The Last Of Us Part 1 Remake - Ellie Kills David the Cannibal // David Boss Fight
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![[s1] joel having beef with ellie for 9 minutes](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/z-NF5RVdDJY/mqdefault.jpg)
Here is the complete story of Ellie and David and all the terrible things he wanted to do to her - ua-cam.com/video/JmLka0SF2-k/v-deo.html
This is the first time that Joel called her "Baby girl", which he called to his daughter in the past. This is the exact moment that Joel became the father of Ellie. What a touching scene!
I cried like a baby when that happened
Bravo druckmann
@@nod5394 not Drugged man, but it was Amy Hennig!
I thought the same thing when he said “baby girl” 😭
Agreed
The "He tried to-"
The "Oh, baby girl..."
The hug
The music
The "Joel..."
Everything in this scene is perfect.
5:53 The emotion the actors show is just unreal!
Them talking with no audio too. Kills me.
he let a bit of his fatherhood out in this scene
🥺🥺
Starts to cry.
david got let off easy, imagine what joel would’ve done to him
He got chopped up by a machete
Can’t get more easier than that
@@VideoGameSophistry he died in the first 2 hits...pretty quick death if you ask me
@@VideoGameSophistry joel would've ripped him apart limb by limb lmao
I think Ellie just did what Joel was going to do to him
I love how they don't show David's face as Ellie smashes the machete into it. Just shots of her in a blind rage until joel shows up and she starts crying
It wasn't about David's death but how his death was the first instance of how brutal the world is and how hard she'll have to fight. Even if she's immune, people are still a sickness
Not gonna lie my first time that I played this I thought he was trying to rape her.
Still messed up either way.
I agree. I don’t love part two but I def don’t hate it. It’s funny how they do a kill in a similar way of Abby’s friend and it got such a negative reaction when it was clearly a callback to this
Facts. I've noticed in all of these zombie apocalypse shows it's the people you have to worry most about.
Not showing the gore is a technique used a lot in video games, comic books, tv, et cetera. It lets the consumer of the media visualize how messed up the scene is in their head because if they showed gore it would have to look fake because they can't show actual realistic gore.
@@ItsTeaTimeCommentary - yes! I love when scenes are left to be interpreted by the viewer. It’s what I love the most reading comics because you can just stare at the blood splattered on a character’s horrified face and you can immediately assume how bad it is.
Idk but Joel has so much more compassion in his eyes through this entire remake, it's truly amazing
So much for "NAUGHTY DOG HATES JOEL THEY THINK HE'S EVILLLL"
@@knowledgeanddefense1054 Right?! That whole parade was dumb from the get go. People genuinely thought they would make him appear more "evil" in the remake. So ridiculous. The internet never fails to amaze me.
@@knowledgeanddefense1054
I mean, I think there is definitely a case to be made for TLOU Part II going out of its way to keep Joel in the wrong regarding Part I's ending.
Part I presents the hospital sequence as *very* morally dubious all around.
The Fireflies are thinking of the "greater good", but what they're doing is underhanded, treacherous and all around despicable. They're trying to murder an unconscious, unwitting child for a cure that may or may not work based on their track record, and when Joel so much as objects they threaten to kill him too.
On Joel's end, he has every right to be angry at the Fireflies, and you get why he's trying to stop them. He loves Ellie and sees her as worthy of keeping alive. But he's choosing to ignore the "greater good", and he betrays Ellie's trust just as much as the Fireflies by lying to her.
Naughty Dog's problem in Part II is glossing over all of that moral ambiguity for the sake of making Joel look worse.
Ignoring how messed up the Fireflies actions were, and putting all the blame on Joel. Not once is the narrative allowed to question them. Not once does Ellie ponder on how Marlene and the others didn't ask her consent on the matter, how they were just going kill her like *that.* And not once is Joel allowed to point any of this out to Ellie.
No, it's all his fault. He's the bad guy, no questions asked. No nuance, no moral greyness. Joel bad, Fireflies good.
Were people paranoid and angry in the leadup to this remake? Yes.
But let's not pretend Naughty Dog's record on handling Joel was spotless.
@@MrImastinker Meanwhile, actual Part II: dedicates an entire segment into showing how great of a dad Joel is
Also, the whole "cute may not have worked" thing is a lie people like you came up to make Joel look better and the proof is that he himself didn't question it and neither did Marlene despite both having personal incentives to keep Ellie alive through reason.
"Not once were the fireflies questioned"-*cut to Owen comparing them to the seraphites and the now dead soldier in that mesuem sequence (the one you like to convinently ignore in order to push a marrative that Part II vilified Joel) writing about the horrors he committed in his service to them on the walls*
@@knowledgeanddefense1054
I'm not talking about Owen's service and the backstory included.
I'm talking about the Fireflies' actions at the hospital, where they readied to perform a lethal surgery on a child without getting her informed consent, after a history of failed tests.
Her immunity may very well have provided the key to a cure, as per the recordings left behind, but (in my opinion at least) their track record makes it just a little uncertain.
Whatever else the rest of Part II does with Joel, his outings with Ellie or his intervening on her behalf at the dance, my point stands that Part II treats what *he* did at the hospital as flat-out wrong while leaving aside how much the Fireflies were *also* to blame by their betrayal.
Look at how it's framed in Part II. We see the aftermath of Joel rescuing Ellie portrayed as this bloody, nightmarish rampage, and Joel enters the operating room visually framed as this menacing, remorseless killer out for blood.
Even though in Part I, those of us who played the game know that Joel has spent the entire time being hunted down by soldiers ordered to shoot him on sight. And from the start, Marlene had threatened to kill him if he did anything to stop the operation.
Again, the dialogue and framing of Part II emphasizes Joel's ruthlessness at the hospital, while whitewashing why he was so pissed off.
Jerry himself is a character retroactively introduced into the plot, and designed to try and elicit sympathy. But his actions and self-righteous justifications make him, in my opinion, far *less* sympathetic.
All these plot points in Part I considered, would it really have been so bad for Part II to present a real argument on the subject? Have Joel tell Ellie *everything?* Stubborn and dogged as he is, I think it would have been more in character for him to dig his heels in, as opposed to just wilting and leaving out some pretty key details.
And on Ellie's side of things, she says in Part II that she would have been okay with it but the fact remains that Marlene, Jerry and friends *didn't ask her.* They just went ahead with the procedure.
Worse, Ellie was unconscious in the first place because she'd almost drowned. The Fireflies were going to let her last conscious thoughts be fear, pain, and desperation.
That's... really fucked up. And Part II doesn't take that into consideration. Instead, Ellie is written to direct *all* of her anger at Joel.
All in all, Part II just feels so... contrived, and disingenuous at times. Like, I get what Naughty Dog was trying to do, I get the story they wanted to tell.
I just don't think it worked.
That "He tried to", fucking goes through me every time. We all know what david was about to do but the way Ashley Johnson delivers that line just cuts me to my core.
I don't think I figured it out when I first played the game, until now that I saw "cannibal" in the title O_O
@@inigoyutangco467 well eat her yes.. but he was about to rape her.
I do need some confirmation here. I thought he was gonna rape her, but since 'cannibal' in the title was he gonna eat her? Because he said "you have no idea what I'm capable of"
@@Madmaia555 he was gonna rape her. ellie knew david was a cannibal
According to Abby fans; Joel should have just let David m*lest and eat Ellie. Because the “cycle of violence and revenge” is stupid; so Joel should have just left Ellie right?
Watching this after HBO's last episode, and I can't get over how heartbreaking and painful this scene is. Bella Ramsey did an excellent job, she killed it (literally).
As a hardcore game fan, i prefer the show version. It felt more realistic and animalistic to me.
I would preferred that they added that joel finds ellie killing him and not outside, everything else was brilliant 🙌🏼
@@ciscofran05 i don't mind it, i'm sure they had their reasons. Safety concerns for one, also better lighting and more space for cameramen. I think the change worked fine personally.
That was so heartbreaking and I couldn't hold back tears.
@@ciscofran05 totally agree also was a little sad they didn't put the guitar in blurring out some of the sound really added to the "blind rage" some people talk about here.
This scene always gets me. When Joel embraces her and those acoustics start, man. This game is an experience.
Almost like Sarah
Nope
Agreed
Too bad they fucked it up in part 2
I can still enjoy the original as a standalone though.
@@hannesgreen638 the sequel was just as good as the first.
shut up, kid.
I was telling someone about this scene and was getting choked up trying to describe it. She went from cargo to "baby girl". This series is just filled with so many incredible moments.
Joel went from, "you ain't my daughter..."
To, "...baby girl"
The amazing part is how Ellie proves to be the exact opposite of a damsel in distress as shown here. She manages to fight off David as well as zombies with nothing but her skills without Joel’s help. She may be just a 14 year old, but she has developed amazing survival skills and fought off many enemies that would probably maul her. That’s what makes her a truly memorable character.
YES THIS!!!!!! We (meaning me and other women) don't care for stories of princessies saving the prince.
We want stories of The princess saving herself! Worst feeling ever is when people think you cant take care of yourself.
@@ionanurminen it's got nothing to do with that. Anyone in that situation would fight back- it's impossible not to. What's great about this scene is a child is put in a position that would seem 'adult' in nature but all instincts are the same. Save yourself.
@@LAWD_PEPE My point was that Im glad they didnt write it so that Joel is always fighting to save her. That she is capable of fighting and protecting herself.
@@ionanurminen agree 100%. Very often do they put children front and center in the zombie or survival stories and only put them in situations where the adults NEED to come to the rescue. Then when there's no adult, very likely they end up dead. In the REAL world if children were really put front and center in these situations it's much more likely they'll adapt and become very good survivalists. Just like Ellie here, or clementine in twd. Hell, we can even add little Arya Stark to the list (different universe, same concept)
@@ionanurminen unfortunately in real circumstances women tend to always rely on others (not everyone but more than the majority)
I still can’t believe the guy who voices David is the same guy who does Nathan drake. Guy is very talented with his voice.
Yeah and the Penguin in the Arkham series: he's so talented!
@@thebatman129 also Dr Edward Richtofen in the call of duty zombies (treyarch) series
@@alexgutierrez2506 WHAT?! You’re kidding really?!
@@jk-474 he also voices Deadpool in a lot of Marvel media as well.
Nolan North corrext
and still after so many years, the music from santaolalla still hits with the same force of emotion in this one scene
ye
the music and the voice acting are the one thing they didn't have to remake because they were already perfect
would be a different game without him
the music really elevates this scene imo. i definitely felt like the show version was missing it :(
They did a really good job capturing this moment in the show. Only difference is I wished Joel found her inside like the game, but the scene on TV was just as intense like the game for me.
I actually liked that he found her outside. I felt like it was nice to have their moment outside not feel rushing by the fire or anything.
I like the outside version, it's an even more horrific thing to find for Joel as he has no idea what happened, just a shell-shocked Ellie giving a thousand yard stare. It gave us more time to see the sheer trauma she's suffering from this encounter
The restaurant was actually on fire so they had to go outside to finish it so they didn’t burn 😅 great adaptation though I love it.
@@jacobm6617 Was this rushed at all? No. You copy and paste the same thing over and over so you're probably lying anyway.
@@CrackerJack06 wait what? No it wasn’t rushed that’s what I’m saying. Because they were outside it didn’t have to be rushed cuz there was no fire around them. Copy and pasting? What are you talking about
Just wanted to see how the last scene looks in the remake and now I got tears in the eyes, the facial expressions and lighting make it so much more powerful than in the original
it looks the same tho
@@ongobongo8333 disagree, Ellie’s face in this game while she’s being caressed by Joel compared to the original makes it so much more realistic, she looks absolutely broken mentally and emotionally.
@@ongobongo8333 your memory is playing tricks on you.
The power of PS5.🔥
This entire scene is going to be wild when it gets to this in the show. I can’t wait
Samee!
İn which episode do you think it will be ? İ didn't played the game so i dont know much about it
@@kubrabayazan8025 maybe like one of the last few episodes? Kinda makes sense cause it was pretty close to the end! :)
@@kubrabayazan8025 I'm gonna guess 6 or 7, because 4 will probably only be in what originally was Pittsburgh but in the show will be Kansas City. Guessing 5 will mainly if not entirely focus on meeting back up with Tommy, maybe they'll get to the Colorado State University. 6 will probably focus on the earlier of winter, probably will be the episode where we see the left behind story play out (which the left behind episode is also believed to be the one episode Neil Druckman directed) and then I'm guessing episode 7 will focus on the main game winter (including this scene). I am guessing 8 might be a new story or perhaps Joel and Ellie making their way to the end of season 1s location. Perhaps Episode 9 will show us a bit of Abby too, guessing it'd probably start out with the water scene or episode 8 will end with that scene. (I don't consider this spoilers as everything is just vague enough to not give away the story)
@@morninmichigan1824 thank you 🥰
By not having Joel be the one to stop Ellie in the show, they ruined the most emotional scene of the game. It's not the same having him comfort her long after she killed David, when they're already outside of the burning building, out of danger, and she has already mostly calmed herself down. In the show Joel doesn't even know what he's comforting Ellie for, as he didn't just witnessed a man try to rape her before she brutally murdered him and maimed his corps. All Joel in the show saw was Ellie stumbling out of a burning building.
While I agree it doesn’t have the same effect as this clip did I don’t think it was necessarily bad. The show let Ellie stab him until she had gotten all her anger out and was comfortable enough to stop, she goes out right after and I don’t think there’s much time for her to process between the two scenes and Joel not knowing what happened but seeing that she’s scared and traumatized was enough for him to hold her and tell her it’s gonna be alright. I like it for that I think it shows how close of a bond they have.
I couldn’t agree more with this comment! Removed ALL the tension and emotion from the scene for me, just felt SO off compared to the game even though it’s double the amount of stabs. When 11 feels MORE brutal and emotional than 22, you’ve edited / changed the scene for the worse. SHOULD’VE went with the 22 stabs, THE had Joel pull her off and continue the scene like it was in the game down to the guitar riff and the camera pan to the machete handle
This scene is why I’ll never feel bad for what Joel did to the fireflies.
No one hurts Ellie. Ever.
You ever play that bloater fight in the second game? Joel killed it with two hits after it grabs Ellie’s face and almost tored her apart. He’s a walking menace lol
@StarShipGray yep agreed 100% percent.💯🔥🔥🔥🔥.
Nah, Joel was selfish in that scene. He knew Ellie wanted the fireflies to find a cure more than anything. And yet he stopped them and forced ellie to be his “daughter” even tho their “father daughter” relationship is clearly one-sided for joel.
@@florasliai wanna know what shit is this guy on
@@floraslia Just shows how different perspective is for everyone.
In the tv show I really wish they kept the final scene where Joel grabs Ellie mid-swing while emotion is at the highest. Idk why but having her leave the building and the emotional peak subsides.. Joel finding her (while emotional of course) doesn’t hit as hard as it should imo.
i definitely agree, i think the fact that they didn’t use the all gone ost definitely helps it feel less impactful too imo 🙁
@@singulariteas that too!!
Wouldn't say it is less impactful, I'd just say it hits different. In the show no one is stopping Ellie's rage she just keeps going till she's exhausted. Then when Joel finds her she doesn't "confess" she doesn't break, she stays stoic looking the emptiness. So as the game would show us a strong and emotional moment the show wanted to show us darkness, distress. I'm sure they'll do something with this change, that it is important for their character developpement
Her killing David in the show was a amazing scene tho, the scream in Bella ramsays voice was unmatched. I’m just glad they’re not absolutely butchering the show. It’s Been good so far
@@Absence00 oh don’t get me wrong I’m very impressed with the show so far. Every episode Pedro and Bella keep me locked in. I’m just picky cause tlou (the game) means a lot to me. :’)
Them removing the song from the show really took the wind out of the sails from what would’ve been a perfect scene
I like how they don't show David's face in the end, like you don't want to see what Ellie had done
I’ve seen what happens to a face when a machete hits it, yeah nah, I don’t wanna see that again.
@@Cxncubine Where u see that?
@@AyrtonPA internet
also that ELLIE probably wasnt really looking at what she was doing - it forces you to feel her rage, as she does, rather than observing the action
@@AyrtonPA deepgoretube, alivegore, seegore etc
Who’s here after the episode? The actor who played David did great, also Troy Baker as his henchman was pretty cool!
I loved it
Fire episode, they changed a few things but who would want a 1:1 recreation of the game? That sounds boring as shit, I'm sure a lot of people would agree...right?
It was so weird seeing TV show Ellie kill the REAL Joel lol
Watching this after episode 8 of the show. Bella Ramsay did an incredible job, but nothing beats Ashley Johnson's performance and the video games version. The music, the delivery of the lines, the silence. Truly a masterpiece of a scene.
The music is what does it here. Same with the scene at the farm where she faces Joel. I don't know why they are so stingy with the music in the show version, it adds so much more power to these scenes. They feel empty in the show version.
So true. The music and the silence when Joel is speaking to Ellie only. Such a great part of the scene.
This is a masterpiece for all game titles. For me all construction scene and climax on game are way better than the show
Nah, this episode and scene was better in the show. Bella Ramsay and Scott Shepherd that played David killed it.
@@Eric-ui3nk It was absolutely not better than the game. Nothing beats the original.
I can’t wait to see this scene in the live action omg
there will be a live action???
@@thatnonbinaryhoe_ezra Yep, look it up.
@@thatnonbinaryhoe_ezra well the trailer has been out for some time
@@thatnonbinaryhoe_ezra Hbo tv show, there's a trailer already
@@TacoSupremo i'll watch it for sure
This may make you cry. What made me cry was when Joel was impaled and then falling off the horse - with Ellie saying "You have to tell me what to do. You gotta' get up." THAT was the saddest part to me.
I think the only thing the show did wrong, was that Joel didn't stop Ellie and comfort her inside the place.
Eh, the building was on fire and David had locked the doors. I'm OK with it being outside.
YES! He didnt seen what Ellie did with David. I like these scenes in the show, ive got more feelings while watching this than in-game. Her cry was heartbreaking. But they kind of ruined this for a little because of the final scene. It has to be inside like the way the game did, also Joel was too silent here. But excepting that, the episode was 10/10.
@@etharchildres3976 Spoken like a person who don't really care about the storyline lol. The whole point of this scene is to deliver the part where Joel has become her father. It's supposed to be a momentum to the part he says "oh baby girl". In the show it ruined that pacing lol
@@PaladinCape spoken like a person who bitches about everything
3:01 *gets stabbed*
David: Phew, close one!🤪
LMAOO
The blood loss was starting to get to him, I guess. XD
When boss get the first stab on their head: It's nothing
They still messed up the sound effect were Joel pulls Ellie off which sounds like the machete falling to the ground… but then the camera pans to the upright machete lol
Seriously thought they’d fix that.
Now i wont be able to un hear it know that you mention that
I actually had no problem with it because movies do that sometimes
it sounds fine to me tho
Haha think it’s the sound of it dropping
it’s been revealed that Joel tells Ellie “ i’m never gonna leave you again, you understand?” under the music.
EEEKKKKKK OH MY GOD i love joel i hope he doesnt die getting golfed by abby💗💗
@@madaminji Uhhh...
@@Bubba4827whats wrong???
David looks so much more menacing now,even in the beginning where he's trying to be friendly with Ellie you can see how absolutely terrifying he looks when he delivers lines
Who's here after watching the episode?
🤚🏻
That "Joel" is so impactful of hitting us right in the feelings, ellie acted out of desperation to prevent being raped & murdered, she was scared & frightened and in that moment she needed Joel and he was there for her. The most heartbreaking scene of the entire game!
I just realized when the sound is cut off at the end it's just music, that's to signify a massive amount of distress
and the when the camera goes back to the knife... so well done. I think the directing in the show is a bit janky IMO.
they should've played the same soundtrack in the show .. its distorted in the game when ellie is killing david and the music slowly get back to normal when joel finds her and she realizes its him
this detail was so good, also the way ellie says " joel... "
I hope Bella can pull of scenes like this, it will be what really sells her on being Ellie, the character isn't just about swearing and making remarks.
This right here!!
I'm curious and will be probably surprised if this part makes it to the series.
Would be stupid if it doesn't, it's a big character development moment for them both
True, but still they can change it to adapt it for TV.
It'll have vibes of Rick Grimes killing those rapey bikers to save Carl's life in the walking dead
2:13 Small thing but I like how David missed his shot in this version. In the original, he just unloads 3 rounds into Ellie but they just clip through.
Lol yeah i remember thinking I messed up and she was about to die the way Ellie just lays there looking up. Him conveniently missing 3 point blanks used to break my immersion every time I did this fight
don’t think i can EVER watch this scene without crying . ever .
Ok 💀
@@Schinzo__?
You can just feel the hopeless love Ellie has for Joel as he cradled her face, like a father should to his scared child. All she ever wants is someone to care about her. Wipe her tears away. Hold her when she feels scared, weak, helpless. She finally has that. It didn’t matter how Joel got there or what he was saying to her, all that mattered was that he’s with her.
The show version was far more extreme, she kept hitting David until she was too tired. No one was there to hold her back.
the way she said "joel" has me crying every time, my poor baby
I don’t really see people talking about it so i’m wondering if we all understand the implications that David is more than just a cannibal right?
he had different intentions with her, I realized when Joel was torturing that goon and he referred to her as "David's new pet"
He was clearly a predator in more ways than one.
That's exactly what I thought, why isn't anyone commenting on it?! That makes David one of the most terrifying enemies in The last of us. See his transformation from lamb to wolf, although his kindness caused more terror.
I must be very thick because I still don't get the rapist vibe from David at all. Yes, one of his guys said "David's newest pet" and that probably settles it, but if I have to base my judgement on David's behaviour alone, I'd just call him a scary, double-faced, sadistic cannibal. I mean, he had repeatedly tried to shoot and stab her, and in the final seconds it quite simply (and terrifyingly enough) looks like he's trying to strangle her to death. I can't take any other hints.
@@chapswick he very actively tries to keep her alive and forbids his goons to do anything to her untill the point he touches her hand and she breaks his fingers
In the original version, you can read Joel's lips enough to see him say "I'll never leave you again, do you understand?" before Ellie nods.
You can't see it as much here, though Ellie still nodding makes me think it's still the same.
The David fight was done justice but Ellie and Joel's reunion in the game takes it easily. Still, can't wait for the last episode!
They did an amazing job in the series, the guy who played David did an excellent job.
Fun fact: David in the show is actually Troy Baker he is the cameo character
@@Crayveee Wrong, Troy Baker is the guy that get killed by Ellie when tries to make soup of Ellie
@@sjohn-9655 Yeah you're right
After watching more stuff about episode 8 I realized my mistake but I couldn't find this comment back to fix it
Eh I think he was miscast. Seriously, not everyone can do an excellent job lol. Quit riding the show so hard
@@poordude2175 well we love it, sad to see you don't but that ok.
One thing they are lacking though are the infected.
Honestly idk what they were thinking not having Pedro rip Ellie off of David dead body that whole part makes the scene that much more emotional especially for Joel that was a rather large part that I wished would've been in the show not sure why they changed it
It hits different when Joel says baby girl to Ellie😢
Jesus Christ when she kills him it looks amazing, love the colors and the fire
Ain't forking over $70 though
Thought I was the only one
@@extincttv7082 your not everyone is crying about the price of ps5 games rn
@@extincttv7082 Why the hell would you think you were the only one
What do you mean forking?
Lmao same
It was at this moment Joel had decided that Ellie’s life was more important to him than the whole world.
Correct, everyone trying to justify his actions because they want him to be a cookie cutter hero who did the right thing completely misunderstand the storytelling here. He simply chooses her because she matters to him, the nameless millions a vaccine would save do not. He makes the human choice.
Who told you that? Joel?
@@UnGodlyDevilish … did you play the game with your eyes closed? That was the WHOLE REASON joel killed the fireflies, because he decided ellie’s life was more important than the cure because it meant killing her.
I consider myself somewhat of an old-fashioned manly man who doesn't cry easily, but being a father of two teenage daughters, this scene broke me, especially when Joel holds her and goes, "Oh, baby girl..."
All the pent up grief from Sarah's death earlier in the game finally spilled over.
Neil Druckmann, you magnificent bastard.
I noticed that ND really does like the whole cat and mouse aspect for TLOU. However, I like this more than Abby vs Ellie, not because Abby vs Ellie is bad (because its not) but because when we're playing as Abby, we know exactly what Ellie is capable of and what she'll do if she finds Abby. With David we don't. We don't know what he can do or much about him. He's an evil force that leaves much to the imagination. Makes the whole thing much more scary. Plus with Ellie vs Abby we know both girls are pissed at each other and want the other to die for revenge. With Ellie vs David, Ellie is killing for survival and is scared while doing it. David is just insane
Really great analysis! I'm surprised I didn't make the connection.
Damn bro that impressive
Who's Abby? The Last of us is a single game, there's no Sequel. THERES NO SEQUEL!!!!
@@zipkip4996 Jesus christ this is just sad.
I greatly preferred Ellie's boss fight due to both her boss arena and the much wider variety of attacks and traps she had versus David, who, comparatively, only had gunfire and his insta-kill machete. Ellie's fight feels more like the advanced version of David's, both great, but hers has a lot more bells and whistles to make it more fun and challenging for me.
This scene hits so much harder because of the music… wish they utilised it more in the show
They have been using Pt2 music quite a bit. This scene in the HBO show ended with what was basically Abby’s Loss/Beach Fight theme.
The correct music theme here runs more closely to the Joel/Sarah parallel and is much more powerful as the Daughter theme.
@@BusinessDog2000 facts
@@BusinessDog2000 do you know the name of the music in game when ellie kills david ?
@@dreadfuljack2694”All Gone (Reunion)”
Idk why but I liked the hug itself weyyy more in the remaster
But the emotion on their faces… wow.
I think it’s the darker colors which made it feel much more sad
It’s the lighting.
The lighting here looks fantastic don’t get me wrong, but in the original the moment and scene were much darker and colder feeling, but everything is so bright here that it removes all the darkness from the scene, and it’s a really dark moment, it just doesn’t feel right. Everything else in the game I think looks great, but they really dropped the ball with this one particular scene. It’s not bad by any means, but the lighting just does not match tone wise to the events that are taking place.
@@Sev3617 Also when Joel is carrying Ellie away in the firefly hospital. They made the sirens way to loud and ruined the music
@@Pedro_Le_Chef yeah, but if I had to guess I imagine that could be tweaked by either editing the audio settings or naughty dog could potentially patch it.
@@Pedro_Le_Chef you can edit the sound levels
this was way better than the show joel grabbing ellie outside the house instead of inside is such a weird decision just made it have less impact
They may have thought that having that moment in there with the fire still going and spreading would be a bit silly in live action. Like a lot of people would be like "Hug her outside Joel!" Although this is just a theory
I disagree
@@MrBulldog714 could easily be rectified by ellie being almost dragged outside fighting on the way out to see its just joel
@@slavko7898 That could definitely work
Even after everything she went through, it was that very exact moment that she left her childhood behind, that moment of pure brutality meant so much for her
i love how david has a splint on his finger from when ellie broke it 😂
The game makers at Naughty Dog did their job just a liiiiiittle too fucking well.
I keep rewatching this thinking I won't tear up THIS time and I just keep proving myself wrong.
The graphics, the music, the actors, the dialogue, the characters, FUCK.
The Last of Us is truly phenomenal
Bro the way she says “Joel” in that vulnerable needing voice breaks me. Every time I hear it.
I always find it funny on how David just touch the infected bite mark, like he think it’s just make up 😂
I genuinely don't know how he was going to disprove the bite lmao, it literally had the fungus growing around it already.
Maybe he was just trying to convince himself.
Ellie murdered David’s face
Do makeups still exist in 2033?
Just coming back after they masterfully did this whole scene basically shot for shot in the show!
This is literally how any remake should be and I was discussing this with my friend like they remake all of these good franchises and make them terrible when all they need is better graphics
We need ocorina of time remake bro
Unless it’s like resident evil where the gameplay is outdated it should stay the same
What are you talking about? The remake makes the game worse. 😂
@@jimmycevallos4468 in what way
Personally, I'm not a fan of the remake, everyone's faces look eerily uncanny. And Ellie looks older than she is, like they tried to go for more facial expressions and small details here and make Ellie look more like her Part 2 version and it just, doesn't look right to me.
That is hands down the greatest scene in video game history. Joel embracing Ellie as their voices fade out and the music playing beautifully in the background. Literally gives me goosebumps everytime.
Not even close
And they couldn't even get it right in the show
@Pedro lechef You think so? I personally think they did it pretty well, although I'll admit watching this is what brought me to tears.
I am gonna be fucking ballin when this scene comes up in the show.
I’m not convinced Bella will be able to pull it off but we’ll see I guess.
this so real
🏀
@@robcosta4186 Of course she'll pull it off (and do a great job) she was cast as Ellie over every other amazing actress for a reason
I loved how he hugged her an said baby girl
This is so much better than what we got in the show. Aren't even comparable
You cannot compare as if they were the same. Just be glad that they did a close and great job adapting this scene and the "its okay baby girl" c'mon now
@@mikeslife2916 I can't help myself, they fuck so many things up. I just watched this scene from the series with the original soundtrack mixed onto it and it made it 1000 times better. Still not as good as the original but really close.
I just don't understand why they don't use the game's music. The OST was perfect and it made every scene a lot better. And they barely use the songs in the show.
@@bajszosjozsef4850 I definitely agree with u with the music maybe it's the way they changed the scene with joel and ellie in the steakhouse I don't know maybe in another lifetime they'd change it but it was totally fine and not changed the overall impact of the scene.
Damn why did they have to change the way Joel stopped Ellie, this was scene was perfection…..
Because it wasn’t very realistic for them to have a heartfelt moment in the middle of a burning building, Joel wouldn’t have wasted another minute getting out of there. they talked about it in the podcast
@@NinToby yeah don't forget the part where david trying to rap3 ellie in burning building too
@@AL74L what about it?
@@NinToby realistic aspect
@@AL74L no I’m saying it wasn’t realistic for JOEL to waste time in the burning building, David didn’t care about Ellie’s safety
Ten years later, this scene still warms and breaks my heart
... 💔
Just realized the last shot when Joel took Ellie away was the same as Tommy taking Ellie away from aquarium in Part 2
Yeah nice observation, and when tommy calls out ellies name, it sounds like joels voice
Sorry hbo fans but the game knocked it out of the park with this scene. The TV show was ok but this, this was a masterpiece. The way Ellie sobs "he tried to..." And "Joel" alongside the acoustics. The TV show lacked that emotional moment, but that's just like, my opinion man
Or we can enjoy both versions maybe? Just watched the hbo episode and was so great adapted
@@SuperDuperAlvaroagain, it's just my opinion. But I liked the TV show as well, the actress was superb, the way she was screaming in despair when David was about SA her was so well acted
this is one of the biggest turning points for both characters. Joel starts to view Ellie as his own blood. While Ellie loses a modicum of her innocence. This results in both of these characters purposes conflicting. Joel needs Ellie in his life to fill his empty heart while, Ellie needs the vaccine to exist for humanity to come back again after her horrible experience with David. The thought that a creepy, old and decrepit man could cause both of these characters to change so much.
Just came from the tv series and this version always hits the heart strings
Bill earlier in the game: "However bad those things are, at least they're predictible. It's normal people that scare me, you should already know that".
fun fact when Joel's talking but we cant hear it he says "I won't ever leave you again"
1:15 been years and I just realized that was a whole human hanging.
You thought it was a deer or something?
Whos here after watching episode 8? LoL
I feel like this will likely be in the show bc in the trailer Pedro’s Joel is holding Ellie’s face just like at 6:15 - 6:20
Kinda wish the shows adaptation was more faithful to this.
Rather than her escaping first and then Joel finding her.
Just the fact Joel has to rip Ellie off David and calm her down and comfort her with the adrenaline going. Then, the reassuring words being given with the music covering them up just made the games version so much more emotional.
Joel: Baby girl
Kratos: Close your heart to it
I can't fully explain it, but I think the game handled the scene better than the show. The reunion between Ellie and Joel in the show felt kinda lacking. I wish Joel had been in the burning cabin to stop Ellie's ruthless stabs, and Ellie's fearful lashing out only to realize it was him, then to start crying and whimper, "He tried to--" as Joel comforts her, was way more powerful in the game than Ellie just walking out of the cabin and being found by Joel seemingly by coincidence. I'd understand if they changed it because they thought it wasn't realistic to have the two characters temporarily stay in a burning building talking to each other and potentially inhaling the fumes and smoke, but it just seemed to me like they had Ellie walk out by herself to make her seem stronger, like she doesn't need Joel to stop her or something? I don't know. I could be wrong.
I also wish we could have seen Joel noticing the restaurant going up in flames while in the blizzard. I also liked the night-ish setting in the game, as the shot of the flames from the burning restaurant among the thick wind and snow as Joel approached the scene was great. I also kinda missed the chase scene with Ellie killing the guys pursuing her, but I think it makes sense that they cut the chase sequence as it would have made the episode go on longer, so they needed to condense it.
In general, Ellie in the show has just felt (for the most part) not as vulnerable as she is in the game to me. I don't know if its the acting or the script or the directing. That said, Bella Ramsey does have her moments and she was great in this episode. I just think she was better in Game of Thrones.
I agree, I feel like they made Ellie already independent and more snarky than in the game, I was hoping Joel was gonna see the building and go for it not just randomly find her outside even making a sound. It felt more impact full when he said "oh babygirl" and pulled her in for the hug rather than "it's okay babygirl" and just looked at her till see hugged him, just felt not so genuine!
the show i think is forgetting what is most important to the last of us - joel and ellies bond. in the show they want to develop ellies violence which is why joel doesnt pull her off david, while in the game they were more focused on the love these two had for each other and joel being there for her in that moment
not really.
When he called her baby girl. That was one of the most happiest and emotional I ever felt in this game.
Everyone came because of the last episode, it was such a scene
The way Joel says "oh baby girl" just breaks my heart, it's exactly what he used to call Sarah
Who’s here after Sundays episode ?
Why is it still hurt so much after all this years 😭
I think there is legitimate subtext in the Last of Us which suggests that David would have s**ually a*saulted Ellie in this scene. (I'm putting stars there because I don't see anyone in the comments talking about this even though it seems like a plausible possibility + UA-cam is known for censoring certain triggering words.)
When David talks to Ellie after capturing her (when she's in the cage, not in this scene), he doesn't just come across as creepy. He comes across as attempting to groom her.
Ellie wakes up locked in a cage and sees one of David's friends chop a person to pieces and prepare their meat for consumption. Then (as if playing good cop), David comes in and softly speaks with her. He gives her food, says she's special, + holds her hand.
Through doing this, David's subtext to Ellie is "If you want to survive, you'll have to become mine" (That's the least disgusting way I could think of wording that, sorry). This is further reinforced by what David actually says in their conversation. He states that his group will do what it takes to survive + HE KNOWS that she is capable of doing that too.
Of course Ellie breaks his finger, but a different girl scared out of her mind + focused on survival might have taken that unspoken manipulative offer.
Okay, back to this video.
In a vacuum, holding someone down and saying "you can try begging" + "you have no idea what I am capable of" is a pretty big indicator that an SA might happen. To me this added context makes it almost certain.
In the cage, David tried to manipulate Ellie into doing what he wanted. Since he couldn't do that, he's decided to just take what he wants. These aren't all of his intentions with Ellie, he likely would also kill her brutally or leave her to burn the fire (Jesus Christ this gets darker the more I think about it).
Now I have a few ideas as to why this isn't more explicitly stated in the game
1.
"Show not tell" provides a better experience for the audience. I cobbled together all of this evidence to support my reading, but during my first play through, I subconsciously pieced together David's intentions + felt absolute horror wash over me in this scene.
I mashed triangle more desperately than I had done at any other part of the game.
The feelings I experienced from this scene were incredibly intense, and I don't know if I would have felt the same if those SA-ey pieces of dialogue weren't given in that exact moment.
2.
The Last of Us is a masterpiece, but it's also a third person shooter video game about a zombie apocalypse. I know the box says M for Mature, but Naughty Dog knew 10 years olds were going to play this (hell I was only 14 when it came out). Being more explicit could have lead to kids having some uncomfortable conversations with their parents, possibly leading to press backlash, and even The Last of Us being labeled as "the SA game". Providing subtext of attempted grooming + SA makes this possibility less likely.
Another point showing that this is a wholly different type of violence is her reaction.
Ellie is not inexperiened when it comes to life or death situations. After she first leaves Boston with Joel, soldiers immediately try to murder her. When the soldiers are killed inches from her face she's shocked (saying "I thought we'd just hold them up or something!") but pretty quickly bounces back to her usual self.
When she first has to kill someone to save Joel, she's shocked (stating "I really shot the hell out of him, huh?") but bounces back to her usual self after an argument.
A whole season after her encounter with David, it's clear her demeanor has changed.
Joel can try cheering her up by excitedly pointing out their surroundings like she usually does, but it's no use. She's muted and dazed, like her love of life and innocence has been sucked out of her body.
and it's FUCKING heartbreaking
The game even makes you stop a click time event so you HAVE to notice her change in behavior.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to (and also dreading) how they do this scene in the HBO show. Judging by how good the first episode was, I'm sure they'll make me feel as intensely as I did when I played it.
Wow, you've reached the same point few people have. And precisely, David by far is a psychopath and cannibal. Very well deduced your comment, in the story they leave something confusing about the intentions from David, because as you mention, a lot of kids would play this game. But of course it is evident that David was in sheep's clothing with Ellie, who is no fool. But it is curious to think that another frightened girl, she would succumb to her desires of him; he wanted to do what we know with her, and then disappear her in a worse way, to later be Food. How creepy, not even the clickers have been as creepy as this character.
Tldr: yes he was a pedo
No need for a 5 thousand words essay
I think ths emotional state of Ellie in Salt-Lake-City whas that not because of David, She was quiet and thoughtfu because the road is close to the end, and joel might leave her or something, is future that both of they cant see or imagine.
Joel says that to, He says it's too quiet today, not as usual, but when they meet giraffe`s she's emotional conditions is change. And let's don't forget about time, betwen winter and simmer (might be december-april) is few months, BUT Joel noticing is only now, at That DAY
But i sill all agree with you, i end this game one day ago, finally, i wait it more than 8 years.
Big love from Russia, games can untied people from all around the world
5:50 It’s going to take some serious, award winning acting from Ramsey and Pascal to replicate this scene in the tv series. I’m looking forward to seeing how they go about it.
Edit: THEY ABSOLUTELY NAILED IT OMG!!!!!!
They're gonna change the background music and make it less impactful like they did for literally all other emotional scenes
@@abhisarsharma8376 I hope they keep the same music. Also I hope they don't cut back on the violence and brutality. The "interrogation" scene better not dissapoint.
@@ryanbrets7695 I´m here to dissapoint you, I listened to the soundtrack, it´s not the same music track, in fact they already used it in episode 5
this whole remake is a blessing, mocap and facial animations show so much soul. The way joel keeps his eyes on the first guy he interrogates after stabbing his knee, the poison in him!!! A world that took his daughter from him and a chance to channel that trauma. He wasn’t going to lose another one. And this scene and the baby girl MY GOD BRAVO DRUCKMAN
The acting was phenomenal in episode 8, bella and pedro gave this scene all the justice it deserved true heartedly. My biggest gripe is just that they didnt use the outstanding music from the game in this scene, that track is one of the best video game tracks ive heard imo so it really sucks
this part of the game was the scariest for me; not knowing where david was, knowing he was also crouching & stalking us; the cycle of hunter & prey constantly changing… it freaked me out
Anybody eles here after the latest episode?
only part of the game that actually scared me, when he pulled the machette and started full sprinting and crawling around the place at top speed straight to your location
atleast in the remaster, not remake
same scared the shit out me.
Damn it I REALLY wanted the show to match this scene. It was good! Don’t get me wrong. But when they start talking and the guitar is playing over their voices..ah! Kills me every time
Nothing will ever beat the game. But I enjoy watching the series too. It’s like a decent cover of your favorite tune.
Im disappointed that the show didn't use this song, it always gets me sobbing wherever I hear it because it's going all out of rythm when Joel tried to calm her down and then when she realizes that it's Joel and hugs her the song goes back into rythm and ahhhhh 😭😭😭 missed opportunity man.
I get chills everytime the music starts playing.
The scary this is is that if Ellie never killed David, David would’ve actually ended up r@ping her the eating her. Imagine if that happened, Joel would take action.
@@ryanbrets7695 oh ya
If honest in the first meeting David didnt want to kill Ellie.
YOU CAN THROW BOTTLES AT HIM? I’ve been playing this game since it was released, and all I’ve done is sneak around trying to get in position to stab him.
Who’s here before the episode drops?
Me
I have a very strong feeling this will be Episode 8 on the HBO show and the scene when she kills David and Joel shows up and Ellie starts crying will probably become a classic and be talked about for years to come. And then of course I really hope they keep the Giraffe 🦒 scene because it’s such a powerful moment in the game.
Fun Fact: The David's VA is actually Nolan North, who actually voices Nathan Drake from the Uncharted Series.