Defending PTI, Digital Media and Thought Behind Things - Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi -
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Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi is a content creator and a podcaster - he hosts the popular podcast 'Thought Behind Things'.
Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi comes on The Pakistan Experience for a detailed discussion on Imran Khan, PTI, Digital Media, Podcasting, Mental Health, Cyber Trolling, Elite Privilege and the Aurat March.
Does Syed Muzamil support PTI?
Has he been a part of the PTI digital media wing?
Does Muzamil regret trolling people?
Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.
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The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
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Chapters:
0:00 The importance of conversations and perspectives
10:55 Populists - the left, right and centre
22:06 Pakistani politics, policies, and programs
33:54 Defending Khan and PTI
47:10 Muzammil's early work, DMW
1:00:33 Political benefits, biases and the Imran Khan interview
1:19:30 Personal criticisms addressed
1:31:35 Twitter crisis, the dangers of social media, and mental health
1:50:44 Aurat March and online perspectives
1:56:16 QnA, analysing PTI and Khan - Розваги
Who is here after dil ki baat series
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41 minutes se zyada nahi dekh ska, the guy who is hosting the podcast manipulates and wrongly phrases the statements whenever he wants and then repeatedly tells Muzamil not to wrongly phrase statements. GREAT!!
😂 left exactly the r same minutes lol, host is like an idiot. Not sure what He was trying to prove, extreme sarcastic behavior and low intellect. He should treat Muzzamil well
I'm not a TBT/Muzamil fan, but one thing I would put up here: Muzamil has some serious balls. Knew what he was walking into, and yet went it.
He came off looking better look at the contrast professional look, clean cut and disciplines as opposed to sgs who’s unkempt and undisciplined
Ahh the personality worshipping of Pakistanis never disappoints
Is ko kehte h beela bnda
Muz is a cheetah. Sacha bnda ha darna kyun tha.
@@faeznadeem4145 lol ur a pti fan😭
2 burgers trying to show that they were from middle class while reality is both are from the elite class which isn't wrong but them trying to show that they were from middle class is what makes the convo idiotic.
Absolutely!
Jealous much?
They are middle class, its your perception that middle class people are the one hanging out of bus. Thats poor class bro :)
Elite class would be sons of politicians, malik riaz etc
Your base line of classes is wrong
@@KishmalaIslam the meatriding is crazy
Do you pay their bills? Nahi na! Then chill kro and stop making an issue out of something for which they are not even answerable to anyone
This podcast is so raw and authentic. It takes a lot of courage to come forward, own your mistakes and apologize. Kudos to Muzamil!
This wasn't a podcast this was more of an interview even though Shehzad is claiming multiple times he does a podcast not an interview, but in his whole podcast he's trying to attack Muzammil on the things they disagree with. Credit goes to Muzammil for apologizing and not making it look like Shehbaz Gill vs Rana Sana Ullah. That clip shouldn't have been published yet Shehzad not even published he's publishing it in short videos on social platforms to get views.
Shehzad don't give softball to anyone neither allow podcast to go off track
Wow Muzammil is a lion for showing up and owning up. Hats off 👏👏
Great podcast, love your podcasts as always, here I will appreciate Muzammil for confronting every single thing and trying to clear especially in front of public, it really need guts to constantly face the criticism patiently and dont react, both of you guys has taught the public how to resolve any personal matter in a civilised manner❤
Line of questioning is so feisty and well researched. The confrontation part was definitely epic. This also makes me realize how articulate and vigilant one has to be at all times being an activist, social media personality or journalist. It is nothing like having a convo in our 'elite drawing rooms'.
it was not to bring personal issues
Very happy to see such an amazingly healthy discussion. This is what we need to understand that we are all humans. We learn, unlearn! We do mistakes. But the most important thing is that we should always accept our right or wrong doings.
And such podcast show others that we can have different opinions that can be voiced in a mature and healthy manner.
This was such a brilliant podcast - I loved loved every bit of it - it was heartening to see men expressing their vulnerability especially leading Podcast owners of the country - 👏👏👏👏thanks for spreading the message of openness, apology, empathy and mutual respect in the end - thank you Shehzad and Muzammil for this episode - brilliant work guys!!
Muzammil's podcasts have always been very constructive and productive.
An absolute treat of a podcast. Credit to Muzammil for owning up and apologising while setting the record straight. Hats off to Shehzad. As inspiring as always. Can't wait for the second part.
There is a second part?
An absolute cringe of a podcast.
No manners shown by shahzad bhai. Lg rha hai bol news ya republic tv chl rha hai
Like he was telling about economic policies .. and shehzad sir interrupted him hafiz sheikh, asad umar then tareen etc...
Such a petty host.
It's literally like muhalay ki phupo. "Tuny mere baray main yeh kaha woh kaha"
What a stupid person.
An immature take … the host of the podcast should never bring a guest to speak with the hidden agenda of settling personal scores.. this is what it seemed like grow up this isn’t playground “ u said this now apologize”
Ever heard of freedom of speech .. we are all entitled to our opinions he disagreed with u over politics .. it wasn’t personal
Boht sakhat podcast. Aag aur paani ka milaap. Kudos to Shehzad for inviting Muzammil and hats off to Muzammil for being as honest as possible.
I have been listening to many Pakistani podcasts since two years now and I don't remember if I heard this long podcast. This might be the longest podcast in Pakistan as far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong. Pakistani content is heading towards right direction ❤️
New follower here and I must say, this podcast managed to keep me engaged throughout. It was refreshing to see raw, honest and productive conversations like these, it’s incredibly brave to have difficult conversations where both parties manage to see their own vices and hold each other accountable.
Halfway through this podcast I made up my mind to write mean about you and your podcast but then I decided to watch full lenght and man what a podcast it was. Loved it to bits. Kudos to both of you.
What an amazing podcast. Both guys have opposite views on some topics and atlast they both agree on one conclusion. These type of debates should be encourage so that the audience can get a rational and critical analysis.
Respect❤️🙌🏻👍🏼
Its wonderful that there’s a conversation between the two sides. A humane one. Great stuff Shehzad. Keep these coming. Hats off to Muzammil that he came to the podcast and had this difficult conversation.
Kudos to both of you for having this conversation.
Kudos to Muzammil for coming on the podcast and facing these tough questions like a champ. Didn't think he had it in him. Although I love Shehzad, I think sometimes he starts cutting people during a conversation. It's counter-productive and makes the other person defensive, instead of answering the question.
The cutting-in is absolutely necessary for keeping the guest on topic because on uncomfortable topics. Keeps the conversation sharp and interesting otherwise people start blabbering and jump from one topic to another without addressing it properly.
@@ThePakistanExperience bro batain karna aur TV show host karney mein faraak hai.
First time watching you and love the podcasting style! Really enjoyed the civil discourse. New favourite Pakistani podcaster for sure 💃🏻
Honestly, I have never seen Muzammil’s podcast but after seeing this episode I will definitely look into that - because it takes integrity and grace to own your mistakes and apologize-
This is called a genuine conversation. A genuine podcast. Although, this is my 1st, if not the second podcast I am watching on The Pakistan Experience, but the way Mr. Ghiaz questioned every question to Mr. Muzammil was amazing. And the way, Mr. Muzammil answered each and every question was great.
Also loved learning more about Muzammil. Had no idea about the social media interaction between you two. Almost feeling regretful about asking you when this is coming out at Napa on Sunday. I might have probably come across as a troll but I meant what I said, I'm an avid listener and a huge fan of you in general. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. It is a privilege to be able to sit in a room with you. Metaphorically, at least.
Good to see "ACTUAL DISCUSSIONS" happening. So good to see such content
Actual discussion? I found this guy muzammil an absolute disappointment. If this guy is the reflection of Pakistan’s youth, no wonder pakistan is the way it is.
@@liliths_ agreed, underwhelming just like his podcast.
@@liliths_ he just keeps on shilling about himself and his idiotic achievements.
@@ThePakistanExperienceIt was a good podcast but it was not cool to discuss private msgs on public podcast you could hav solved this issue with him personally. secondly u both r knowledgable but muzamil seemed more logical and precise during arguments also him saying again and again that i m not defending and yet u used this caption for ur podcast seems that u r badly trying to prove him a pti worker ,starting from dmw discussion to caption all ur effort was in proving him to be son pti payroll. Be precise and avoid personal biases while on podcast otherwise ur podcasts are great. Good luck
Such an intense podcast! I commend both of you. Great stuff.
I loved this podcast the way you two opened up to things that arent and will never come in the spotlight. ❤
Love the civilised manner in which the two young men talk about their differences without hiding their biases. I like it. To me positions either one takes on different issues including with respect to each other is not important. What is more important is their honesty, openness, civility and respecting each others views. Wish Pakistanis could take the tight message from this discussion.
Yaar your questions are getting very mature , precise and relavant recently. Good work
Best PodCast bashing Eachother with healthy discussions and opening up as a Human
Enjoyed every second PTI vs PMLN vs PPP was enjoyable 🎉♥️
@46:41 shehzad says why are you relying on ppl's comments ...
n he himself relied on Muzammil's comment... n created a viral scene in podcast ! 👏 wow 👏
Why are people praising this podcast? This was more of a debate. Host was not even letting guest complete his point. Host acted like he had personal grudges against the guest. Tameez honi chahye if you have invited someone as a guest
Both of them are being real to the core … an epic podcast
These are the types of discussions that are healthy for our future. You know I don't agree with your views but you are doing an amazing job having these kinds of discussions. Resubscribed.
It's always wonderful to see two people with differing political opinions sitting together and talking things out. I was pleasantly surprised to see Muzammil agreeing with a lot of toxic things that PTI supporters do. It was also great to see him openly say that he doesn't agree with the views of bigots like Ali Mohammed. Clearly such conversations need to happen so we can see how much more we agree on rather than disagree. Thank you for always trying to do your best to heal the divide Shehzad! Your podcast continues to surprise and helps unlearn so much.
Uncomfortable conversation for Muzamil for sure but he kept along with the conversation so that was great! Shehzad didnt show any mercy and Muzamil was lost for words on a number occasions. I guess Muzamil had the answer but couldnt really construct them as bouncers kept on coming!
This wasn't just a hard conversation for you both, but for me as a viewer too. Took me around 3 weeks to completely watch this podcast in bits and pieces.. but the last 10 mins or so helped me let go of all the uncomfortable feeling I had while watching it. Good job🙌🏻
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true
Could clearly see flaws in how the guest paints narrative but that's how discourse works. U listen as well. Loved it!
Such a great podcast I haven't listen to this kind of podcast where one just ask and the other was like yeah you are right and huge respect to Syed Muzammil that he try to listen and give his version which can be questionable and criticized but these kind of intellectual debate will surely progress to the country and make us enlightened huge respect to both of you ❤
Shehzad, I have been watching your podcasts since the last one year and this today has won my heart. I love you for the bravery with which you confronted Muzammil. I admire you for your honesty and not trying to become a people pleaser just because they're on your podcast.
Muzammil is doing great work too, i like his podcasts too.
But with your podcasts, I as a Pakistani feel more connected and heard because you really ask the most important, relevant and difficult questions.
i have learned how to ask good questions from you.
thank you and more power to you!!💕
my two favorite podcast creators in one frame love it please make part 2🌹🖤
Hell of a ride. Just amazing Shehzad bhai. I am a serial Bigg Boss viewer. This episode is everything. Sirf yeh Bigg Boss ka season skip kar diya but look at kudrat ka nizam. Us ke apne khel hain. Beautiful conversation. More power to Mr. Muzamil and Ms Humna. Him being vulnerable (for his partner) was a beautiful moment. BTW looking sexi as hell Shehzad bhai.
PS: Waise hum middle claasion ka vacation Nani ke ghar tak hi hota hai (Middle class pretend karna tha to thoda homework banta tha). Khuda hume aur ahl-e-watan ko bhi asia tone deaf privilege ata farmaye. Amin. Reminds me of my friend jo is economy mein bhi Iphone 13 pro max khareed kar khud ko Gareeb kehta hai cause use Iphone 14 chahiye. LOL
What a man Muzammil is! Amazing podcast! Hats off for facing every question so fiercely yet comfortably.
But still Pti sucks
@@axzostavicii7765 PMLN and PPP sucks more than PTI.
Shehzad, the way you confronted Muzammil was incredible! A mix of yorkers and bouncers that put him on the back foot. I hope he refrains from doing the things he had done previously, although highly doubt it
1:49:27 what an important discussion, people think that a public forum is a free for all. One can say anything and not be held accountable. More power to the both of you for handling this whole thing so respectfully and decently. If only everyone could act as responsibly on social media and in real life. Please remember if at any point your current roles bring you to a breaking point - chuck it! Nothings worth your mental health
Thank you so much to the both of you. Lots of love your way (and Humna too)!!
They both gonna remember this conversation for many years to come. And that's the beauty of having an open conversation. I do disagree with a few points made by Mr. Shehzad on personal instances, same as I disagree with Mr. Muzammil's view points about politics. But then again, this podcast wasn't about listeners as much it was about them. They sat, had long convo on and off camera, cried, laughed and try to learn through their mistakes. It's beautiful. More power your way ❤️
First time watching your podcast and I'm absolutely loving the rawness of it. Really admire how bold, brave and clear Shehzad was and the thing I appreciate more than that is how this whole podcast preaches the lesson of table talk where two persons with contradictory mindsets sit Infront of each other and talk .If I was at Muzamil's place, I would've cried FS
This single podcast was better than whole industry's fake sugar-coated podcasts
Much love for the show
Muzamil is so well behaved and calm in this podcast. Very genuinely done podcast. Loved every bit of it.
2 hours into the podcast and I am so happy I deleted all my social media (except youtube) five years ago. Life is much more peaceful and intentional.
I really felt bad for Muzammil when he broke down to tears. Political discourse aside, you two were having very real and vulnerable discussion. Too good!
Where did he?
@@tutorstown973 1:43
Didn't expect this to drop today! Looking forward to it!
@@ThePakistanExperience better release quality podcasts like these over the weekend (just a suggestion)
Cant wait to put the kids to bed an be glued to this episode!!
Muzamil Bhai & Shehzad 🤝🏻❤️👌🏻
I had been waiting for this podcast since I watched a UA-cam short of it. It's my first time seeing Muzamil defending PTI. I admired his patience and art to stay neutral with his guests. His intention is always to let his guest speak and present their opinions. He always tries to probe his guest and stay a professional host for his podcast.
On the other hand, I saw some of Shehzad's podcasts but every time I felt his biased against PTI.
At the end of the day, the whole argument can be reduced to years in which Pakistan was ruled by PML-N and PPP VS the years PTI ruled. Any common person can look around them and decide which one was better?
Interview/Podcast (Muzammil) VS Conversation/Gossip (Shehzad)
Shahzad was getting offended and was not letting Muzammil talk properly. Just because you know alot of terms it does not mean you cannot be immature and negative. I just can't grope the fact that PPP and PML-N had held jalsas during Covid. Asifa ardari with Masters in Global Health urged people to come out. As a student of Geography and Disaster Management , i feel COP 27 and other climate change work has been going on in the concerned departments. Please keep the politics aside. Politicians are just shit.
Damn! I felt it in my heart. So many genuine heartfelt moments in this one. Amazing.
1:43:35 It hurt me so much that good people go through this. It is part of life that make you more strong.
Yeah social media is really fucked up
YOU READ MY MIND.
The host is such a petty person
This is nothing but a senseless argument... Host keep interrupting guest.. closing this video... Its nuisance... Please keep integrity of podcast.. it is like a tv debate that we hate and come to UA-cam for some meaningful discussion.. very disappointed
Other comments will let you know regarding the awesomeness of this podcast. However, as someone who has watched loads of Muzamil's podcasts, I also got emotional from 1:43:05 to 1:44:07. Considering the fact that he knows the power of words and uses it effectively, that moment was very surprising for me.
Cheer up lad! All of us make mistakes, but accepting them takes real courage.
Ooh shut up you become emotional
@@abdulrehmankhan4860 I really respect your opinion. Just an advice, your words really show your background and upbringing, so kindly use them wisely. May Allah bless you :)
Muzammil just beating around bushes. He is a classic example of cognitive dissonance whereby he is trying to defend his political biases against established facts.
What concerns me more is amount of people praising the content of this “2 buddiyon kee larhaayee” type “podcast”
Thoroughly enjoyed this test match. Shehzad bowling them fierce shot ones at 150 on a bouncy Perth track. Muzammil got hit a few times but survives the day. Good show!
This was fantastic, keep it up both of you.
I'm halfway of this podcast and I can't stop myself writting down some thoughts here. First of all I am a huge fan of Shehzad's podcasts. He's having conversations, nobody is having!! Having that said, this podcast has something, it is so so so real. So raw! I do not know much about Muzamil, so many of the background stories I had no idea about. Still, you could perfectly see on the first hour his need of defending himself. Like I felt kind of pity for him, even a little anbnoyed where he wasn't ready to assume some facts... Later, how bravely Shehzad put out some "personal" attacks to him and I was about to cry. This felt so real, so humaningly true. Finally a podcast that make us see how we humans are, full of flwas, full of doubts, full of 'feelings'. I love how this shows that we must sit down and talk peacefully, even when we complain, do it right, listen to each other. And right now I'm where Muzamil starts to cry. I had to stop to write this down before it changes my perspective at the end of the podcast. This converstation has touched me differently Shehzad. You're doing such great job MashAllah! Hope to sit down someday talking about everything in your podcast, Regards xxxxxxxx
❤ 👌
2:17:46 How could Shaukat Tereen possibly have acted on his own? If he acted on his own, why was he not given a show-cause notice by PTI? Afterward, PTI leadership even came out in his defense. Muzammil accepts IK tried to crash the economy by fixing fuel prices but chose not to accept that Shaukat Tareen acted on IK's will when he tried to sabotage the IMF deal. Muzamil Bhai really needs a detox from PTI propaganda.
30 mins into the podcast, love it Shehzad!
What an amazing debate of two people with different values but still able to hold a civil debate/discussion to discuss their views & opinions! Civiled discussions and debates are much needed in Pakistan! Really gald that you held him responsible for what he was saying and called it out and debated him about his views, he is a bit right leaning.
Well spoken Muzamil.
Shehzad on the other hand only tried to label Muzamil as a PTI supporter for 2 hours.
Muzammil is The Man
Articulate detailed answers tackled by the usual whataboutery of Ghias
I am a fan of (a kind of) Muzammil.
Only because he knows what he is doing....he knows how to motivate ppl .... And honestly muzammil you spoke very well on this podcast. And they you cries for Hamna's pain....you took my heart away ....crying....brb 🥺
Muzamil bhai ki respect aor barh gyi meri nazar mein. He is gem of a person ❤️
Loved the podcast
hats off to Shahzad Bhai❤
I changed my thoughts about you after this podcast
I believe that discussing private chats in a public show and making the other guy apologize to you in front of the entire world is unprofessional.
Been listening to the previous podcasts religiously, and yet again sacrificing sleep for this one. Thank you for always making my week Shehzad :)
These genuine across the isle conversations, and the previous informative ones, are a treat to hear
what's up with host continuously attacking the guest & all these sarcastic comments in between then pulling up screenshots of private group? Host have no manners about conducting a podcast. Learn from Muzamil, see how calm and tolerant he is. Maybe host was trying to create drama for views. Disgusting.
@Muzzamil bhai... hats off❤️❤️❤️
Love you always 💞 such a humble person, how difficult for you to face such an arrogant opponent but you have done great,kudos to you! Shezad ghias will remember his this behavior and one day he'll apologize you publicly...✅
I love the opposing styles of both men. And Shahzad has led the conversation well here, with a few digs here and there 😉
One of the best podcast i have seen. Both you are brave inspite of differences in almost everything you both sat and discussed beautifully
I actually got excited as if a new song of BTS got released! Uff SOO EXCITED FOR THIS
You both are ❤. Shehzad just raising the bar and Muzammil I learnt a lot from you today and you took everything like a true person.
My favourite two people having a conversation!! finally,this is the only podcast,I see people opening up .A sign of a competent lawyer and host.
1:43:10 Muzammil stay strong don't show your weak side to others ALLAH is with you, i Love you so much stay strong buddy ❤
Whattay podcast. Loved every minute of it.
You both put podcast to another level,we should appreciate muzamil for answering questions with such esteem,I don't think any other influencer can do it with such ease n educated way.Good thing is to respect each other views.
best ever show to watch...amazing..there is some stuff between both of them which they sorted during the conversation .i hope we should do that
I will come here everyday to comment that shahzad sir needs to learn ..how to listen to another's point of view and not to interrupt when someone is trying to explain
Bro i started watching like 1 in the morning with sleepy eyes and ended up finishing it and couldn't sleep 2 hours after lol it was this GOOD. So much of authenticity, Sense, Wisdom and emotions. Best of the best :)
This podcast is zbrdstt actually yr... i was not expecting this after watch small clips on social media about this podcast.
As someone who didn't know about either of these gentlemen before watching this, I must say I would give credit to both the host and the guest for having a candid conversation. My two cents: if you've already got them cornered, no need to beat them over the head with it. I understand that's not everyone's personal style, but in my view, the host would've come out looking more grounded after a solid confrontation without continuing to buckle down and hammer the other person once your point is made. I'm intrigued to see what else comes up on this channel.
i kinda fancied watching two of my favourite Pakistani Podcasters together and you made my wish come true :)
keep it up ..... sending loads of love.
Having watched this podcast, I convinced that Musamil was way way more open minded and pragmatist who was having a policy oriented approach than Shahzad bhai who was more into the political rhetoric and historical debate on war between politicians and establishment than practical solution to the various problems faced by the country.
Lol
Muzamil created multiple fallacies.. and salute to shehzad not letting him get away with bullshit
@@holidayplatform2570 For me both are biased as Shehzad is Noon league supporter and Muzamil is PTI supporter.Both are needed to disaffiliate themselves from political parties.
@@faraazsiddiqui1450
He is not affiliated In any way with N league...
How can you be so sure he is patwari ..
Now I am convinced, any issue can be resolved by the talk
The way this guest responded calmly to all questions is such a wonderful job. this is the beauty of conversation and his motto. also, it requires much courage to apologize publicly.
Seems like Muzamil is trying to learn. He is a bright person. We all have believed in things we are ashamed of now. Let people heal , let them learn and grow. Let’s not put them down so they feel scared to change. Good to hear his side. Hope he brings more guests who challenge his beliefs.
If at the end you say I'll still vote the same party then you've your mind made up for not liking things in a rational way and admitting the horse you bet on turned out to be sick
Great Analysis 💯👍🏻
Made my work day enjoyable listening to your podcast.
Kept me hooked till the end 👌🏻
Sare ki sare e dakh li Hn Dono ki podcasts, frequency brhao bhae podcasts ki 😂 (Love from Sydney 🇦🇺❤)
Great podcast, honest and raw, but with lots of empathy. You said that you disagree with a few things at a fundamental level with Dr. Taimur Rahman, and i think a podcast where you guys talk about your disagreements would be a good one
The balls shahzad had to confront everything that hurt him infront of him, IS CRAZYYYY!! 😍♥️
Loved the podcast, learnt alot from it. Feels like 3 hours passed by in just a glimpse
Funny how Shahzad Ghias was constantly judging Muzamil for being politically biased despite his own biasedness due to personal grudges & political inclinations which was evident throughout. Hats off to Muzammil for being so patient to all this hypocrisy while maintaining his eloquence at the same time. Even the middle class discussion came out of Shehzad trying to corner him publicly which was just based on a private group discussion. Shehzad you're doing a good job but sorry to say you've always been negative & the first time I witnessed this is when you blamed Tabish Hashmi for looting some amount of money from you in the QWS show ... remember? You have this habit of bringing up personal issues on live shows which obviously can always be sorted offline.
Here's the link to that show: ua-cam.com/video/NoT1QksK6Pw/v-deo.html ( Skip to 1:02:00)
Muzaamil ♥♥♥
I loved it when Muzamil said that his style of conducting conversations is to do counter questions only to understand how "THINGS works (Thoughts behind Things) rather than to attack and demean others like Shahzeb Khanzada, Muzamil discussed policies and was on point. In contrast to Mr. Ghiyas, he criticized the party he votes for. 🤠
The entire conversation was missing one thing which is DYNASTIC POLITICS, political parties are representations of ideas and not human DNA, one can not argue with family supporters who still believe in the traditional authority of the family and believes in transferring power to a bloodline.
I am here after the show "dil ki bat" show only and almost firs time this show. Regrettably, I was unable to endure the entirety of the episode due to the host's deplorable demeanor (I apologize for the harsh language).
I extend my utmost respect to Muzzamil for maintaining his composure in the face of such provocation. It is indeed surprising to hear that he claims an educational background from the United States. How perplexing! In my experience, the United States is known for its courteous populace, and I have yet to encounter a Peron as undignified as this host in USA.
I have same thought