@@FlourgoldWizards The missing slurp power can only be achieved by increasing the drop. Gravity dredges are great by concept, but they won't work on most creeks and carrying the hose or the tubes through the forrest can be a PITA.
Add a 4" pipe maybe up to (6") to a 4" reducer down to your 2" pipe. Try a couple different lengths of the 4". That will build up the volume and probably keep the pressure higher. Good luck. 😊
I agree perhaps adding a t-connection 10 feet back from the leed end of the pipe and an extra pipe that will supply extra water pressure at the end and more suction at dredge end.
The only potential gotcha I could forsee on this is the neck-down could become a clog point. Hopefully it would move enough water to prevent it happening though!
You’re exactly right! That’s how you get high pressure water to the other end. The same principle is applied when you have a hydroelectric setup. Even if you have a small peloton wheel and a car alternator
@@MarkMarvin1983 You don't really get more pressure, that is based on height of source, what you will get if you downsize the end is more velocity. That is how a microhydro system works, more head means more psi and smaller size pipe at the outlet = more velocity.
That's one thing I love about this community, the new techniques and ideas that everybody shares. Thanks Jason. Keep digging brother! Cobbles! AFNB...🍺🍻🍺
Cute pup, looks like German shepherd pit mix to me. It's easy to see how they so easily did hydraulic mining back in the 20's and 30's just by putting a bunch of pipes together that got smaller as they went while running downhill. That setup is just begging to become a motorless pump. Something else you could try (though you don't really need to already owning sluice boxes) is running a piece of corrugated drain pipe with a T in it and putting an adapter that goes to a rectangular gutter hole. Then you can put a hopper into that hole and just shovel into that hole while the entire pipe is under water. The water flowing through it will work just like a sluice and the corrugations will act like riffles. Especially with how fine your gold always is, it'd make for a super simple setup. Something else you might try is Y-ing in a couple more pieces to your main pipe down in the last 10 feet so it can get a lot more water pushing through. The venturi effect of water pushing through should pull through the main pipe even harder. Also increasing the diameter of the pipe as you go will decrease the pressure output at the end, but will increase the overall velocity. (Odd that I know a lot about fluid dynamics huh? It's because it works a lot like exhaust :P) Oh and if you're wondering why you haven't seen a comment from me in a while after I was commenting on everything.. My back's been fucked up lately and so I started getting depressed. I want to be able to go out and do things but I can't even get out and walk the dog without ending up in serious pain.. and then I had a fight with a parent and had a small autistic meltdown and hit a stucco exterior wall three times as hard as I could sideways and busted one of the bones in my dominant hand.. so even if my back starts feeling better, I'm very limited on what I can do because as STP once said "you gotta take time with a wounded hand.." I picked up a 30 pack of beer at the store today and hurt it again. (of course I didn't get it looked at, because they would've asked questions according to my dad) So yeah, when I start getting depressed because I can't do something I want to, I don't want to watch videos about the thing that I want to go do and can't. Using a shovel right now is definitely off the table for me. Living in a den of negativity doesn't help either. Oh and on top of it, I've been writing a lot for the last week.. over 30,000 words of a story set basically in the DnD universe. :D
Awesome video Jason! I was extremely successful using a 50 ft pool flexible vacuum hose. It was 2 inches in diameter and smooth bore in the center which did not stop Gold until it hit my sluice. I was successful with less drop than what most people suggested I believe due to fast water flow. Add a diffuser at the end of the pipe to slow it before it hits your sluice similar to your screen on your beach rigbone. Cobbles!
@@FlourgoldWizards I ordered mine off of Amazon. Just make sure it specifies that it is smooth internally but still the ribbed flexible pool vacuum hose. If they make larger dimensions I’d go 4”.
I look forward to seeing you run this way again with the improvements, can’t believe the pan tipped over 😩 sorry that happened to ya … gold or no gold this was another awesome episode 👍🏼
It looks like it works very well. Awesome job and way easier on the back! I had to laugh when your pan flipped over. That has happened to me once at the beach and ounce at home. It is nice to see it apppens to others...lol. Thanks for sharing 👍
Hi Jason , I was watching how the pipe suction is working and had a thought that if you extended the pipe further up stream and the same length you have down stream and fitted a "Y" section with the flexible hose where you want to dredge to do your suction as it would act as a siphon but you would also have more water speed travelling through the pipe and also more suction. The more fall you have with the pipe the more suction Pye R squared = more suck or something like that LoL!😊The only draw back is the amount of pipe involved and the drop in elevation of the creek or stream of your chosen location , but other than that a hydraulic ram setup . Learning has the occasional curve and trying something new and challenging is what life is all about. Cheers and Cobbles Mate👍👍👍😎💨🏴☠☮☮🌈☕☕💡🔧
Jason, i think if you really want to do this I would recommend adding a 11° injector onto the suction tube maybe halfway down the length of your main line going to your sluice. I would make that injector half inch inside diameter. Tapering out to 2 inch. This would be like adding a jet log to your set up. That would give you more suction. I've done a lot of reading on these many years ago. I think it be worth your while to tinker around with this to get your most efficient set up
If i can suggest, Try 3" pipe 20' long above the suction line reduced to 2" then merg and run along suction line like a mechanical dredge! Replacing the mechanical part of a dredge with the rivers flow before the siphoning effect gets started ? Then 2" pipe like it was ! with 1 more pipe half way down like jason recomend then merging 20' before it opens up on sluthbox ! You will have 3 points of water flow obove, siphoning and below! Hope I'm not embarrassing myself? As ive never tried it myself 😊
On your way to work ? I missed this episode so I'm late , does it sound doable? Trying to replace the engine of dredge with water flow from above ? And Jason's idea should increase that ! Hope im not being ridiculous?
@@FlourgoldWizards wish i could help you carry the pipe !lol Still think all that area is big time influenced by glaciers ! and any big gold or big deposits are up (north) facing hills and at the ends of the glaciers intrusion south during the ice age ! Think glaciers scraping the gold and were would it get caught up or left, knowing how gold flows and glaciers cut the terrain? I would think a glacier hitting a hill slowly over centuries would leave gold up or on front or sides of the north face ! It could also be the north side of a drop off like an east west gorge or valley or a lake ? Boulder's on the hill even bedrock thats elevated !
You could do 3" pipe and reduce the nozzle and flex hose to 1.5" and you should have more suction power. That's definitely working with what you got. Love that setup.
Fun video! My brother in Madison got the prospecting itch from coming up and working with my 6” dredge. Now he is getting into prospecting in the lower 48, starting in WI. I’ve forwarded a lot of your videos to him to speed up his learning. Thanks for the help getting him going.
Hi Wizard….Great vid!, thx!….as a retired Chemical Process Operator, who knows a little bit about Vac process, I’m impressed! Lol!….a small suggestion u might consider, adapting something similar to a vacuum rug cleaner at the end of pipe at ur sleuth it might help with more even flow….a small strip of cloth across the end, on top, might help a bit, stop air creeping back up the pipe, plus smooth out the water flow! Hope the tips might help….Rex was my 1st dogs name, they actually look very similar….mine was the 57 varieties type!!!….I appreciate ur enthusiasm for life!!!
feel a mason's line into the tube up until it goes on the other side. Then , tie up a sponge at the top end, and go at the bottom end and pull-out the line and clear all the gravel
@@FlourgoldWizards Hi from Down Under Jason, I`m sure you would have had lots of suggestions on how to improve the awesome gravity dredge I have a simple suggestion which is at the inlet to be half of the diameter of the tube exit ,Y so the left side be it 1" the right of the Y to be also 1" this is the suction hose "Dredge" the bottom of the Y is to be 2" all the way to the sluice which will increase the suction and get more flow onto the sluice. Last suggestion I`ve seen this on powered dredges to put a rubber flap across the sluice few inches down flow to spread the water current. P.s Run it past the hard working miners for approval. 🤣😂🤣 Cheers.
I see, while you are hard at work mining those little rascals scarfed the treats! Oh, the what me? looks on those two was priceless. I hope you at least enjoyed a few liquid gold treats. A fun video and a bit of a shame about the spilled pan. It’s just nice to get out! Take care Jason and may gold shine a light on you.
Looks like you had a good time. And your gravity dredge also moved some material, cobbles to ya. It’s a lot of fun just to watch you try new stuff. I can tell you really love what you do. Great video Jason. By the way, do you think a Sasquatch stole those beef sticks??
You magical wizard you! Lol! That's awesome and pretty inventive! We totally got a kick out of your video. I hope your able to work the kinks out and make it better. Sorry your cons bucket fell over that was a bummer! Anyway, here's to more great adventures!! 😊
Your Dredge worked better than I expected. I finally finished cleaning up my beach gold 4 days of running my cube and I got exactly 1 gram . Then I cleaned up my black poison bag from you and it was exactly the same material plus some silver very pretty>
Thanks for the video Jason. Glad Rigby and Rex could get you going today to do some dredging. Looks like you had a good start on it, but sucks that your pan flipped over and that your jerky vanished. Weird.🤔 I will refrain from giving suggestions as it looks like you have enough to keep you busy until snow flies. Thank you again to the Flour Gold Wizard Team and have a great weekend. Cobbles!!🍻
Yeah! This gravity dredge concept seems great to me! In reality it’s not working up to it’s potential on this first attempt, but I really think that the potential for greatness is there. I look forward your future innovations!!
Hi J 😁 I like what your doing there, to try to eliminate those issues I would use a phenom tube at the bottom and a reducer nozzle at the top like a vacuum cleaner attachment for small spaces.
Great effort, you're back thanks you. Classifying at the nozzle is slowing everything down. classify at the sluice so the material can keep moving. Great job can't wait for more.
Great job Jason so cool never thought of that congrats on getting it to work and shoveling directly on the sluice works so much easier awesome job keep it up
Did good Jason. I think like you said larger pipes. Also I would take the time to make the pipes straight as possible, especially up and down direction so it moves the material better. Fun time for sure. I enjoyed watching, especially the pups faces showing a clear guilt trip 😂 You Two Are Looking Very Guilty! Thanks sir Peace Prospector Tripp
I really thought the pipes looked straight in the field but on video they looked ip and down 🥸 I think you’re right on the money there. Guilty faces alright…. 🐺🐺🐷🐷
@@FlourgoldWizards when I built my first dredge I had the crash box up too high and it would load up material in the hose too easily. I lowered the height a few inches and boom no more issues. 3 cents worth of my vast knowledge. I have roughly 10 cents worth in total 🤓
Tragic! I've tipped a gold pan before as well though not running that much material. It was awesome to see the gravity dredge at work though I am inspired and want to build one.
Adam is very knowledgeable glad I found his channel years ago definitely helped me find gold and he even gave me a few awesome places to play in the creek great guy.. another awesome video Jason 😎
Jason, maybe try putting a wye or two inline towards the sluice end and then use a street 45 degree elbow out of the wye to point upstream with a section or two of pipe under water feeding the wye's to create more suction. Think of it like a dredge jet log times 2 with volume rather than pressure. Should help. Otherwise larger diameter pipe would be the fix.
You started off with a gravity dredge that had a small amount of water pouring through and would have had no suction, only flow. You made a siphon dredge as soon as you lifted up the lower end of the pipe and filled the air space with water. To get more suction you need more volume. If you use a ten foot garden hose to drain a pool or a pond. It will barely have any suction at all. If you use 100 feet it will just about suck your thumb right into it. Check your states regulations. California outlawed both mechanized and siphon dredges. The slope to length ratio is key. If I remember right you need 10 feet of length for every 1 foot of drop, but double check me on that. I used a 100 foot 4 inch black smooth interior flexible drainage pipe and it worked great! Good luck. Love your videos and exuberant love of life.
I believe the reason for the back up of materials was because of the raise at the end of your pipe at the end. Similar to a "belly" in a pipe that collects sediment. I love the idea of tinkering wirh new ideas.
There's a dip in the pvc pipe causing it to load up. Just put some rocks under that section to flatten it out. With enough pipe (and water)you could gravity feed water to a highbanker. Larger pipe reduced to spray nozzle, high pressure spray bar. Change out elbow for one with smaller pipe or tubing, down to pex tube, for crevicing. You could put a garden hose adapter on the flex pipe for washing down bedrock into a low spot
@@FlourgoldWizards, and down in the bedrock cracks. I've watched them spray the loose stuff down to a low spot with a garden hose attached to the highbanker where the could get at it with the sucker then break up the hard packed stuff out of the crack with crevicing tools. The gravity pipe works both ways. Suck and blow. Of course with suck, you have to keep the pipe as flat straight as possible to keep it from plugging.
Come on over this way I'll let you run my dredge it's a DIY build with an inch and a half Keen nozzle but has some really great suction power I carry a rake with me that I extended the forks on it so I can remove all that gravel right out of my way and just deal with sand and smaller gravel two people running it could get quite a bit if you were to come out here I'd let you keep everything that we get 🤘🇺🇲⛏️
You might try adding a smaller screen to the suction Inlet, 1/4" hardwire cloth... possibly even two layers at 45 degrees to each other. That should eliminate rocks and just let the fines through.
Right on bro that awsome. If you can find a spot with more drop in the river you could actually get that bad pony ripping hard. . That's awsome. I've been wanting to try the ole gravity trick. . This video was awsome
Rex is such a HAMBONE!!!! Love the little monster paw! Please give him some luvin for me and give some to our old pal RIGBY too!!! Thanks for the really cool video. Its a neat process when you cant use a mechanical dredge.
punch plate over the top of the mate would help and i agree longer maybe 4 in flex tubing (so you can follow the stream around corners if need be) hard pipe is fine if you have 80 feet or so with smaller screen over the nozzle so the bigger rocks don't plug up the pipe. thanks for the share! stay awesome!
That looks like it might be a crackin’ setup. Among the tweeks I might suggest is adding a Venturi section of tubing between the flexible and rigid hose. It may speed up the water flow.
That's so cool 😂 maybe as an adjustment to it you could cut the bottom of a bucket off, cut a hose sized hole in that, submurge it in a hole in creek so it's all under water, have the hose going into it through the hole in the side you cut and then you kinda classify into the bucket and then it'll vaccum the material out, bit more labor intensive but we all know you're a hard working miner and it's not just the hounds doing all the work
We all have those days where an accident happens and we lose it.. i was on river after a good day. I went to grab my snuffer bottle for last pan of the day and realized to my horror that I had dropped it in the river. A while days work gone, minus the last pan I was cleaning up. 😢 like the auction dredge idea! You'll get it dialed in. Keep at it.
I love the concept. Tweak it. Check out charts of drop of elevation to drop for vacuum values. I used to use siphon tubes for irrigation in my youth and the higher the source vs. drop was imperative to flow. Good luck. I hope this helps.
Try using a sanitary T, where the t curves in to the main part, you can use the flow end for water only and the curved T end for sucking. Use the other extra hose to connect and to go further up the stream for more fall.
Simply Amazing...What about a smaller mesh screen on the in take of your suction head...? I'm sure you have thought of that. Great thoughts in your up grade of equipment.
Adapt fitting to 3” and you’ll be in bidness quick ! Always remember, a suction should be roughly half again as big as your discharge. You’ll find that sweet spot for sure ! 👍💯🔥
Iv been playing with ideas for a gravity dredge for a while now good work cant wait to see more. Couldn't really see how u set it up properly. So no point in sticking my 2 cents in with suggestions. 👍🏴⚒️
Try turning your gravity dreg into a venture vacuum. About 1/4 to 1/2 the way down your first upstream pipe, add a y duct. Make sure your y is pointed up stream. Hook your suction hose to the y. I would probably go up in pipe size also. Adapting down to your suction hose from the y.
Great job Jason. I’ve been wanting to make a gravity sluice for a while now. I tried once before but I didn’t have enough fall and I was trying to use too big and long of pipe for me to handle. I was using 50, rolls of add drainage pipe and the ridge’s were too hard to clean out. But yeah this time I’m going smooth pipe into a flexible pipe like you did.
If you run a pipe upstream, connecting with a Y to your main pipe after your suction hose. It might increase the draw on your suction. I've seen this done in the mountains, but there was much more elevation. 🤔
I'm new, but been watching for a while. I wonder if you could attach the flex hose to a modified classifier bucket. Suction hose on the bottom and many holes drilled into the sides. Then use your metal screened separate and pull the trash out. Moving more dirt faster. Another idea I had what about submerging a black ribbed drain tile. Sticking it to the ground and coming back after a few weeks , catching your sand from stream flow.
Gravity dredge is a great tool. I think if you use a Y fitting at the top of 5 lengths of pipe and add one length to the top you will get better suction and too clean out the pipe of the material. But I would use 3 inch pipe and reduce the fitting for your flex hose to 2"
Hello Flour gold Wizards, I just saw your video and an idea just occurred to me! I don't know if that would work! Try it with a normal dredge nozzle, except that the one hose that creates the negative pressure is higher up in the river, so you could possibly shorten the other side of the nozzle that leads into the sluice box and the negative pressure would then be higher. If you know what I mean.
First - Hi Jason!
Hello Oliver !!
@@FlourgoldWizards
The missing slurp power can only be achieved by increasing the drop.
Gravity dredges are great by concept, but they won't work on most creeks and carrying the hose or the tubes through the forrest can be a PITA.
Are we still doing " first " smh
@@jasonstuart9382 Yesss! 😁
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Add a 4" pipe maybe up to (6") to a 4" reducer down to your 2" pipe. Try a couple different lengths of the 4". That will build up the volume and probably keep the pressure higher. Good luck. 😊
I agree perhaps adding a t-connection 10 feet back from the leed end of the pipe and an extra pipe that will supply extra water pressure at the end and more suction at dredge end.
The only potential gotcha I could forsee on this is the neck-down could become a clog point. Hopefully it would move enough water to prevent it happening though!
Excellent idea… i just got back from Home Depot with these items 😃✅
You’re exactly right! That’s how you get high pressure water to the other end. The same principle is applied when you have a hydroelectric setup. Even if you have a small peloton wheel and a car alternator
@@MarkMarvin1983 You don't really get more pressure, that is based on height of source, what you will get if you downsize the end is more velocity. That is how a microhydro system works, more head means more psi and smaller size pipe at the outlet = more velocity.
That's one thing I love about this community, the new techniques and ideas that everybody shares. Thanks Jason. Keep digging brother!
Cobbles!
AFNB...🍺🍻🍺
Agreed, the comments are the best source for information!!!
AFNB 🇺🇸✌️✅🍻
Nothing like back woods engineering. Your idea will develop. Keep up the good work.
That's the plan!
Cute pup, looks like German shepherd pit mix to me. It's easy to see how they so easily did hydraulic mining back in the 20's and 30's just by putting a bunch of pipes together that got smaller as they went while running downhill. That setup is just begging to become a motorless pump. Something else you could try (though you don't really need to already owning sluice boxes) is running a piece of corrugated drain pipe with a T in it and putting an adapter that goes to a rectangular gutter hole. Then you can put a hopper into that hole and just shovel into that hole while the entire pipe is under water. The water flowing through it will work just like a sluice and the corrugations will act like riffles. Especially with how fine your gold always is, it'd make for a super simple setup. Something else you might try is Y-ing in a couple more pieces to your main pipe down in the last 10 feet so it can get a lot more water pushing through. The venturi effect of water pushing through should pull through the main pipe even harder. Also increasing the diameter of the pipe as you go will decrease the pressure output at the end, but will increase the overall velocity. (Odd that I know a lot about fluid dynamics huh? It's because it works a lot like exhaust :P)
Oh and if you're wondering why you haven't seen a comment from me in a while after I was commenting on everything.. My back's been fucked up lately and so I started getting depressed. I want to be able to go out and do things but I can't even get out and walk the dog without ending up in serious pain.. and then I had a fight with a parent and had a small autistic meltdown and hit a stucco exterior wall three times as hard as I could sideways and busted one of the bones in my dominant hand.. so even if my back starts feeling better, I'm very limited on what I can do because as STP once said "you gotta take time with a wounded hand.." I picked up a 30 pack of beer at the store today and hurt it again. (of course I didn't get it looked at, because they would've asked questions according to my dad) So yeah, when I start getting depressed because I can't do something I want to, I don't want to watch videos about the thing that I want to go do and can't. Using a shovel right now is definitely off the table for me. Living in a den of negativity doesn't help either.
Oh and on top of it, I've been writing a lot for the last week.. over 30,000 words of a story set basically in the DnD universe. :D
There will definitely be y-s in my updated setup, I really appreciate your input!!!
Heal up quickly!!!😃✌️🐺🍻
Awesome video Jason!
I was extremely successful using a 50 ft pool flexible vacuum hose.
It was 2 inches in diameter and smooth bore in the center which did not stop Gold until it hit my sluice.
I was successful with less drop than what most people suggested I believe due to fast water flow.
Add a diffuser at the end of the pipe to slow it before it hits your sluice similar to your screen on your beach rigbone.
Cobbles!
I’m definitely looking gor some different flexible hose !!!
@@FlourgoldWizards I ordered mine off of Amazon. Just make sure it specifies that it is smooth internally but still the ribbed flexible pool vacuum hose. If they make larger dimensions I’d go 4”.
I just love how he sort of dances while he talks with his hands. Love you brother. ❤👏🏻👍🏻❤
Gotta get into it….🤣 🕺
I look forward to seeing you run this way again with the improvements, can’t believe the pan tipped over 😩 sorry that happened to ya … gold or no gold this was another awesome episode 👍🏼
It landed in 10” of black muck….🤢
Me too,p.s.dont fill pan of water from sluice run off
Rex is well behaved for a pup. Usually they would run off exploring and he stays close by. Rigbone is still the top dog though.
Rex is definitely taking after the mine boss. !!!!
cant run off into the woods when you"re full of jerky! @@FlourgoldWizards
It looks like it works very well. Awesome job and way easier on the back! I had to laugh when your pan flipped over. That has happened to me once at the beach and ounce at home. It is nice to see it apppens to others...lol. Thanks for sharing 👍
That dang pail sat there for 10 minutes!!! I no more than turned to go film the pan and it magically tipped over 🤣🤣🤣🤣✅🍻
I just seen a small ginseng plant the other gold of Wisconsin
Nice !
Hi Jason , I was watching how the pipe suction is working and had a thought that if you extended the pipe further up stream and the same length you have down stream and fitted a "Y" section with the flexible hose where you want to dredge to do your suction as it would act as a siphon but you would also have more water speed travelling through the pipe and also more suction. The more fall you have with the pipe the more suction Pye R squared = more suck or something like that LoL!😊The only draw back is the amount of pipe involved and the drop in elevation of the creek or stream of your chosen location , but other than that a hydraulic ram setup . Learning has the occasional curve and trying something new and challenging is what life is all about.
Cheers and Cobbles Mate👍👍👍😎💨🏴☠☮☮🌈☕☕💡🔧
My next version will definitely look like what you’re describing!! 😃✅🐺
Jason, i think if you really want to do this I would recommend adding a 11° injector onto the suction tube maybe halfway down the length of your main line going to your sluice. I would make that injector half inch inside diameter. Tapering out to 2 inch. This would be like adding a jet log to your set up. That would give you more suction. I've done a lot of reading on these many years ago. I think it be worth your while to tinker around with this to get your most efficient set up
Thanks Tye !
If i can suggest,
Try 3" pipe 20' long above the suction line reduced to 2" then merg and run along suction line like a mechanical dredge!
Replacing the mechanical part of a dredge with the rivers flow before the siphoning effect gets started ?
Then 2" pipe like it was !
with 1 more pipe half way down like jason recomend then merging 20' before it opens up on sluthbox !
You will have 3 points of water flow obove, siphoning and below!
Hope I'm not embarrassing myself? As ive never tried it myself 😊
On your way to work ?
I missed this episode so I'm late , does it sound doable?
Trying to replace the engine of dredge with water flow from above ?
And Jason's idea should increase that !
Hope im not being ridiculous?
@@smckay6438 im on break for 3 more minutes… it sounds like it would work
@@FlourgoldWizards wish i could help you carry the pipe !lol
Still think all that area is big time influenced by glaciers !
and any big gold or big deposits are up (north) facing hills and at the ends of the glaciers intrusion south during the ice age !
Think glaciers scraping the gold and were would it get caught up or left, knowing how gold flows and glaciers cut the terrain?
I would think a glacier hitting a hill slowly over centuries would leave gold up or on front or sides of the north face !
It could also be the north side of a drop off like an east west gorge or valley or a lake ?
Boulder's on the hill even bedrock thats elevated !
Absolutely inspiring! It is definitely true that necessity is the mother of invention
It really is!
@@FlourgoldWizards Little Rex is starting to look like a fennec!
oh my gosh sitting around on Saturday night having some cobbles and the wizard shows up with new Ideas, how cool is that 🤠👍👍👍
Thanks Mike 😃✅🍻🍻🍻
Your videos are so interesting and relaxing. Appreciate the hard-working miners! 😊
Glad you like them!
You could do 3" pipe and reduce the nozzle and flex hose to 1.5" and you should have more suction power. That's definitely working with what you got. Love that setup.
Thanks for the tips!
Nice work.. God Bless you 🇮🇩⚒️⛏️💎👍👍
Thank you! You too!
What a different idea! I like learning new stuff like this. Take care!!
Thank you! Cheers!
Fun video!
My brother in Madison got the prospecting itch from coming up and working with my 6” dredge. Now he is getting into prospecting in the lower 48, starting in WI. I’ve forwarded a lot of your videos to him to speed up his learning. Thanks for the help getting him going.
That is awesome!
Hi Wizard….Great vid!, thx!….as a retired Chemical Process Operator, who knows a little bit about Vac process, I’m impressed! Lol!….a small suggestion u might consider, adapting something similar to a vacuum rug cleaner at the end of pipe at ur sleuth it might help with more even flow….a small strip of cloth across the end, on top, might help a bit, stop air creeping back up the pipe, plus smooth out the water flow! Hope the tips might help….Rex was my 1st dogs name, they actually look very similar….mine was the 57 varieties type!!!….I appreciate ur enthusiasm for life!!!
Much appreciated sir ! 😃✌️
Cool setup indeed fam. Keep on having fun getting that Au and living the dream. Gold Squad Out 🤠
Thanks! Will do!
feel a mason's line into the tube up until it goes on the other side. Then , tie up a sponge at the top end, and go at the bottom end and pull-out the line and clear all the gravel
Nice !
I’m digging this ! ! ! The jerky on the other hand is a complete mystery eh lol.
Just disappeared!!🐺🐺😑
Its a joy watchin someone who loves what they're doing. Results are important sure...but enjoying the ride is where the true riches reside❤
I couldn’t agree more 😃✌️
What a day! Lots of ups and downs , The dredge is sure a winner.
Agreed
@@FlourgoldWizards Hi from Down Under Jason, I`m sure you would have had lots of suggestions on how to improve the awesome gravity dredge I have a simple suggestion which is at the inlet to be half of the diameter of the tube exit ,Y so the left side be it 1" the right of the Y to be also 1" this is the suction hose "Dredge" the bottom of the Y is to be 2" all the way to the sluice which will increase the suction and get more flow onto the sluice.
Last suggestion I`ve seen this on powered dredges to put a rubber flap across the sluice few inches down flow to spread the water current.
P.s Run it past the hard working miners for approval. 🤣😂🤣
Cheers.
I see, while you are hard at work mining those little rascals scarfed the treats! Oh, the what me? looks on those two was priceless. I hope you at least enjoyed a few liquid gold treats. A fun video and a bit of a shame about the spilled pan. It’s just nice to get out! Take care Jason and may gold shine a light on you.
Agreed, the look on Rigbys face was pretty shameful…🤣🤣🤣🐺✅
Looks like you had a good time. And your gravity dredge also moved some material, cobbles to ya. It’s a lot of fun just to watch you try new stuff. I can tell you really love what you do. Great video Jason. By the way, do you think a Sasquatch stole those beef sticks??
I don’t think any sasquatch stands a chance with those two jerky hounds….. maybe a sneaky racoon …🤣✅🐺🐺🍻
Enough head pressure you could make a 8". Really rip through some gravels! :-)
Now we’re talking!!!🤣🍻✅
Very creative idea. My digging spot doesn't allow gas dredging either. Thanks for the video.
No problem 👍
You magical wizard you! Lol! That's awesome and pretty inventive! We totally got a kick out of your video. I hope your able to work the kinks out and make it better. Sorry your cons bucket fell over that was a bummer! Anyway, here's to more great adventures!! 😊
I really think we’re close to being able to move a lot of material !
Super freaking cool. Best and fastest way. Glad you got a great design. Keep up the great job
Thank you! Cheers!
Your Dredge worked better than I expected. I finally finished cleaning up my beach gold 4 days of running my cube and I got exactly 1 gram . Then I cleaned up my black poison bag from you and it was exactly the same material plus some silver very pretty>
I really hope the dredging works!!
I love that beach sand too !
Sometimes it's just about enjoying the outdoors. Without bad days there would be no good ones.
Thanks again 🇨🇦👍😎
You got that right!
hehehehehhe!!!! Nothing better than getting plenty of fresh air and sunshine and no gold JJ!!! 😮😮🤣🤣 Thanks for the video JJ.
You got that right!
that trout you scared outta that hole in the bank in a previous video is gonna love that new man cave you dug for him. cobbles!
Definitely!
Cool idea. A little more tinkering and the boys will be able to do all work! Cobbles gigantis!
That's the plan!
Kudos for hauling all that gear in and trying something new!
Well thank you 😃✌️
Like the concept,very informative video,good luck on next one,I'll be watching.
Awesome, thank you!
Thanks for doing this. I've been wondering about a setup like this for a while.
Any time😃✅🐺🍻
Thanks for the video Jason. Glad Rigby and Rex could get you going today to do some dredging. Looks like you had a good start on it, but sucks that your pan flipped over and that your jerky vanished. Weird.🤔
I will refrain from giving suggestions as it looks like you have enough to keep you busy until snow flies.
Thank you again to the Flour Gold Wizard Team and have a great weekend. Cobbles!!🍻
I guess i need another guard dog to guard the jerky …✅🤣
Your having too much fun with the word suck 😂 great video man! Another winner 🏆
Agreed 🤣🤣🤣🍻
Yeah! This gravity dredge concept seems great to me! In reality it’s not working up to it’s potential on this first attempt, but I really think that the potential for greatness is there. I look forward your future innovations!!
Were really close !!!
Jason! Dial in that setup and you're golden!! Literally!! Also, 20:54 - 20:57 ... That's what SHE said 😂
🤣✅✅✅ it’s close !!!
Hi J 😁 I like what your doing there, to try to eliminate those issues I would use a phenom tube at the bottom and a reducer nozzle at the top like a vacuum cleaner attachment for small spaces.
Thanks for the tips!
Great effort, you're back thanks you. Classifying at the nozzle is slowing everything down. classify at the sluice so the material can keep moving. Great job can't wait for more.
Thanks for the tips!
I'm looking forward to seeing how your Mat does and what you come up with crash/header box. A little more drop and your dealing with a jet at the end.
Pretty cool! That Rex is a fast learner. What he’s learning exactly… I’m not sure. Haha
He actually walked on the 3pipes i had going into the sluice then stood on the sluice…. 🤣
Great job Jason so cool never thought of that congrats on getting it to work and shoveling directly on the sluice works so much easier awesome job keep it up
Yes it does!I have a screen for it but rarely have a spot close to where i can set up a sluice to do it !
Hey, great idea with the pipe, thanks. Greetings from Poland.
Thanks ! Greetings!👋
Did good Jason. I think like you said larger pipes. Also I would take the time to make the pipes straight as possible, especially up and down direction so it moves the material better.
Fun time for sure.
I enjoyed watching, especially the pups faces showing a clear guilt trip 😂
You Two Are Looking Very Guilty!
Thanks sir
Peace Prospector Tripp
I really thought the pipes looked straight in the field but on video they looked ip and down 🥸
I think you’re right on the money there.
Guilty faces alright…. 🐺🐺🐷🐷
@@FlourgoldWizards when I built my first dredge I had the crash box up too high and it would load up material in the hose too easily. I lowered the height a few inches and boom no more issues.
3 cents worth of my vast knowledge. I have roughly 10 cents worth in total 🤓
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I can’t make change for a nickel either….✌️😃
Tragic! I've tipped a gold pan before as well though not running that much material. It was awesome to see the gravity dredge at work though I am inspired and want to build one.
Hopefully we get it dialed in soon!!
I'm happy to help you are a great guy and one of the only channels I watch ! Sorry I'm late to the show I've been to busy 😢
I get it Adam…. I get it ✌️🍻✅
You hit the nail on the head by saying: "But you got to try new stuff, you know? Unless it's Spinach".
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Adam is very knowledgeable glad I found his channel years ago definitely helped me find gold and he even gave me a few awesome places to play in the creek great guy.. another awesome video Jason 😎
Great to hear! 😃✌️✅✅✅
Packer game, ice cold PBR , and flour gold wizards. Decent Saturday.
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Jason, maybe try putting a wye or two inline towards the sluice end and then use a street 45 degree elbow out of the wye to point upstream with a section or two of pipe under water feeding the wye's to create more suction. Think of it like a dredge jet log times 2 with volume rather than pressure. Should help. Otherwise larger diameter pipe would be the fix.
Great idea !
You started off with a gravity dredge that had a small amount of water pouring through and would have had no suction, only flow. You made a siphon dredge as soon as you lifted up the lower end of the pipe and filled the air space with water.
To get more suction you need more volume. If you use a ten foot garden hose to drain a pool or a pond. It will barely have any suction at all. If you use 100 feet it will just about suck your thumb right into it.
Check your states regulations. California outlawed both mechanized and siphon dredges.
The slope to length ratio is key. If I remember right you need 10 feet of length for every 1 foot of drop, but double check me on that. I used a 100 foot 4 inch black smooth interior flexible drainage pipe and it worked great!
Good luck.
Love your videos and exuberant love of life.
I’ve got a couple great ideas from the comments i will be trying 😁✅
I believe the reason for the back up of materials was because of the raise at the end of your pipe at the end. Similar to a "belly" in a pipe that collects sediment. I love the idea of tinkering wirh new ideas.
I believe you’re right!✅🍻
There's a dip in the pvc pipe causing it to load up. Just put some rocks under that section to flatten it out. With enough pipe (and water)you could gravity feed water to a highbanker. Larger pipe reduced to spray nozzle, high pressure spray bar.
Change out elbow for one with smaller pipe or tubing, down to pex tube, for crevicing. You could put a garden hose adapter on the flex pipe for washing down bedrock into a low spot
The material i want is at the head of the pipe system, further testing required 😃✌️🍻✅
@@FlourgoldWizards, and down in the bedrock cracks. I've watched them spray the loose stuff down to a low spot with a garden hose attached to the highbanker where the could get at it with the sucker then break up the hard packed stuff out of the crack with crevicing tools.
The gravity pipe works both ways. Suck and blow. Of course with suck, you have to keep the pipe as flat straight as possible to keep it from plugging.
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that was a rather interesting idea!
looking forward to seeing how you work out the bugs!
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cobbles!!
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I believe we’re close !!!
Thanks CC ✌️😃🍻✅🐺
Nice you finally got something to dredge with right on 💪⛏️🇺🇲
You got that right!
Come on over this way I'll let you run my dredge it's a DIY build with an inch and a half Keen nozzle but has some really great suction power I carry a rake with me that I extended the forks on it so I can remove all that gravel right out of my way and just deal with sand and smaller gravel two people running it could get quite a bit if you were to come out here I'd let you keep everything that we get 🤘🇺🇲⛏️
You might try adding a smaller screen to the suction Inlet, 1/4" hardwire cloth... possibly even two layers at 45 degrees to each other. That should eliminate rocks and just let the fines through.
Thanks !!!!
Right on bro that awsome. If you can find a spot with more drop in the river you could actually get that bad pony ripping hard. . That's awsome. I've been wanting to try the ole gravity trick. . This video was awsome
The dredge you have seems to work awesome!!!
Rex is such a HAMBONE!!!! Love the little monster paw! Please give him some luvin for me and give some to our old pal RIGBY too!!!
Thanks for the really cool video. Its a neat process when you cant use a mechanical dredge.
It was so much fun figuring and trying…. ✌️😃✅🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
punch plate over the top of the mate would help and i agree longer maybe 4 in flex tubing (so you can follow the stream around corners if need be) hard pipe is fine if you have 80 feet or so with smaller screen over the nozzle so the bigger rocks don't plug up the pipe. thanks for the share! stay awesome!
We’re on the same page….😎✅🍻
Excellent experiment bro!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
@@FlourgoldWizards 🍻
Great video Jason , maybe that saw tooth matt may be better allowing the larger stones to flow over without taking the fine flour gold or maybe not !
That could work 😃
That looks like it might be a crackin’ setup. Among the tweeks I might suggest is adding a Venturi section of tubing between the flexible and rigid hose. It may speed up the water flow.
It’s in the works ✅
That's so cool 😂 maybe as an adjustment to it you could cut the bottom of a bucket off, cut a hose sized hole in that, submurge it in a hole in creek so it's all under water, have the hose going into it through the hole in the side you cut and then you kinda classify into the bucket and then it'll vaccum the material out, bit more labor intensive but we all know you're a hard working miner and it's not just the hounds doing all the work
All good ideas !!!
We all have those days where an accident happens and we lose it.. i was on river after a good day. I went to grab my snuffer bottle for last pan of the day and realized to my horror that I had dropped it in the river. A while days work gone, minus the last pan I was cleaning up. 😢 like the auction dredge idea! You'll get it dialed in. Keep at it.
It really only needs a little tweaking and we’ll be moving mountains!!!
What a great vid JASON as you said more studding l think it will work great in the end 👍 👏
Hope so!
Your theory is good. You just need a crash box or hopper to distribute your materials and water better. Thanks for the great videos!
Agreed ✅
I love the concept. Tweak it. Check out charts of drop of elevation to drop for vacuum values. I used to use siphon tubes for irrigation in my youth and the higher the source vs. drop was imperative to flow. Good luck. I hope this helps.
Much appreciated!
That looks very interesting. Really good field test. You should’ve named Rex, Ears! He’s got a pair.
Or radar ….🤣✅
Try using a sanitary T, where the t curves in to the main part, you can use the flow end for water only and the curved T end for sucking. Use the other extra hose to connect and to go further up the stream for more fall.
Great idea !
Simply Amazing...What about a smaller mesh screen on the in take of your suction head...? I'm sure you have thought of that. Great thoughts in your up grade of equipment.
We’ll see how it does with limited flow !
Great friend excellent adventure beautiful gold I hope to be a great like you greetings from Colombia 🎉🎉🎉
I hope so too!
Adapt fitting to 3” and you’ll be in bidness quick ! Always remember, a suction should be roughly half again as big as your discharge. You’ll find that sweet spot for sure ! 👍💯🔥
Good to know! Thank you 😃✌️✅😎🐺
Hey Jason what would happen if you drilled a inlet and outlet holes in a five gallon bucket. Then use your classifier in it.
Seems reasonable 😃✅
Iv been playing with ideas for a gravity dredge for a while now good work cant wait to see more. Couldn't really see how u set it up properly. So no point in sticking my 2 cents in with suggestions. 👍🏴⚒️
We learned a lot trying this, a couple tweaks and we’re in business!!
@@FlourgoldWizards can't wait to see what u come up with bud👍⚒️🏴
This method reminds me of bearing sea gold episode,
Seems to work well just some tinkering needs to be done for sure 👍🍻🍺🍺
Id really enjoy try that !!!!
Saturday night special 👍🏼
You know it!
Try turning your gravity dreg into a venture vacuum. About 1/4 to 1/2 the way down your first upstream pipe, add a y duct. Make sure your y is pointed up stream. Hook your suction hose to the y. I would probably go up in pipe size also. Adapting down to your suction hose from the y.
Excellent ✅
Great job Jason. I’ve been wanting to make a gravity sluice for a while now. I tried once before but I didn’t have enough fall and I was trying to use too big and long of pipe for me to handle. I was using 50, rolls of add drainage pipe and the ridge’s were too hard to clean out. But yeah this time I’m going smooth pipe into a flexible pipe like you did.
I hope it works!!!
Always fun to try something new
Definitely!
If you run a pipe upstream, connecting with a Y to your main pipe after your suction hose. It might increase the draw on your suction. I've seen this done in the mountains, but there was much more elevation. 🤔
Good tip!
I'm new, but been watching for a while. I wonder if you could attach the flex hose to a modified classifier bucket. Suction hose on the bottom and many holes drilled into the sides. Then use your metal screened separate and pull the trash out. Moving more dirt faster.
Another idea I had what about submerging a black ribbed drain tile. Sticking it to the ground and coming back after a few weeks , catching your sand from stream flow.
Seems reasonable!!!
If you take 2 Y pipes one the main pipe. Then you can do more sucsion?
And maby a bigger pipe at the end after the Y-pipes.
Gravity dredge is a great tool. I think if you use a Y fitting at the top of 5 lengths of pipe and add one length to the top you will get better suction and too clean out the pipe of the material. But I would use 3 inch pipe and reduce the fitting for your flex hose to 2"
Excellent assessment!!!! ✅
Great video Jason. Thanks for sharing👍👍
Thanks for watching!
Neat stuff. Always fun! ;-) Keep up the good work.
Thanks, will do!
That’s pretty cool! Next thing you know your going to have to anchor boulders from above from falling on you! 😉🍻
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Pail tipping over....sounds like the kind of day I have panning !😅
Yikes 🤣🤣🍻
I only toon it to see the fridge of wonder and it was absent today. I hope he is not sick. lol
He’s fine🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻✅
He needs that. He's a hard-working miner!
The hardest!🤣🐕🐺
Awesome 👍
My thoughts were to put a funnel at the beginning, the larger opening should = more back pressure. Vs getting a 4" pipe.
Great suggestion!
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Cobbles grande !!!!🤣🍻🍻
Do you think this would work as a way to run more material(bigger scoops) through an un powered river sluice?
Possibly more material but way less work in steps ✅
Great EXPERIMENTATION. Maybe 1 inch intake with same gravity feed pipes. Cool to see. The screen is good. Like it. Another fine video 😊.
We have some great ideas in mind !
Hello Flour gold Wizards,
I just saw your video and an idea just occurred to me!
I don't know if that would work!
Try it with a normal dredge nozzle, except that the one hose that creates the negative pressure is higher up in the river, so you could possibly shorten the other side of the nozzle that leads into the sluice box and the negative pressure would then be higher.
If you know what I mean.
Thanks for the idea!