутия, (как да разбере че двигателя е зафиксиран)просто с фиксатора на определеното място.
Колелата блокират ли се ?или е нужно само ДЪНФЕРНАТА ШАЙБА да е неподвижна
Има ли друг варянъ да превъртим двигателя “N” D” при автоматик въртяйки колелата
Отлична работа Кранк! Горе долу на 45с разпределителните валове, жалко,че го няма цялото видео ОТ-ДО
Цена въпросната работа как варира Благодаря.
В описанието на видеото го има цялото :) Цена за смяна на веригите ли ? Части + труд някъде отива към 2000 лв , в зависимост от вида на частите , маслото и т.н.
Thank you for the detailed and well explained video👍👍. Do i need to remove the oilsump to do this job? And is it possible to do it with the engine in the car?
yes its possible to do it in the car. He has another video on that. He removed the oilsump in that video but i'de like to know if its at all possible to do it with the oilsump on too. It would be really hard to remove that oil pump sprocket bolt and if you lost it inside the oilsump you would have a hard time fishing it out. It may still be possible with lots of patience.
omg i need this for next week end, did not notice the date ! super well explained !
Thank a lot, i was wondering how to remove the camshaft and the front sprocket !
Just one question with the lower timing case on, how to retract the upper chain tensionner in order to place the pin ? Do i need to place a screwdriver like you did ? With the chain in positiion i don't know if it's possible
Thank you
Thanks for watching Micks !
Yes it is possible . I'm doing it with everything installed in place . You need to do it , exactly like I did in the video .
@@crank3646 I've ordered and received everything, but today i tried to pin the crankshaft (tool for M47 engine) on my M57 e60lci but it seems too short, i have automatic gearbox 6HP, what is the tool reference for TDC on crankshaft ? Thanks !
@@MickNavarro Because of this reason I have done several locking pins , but cant tell you for sure which is the right one for you
@@crank3646 i ordered and tried with the tool 116080 and it fits M57N2 with 6HP gearbox !
Hi love the videos do you have a video on removing the cylinder head on this engine?
I have about the installation. Which is pretty much the same process in reverse order. Watch my newer videos
Проблем ли е ако не се ползват оригинални части от бмв. За е90 231 коня става въпрос
Can you do mine?
Hi, on this car, if you do not remove the oil pan to perform the job, will the oil overflow from the gap where the timing chain cover was ?
answer : no :)
@CRANK - The 3 bolts on the crankshaft gear on the LCI model, I guess you loose or take out before you lock the flywheel, right? or only the one covered by the engine housing and then the 2 others when the engine is locked? What is your recommended procedure here? Your videos are awesome !
Hm , you mean the crankshaft damper pulley ? If i believe they were 4 bolts . It doesn't matter when you going to remove them . The pulley does not affect , the engine timing at all . It is going to be easier when the serpantine belts are installed , if you don't have some impact gun to undo them .
@@crank3646 Hi again, no not the pulley.... on the pre-LCI you can release both gears and take off the chain, but on the LCI there is not enough space to take the gear out, so you need to release the gear from the crankshaft, take off the crankshafts, and then take off the gear connected to the crankshaft.... are there not 3 bolts holding the gear to the crankshaft.... I wonder how to take it off, without having to lock and unlock the engine with the pin, several times (need to rotate engine to loosen these bolts, I guess) ??
@@xhpwicca723 Probably you mean CAMshaft not CRANKshaft . It is good idea to undo the bolt on the bottom part of the gear and after that to lock the engine for the 2 other bolts
@@crank3646 You are right, and thank you for comment.... very good videos you are making !
Is the camshaft lock tool is same as N47 N57 engines?
No it is different
Браво
awesome videos thanks! i have am in New Zealand and a have an E70 3.0SD with a broken timing chain and going to need to do this exact job. A question, the local dealer said they would not replace the timing gears when installing new chains... and i see that you have not either. given the gears have done 170,000 kms, they must have some wear, it would seem to be prudent to replace them? thanks
Depends on the client. If it was my car, I was going to change them. Actually after week or two I'm going to release a video of complete rebuild of M57N2, after timing chain failure. There I'm replacing everything, that should be replaced after a failure like that.
@@crank3646 thank you! looking forward to seeing the video!
@@crank3646 another question, have had my car at the local dealer but now have it home to do this job due to cost. I have just removed the front timing cover and discovered the lower timing chain, and the oil pump chain are both broken! I don't have the sump off yet but the oil pump sprocket seems to be locked solid... should it be? Thanks in advance..
@@lyntonrobinson2572 No it should be rotating freely. Open up your pump and check what is happening. It is good idea to check your main and conrod bearings in this situation.
Doesn’t timing chain failure lead to catostrophic engine failure so how come we can replace when it snaps??
Is m57n 231 a good engine? I heared that the 218 hp is much more reliable.
wrong its depend on service but alweis the best ist lci after 2007.03 with 235hp then is 2005-2007 231hp and then is 2002-2005 218hp
Hello man, I believe you are the best expert on M57 on UA-cam. Please tell me if it's normal for timing chain to snap on e60 173kw at 200km? I'm looking to buy this car and owner admitted the chain snapped so I suspected false mileage. Thanks for your time
Yes it is not impossible. If there were some poor servicing and more aggressive driving it is not impossible
My snaped at 148.000
Great Videos, thanks you very much.
Question: if I just change the timing chain preventively, do I need to take out the exhaust camshaft as well? Or can I just remove the Inlet camshaft to change the camshaft sprocket?
Thanks! Actually you can do it, without removing either camshaft, it turns out that there is enough room without removing them.
@@crank3646 Great. Thank you for the quick reply. I am also thinking about changing the oil pump sprocket but saw that you don’t recommend to do it. Any issue if I change the sprocket and screw with the right torque spec?
@@BenjaminB87 Don't recommend. But if you want to risk it you are free to try
@@crank3646 thanks. I better don’t risk it then 😅 really appreciated
@@crank3646 sorry for another question. Would you change the Crank and high pressure pump gear when replacing preventatively? Or chains are enough?
what was the procedure for torquing the head to the block?
Torque to 80 Nm , after that slacken 180 degrees . Torque to 50 Nm + 90 ° + 90 °
Crank thank you very much fam
Hi. How much torque do the 3 screws "m6" need from the chain tensioner.
10 Nm
@@crank3646 Thanks a lot :)
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torque spec for the cam bearing caps is incorrect, 10nm is too much i've already snapped 2 8nm is more suitable.
hope nobody does stuff to theyr engine like this guy.
Why? Great write up....
@aur2mas checked YOUR channel but it says "This channel doesn't have any content" ... please do a video and show us what you think wasn't done right here in this one. thx.
I have changed timing chains and cylinder head on my M57n2. When engine is cold it really cranks for a very long time. I get a code which says 3ec0 camshaft sensor but it starts. I am beginning to suspect that the timing is a little bit off. I used a timing tool for the M57N1 engine, but they should be similar dont they? I have another sensor I can change to to see if it is that. Anyone else?
Има ли някакви признаци за тая верига или всичко си зависи от поддръжка и как е карана колата ? М57 нужно ли е да се сваля като Н57 ?
При М57 обикновено няма , директно се къса . При Н47 обикновено има металически шумове , преди да предаде богу дух . Не е необходимо да се вади мотора за да се смени веригата .
what happened with this engine? why did you have to replace the timing? also what part brands did you use for timing?
Broken timing chain , which led to full engine rebuild . In this engine , because the owner is little bit scared now , we decided to use OEM timing chains
@@crank3646 how can that happen? i haven't heard of any m57n2 with broken timing chains. what was the reason the timing chain broke? do you have any idea how many kilometers did the car have?
@@ionx1198 As most of the time , while cruising on the highway . Can't tell the reason for sure , probably bad quality oil + long service intervals . Actually right now I have a colleague , that is working on the same engine with the same scenario , but it is in E90 . So it is not so rarely
M57n is good engine, M57N2 i know various cases of broken chains, without any any strange sound before broke.
Vlad ZSX The lower timing chain on my X3 3.0SD broke at 115K miles (184K KM) despite oil and filter changes every 9000 miles (14.4K KM)
Can you do this with engine in car?
Yes , most of the time , I'm doing it , while the engine is in the car
@@crank3646 What mileage is recommended?
Danke
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При мен се случи нещо странно, поне за мен. Счупи кобилици на втори цилиндър на изпускателните клапани и почна да гърми и строши всмукателя. Превъртели са и гърбиците на разпределителния вал. Веригата е здрава, оптегачите също. Защепихме я с инструмент и центровката е мръднала с много малко. Не знам дали има общо но колата е след софтуер на мотор и скорости и сложих кулер и спортен филтър. Не знам дали да сменя веригата...
hallo my friend where you live?
Bulgaria , Burgas
Why have you said new bolts for the cam caps? Bmw do not say anything about replace them, they have not angular torque no point on replace them.
BMW doesn't say anything about changing oil on their automatic gearboxes, but we still change it right. The bolts are really gentle, so they stretch really easy.
@@crank3646 they are not stretch bolts, and is just 8nm, is impossible to stretch bolt like that.
Мотор еле прокручивается 🤔
Може и без демонтаж на разпределителните валове. Избива се зъбното колело на помпата за високо налягане.
Бая си чупих пръстите по-този начин , ама пак не успях . Ще пробвам другия път пак , щом твърдиш че е възможно
Davai davai
wtf is m57n2? i only know m57d29(135kw), m57tu(150kw) and m57tu2(170kw), so wth is m57n2? since n57 is whole different engine
M57N2 is the newer generation of M57 engines . The biggest difference is that M57N2 has aluminium cylinder block while M57 has cast iron one
@@crank3646 and it's better than cast iron ? Witch one you recomand ?
@@TheRazvy1990 Cast iron block is always better for reliability. Aluminium is just more lighter
@@crank3646 but i guess that the aluminium block have iron slaves inside ?!
@@TheRazvy1990 Yes they do, which doesn't mean that the other structure doesn't matter
E means Einlass (intake)
A means Auslass (exhaust)
Camshaft meaning
German is not easy 😂
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