Modern vs. Vintage Silverburst Gibson Les Paul Customs | Which Should You Buy?

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  • @luckytalons2945
    @luckytalons2945 6 років тому +14

    Inherited a '79 Silverburst from my Grandpa when he passed away a few years ago. He bought it used and played it for many years in his band. Someone wired in a phase switch, but as I recall he did not care for the out of phase tone. It is well worn on both sides of the neck and has belt buckle rash but I love it. It has a dark yet somehow clear tone. Any time I have ever doubted its capabilities, I think of how my mentor could make the most beautiful music with it, and remember that music is more about the player than the instrument. It is "player grade", but is priceless to me!

  • @SofiaisSunshine
    @SofiaisSunshine 3 роки тому +6

    That modern Silverburst you sold for $2100 are now going for $5000+
    I would love to have one for that price.

  • @Trog
    @Trog  7 років тому +10

    Thank you for the feedback everyone! I have many topics that I'd like to cover in the future - hopefully once a week on Saturdays. If you have any topics you'd like covered, feel free to let me know!

  • @GeorgeVGuitars
    @GeorgeVGuitars 7 років тому +6

    What you did is not a mistake. This is an important part of appreciating old used models. I also got my silverburst new, and shortly after I got an older year model. You cannot tell the difference by a video or a photo, you have to feel it. Also, there is nothing like opening up an unplayed Custom LP, so worth the money. But I am buying old from now on. :>

  • @johnnybravo2.0
    @johnnybravo2.0 7 років тому +47

    Adam jones guitar

    • @tempo1889
      @tempo1889 7 років тому +3

      Cat That likes music yeah that's pretty much how I found out about a silverburst.

    • @Dimethyltryme
      @Dimethyltryme 6 років тому +2

      Two legends

  • @Bonedadyo
    @Bonedadyo 7 років тому +7

    Great video.👍
    The 70’s, Norlin era LP’s were certainly a hit or miss as far as quality goes. Sometimes you’ll find yourself choosing between cosmetics and tone.
    About 11 years ago I purchased a 78 LP Custom Cherryburst that was definitely one of the ugliest Gibson’s you could ever see. QC was nonexistent in its case. A 3 piece maple cap that was not only mismatched (one flame, two plain) but they also weren’t equally sized. It also had a walnut back instead of mahogany. It weighed a TON! Finish was worn all over but at least it never had any break or repairs. The ebony FB also had splits in it. In spite of all this, it was absolutely the best sounding LP I’ve ever had and I’ve owned quite a few over the years. I sold it in order to buy another just like it (same year, same model) but was in perfect cosmetic condition. Both of them were completely stock and unmodified. It didn’t even come close in tone.
    I still regret selling that guitar.

  • @vibrevtonez2421
    @vibrevtonez2421 4 роки тому +5

    These are in high demand now. The only vintage one I can find is listed on reverb for $9000

  • @gt5411e
    @gt5411e 7 років тому +28

    These videos make me sick. I bought a 78 silver burst brand new in 78 for about 1000.00. Sold it for 500 in 83. Hindsight!!

    • @thomasreay4713
      @thomasreay4713 6 років тому +1

      glenn wilson thats nothin i traded a 74 gibson flying v for a kramer pacer in 85 as well as a 68 olimpic white strat for another kramer at my local music store the power of van halen back in those days

    • @groblezep5548
      @groblezep5548 6 років тому +15

      i sold a pokemon card for 50 cents few days later i realised i could have sold it for 2 dollars

    • @americanmetalhead3954
      @americanmetalhead3954 6 років тому +1

      grobleZEP Lmao

    • @jozef667
      @jozef667 4 роки тому +6

      @@groblezep5548 Reminds me of that time I bought a Pokemon cards for 50 cent and sold it later for 2 dollars.

    • @jrockofages5413
      @jrockofages5413 4 роки тому

      Bought a 79 custom in 1980 for $610. I didn't even understand what I was buying. I will never sell it. It will go to a grandson one day...not yet, though! 😉

  • @jozef667
    @jozef667 4 роки тому +2

    You can tell a lot from the aging of a guitar about the smoking customs in the 70ies.

  • @1967incPhotography
    @1967incPhotography 4 роки тому +2

    My very first guitar was a 1979 Sliverburst Les Paul Custom that I bought new. Its white binding turned a cream color and the silver paint turned bronze. Only some of these turned green like the one in your video. I have a modern Silverburst now and wonder what it will look like in another 10 or 20 years (hopefully not green)!

  • @zakmichael
    @zakmichael 7 років тому +3

    I've owned 2 mint condition vintage Silverbursts. Both still pure silver, no greening at all. An 80' and an 86'. They were both in fantastic condition but they were Norlins and were not great sounding compared to Historic LPs. The 86 had a slight neck twist and needed some work. I sold both of them off and made money and put it towards better guitars.

    • @Trog
      @Trog  7 років тому +5

      Perhaps there was a reason they were 'clean.' Not every guitar from a certain era is bad - I've only ran into a few in the ~500 or so Norlins that I've owned and put for sale in my shop that weren't great. On the rare occasion of a bad player, it just needed some light work and a set-up to get back to excellent playing shape. I'd suggest you give this era another go with a more worn example that's proven itself over the years and I bet your opinion would change on these.
      If you're into 50s specs, then no, I wouldn't suggest the Norlin era - but if you can come to love and accept the quirkiness of multipiece maple necks and tops, pancake bodies (in the early years) and all the experimental and limited edition models - then the Norlin era of Gibson (1969-1985) will feel just like home. It's not for everyone - but its definitely for me!
      Thanks for watching

  • @sevensongsful
    @sevensongsful 6 років тому +1

    Love the aged finish there--had a '79 custom. Wouldn't an 11 lb guitar today, but I did love it.

  • @RockBassTv
    @RockBassTv 7 років тому +1

    Just stating the obvious man, I buy all my gear used since 2008 saved thousands of bucks & got some really sweet basses/guitars in my collection: '75 & '77 P-bass '74 Ripper '94 & '95 Stingray '95 LP & SG Standard... the list goes on... Great Video! Nothing beats vintage and used!

    • @Trog
      @Trog  7 років тому +5

      Thats for sure! This video turned too much into a Used vs. New debate than I wanted it too - I just wanted to help people make a decision on which silver burst to buy.. I plan on making a true Used vs New video in the future. Used is definitely the way to go.

  • @JohnBarrow1961
    @JohnBarrow1961 7 років тому +15

    Too clean to play. That's on the owner. In my world, there's no such thing. I buy 'em to play 'em, regardless of the price. I've never understood that thinking.

    • @AdoreYouInAshXI
      @AdoreYouInAshXI 7 років тому +2

      You're not very smart if you can't even understand that line of thinking. I get that you may not feel that way, but if I buy a $3500 2017 Les Paul (which I wouldn't pay even half that for a 2017 Les Paul) I would be much more likely to find myself being extremely careful with it, wanting to wipe it down after each use, wanting to make sure I didn't nick or ding it on anything... because it's in immaculate condition with a beautiful shine to it, not a single, tiny defect anywhere. Whereas if I paid even more money for a vintage Les Paul like the one in the video, I wouldn't worry about it... it's already got all that wear anyway that I probably wouldn't even notice any minor damage that I could possibly do to it. Money isn't the issue.
      My grandfather purchased a brand new Hummingbird in 62 and it's now mine. He kept it as pristine as humanly possible all his life and now it's worth a good bit more money, and he still played the hell out of it. If you can't do both then you're just a clumsy person or you don't care about owning nice things, probably because you haven't ever owned nice things. Which would also explain why the entire concept of not wanting to mess them up is foreign to you to begin with.

    • @dkyelak
      @dkyelak 5 років тому

      Exactly. Hard to imagine people spending top dollar on "aged" guitars too.

    • @brendanmanning9683
      @brendanmanning9683 4 роки тому

      AdoreYouInAshXI if you’re gonna worry about a guitar that much then it’s pointless to spend a lot on a guitar. A guitar isn’t a decoration. You don’t need to constantly maintain your guitar to keep it in good quality. I play the hell out of my guitars and I only clean it up when I change the strings and they’re in as good condition as the day I bought em. You can think that way all you want but I really doubt you’ll enjoy your guitars as much as everyone else.

    • @markstewart8171
      @markstewart8171 3 роки тому

      @@AdoreYouInAshXI once you drop it all that goes away lol.

  • @markjamesmeli2520
    @markjamesmeli2520 6 років тому +1

    A buddy of mine had the silver issue with the scratchplate, like you have illustrated here. He bought it new in 1980. It was a "dog," to say the least. The wiring was bad and the pickups would fall through the plastic mounts pretty easily. The guitar had no "bite" to it, and something on it was always rattling.

  • @mikeoutlawpunk
    @mikeoutlawpunk 6 років тому

    I agree with you,100percent,my Gold tip is only 22 years old but I can hear and feel the difference in its tone and the comfort of its neck.ive owned it most of its life and put them the wear on the neck through honest play

  • @robertfrippers
    @robertfrippers 7 років тому +3

    very informative video as usual.
    I learn a lot about Les Pauls from your videos. Thanks!

  • @alanburridge6947
    @alanburridge6947 3 роки тому

    Wise words regarding playing older guitars, appreciated.

  • @nickbiser822
    @nickbiser822 2 роки тому

    Thank you, Austin. I appreciated the advice and what I was looking for.

  • @lennyvarvillejr.3788
    @lennyvarvillejr.3788 5 років тому +1

    Own a 81' Custom Silverburst that is in mint condition that hasn't aged as many others. It has spent its life in its case mostly. The Guitar feels like it plays itself. Crazy action with no buzz while wearing 10's. It seems to have developed warmer tones since I bought it new too? The only complaint I have is that it seems to feedback when I turn towards my amp. My other guitars do not have this problem. Not sure if original pickups are to blame or maybe I should keep volume knob down a bit.

    • @donramsburg1912
      @donramsburg1912 4 роки тому +1

      Some people spectate that the metal flakes add to the tone of the guitar even though theyre aluminum. Its also a heavier paintjob

  • @thomasreay4713
    @thomasreay4713 7 років тому +2

    I had a friend in 82 who had a silverburst custom and worth mentioning a real charvel allen holdsworth anyways he claimed the color was green ghost not silverburst and ive heard this before from others it is interesting

  • @joarholmstrom6251
    @joarholmstrom6251 7 років тому +5

    Sweet video! But one thing you didnt touch was that the older 70s Gibsons have narrower necks than modern ones. My 76 custom cherry and my 78 custom Silverburst have these really wonderful narrow necks that makes it so much easier to play 'thumbs over' style. They are 47.25mm wide at the 7th fret while my modern Gibsons are all about 49.5mm and it makes a huge differance. Do you know when Gibson started widening the necks?

    • @Trog
      @Trog  7 років тому +2

      I'd honestly never realized it before, until now haha Unfortunatley I dont know the exact date

    • @ThorneyedWT
      @ThorneyedWT 7 років тому

      Funny stuf, I deliberately bought 2015 Standard because that year Gibson used wider necks, and since I am big guy (2 m exactly), that was almost what I need. Still profile is a bit too slim for me though.
      Anyway interesting note. I think it is good that Gibson is always trying something new and different. May sometimes be wrong, but only those who do nothing may make no mistakes.

  • @loucotrone
    @loucotrone 2 роки тому

    u just answered so many of my questions sir. well done totally subscribed I'm looking at a vintage cutmstom, silverburts. I dig the yellowed pipes as well and the faded yellowish silver. TRUE money and quality brand guns always go up in value that just fax

  • @coolguy2873
    @coolguy2873 5 років тому +6

    The Adam Jones guitar.

    • @ashmac4732
      @ashmac4732 4 роки тому +1

      Duuuurrrrppppp... G0oD oNe bRooooo

  • @joermnyc
    @joermnyc 4 роки тому

    I actually got my hands on a silver burst SG body with no parts, aside from the pickguard and routed for P-90s about 8 years ago... I rebuilt it with Rio Grande Mini-Humbuckers... ended up selling it to fund my wedding, since I preferred my early 90s SG (black, batwing guard, modded over the years (new pickups, Bigsby (vibramate) and a 6-way switch (that now needs replacing, ugh)) anyway.

  • @yourtubener
    @yourtubener 5 років тому

    Besides the aging, the vintage has a sharper look to it in its cut way which kinda leans me toward the vintage as far as looks. But playing both modern and an 81 either one was good enough for me

  • @Tim85-y2q
    @Tim85-y2q 3 роки тому

    If there's one plus side to new Gibsons being so expensive, it's that it means the vintage equivalents don't necessarily cost more

  • @tomfitzsimmons6535
    @tomfitzsimmons6535 4 роки тому

    You should do more like this. I like hearing your thoughts on things. Don't be a total slave to the ratings.

  • @Custoid
    @Custoid 2 роки тому

    Well, this past week there was a Silverburst LP at the Euro Demo shop for 3k. Was. Considering used prices at the moment, I'd say that would be a nice grab, no?

  • @RiotHomeRecording
    @RiotHomeRecording 6 років тому +1

    I own a many Vintage Guitars, my 1979 silverburst is all original and my absolute favorite guitar.

  • @mrtonysantos
    @mrtonysantos 6 років тому +10

    no mention of the tonal differences of the discoloured paint as advocated by adam jones? sinful

    • @LOOMING_WRAITH_OF_BAD_OMEN
      @LOOMING_WRAITH_OF_BAD_OMEN 6 років тому +3

      That doesn't even make any sense. The paint affected the guitar tone? Wtf?

    • @moviescolin
      @moviescolin 5 років тому +2

      That was a joke that Adam said. He says a lot of jokes.

    • @DanteLikesRock
      @DanteLikesRock 4 роки тому +1

      @@LOOMING_WRAITH_OF_BAD_OMEN r/whooooosh into oblivion

    • @stupidthefish4981
      @stupidthefish4981 4 роки тому

      The thing is is there is nobody in TOOL who doesn’t joke about anything. People immediately assume that Maynards the lovable oddball but they all are the lovable oddball. Maynard’s is just more prominent because nobody talks with any of the others.

  • @precisionbrown6829
    @precisionbrown6829 4 роки тому +1

    You think you feel bad? I sold my special edition silver burst signed by Les Paul! I’m truly heartbroken 1980 💔

  • @terryweaver9943
    @terryweaver9943 10 місяців тому +1

    Lol my how times have changed. Adam jones single handedly drove the price of a new one to $5000 plus.... vintage, double that.

    • @samclemmons5373
      @samclemmons5373 Місяць тому

      I was looking for a Les Paul Custom twenty years ago. I was between a late 70’s black beauty and a silverburst from the same era. It was the early days of eBay, and they were both going for about $1200. Far, far cheaper than new LPC’s. I only had the money for one and got the black beauty, but I wish I could have picked up a silverburst too!
      Honestly though I’ve moved on from that guitar although I do still own it. These Norlin era LPC’s are HEAVY. Like 11 or 12 pounds heavy, and they have very thin necks which can feel odd given the weight of the body.

  • @scottyd2262
    @scottyd2262 7 років тому +2

    I've already got a 2012 Traditional that I bought brand new. But that's not stopping me really wanting a Custom Silverburst real bad.
    My ONLY problem with them is the way that they can go green when they age..... Sorry to anybody that has an aged green one.
    But that really bugs me.... I still wouldn't say no to one for the right price.... Do you know if they have changed the lacquer so that the new ones don't turn green ?

    • @Trog
      @Trog  7 років тому

      They will all green in time. Its just the way Nitro ages. However, I think they do put some more plasticizers in the finish to prevent it happening as fast. Keep it out of the sunlight and in the case when not in use, and it will take a long time for it to green.

    • @aaronslippery4785
      @aaronslippery4785 7 років тому

      The rusting/greening changes the tone a little.

  • @neel_mass3y
    @neel_mass3y 4 роки тому

    ok does anyone find it weird that this video is from 2017 but the video hes linked is 3 years later?

  • @julosx
    @julosx 6 років тому

    If I had the choice between the new ones and the old one, I'd go for one of the new.

  • @donnyhanson4010
    @donnyhanson4010 7 років тому

    Great video describing the differences. Very informative.

  • @citytonightproductions
    @citytonightproductions 4 роки тому

    Silver burst turns into gold burst with aging it seems. I prefer the newer silver but with ebony fretboard, I think around 2010 they changed to richlite?

  • @mjtan6787
    @mjtan6787 3 роки тому

    Can we ask the Gibson custom shop to make this for us?

  • @RiotHomeRecording
    @RiotHomeRecording 6 років тому

    How can you tell if you have Shaw pick ups?

  • @Andre-yr3wi
    @Andre-yr3wi 5 років тому

    Where can i buy the silverburst?

  • @stephendawg1
    @stephendawg1 3 роки тому

    Cigarette smoke is a Silverburst’s worst enemy. That’s why the aged look is green in color. I hate that look. My 1980 SB was as pretty silver as the day I bought it when I sold it in the 1990’s. Then it went on tour with Whiteheart for several years then was sold to a recording studio in Illinois. Still looked great the last I saw of it. Of course, I wish I still had it.

  • @YouTubeSukks
    @YouTubeSukks 6 років тому

    Do the modern Silverbursts have PCBs or the old school pots?

    • @Trog
      @Trog  6 років тому +2

      pots - if you're talking custom shop customs

    • @YouTubeSukks
      @YouTubeSukks 6 років тому

      @@Trog yes. I'm about to buy a private reserve custom silverburst. PCBs are a pain for swapping new pickups because Seymour Duncan doesn't come with quick connects.

  • @jeremywillis737
    @jeremywillis737 6 років тому

    $2000 difference on Reverb. That’s pretty sizable, as far as price goes.

    • @Trog
      @Trog  6 років тому

      Prices on vintage ones have gone up considerably this past year. Vintage will bring between 2800-4500 and modern will bring 2400-3500

  • @brandonbrenton1680
    @brandonbrenton1680 7 років тому

    With all the damage on the guitars how do you keep it clean since u can't use cleaning product

  • @genekloszewski5484
    @genekloszewski5484 6 років тому +2

    all gibsons are nice, i personally, am not a fan, of all that black edge paint,, older instruments have a certain mojo,,....

  • @k1k2k37
    @k1k2k37 7 років тому +2

    you didn't touch much on the tone subject, but otherwise a great vid

    • @Trog
      @Trog  7 років тому +4

      Tone is kind of a subjective thing and pickups and pots can always be swapped out. I would've done a tone comparison, but the vintage example in this video has pretty much all replaced parts so it wouldn't have been a fair representation of what a vintage one sounds like.

  • @JohnSmith-km7qy
    @JohnSmith-km7qy 3 роки тому

    Im a collector/invester in guitars ... I do very well. Its not COMPLICATED. It comes down to DISCIPLINE ability to control emotion, doing your homework , being patient YET willing to act quickly when opportunity presents. Transaction costs are huge though ... I don't use Reverb since the law changed so that you now pay sales tax. I don't speculate on appreciation .. I buy below market and if I happen to hit a winner that's great but for me its about value investing not trying to outthink.the market or anticipate trends. Currency arbitrage of sorts has been a winner - bought s bunch of Yen at 129 per dollar cause that was a historically great exchange rate ... Gives me an edge right from theget go if I buy from sellers In Japan - no sales tax and with shipping relatively cheap that's the only expense. Guitar market is inefficient - lots of impulse buying and selling , AND participants

    • @JohnSmith-km7qy
      @JohnSmith-km7qy 3 роки тому

      Who act carelessly and recklessly - they create opportunity for profit. Establish an edge through knowledge - apply it in a DISCIPLINED manner ... Reap the profit

  • @RussBMCSGT
    @RussBMCSGT 3 роки тому

    Did you ever notice how pointy the horn is on the vintage one vs the newer one? I don’t like it, it’s way more pointy.

  • @giampaolosquadroni5351
    @giampaolosquadroni5351 11 місяців тому

    You should redo this video considering the current markets logics.

  • @Sabrinathefishinggirl
    @Sabrinathefishinggirl 5 років тому

    Green teardrop or grey teardrop. Gibson screwed the pooch on the burst. I still kinda sorta like the grey one.

  • @jayhallman6666
    @jayhallman6666 6 років тому

    11:39 Iv never seen tuners that do that. Interesting.

    • @Trog
      @Trog  6 років тому +1

      Those tuners were very shortly lived. Gibson Branded Schaller 'Flip-out' Winding tuners. Good for when you don't have a string winder on you. The little pegs fold into the peg when not in use.

  • @wadeguidry6675
    @wadeguidry6675 6 років тому

    Looks like Moonburst.

  • @jaredlucow
    @jaredlucow 4 роки тому

    why cant they make the new ones look like old ones... no one wants silver, they want what the silverburst becomes

  • @RolandSpecialSauce
    @RolandSpecialSauce Рік тому +1

    This didn't age well.

  • @ykitskanyenorth847
    @ykitskanyenorth847 6 років тому +1

    I don't really like the silver bursts that much

  • @camjohnholtz3987
    @camjohnholtz3987 4 роки тому

    I wish I could afford one :(

  • @cashlayton1313
    @cashlayton1313 7 років тому

    Jesus! I just wanted to be like Matt Skiba!

  • @comicstone6564
    @comicstone6564 4 роки тому

    The aging puts me off.

  • @jacobhoggen162
    @jacobhoggen162 7 років тому

    how much is a 79 silverburst worth?

    • @Trog
      @Trog  7 років тому

      Currently... around $2500-$3500 depending on condition and originality

    • @jacobhoggen162
      @jacobhoggen162 7 років тому

      Okey i just found one www.blocket.se/stockholm/Gibson_Les_Paul_Custom_vintage_76791501.htm?ca=20&w=3 for roughly 2800 dollar i think on a swedish sell site, think its worth it?

    • @Trog
      @Trog  7 років тому

      It's hard to judge the guitar only on one photo. It looks like it might have had a refret job and maybe the pickups replaced. The overseas market is generally more expenive. $2800 isn't a deal on that one, but I would say the top value. $2200-$2500 would be a more comfortable price as long as there are no repairs

    • @jacobhoggen162
      @jacobhoggen162 7 років тому

      I live in sweden myself. and yea he wrote in the add he had made a refret job recently

    • @Trog
      @Trog  7 років тому

      As long as it was a good job - there is nothing wrong with that. Most refretted customs play amazingly!

  • @scottbogfoot
    @scottbogfoot 6 років тому +1

    All my guitars are bought new. reasons are because I'll never sell, I'm passing them off to my kids. And I don't want someone else's girlfriend, if that analogy works. 😃

  • @anniedarkhorse6791
    @anniedarkhorse6791 Рік тому

    The one on the right is gross. I'd buy a silverburst Standard, if they'd create one in actual silver, rather than greeny beige.

  • @DanteLikesRock
    @DanteLikesRock 4 роки тому

    Sexy guitar.

  • @sonialata6467
    @sonialata6467 4 роки тому

    I want that so much my parents won't let me in 13 lol but ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • @Max_Kleiber
    @Max_Kleiber 7 років тому

    i don't get it why people like the silverburst so much. i personally think that color is blasphemy.

  • @joelweidenfeld471
    @joelweidenfeld471 7 років тому

    I SO hope another instrument comes along that makes sounds better than guitars and is used as the instrument defining the present , I really hope all collectors lose their houses they use to hord these axes in. Or, perhaps, PEOPLE will catch onto the fact that the modalities electric guitars excell in are fully explored and there's no point in playing a guitar unless your going to be amazing and you are a classics retro performer. I really don't think the market is high for guitars anyway, too many, the music is over and new instruments are in the horizon,, no one needs a from kit anymore as big and bulky as a 70s kit was and no one needs a 500 pound Paul around their neck or in their house EITHER..i hope the collectors go bankrupt

  • @joelweidenfeld471
    @joelweidenfeld471 7 років тому

    A person with talent can make a 20 dollar guitar sound GREAT, it's about talent, guitars are so numerous at this point there is nothing special about them , soon I'm sure you will 3d print a great guitar,,, so, who should have a great guitar, the answer is someone worthy...like any implement of skill...its not a designer piece, not a collectable for assholes as there are people who play who are worthy and should have THEM, it's like storing a warehouse of tuna while your village starves and there's no chance that you will ever be hungry....plus, like a car it rots if it sits, so , not only do collector assholes hord, they destroy what they hord,, so it would be like pouring the tuna cans out and down the drain in front of the starving villagers...you hear clown BOY??

    • @Trog
      @Trog  7 років тому +6

      There is a lot of hate in your comments. Yes, a talented guitarist can play any guitar and make it sound good, but there is nothing wrong with collecting or dealing in instruments. If a person can afford them, then they can have them. I deal in 70s/80s Gibsons primarily and share them with the entire world with up close looks at guitars that most wont ever see in person. No one is 'starving' because as you've pointed out there are more guitars out there than players. Most collections still get played and are maintained. Guitar is a 'dying' instrument because they really aren't in the mainstream any more - but hopefully that will turn around soon. We do it for fun and appreciation of the instruments - the history behind them. Thanks for watching

    • @JohnBarrow1961
      @JohnBarrow1961 7 років тому +3

      All three of your comments are complete BS.