I am a boomer and Black retired U.S. veteran and normally very little that happens in the States moves me emotionally. The topics discussed in this video make me angry. I don't fear the white supremacist republican's and their "Project 2025" because I have seen it all before. I live in Texas, and I have witnessed the ommission of critical American history in my own grandchildren. Their lack of civic engagement and subsequent lack of understanding of the power of their vote I now realize was intentionally taught to them in schools my tax dollars helped to fund. What can be done to turn this awful trend around in Texas and other southern states besides simply voting for Democrats?
Informing family and friends of what has been going on in schools and helping them understand that voting for all levels of local elections,...school boards, judges, sheriffs, every office impacts the systems that allow the right to make and enforce laws that oppress and steal our right to know the truth. Learning about systemic oppression that is rooted in the past but has continued in different forms is vital. When you look for answers, be wary of the sources. Right wing propaganda sites often have names that sound like "traditional values". Don't be afraid of looking for "leftist" sources. The right fear mongers about socialism and keeps people from learning about the best ideas to fight the system and raise up marginalized groups. The cruelties committed on citizens are a class war but disguised as "social and moral" issues to keep the working class fearful of each other and distracted from the agenda of the rich. Educating ourselves, our children and grandchildren, our friends and neighbors if we can, is the best way to fight for the hope of a better future for all. The far right has replaced compassion with vengeance over exaggerated differences. If you are Christian, notice how the things they do and say are very unlike what Jesus would do and challenge that.
Show up and represent at the local level, even if you're going door to door to represent a less-than-perfect candidate you can still have a conversation and perhaps plant a seed of positive change. Volunteer if you can, even if it's getting children to practice reading in an after school setting, you don't have to "indoctrinate" into any specific ideology to try and encourage an enthusiasm for learning and teach them how to back up their ideas with evidence. Make individual connections, so that divisive propaganda is weakened by authentic experience .
@@gmwilliams4314 The democratic party and the republican party have the same objectives. In your vote this November.You choose between someone you personally dislike and another who nobody voted for. Neither candidate will stop bombing kids in gaza. America. Is the number one sponsor of terror on the planet. We spend 10 times all the other countries combined killing children on every continent. The banality of evil... You just didn't know All your tax dollars are destroying so many lives.
The last straw might be moving to a less racist and ignorant country. As Black man it moves me emotionally too ancd I would love to welcome you and your grandchildren in Europe. Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
Human history is rife with origin stories. They who revise history win the game. The winners of the myth-making become the hegemonic culture. Men writing in the desert 2000 years ago knew this. Then, years later, they lock it in so you aren't even allowed to discuss it (hence the blasphemy laws and book banning/burning). In a nut shell, we lie to ourselves, and the more people who believe that lie, the better for the power brokers who originate the lie. What do we do about it? Well, we could start by critiquing the actual history of Christianity. The short answer is no. There is nothing you can do about it. We have to keep towing the lie. The talking animals? The empty tomb? The miracles? All fabrication. But, you'd better not talk about it or point out the lies.
"Don't join the book burners. Don't think you are going to conceal faults by concealing the evidence that they ever existed. Don't be afraid to go into your library and read every book". -Dwight D. Eisenhower
TODAY'S RETHYGLICONS HATE EISENHOWER. AFTER ALL, HE IMPOSED A 91% TAX RATE ON ANY $1.00 OVER $400 k MADE THEN, EQUIVALENT TO $4 MILLION TODAY. CAN YOU IMAGINE THE REVENUE BROUGHT IN IF THAT RATE EXISTED TODAY? WE MIGHT HAVE GREAT SCHOOLS, PUBLIC TRANSIT, AND HEALTH CARE FOR FREE!
When did he say that? Probably after McCarthyism. It would have been beneficial to teach about fascism and fascism tactics to teens in the 1940s, so they'd be prepared to recognize McCarthyism and oppose it, instead of being afraid of Communist spies and propagandists among those writing books, making movies and plays, and so on. (Intelligentsia or literati?)
@@ld4974 There are things in our contemporary books that no sane person could ever have foreseen. I knew an older Conservative guy in the 80's, and I openly laughed at the things he predicted to be on the horizon. Turns out, he never guessed the HALF of it...
Im a doctoral dropout in philosophy turned lawyer. So I love academic philosophy. Jason Stanley is fantastic. He is one of the few able to work in sophisticated academic philosophy and bridge that to real world concerns. That is philosophy at its best. He is an important voice now in our political discourse. I encourage anyone to follow up on his books and talks.
I’m a former philosophy major and I credit that experience with learning to discipline my mind and become a critical thinker. At the base of my learning was logic, and knowing what makes something logical helps you to set aside illogical concepts, like immigrants eating pets
Yes. Jason Stanley is a pre-eminent philosopher in the US today. I just ordered his latest book from Amazon. I have been reading his articles for sometime now…
Investing in the security and well-being of nations like Ukraine and Israel, and extending support to the Iranian people like smart sanctions on Oil exports of Islamic Republic but letting Iranians make money online through services, is crucial because our populations share a common wealth of talents, technologies, and values that foster economic growth, human rights, and fundamental freedoms. This understanding is lost on extremist ideologies like fascism, Marxism, and jihadism, which often rely on zero-sum thinking. For evidence, consider the arguments presented in 'Enlightenment Now' by Steven Pinker. Those who disagree are invited to engage in a constructive debate at Atheist Republic, where we can explore the merits of liberal values and the flaws in authoritarian models. Embracing liberalism allows for mutually beneficial outcomes, whereas extremist ideologies often require someone to lose in order for them to gain.
This book is a false narrative. I’m an educator and have been for 25 years and I understand that the Democrats in the left control education at least for the last 1520 years. With the Republicans trying to do is move education a little bit more to the center so therefore Democrats are the ones that are being Nazi like trying to keep control Pure propaganda, taking from Joseph Goebbels himself. Accused the other side of which you are doing. It’s a false narrative. instead of arguing about this, we should just incorporate combination of conservative and liberal views so that way both sides of the spectrum an education not just one side which is the left is trying to control
seriously: tell your neighbors, or anyone who will listen. tons of ppl will listen, corporate media are lying about the number of ppl ok w republican fascism. almost 70% of us are pocs or women. the republicans know their party may die. so many left ppl do not vote bc they are poor, overworked and uninformed.
I took a toodle through my child's 5th grade "Social Studies" text book and shot off to the principal's office like a madwoman. There was a full page spread of Robert E Lee with a full illustration on the facing page. In the text we learned he had been 1st in his class at Westpoint, that his horse was named Traveller and that his home was now Arlington Cemetery. What we didn't learn is that he was stripped of his US Citizenship and had turned down the leadership of the Union Armies- potentially causing untold hundreds of thousands to die. This supposed "textbook" was used because it complemented the standardized tests my child was forced to endure and her teachers were forced to prepare her for. This happened in Chicago Illinois- the "Land of Lincoln". The state that elected him Representative. The city Mary Lincoln lived in after the assassination. Abominable. Thanks for this. Mr. Stanley is a treasure and I always look forward to his scholarship.
@@oldbeatpete Texas is the largest purchaser of school text books. So yes, they set the standard for the nation. But the glorification of Robert E. Lee is pretty wild.
Democracy is at stake worldwide, but it barely penetrates the minds of the average citizen of (the so far) liberal democracies in the West. The breakdown of that liberal democracy is a creeping and concealing process, the reality of which only dawns on people when the damage has already been done. This is very worrying and deserves all attention!
The erasure of history is so real. The amount of people who have thrown in my face “you were never a slave! No one alive today is a slaver owner!” And all I can think is, “No, but my grand parents were sharecroppers. 1 of my grandparents was actually born on the plantation our family had been forced to labor on. And my parents were never slaves but my mother’s aunt was the child of a slave and my parents integrated the public schools in our city.” This history is not so far behind us.
The ability to put People into jail, and force them to work, sure appears to look like Slavery. I have seen that working. Do not allow the Bozos to lie to you. Facts remain, after the smell of bullshit has blown away.
And most of those slaves were BOUGHT from other blacks....start reading, and you'll actually LEARN...go ahead....IF you can handle it...We both know you CAN'T...because education will rob you of your grounds for complaint, and your excuses....and we both know you'll never give those up....
@@TeaParty1776 Nobody here called for a vendetta. @tylerhumphries merely asked that we not pretend that history didn't happen, and very recent history at that.
I went to public schools in Texas. Professor Stanley is right. I am a writer, so read a great deal. But many latinx don’t know the violent past of Texas history, or what Democracy is. They know something is wrong, but feel helpless about it. This is deliberate.
We had messianic-minded hippie dippy teachers so invested in learning us real good about civil rights that they ran out of time to help us raise our SAT scores that would get us out of the ghetto. I skipped a lot of school and read the classics by the wharf instead so I came out okay but I will never forgive them for their misedjamacation of my classmates. Honors, mind you. Haha.
Did Professor Stanley state that "the Weimer Republic was not flooded with anti-Semitism"???? Maybe he just mis-spoke or there was an issue with the sound.
A very sobering discussion - well done. I'm 80, and am very concerned about the deeply rooted yearning of a large portion of our population for a "return" to some magical time in the past when things were "as they should be."
Mans life in society requires a concrete-reality-based, rational culture. This requires learning from the past and planning the future. Past and future are good or bad relative to mans life.
I agree with this gentleman. Black history is American history. We need to stop separating blackness from whiteness. They are the same. We form the same tree even though we share different roots.
@@JHimminy If the systemic removal of black history did not happen there would be no need- on that we can agree - I would be fine with not having a black history month - because black history would be a mainstream part of any curriculum
@@pjpredhomme7699 I learned about black history in public schools, but I was never taught one bit of my own people’s history. Go figure. But you only care about your own group, you’re merely an ethno-narcissist. All working Americans are the descendants of slaves.
I'm a boomer and can tell you our history books were differant than the ones in Northern states. I'm talking about elementary school. I would think that by the time you reach college age you'd have learned the important parts correctly. But down here it's pure ignorance and pride for "our heritage". Dude, it's not our heritage. It's our shame for some to still think the south won the Civil War. I'm old enough to have seen George Wallace at his worst standing at the door not letting black kids enter. It shames me to this day and this is still a state full of racist and bigots that teach their kids to be the same. I hope to see a difference but it's hard to educate the hate out of people if they don't care to learn the past correctly. Like I said , ignorance runs rampant down here.
I’ve witnessed since the late 90s the degradation of support for education: with more & more adjuncts in colleges, criticism of science and coerced K-12 testing standards, let alone a quarter century+ of budget cuts. If Americans don’t see this by now, it can be a lost cause for us all.
@@northernbohemianrealist No, spending simply went off the charts, why would that happen, those institutions are run by the people who watch this channel.
Support for education hasn't declined, just for indoctrination. What's wrong with instilling the values of your faith instead of the state? Maybe that's why *1984* is no longer required reading...
I was surprised to find this is not entirely true. Kids might home school because they are a serious violinist, an artist, someone gifted at a young age. They might home school for health reasons, or because the kid is 2 years behind in school, or 2 years ahead, and they have a parent able to help them. They do not all wind up as weird adults, as I watched them grow up in my community, though I did not home school. There are wierd families in public school, private school and home school. Too many public school kids are still home in their parents basement at 19. Christian nationalists can be in a public school, private school, home school. I am sorry to say I am finding them everywhere.
@@elspeth8476 I believe freebirdseed is talking about the majority home schooled. 19 year olds, living at home, is not due to education. It's due to importing a labor glut. 1 in 3 under 35 are living at home with no job. A crisis in any country, but media here is dead silent on it. Early 1990s, just about in parallel with NAFTA, "unemployment rate" was redefined, to exclude anyone who's not looked for a job in the past month.
When I looked through my homeschooled nephew's christian (Seton) science textbook's index, there was only one mention of evolution, which dismissed the entire theory in a single short paragraph. This willfully cultivation of scientific ignorance is exceedingly dangerous (witness climate change science denial, which seems to help lay the ground for wider, politicially motivated denial of science, if it conflicts with right-wing goals.)
Unfortunately, America has been exactly how he describes for the majority of its existence. Republicans are simply reverting back to what they know best. This countries fledgling democratic system of government is actually only 59 years old. Don't believe me. Just ask one of your Black friends to explain my opinion.
He's just another dumb intellectual playing with fire. He thinks if only the right people get in the state won't be a problem. What he doesn't come to terms with is that the state is always the problem. I would like to see him bite the hand that feeds him once in a while. The guy is a court Intellectual.
When I had to home-school my children due to many moves, this was one of my guiding principles in developing my own curriculum. The effect of this choice was, and is, obvious. My kids read news critically, not consuming news and subsequent media. Plus, their choices in reading material (novels, etc.) reflect this. As adults, they feel dismayed by behind-the-scenes work of fascist American conservatism in many of our systems. Interesting side note, my son is thinking of serving in the military; he believes in the ideal that the US could be. As a disabled veteran with education, I am proud of my kids. They give me hope. What is problematic with this is that I had to wrest control away from our education system - giving the Republicans/GOP want they want: "See! The system is failing. And, we know what to do." The Republican Party lost their way, falling headlong into a modern fascist party.
How can you support the proxy wars the USAINC perpetrates? For what??Trillion a year minimum. Patriotism is ‘mind control’ BS. How about free education, free medical and training for all ppl to have proper jobs? Infrastructure?
Bizarre to me that parents do t want their children to feel shame about shameful acts in history. Seems to me the parents need an education about how negative emotions can be used to fuel positive actions and outcomes.
In the South, they have a different take on the Civil War---that it wasn't over slavery (it was), and that even it had been, slavery was not really so bad (it was). This lore has been handed down from generation to generation. Only education could break through that fog.
@@marymccluer1630 Slavery was not really so bad? I believe the photo of the man with whip marks all over his back says it all. Or casket photos of Emit Till, re: Jim Crow.
@@marymccluer1630but their education says differently. You just don’t like that someone believes differently than you. It’s difference you don’t like. You’re opposed to diversity and believe their can only be ONE (your) Truth. You’re a mindless religious fanatic.
Very informative! I have a Library of books that helped me come to his conclusions! I plan Get Erasing History to add to my library of knowledge and understanding
Bravo PBS!!! Enlightening what being set up by many school boards in Florida in many states in America. This man’s knowledge is so very valuable!!! Thank you Mr Srinavarsin. (sp.)
I have lost most of my extended family to the MAGA Party. A very important piece. I volunteer and donate for the Blues. At times it's just so sad. So many of my extended family are mad at everything.
Max Baucus, a prominent Democrat who was a Committee Chairman on Appropriations Committee's, was heard to say "The GOP will not allow that." I have met this man and I understand that the statement reflects the balance that will prevent any Partisan Issues, from ever emerging from Committee Rooms. Congress is who regulates the Money that supports any issue that will cost any amount of money. They are the ones who actually have power to regulate Government actions. You do need to observe the actions of Congress and understand that Administrations simply perform the actions that relate to other Nations. They are regulated by Congress. The Senate selects the Members of a Cabinet who do the actual work. That seems to indicate the direction that the Administration will take. Look up Robert Mercer and how he made some major changes in Elections after 2016.....
Very very insightful interview obviously from a person of great standing. What a great guest, this person should be praised for his practical wisdom, great understanding of the subject he talks about, a mind as great as treasure trove , this is someone with great moral character. 👍🏻👍🏻
Jason's take on the goal of closing the Department of Education was insightful--essentially, close our gaze to potential discriminatory practices in Southern states, allowing Jim Crow to slip back in without much national attention.
Earth created in 6 days. America was founded by a small handful of white colonists from England. The constitution was an innovation by a tiny handful of white colonists from England. The Mayflower was full of people seeking religious freedom. etc.
We’ve been eliminating the department of education for decades, BOTH parties. That’s essentially what we do with “chairships”; corporations pay the professors salaries not the tax payer. It’s outsourcing the department of education…
Powell memo ( I believe) outwardly stated that wealthy citizens should stop efforts to have an educated prolitariate.Yes, the word prolitariate was used by Powell.
Suggested reading: Trilateral Commission report, "The Crisis Of Democracy", from the early 1970s. Where Euro/Japanese/American elite outline the reasons they believe we have "an excess of democracy".
Excellent video on The Dangers of Weaponizing History and Education! " If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter. ~ George Washington
Under-educated is a better descriptor, I think. Such has been in the works for many decades and making the population into a more easily manipulated society. Republicans have consistently used manufactured social issues to divert the attention of voters from their nefarious goals of shifting all wealth from the middle class to the top 10% which the Republicans believe should, by divine right, rule not only the U.S. but the world. People have repeatedly been duped and now that the Republicans believe they have a guy who can take them all the way, they won't back down.
Most folks have been raised to believe rather than think. This is unfortunate. It leads to decision-making based on emotional reactions over intelligent weighing of facts. It makes for easy manipulation of the masses.
@@JHimminy don't have to, it's pretty clear..check back in history 10 years from now when the maga cult falls. Yes I have a PhD in computer science and I'm a history fan so yes I'm decent in BRAIN
❤❤❤❤ Thank you, everybody should hear this.The scapegoat,"the others" I am originally from Czechoslovakia, I know what Nazis( nationalists - we are #1) and fascism are
Hi christina I watch your show every morning or late at night I am Afghan living out of Afghanistan for 43 years but I never stop thinking about my beloved country Afghanistan and Kabul I just saw your interview with NATO secretary general the mistake they made in Afghanistan ,I thought the biggest mistake was that America and NATO didn’t know how to manage the Money they poured in Afghanistan The money went to the pockets of corrupt government and to any one who-had pawer and contractors instead of managing and using the money on people education and life and what ever they should have manage the money the more money they got the more corrupt they become I heard a more then 5billions dollars went to the pocket of criminals and As a result when Neto and allies left Afghanistan People lives was worse then they start And the end Trump and Allies hand Afghanistan to Taliban The day they left wasn’t a mistake the whole 23 years was mistake because of poor management They went to Afghanistan with no plan and left with no plan.war and pooring money can’t solve the problems unless you have a plan with good intentions and right reasons,That wasn’t in Afghanistan case.My warning to any countries ever wants to go to Afghanistan learn from history Don’t go you never win ….Thank you peace and prosperity to Afghanistan and to the whole world.People get civilized for the name of peace.❤❤❤.
The opposite of fascism is pluralism. Work to maintain and expand pluralism in your society, and this will identify the fascist impulses around you, and give you an outline for how to defeat them.
@@weirdshibainu Not all forms of authoritarianism are fascist. I'm no expert on the USSR, and I'm not going to stand up for them.. With that said, would you care to enlighten me on some of their "fascist tactics" so that I can point out to you in real-time how those tactics fail as examples of pluralism? 🙃
@@JP-JustSayin The USSR was a highly pluralistic society. Let's start there. Do you lack even an understanding of how the Soviets operated? Really? Gulags, secret police, no due process, no free press, when someone was found "guilty" their family was often incarcerated as well, use of arbitrary economic pressure, zero private property rights, threats of violence and actual use of violence by the state--- all fascist tactics. Every heard of "The Red Terror"?
@@JP-JustSayin Look up the definition of fascism. Compare it to the USSR's history. It dovetails perfectly. Stalin was a Georgian, a region that held nothing but contempt for Russia and smaller than Russia. Stalin exploited age old enmities to consolidate power.
To me it is like that saying, "high school never ends." The bullies at my high school were unfortunately allowed to do almost anything they wanted in the mid 1970's. Looking back it was really, really bad. I hope it is different now. But to me, that is autocracy and fascism. The wanted to do whatever they wanted and would do almost anything to terrify others into letting them.
@@JHimminy Don't blame the government. The teachers were of course terrified of any action taken against bullies because of...their parents. Get it? The only solution is cameras in classrooms recording everything all the time. Just like we now see the police acting badly, we would see teachers ignoring the worst acts of sadism because they do not want to deal with it.
oh I wholeheartedly agree - I see this time and time again. In groups we really expand very little beyond those early developmental dynamics . I work in an industry where - it is plain to see that people who were very nerdy when they were young become important / powerful - and it is very very evident in many of them - that they bare that resentment -right near the surface - it is fascinating to watch .
You make it sound like the Federal gov runs that, it doesnt. Each of the 50 states has numerous ways to impact the effectiveness and type of education that is available at the public k-12 and college campuses
Much to my surprise, my state, New Hampshire (trending purple), one of the top in the nation for transparency, and immediate neighbor, Massachusetts (blue), one of the least transparent in the nation. We're being gamed, bilked and deflected, from so many directions, in election processes, and in our economic lives.
To become a more perfect union, we have to have to ability to criticize the past. If we don’t know our history, or our history is altered from reality, it is hard to critique it. And, thus we can never work toward a more perfect union as enshrined in the founding documents of the country.
It also means the public doesn't recognize the dotted lines to today's malfunction. Example: England swept their streets of indigent and orphans and sent them to the colonies, as indentured. Origin of US is free labor, and still is today, aka wage theft. Particularly from migrants and immigrants.
The political/wealthy class have known for centuries that fear mongering, otherisms and division are essential tools for maintaining power and control.
Wow! Jason thank you that was so open, informative and mind opening. I am most definitely going to start buying your books. In less than 20 minutes you've taught me so much, so clearly and so objectively. Thank you
I am boomer and jumped around 3 different colleges. I went to a state university in the south, a state university in the north, and a private school in the south (I didn't stay there long because of money.) I took 4 different American History courses. I can tell you that schools in the south taught a different history.
MAGA and Mom's for Liberty is excellerating this but its been going on. I'm 40 and went though public school in KS and we were not taught real history. I had teachers that told our class "slavery wasn't all that bad for Black people, most slavemasters worked along side their slaves" Our books did not cover Black self determination or social movements, only the civil rights movement and only briefly. It wasn't until I got to college, an HBCU, that I learned the real history of slave rebellions and social movements.
Ours did. We learned about all of this during k-12. Your schools either sucked hard or you’ve just conveniently forgot that virtually all schools teach this shit, but no one cares because it doesn’t matter. US will be largely non-white in 40-50yrs, and the new citizens won’t give two shits about this because it doesn’t concern them. 🤷🏼♂️
How would you know, have you learned about chinese history or any other history in depth to have a basis for context. You just want a personal narrative.
I feel that some facts about slavery that should be included are: (1) It's been a reality throughout history, (2) white people have been slaves (owned by whites or even Blacks depending on the time and place), (2) all races have been slaves, (3) slavery occurred in the North and the only reason it ended there was the Industrial Revolution, (4) humans who can hold power over others WILL. Our rights are dependent on one another's rights.
@@TanyaOsterman-hw9wv she doesn't care, history of the world revolves around a few years of confederacy and the 60s to them, there is no world or context outside of this.
Thank you, Jason Stanley. I’m a 66 year old Canadian, born 15 years after WW2, and have been following the dumbing down of the US through the education system for many years and I cannot believe I’m witnessing the rise of Fascism in my lifetime, especially in a country that assisted in defeating the NAZIs
Florida and Texas have 66 representatives. 45 are republicans and 20 are democrats. This representation does not represent its citizens. The minority population who are very extreme in their views are running the show. This is not good people. We are really looking at 1930s Germany, oh and don’t forget that Germany is 65% right wing leaning at this time in their own political system. The hatred of immigrants is the power that the alt right has. Our Democrats better talk to talk or they will never get elected. Americans have been taught to blame others for their ills. Remember, it’s everyone else’s fault that America is in the decline instead of realizing that was the plan. Authoritative governing only comes when a nation is collapsing.
Gerrymandering. We need to replace single-seat districts with multi-member proportional representation and replace plurality voting wiht a fairer voting system.
I think it's coming, in part, because our yawning and yet still growing extremes in wealth inequality. We have a lot of homelessness, we have a shrinking middle class, and we have billionaires vacationing in outer space. The number of people in this country paying basic bills with credit cards is resulting in trillions of dollars in collective debt. The frustration and the desperation is growing. And for those looking for a quick solution, what could yield faster results than an "I alone can fix it" guy? A dictator they can vote int to office.
@@trevinbeattie4888 I don't think it needs to be that complicated. We need to outlaw voter party declaration. We need to banish "the parties" from any input or control over election processes, as they have an inherent conflict of interests.
These authoritarians seem to want to erase everything that might cause them embarrassment, shame, or discomfort. It's a wonder that they have not put out their own version of the Bible, which eliminated the Crucifixion. After all, who wouldn't feel at least a little discomfort by the story?
The authoritarian are after power. They're in the process of using anything to rabble rouse and divide, for divide and conquer. It's working beautifully, we're proliferating billionaires.
Wow! @user-ib3ln8mk8z has no embarrassment. The Romans destroyed the temple, the Crusaders tried to wipe out the Jewish and Muslim populations, but through the centuries, the Muslims accepted Jews in the levant. I wonder how many Israelis understand that. Very few Americans do, as demonstrated by that atrocious response.
You don't see how it could also be the dominant ethnicity and religion in the middle east (also descendents of the locally dominant and pioneers of the slave trade the colonial Ottoman empire) could be scapegoating a tiny religious minority to consolidate their own power? Could it be that you are also being manipulated?
@@frankbenevolence How's "violent settlers" and "mowing the lawn" skew by the dominant ethnicity and religion in the middle east? Israel can't commit to what it claims is its own border. How's that supposed to work?
Putin is the 21st Century version of Hitler, using all the same language and tactics. Hitler invaded and annexed his neighbors territories in order to 1) protect German minorities, 2) correct the historical wrong of the WW1 treaty, 3) bring back German glory, and 4) expand the range for German culture (lebensraum). Putin has invaded his neighbors 5 times now and annexed their land, saying he needs to 1) protect Russian minorities, 2) correct the historical wrong that was the break-up of the USSR, and 3) bring back the glory of Imperial Russia, and 4) expand the range of the "Russian world". And the Kremlin even threw in some anti-Semitism when Lavrov said the Jews were partially to blame for the Holocaust.
Yeah there are certainly similarities - but there are also very definite differences. Hitler was a lot of things - but I am not aware of him being out for personal material gain - sure he was able to construct an opulent lifestyle but it was not at all his primary aim. Wars / conflict are pretty much always over resources on some level . But I believe a lot of Putin's desired conquests have more to do with consolidating power and distracting from his plundering of state resources . The same can be said for nearly all the current authoritarians . They are much more a mafia state than anything ideological
Do you know what was Nazi Germany? Haven't you heard about the Holocaust and the Serbian Genocide during WW2? I don't like Putin BUT is it really necessary to compare to Nazi Germany? Remember that Nazi Germany almost succeeded in erasing NOT ONLY the European Jewish community BUT EVEN those who were simply part-Jewish (one Jewish grandparent). It was NEVER intended to erase a RELIGION. It was intended to erase AN ETHNIC GROUP.
Holocaust Denial. Putin does NOT have a mission to erase all Ukrainians all over the world. You need Holocaust education. Hitler and Nazi Germany specifically wanted to erase all Jews and even part-Jewish people from Europe and North Africa. In time, it would have also been spread to the Middle East. Last time I checked, Putin and Russia were NOT targeting Ukrainians in England, France, and other European countries.
@@pjpredhomme7699 Hitler was motivated by IDEOLOGY. Hitler had spiritual beliefs that are related to those of Native American Indians. Hitler was a pagan/pantheist and was motivated by a battle of ethnicities. Hitler referred to ethnicities as RACES; though, technically, they would be ethnic groups. Someone can have more than one ethnicity: Some Jews are both Jewish and Spanish; or both Jewish and French. Jews are an ethnic group. I know someone who is Jewish and has an Italian background. Bottom line: Hitler was motivated by IDEOLOGY. Nazi Ideology is AN IDEOLOGY. That's probably why Nazi Germany was far more dangerous than Russia. Russia is NOT trying to erase all Ukrainians from Europe; Hitler specifically wanted to erase all Jews and even part-Jewish people from Europe and North Africa. In time, this would have spread to the Middle East.
We tend to blame people for being "stupid", that America has lost critical thinking skills. I suggest "crowd psychology"- crowds are influenced by deindividuation (a suspension of disbelief), AND cognitive biases, such as confirmation bias (we prefer information supporting our existing beliefs and ignore conflicting information). I believe Mr Stanley is highlighting "both conditions increase in magnitude with size of the crowd." Wikipedia
German here. It's not only that the AfD has come to power, it's also that the other parties, those, that have the word "Christian" in their titles (like CDU/CSU) and those that consider themselves to be more focussed on social issues (SPD) than others have become increasingly right-wing. All I can say to that, as someone who has to live off social welfare owing to having gotten chronically ill and unable to work at around 40 after having worked full-time for about 15 years, is: I am SO relieved I have not had any children (despite having wanted children all my life). I wouldn't know how to explain to my children that who would have been their fellow human beings care more about hate, money and power than providing every person with what they need to lead a healthy life.
I agree with Professor Stanley but what blows me away are the institutions like Yale, Harvard and Columbia, how they quickly buckled under what I saw as minimal pressure. We've read that donors told those schools if they didn't condemn those student protesters they'd stop donating to those institutions. That would have been the time for those Ivy League Institutions to show politicians and donors their mettle about American's Constitutional rights. These are schools with endowments in the tens of billions of dollars, they could have weathered the storm but they all chose to cave.
Minimal pressure? The Columbia encampment produced tens of thousands in damage as well as holding a janitor against his will! And, yet, no arrests. That should tell you who holds the real power.
That is pretty naive - yes the schools have endowments - but those professors - earn their keep and advance their stature by conducting research - that relies upon outside funding - very often - corporations - trusts and you are not going to find many if any that are going to buck against that .
@@pjpredhomme7699 Professors don't conduct research, they oversee others that do. And those others, the RAs, post-docs, etc. are paid so little they're protesting and going on strike. If Perdue could hold the costs down, others can. They choose not to. Preserving their personal stature, we call corruption. Ethics comes at a price.
@@pjpredhomme7699 I agree with what you're saying but I also believe that business model is seriously flawed. When those corporations fund that research and the research goes against their product, the corporations bury the data or they bribe the researchers to put their product in a positive light hence why Cocoa Puffs is considered part of a balanced breakfast or that Ketchup is considered a vegetable. Basically that model is holding back progress and it applies to many fields.
In America, particularly conservatives hate the view of history as the cumulstive actions of everyday men and women because that view of history was developed by Karl Marx.
You lost me with the student protests against Israel. It is a total misnomer about war on Gaza when Israel is responding to attacks from Gaza, Lebanon, Yemen and Iran. Taking possession of university property and keeping out people who are Jewish who don’t agree with you is itself fascist, not the response.
OR it could be, Palestinians responding to decades of attacks by Israelis? Taking possession of property and keeping out people who are Palestinian who were born there and don't agree with you is itself fascist, not the response.
@@JarheadMcLovin you have that backwards, it’s decades of Palestinian Arabs and other Arabs from 11 countries attacking Israel almost nonstop since 1948, the pogroms started in 1920 when the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem extorted his followers to kill the Jews of Hebron and sacked their temple. Why most of the Jews in that town fled, after living there for 3,500 years. Don’t follow last weeks news, look back and see that the Arabs have been launching raids into Israel constantly since 1948. As far as taking land, you start a war, lose, you lose land. Solution is to stop attacking.
@@oldbeatpete US tax monies is being used to fund a genocide. They've every right to protest. User's argument would've stopped: Selma, Million Man March, Vietnam protests, etc..
@@oldbeatpete actually no, one side is wrong and the other is trying to survive….if the Palestinians stop attacking there would be peace, if Israel stops defending there would be a genocide.
Every source I have found online which lists them as "captains of industry" also includes a sentence immediately afterwards explaining that they are also known as Robber Barons. Honestly, having both terms as well as the additional nuance explaining the distinction and reasoning for both terms, seems better to me than just calling them robber barons. Whether you like it or not, many of the things we consider necessary to American culture came about because of these people. I would prefer people be given both terms and told that they are controversial because of the fact that they brought about a lot of good changes but did it by stepping on everyone in their way. Being able to understand that distinction is important and something that should not be removed
Professor clutches pearls as he tells us Florida is "getting rid of tenure!". Tenure today is far from what the original intention of it was. (Sort of like the police union)
@@ThatonedudeCR12956I believe he’s referring to the protests against Israel’s attacks in Gaza, but he deliberately ignores the fact that these protests deliberately ignore Hamas’ attacks on Israel. Seems to me that both sides are oversimplifying the conflict and overestimating the US’ involvement in it in order to push their respective political agendas.
This is an example of idiot ,know nothing but has always something to say. Ignorance is not blessing. Thank you,Jason Stanley ,but there are just dumb people
The rise of on campus protests for Gaza, sold removal of agency from our schools and our youth. This is tragic and Hass to be corrected in our education system. if we want our country to survive and our values to survive, we must teach them and encourage them
My understanding is that it's largely due to the professors. And it's not JUST Jewish students who are negatively affected. It's Jewish faculty as well. I'm in Canada. In the United States, there's been two murders of Roman Catholic men who were mistaken for Jewish and murdered in hate crimes. These were two totally separate incidents. My point is that everyone is affected, not just the small Jewish community. Absolutely everyone is affected. As for Gaza, I am against the Gaza War. But I am pro-Israel. But these protests are NOT about Gaza. They are about being anti-Israel and against Western civilization and un-American. Completely agree with your comments.
The examples of non-heteosexual sensuality that I've seen have been incredibly graphic, more so than any depictions of heterosexuality for the same age cohort. Is it possible that some of that backlash is a result of aggressive promotion of non-heterosexual sexuality? We need to be honest about this.
Much of what Dr. Stanley says is true, but the Gaza crisis makes me skeptical about the difference between "democratic" and "authoritarian" countries which has become so popular among liberal intellectuals (e.g., Anne Applebaum) and policymakers (Biden and Blinken). How can an "open" and "free" society allow the war atrocities that are occurring in Gaza and the West Bank at the hands of Netanyahu and his cronies? Why do we (verbally and militarily) attack Russia as a brutal, barbaric state when our "dear friends" the Israelis are killing civilians, treating the Palestinians as "untermenschen"? Washington hates Iran because its regime forces women to wear hijabs. It accuses China of "genocide" of the Uighurs in Xinjiang. But neither Iran nor China have been as murderous as Israel, and the US by aiding Israel is also murderous.
You are correct the mask of humanity and human rights worn by uSA politicians have been exposed as a lie, they didn’t operate in a law based manner but violates international law , including human rights to murder innocent people at Israel’s behest( Syria Libya Iraq); and funds genocide in Gaza to protect the biggest terrorist regime in the Middle East ie occupied Palestine ( names israel)! China/ Russia and the majority of the world backs Palestine but USA uses its veto to thwart any ceasefire and despite ICJ rulings threaten the lawyers at the ICJ/ ICC and continue to arm Israel!
A lot of fair points. I would say "open" and "free" doesn't mean perfect, there is a obviously a vast disparity in wealth and power that corrupt the democratic ideal, but it does still mean you're allowed to advocate against the status quo and not have to fear for your life or freedom. We can be systemically entwined with Israel due to a number of past and present circumstances which hold a lot of weight politically, while still allowing our population to dissent and push for different foreign policy without weakening the perceived authority of our government. Corrupt profiteers may be able to twist narratives and manage our democracy through media and obscuring truth, but we have the freedom to challenge the narrative and reform our institutions if enough honest and kind people work to show up on election day and make it happen. I think you also undersell the shortcomings of Iran, China, and Russia.
@@sieda666 I am not sure how free our allegedly "free" society is. I am old enough to remember the Vietnam War protests, when I was a college student. Student protesters were punished - even expelled - for damaging or trespassing (for weeks) on university property. But shouting "Ho Chi Minh is gonna win" or publishing newsletters about how the war was a brutal, colonialist enterprise was tolerated. At one teach-in back in 1965, a local radical came up on the stage and told the audience that an "International Brigade" of revolutionary heroes was being formed to help the Viet Cong fight the American imperialists. As far as I know, nothing happened to him. The US reaction to the war in Gaza is very different. Students, and the public in general, are being punished for showing sympathy for the Palestinians and criticizing Israel as "settler colonialism." The stakes are often high: expulsion from college, blacklisting, and (unpunished) violence from Zionist Zealots. This stuff (esp. the use of "anti-semitism" as a way of purging people) is scary. It's rotting away our constitutional right to free speech. We are falling under the control of cultural commissars.
@@hartubmoses6645 it’s the only genocide which is happening and the western bigots and hypocrites are allowing it, yet quick to sanction Russia over Ukraine!
In the us: I had to read outside the schoolbooks to learn about official native American genocide, manifest destiny, how American eugenicists inspired nazi policy, how American companies supported nazi Germany
If russians don't know the truth about ukraine then why would america think they know better? Oh, that's right because history is written by the winners.
Because there's heavy duty censorship in Russia, that's why Americans COULD know better (although many don't in part because their education system sucks).
I like this guest, agree with most of what he said, and am technically 'on the same team'. Something that I've been noticing for... a few election cycles now though.. I think 'my team' is missing some perspective here. It focuses on the autocratic 'top-down' part of things. Yea, on point on its tactics. But a lot of these movements happen from the bottom-up too, when people are pushed too far, too fast. Trump (and H**ler, and so on) use certain tactics to pour gas on the fire, but they can only do so when there is fire and fuel available. What's happening in Europe - the people there have actual real concerns about things that are negatively hurting their lives. Same in the US. Those things get co-opted by these trash leaders and then put along-side the more extremist platforms... but the reason they can be co-opted is because their opposition all-together ignores those things. 'The beatings will continue until morale improves' is not a winning strategy. Telling people that they are just not 'cultured enough', dismissing their concerns, telling them to downgrade their lives for the sake of people they've never met, all that makes sense in a college class with statistics and research. (I know, I've been in those classes). But it doesn't make sense in real life, when you are talking to someone who just got laid off (and is told the economy is great), whose taxes just grew beyond what they can pay (but its for a good cause!), who looks outside and sees crime increasing (but crime statistics say he shouldn't trust his lying eyes), who just got canceled because of something he said online in his teens (we have to maintain 'purity of thought', no forgiveness!), and so on. Yea, there are parents in info-silos who don't want 'critical race theory' who are extremists. But there are also parents who would be ok with a judgement-agnostic history ('this is our history, the good and bad of everybody') who are not ok with a history that disproportionally focuses on the bad events in their heritage while only showing the highlights of everyone-but-their-ancestors. If we leave fuel like this in our society yea, trash like Trump ('stupid-H**ler) will start a fire with it. And I really wish any time we focused on this stuff we always Always covered that too. Not as in 'both sides', not as in 'let's pretend the bad stuff is good'. But as in 'what are the valid concerns these members of our society have that are common ground'. We can't just keep pushing all of them into Trumpist camps and then get surprised that half the country seems to be in his camp. They aren't there because of Trump, he is human waste and a crime against humanity and many of these people know it. They are there because of us.
If I'm understanding this guest correctly, and I could be wrong, the purpose of controlling education is to create a class of people who are easily manipulated by the top down. So that despite the facts of crime stats going down, you can watch FOX or similar media and have your world view that crime is really getting worse be confirmed continually. So you won't believe the statistics or the science.
Exactly!! I agree with you on most of your points. I do see that sometimes the progressive L folks have taken some things waaaaay too far, and that they’ve been noted as trying to militantly guilt-trip some middle of the road folks into seeing things ONLY from their point of view. This is just one example that I see re: your points. This can be absolutely infuriating. But to your other points: there have been slow, incremental slides to far right agendas happening for at least the last 40 years or so. Last nite for example, PBS aired for the second time the life and history of Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Conner. It was with a fresh set of eyes that I watched it again, and she had been born and raised in a Republican household. A seemingly moderate Republican household, but not sure. However, she of course was a lifelong Republican and a relatively conservative yet REASONABLE voice on the Court. As she navigated an all male, all white Court, she was measured, fair, yet aiming to “conserve” what she thought were American values AT THE TIME. As she became more and more aware of the increased slide towards more radical right wing views, she found herself not only increasingly the swing voter but siding more and more with some of the more progressive views of the Liberal Court. I say all this as a reflection of the sliding of right wing agendas over the course of decades but particularly since Reagan came to office. This was a turning point. And NOW look at SCOTUS!!! Completely a transformed, RADICAL court, and this plays to your point that these things don’t occur in a vacuum. They happen slowly, incrementally, and yet often are led at the grassroots level by someone too afraid of change and progress, that talks to another person also afraid of change and progress, finding some other voice that amplifies their message and well….soon you have “smoke”. Where you have smoke you soon can and will have fire. And that smoke could’ve just been only smoke 20, 30, 40+ years ago.
you're being very kind to her- hard to imagine moderate Republicans in AZ back then. And don't forget, she showed her true strips when she declared shortly before her death, that she thought she was right on Gore v. Bush.
Coming up on the ballot: - open borders, or - hand gov control of uterus Now, what do those two things having in common, who's interests do these two serve? If you get to that answer, and look back at our history, you'll see common thread.
We're already experiencing fascism in America. It has always been here. It has become an accepted political ideology and is excused as part of the culture of some Americans. It is easy to excuse microcosms of fascism, but they are the cogs that bring the machine to life.
@@buzoff4642 Zinn examines American history through a Marxist lens. There’s nothing inherently wrong about this perspective, but it certainly should not be the only opinion one receives in school. Check out: “Debunking Howard Zinn: Exposing the Fake History That Turned a Generation against America”
(one of the false claims made against University professors is that they only promote one viewpoint, when in reality several are inherently exposed in the adult classroom, and the Student is supposed to develop critical thinking skills since they are no longer children.
I would like to hear Prof. Stanley speak about recent history and the novel "1984" and what Orwell got right and wrong over the course of the years since its publication. I don't view Orwell as some great prophet, but I love to read his essays and novels. I'd love to hear him placed in our historical context by someone thinking philosophically about these issues.
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I am a boomer and Black retired U.S. veteran and normally very little that happens in the States moves me emotionally. The topics discussed in this video make me angry. I don't fear the white supremacist republican's and their "Project 2025" because I have seen it all before. I live in Texas, and I have witnessed the ommission of critical American history in my own grandchildren. Their lack of civic engagement and subsequent lack of understanding of the power of their vote I now realize was intentionally taught to them in schools my tax dollars helped to fund. What can be done to turn this awful trend around in Texas and other southern states besides simply voting for Democrats?
Informing family and friends of what has been going on in schools and helping them understand that voting for all levels of local elections,...school boards, judges, sheriffs, every office impacts the systems that allow the right to make and enforce laws that oppress and steal our right to know the truth. Learning about systemic oppression that is rooted in the past but has continued in different forms is vital. When you look for answers, be wary of the sources. Right wing propaganda sites often have names that sound like "traditional values". Don't be afraid of looking for "leftist" sources. The right fear mongers about socialism and keeps people from learning about the best ideas to fight the system and raise up marginalized groups. The cruelties committed on citizens are a class war but disguised as "social and moral" issues to keep the working class fearful of each other and distracted from the agenda of the rich. Educating ourselves, our children and grandchildren, our friends and neighbors if we can, is the best way to fight for the hope of a better future for all. The far right has replaced compassion with vengeance over exaggerated differences. If you are Christian, notice how the things they do and say are very unlike what Jesus would do and challenge that.
Show up and represent at the local level, even if you're going door to door to represent a less-than-perfect candidate you can still have a conversation and perhaps plant a seed of positive change. Volunteer if you can, even if it's getting children to practice reading in an after school setting, you don't have to "indoctrinate" into any specific ideology to try and encourage an enthusiasm for learning and teach them how to back up their ideas with evidence. Make individual connections, so that divisive propaganda is weakened by authentic experience .
@@gmwilliams4314 The democratic party and the republican party have the same objectives. In your vote this November.You choose between someone you personally dislike and another who nobody voted for. Neither candidate will stop bombing kids in gaza. America.
Is the number one sponsor of terror on the planet. We spend 10 times all the other countries combined killing children on every continent.
The banality of evil... You just didn't know All your tax dollars are destroying so many lives.
The last straw might be moving to a less racist and ignorant country. As Black man it moves me emotionally too ancd I would love to welcome you and your grandchildren in Europe. Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
Human history is rife with origin stories. They who revise history win the game. The winners of the myth-making become the hegemonic culture. Men writing in the desert 2000 years ago knew this. Then, years later, they lock it in so you aren't even allowed to discuss it (hence the blasphemy laws and book banning/burning). In a nut shell, we lie to ourselves, and the more people who believe that lie, the better for the power brokers who originate the lie. What do we do about it? Well, we could start by critiquing the actual history of Christianity. The short answer is no. There is nothing you can do about it. We have to keep towing the lie. The talking animals? The empty tomb? The miracles? All fabrication. But, you'd better not talk about it or point out the lies.
"Don't join the book burners. Don't think you are going to conceal faults by concealing the evidence that they ever existed. Don't be afraid to go into your library and read every book". -Dwight D. Eisenhower
TODAY'S RETHYGLICONS HATE EISENHOWER. AFTER ALL, HE IMPOSED A 91% TAX RATE ON ANY $1.00 OVER $400 k MADE THEN, EQUIVALENT TO $4 MILLION TODAY. CAN YOU IMAGINE THE REVENUE BROUGHT IN IF THAT RATE EXISTED TODAY? WE MIGHT HAVE GREAT SCHOOLS, PUBLIC TRANSIT, AND HEALTH CARE FOR FREE!
When did he say that? Probably after McCarthyism. It would have been beneficial to teach about fascism and fascism tactics to teens in the 1940s, so they'd be prepared to recognize McCarthyism and oppose it, instead of being afraid of Communist spies and propagandists among those writing books, making movies and plays, and so on. (Intelligentsia or literati?)
I don't think he meant books depicting gay sex in grade school libraries. That arent being burned. They are still available on line.
@@patricksullivan7140 "read every book"
@@ld4974 There are things in our contemporary books that no sane person could ever have foreseen. I knew an older Conservative guy in the 80's, and I openly laughed at the things he predicted to be on the horizon. Turns out, he never guessed the HALF of it...
Moms for liberty is an abomination of education!
The oxymoron is this entire channel.
@@churblefurbles
So you are a fascist.
@lingyjennifer8399
Far too deep for troll hobbits.
They're a bunch of lunatic nazis! Un-American, all of them. Haters!
@@churblefurbles Move to Russia, Trumpanzee! They already have fascism, homophobism, and racism alive and well there.
Im a doctoral dropout in philosophy turned lawyer. So I love academic philosophy. Jason Stanley is fantastic. He is one of the few able to work in sophisticated academic philosophy and bridge that to real world concerns. That is philosophy at its best. He is an important voice now in our political discourse. I encourage anyone to follow up on his books and talks.
I’m a former philosophy major and I credit that experience with learning to discipline my mind and become a critical thinker. At the base of my learning was logic, and knowing what makes something logical helps you to set aside illogical concepts, like immigrants eating pets
Wth asked??? As you blovate like a popped balloon😂😂😂😂pfffft
@@ATLmodKI agree. Logic was one of my favorite courses in undergrad and then in grad school I dove into many logic courses.
Yes. Jason Stanley is a pre-eminent philosopher in the US today. I just ordered his latest book from Amazon. I have been reading his articles for sometime now…
Investing in the security and well-being of nations like Ukraine and Israel, and extending support to the Iranian people like smart sanctions on Oil exports of Islamic Republic but letting Iranians make money online through services, is crucial because our populations share a common wealth of talents, technologies, and values that foster economic growth, human rights, and fundamental freedoms. This understanding is lost on extremist ideologies like fascism, Marxism, and jihadism, which often rely on zero-sum thinking. For evidence, consider the arguments presented in 'Enlightenment Now' by Steven Pinker. Those who disagree are invited to engage in a constructive debate at Atheist Republic, where we can explore the merits of liberal values and the flaws in authoritarian models. Embracing liberalism allows for mutually beneficial outcomes, whereas extremist ideologies often require someone to lose in order for them to gain.
The algorithm would never suggest this video to the people who really need to hear this and read this book. We have to tell them about it.
Unfortunately, that may be a fool’s errand. Most of these minds are closed tighter than a snapped shut bear trap.
This book is a false narrative. I’m an educator and have been for 25 years and I understand that the Democrats in the left control education at least for the last 1520 years. With the Republicans trying to do is move education a little bit more to the center so therefore Democrats are the ones that are being Nazi like trying to keep control Pure propaganda, taking from Joseph Goebbels himself. Accused the other side of which you are doing. It’s a false narrative. instead of arguing about this, we should just incorporate combination of conservative and liberal views so that way both sides of the spectrum an education not just one side which is the left is trying to control
seriously: tell your neighbors, or anyone who will listen. tons of ppl will listen, corporate media are lying about the number of ppl ok w republican fascism. almost 70% of us are pocs or women. the republicans know their party may die. so many left ppl do not vote bc they are poor, overworked and uninformed.
@@nsnopperabsolutely not a fool’s errand. so many people are just uninformed.
@@donmorris1540 I admire your faith in mankind. Go for it. I still do from time to time. 👍👍
I took a toodle through my child's 5th grade "Social Studies" text book and shot off to the principal's office like a madwoman. There was a full page spread of Robert E Lee with a full illustration on the facing page. In the text we learned he had been 1st in his class at Westpoint, that his horse was named Traveller and that his home was now Arlington Cemetery. What we didn't learn is that he was stripped of his US Citizenship and had turned down the leadership of the Union Armies- potentially causing untold hundreds of thousands to die. This supposed "textbook" was used because it complemented the standardized tests my child was forced to endure and her teachers were forced to prepare her for. This happened in Chicago Illinois- the "Land of Lincoln". The state that elected him Representative. The city Mary Lincoln lived in after the assassination. Abominable. Thanks for this. Mr. Stanley is a treasure and I always look forward to his scholarship.
For years, educational texts were prepared in Texas by a private company.
@@oldbeatpete Texas is the largest purchaser of school text books. So yes, they set the standard for the nation.
But the glorification of Robert E. Lee is pretty wild.
Jeez, that's nuts. Kudos for catching that. What did the principal say?
Texas is also doing the same and worse to Thomas Jefferson.
Yes, because it's super duper dangerous to learn about Robert E Lee...
Democracy is at stake worldwide, but it barely penetrates the minds of the average citizen of (the so far) liberal democracies in the West. The breakdown of that liberal democracy is a creeping and concealing process, the reality of which only dawns on people when the damage has already been done. This is very worrying and deserves all attention!
("freedom's just another word" ... that you don't realize you can really lose- until it's too late.)
"democracy" just means you win, don't pretend otherwise.
@@oldbeatpete which is why the censorious regime in Brazil is favored by our current regime.
@@yamerojones scoff*
@@yamerojonesthe Soviets helped win WWII though-do we consider them to have been democratic?
I grew up in Indiana that at one time had a KKK governor and several lynchings throughout the state. But my textbooks never mentioned any of it.
The erasure of history is so real. The amount of people who have thrown in my face “you were never a slave! No one alive today is a slaver owner!” And all I can think is, “No, but my grand parents were sharecroppers. 1 of my grandparents was actually born on the plantation our family had been forced to labor on. And my parents were never slaves but my mother’s aunt was the child of a slave and my parents integrated the public schools in our city.” This history is not so far behind us.
Your call for vendetta will be heard.
The ability to put People into jail, and force them to work,
sure appears to look like Slavery.
I have seen that working.
Do not allow the Bozos to lie to you.
Facts remain, after the smell of bullshit has blown away.
Good points.
And most of those slaves were BOUGHT from other blacks....start reading, and you'll actually LEARN...go ahead....IF you can handle it...We both know you CAN'T...because education will rob you of your grounds for complaint, and your excuses....and we both know you'll never give those up....
@@TeaParty1776 Nobody here called for a vendetta. @tylerhumphries merely asked that we not pretend that history didn't happen, and very recent history at that.
I went to public schools in Texas. Professor Stanley is right. I am a writer, so read a great deal. But many latinx don’t know the violent past of Texas history, or what Democracy is. They know something is wrong, but feel helpless about it. This is deliberate.
@@heudu7h3brudi Thank you for letting me know what to call myself and my gente! I meant Meskins.
Anyone who uses the term "Latinx" does not deserve to have a say.
Big deal
We had messianic-minded hippie dippy teachers so invested in learning us real good about civil rights that they ran out of time to help us raise our SAT scores that would get us out of the ghetto.
I skipped a lot of school and read the classics by the wharf instead so I came out okay but I will never forgive them for their misedjamacation of my classmates. Honors, mind you. Haha.
Did Professor Stanley state that "the Weimer Republic was not flooded with anti-Semitism"???? Maybe he just mis-spoke or there was an issue with the sound.
A very sobering discussion - well done. I'm 80, and am very concerned about the deeply rooted yearning of a large portion of our population for a "return" to some magical time in the past when things were "as they should be."
I'm 72, and I say a loud, "amen!" to you.
As distinct from "progress" to some magical time in the future when things will be "as they should be?"
@@TeaParty1776 Where are you going with this? What is your point? Do you have a point?
Mans life in society requires a concrete-reality-based, rational culture. This requires learning from the past and planning the future. Past and future are good or bad relative to mans life.
@@Ahmedkhan8802 Individual rights is the rational purpose of foreign policy.
I agree with this gentleman. Black history is American history. We need to stop separating blackness from whiteness. They are the same. We form the same tree even though we share different roots.
Then let’s do away with black history month.
We are all African by descent.
@@JHimminy If the systemic removal of black history did not happen there would be no need- on that we can agree - I would be fine with not having a black history month - because black history would be a mainstream part of any curriculum
@@pjpredhomme7699 I learned about black history in public schools, but I was never taught one bit of my own people’s history. Go figure. But you only care about your own group, you’re merely an ethno-narcissist. All working Americans are the descendants of slaves.
America was built by Europeans period
Good to hear from Jason Stanley again. I would like to hear from him weekly between now and November 5th.
I completely agree with you.
I appreciate Dr. Stanley's research and look forward to seeing him in conversation with others about these topics.
Wth cares...what u think???? Think about it...Poindexter...lighten up
I live in Illinois and work in education... this is not just a "red" or "southern" state problem.
I'm a boomer and can tell you our history books were differant than the ones in Northern states. I'm talking about elementary school. I would think that by the time you reach college age you'd have learned the important parts correctly. But down here it's pure ignorance and pride for "our heritage". Dude, it's not our heritage. It's our shame for some to still think the south won the Civil War. I'm old enough to have seen George Wallace at his worst standing at the door not letting black kids enter. It shames me to this day and this is still a state full of racist and bigots that teach their kids to be the same. I hope to see a difference but it's hard to educate the hate out of people if they don't care to learn the past correctly. Like I said , ignorance runs rampant down here.
I’ve witnessed since the late 90s the degradation of support for education: with more & more adjuncts in colleges, criticism of science and coerced K-12 testing standards, let alone a quarter century+ of budget cuts. If Americans don’t see this by now, it can be a lost cause for us all.
YES! My mother spent $50 a semester on Wisconsin state college tuition. For my daughter, it was $9,000. There is no reason other than budget cuts.
Its called DEI.
@@northernbohemianrealist No, spending simply went off the charts, why would that happen, those institutions are run by the people who watch this channel.
@@yamerojones "Through the roof," "Off the charts," blah blah blah. Think what you want.
Support for education hasn't declined, just for indoctrination. What's wrong with instilling the values of your faith instead of the state?
Maybe that's why *1984* is no longer required reading...
Scratch the surface of the "home school" curriculum and you'll find Christian nationalism, not thinly veiled, at all.
Culture shock, leaving home as young adults.
I was surprised to find this is not entirely true. Kids might home school because they are a serious violinist, an artist, someone gifted at a young age. They might home school for health reasons, or because the kid is 2 years behind in school, or 2 years ahead, and they have a parent able to help them. They do not all wind up as weird adults, as I watched them grow up in my community, though I did not home school. There are wierd families in public school, private school and home school. Too many public school kids are still home in their parents basement at 19. Christian nationalists can be in a public school, private school, home school. I am sorry to say I am finding them everywhere.
@@elspeth8476 I believe freebirdseed is talking about the majority home schooled.
19 year olds, living at home, is not due to education. It's due to importing a labor glut.
1 in 3 under 35 are living at home with no job. A crisis in any country, but media here is dead silent on it. Early 1990s, just about in parallel with NAFTA, "unemployment rate" was redefined, to exclude anyone who's not looked for a job in the past month.
coincidence
When I looked through my homeschooled nephew's christian (Seton) science textbook's index, there was only one mention of evolution, which dismissed the entire theory in a single short paragraph.
This willfully cultivation of scientific ignorance is exceedingly dangerous (witness climate change science denial, which seems to help lay the ground for wider, politicially motivated denial of science, if it conflicts with right-wing goals.)
It's an excellent discussion, thank you Hari for having Jason Stanley on your show. 🗽
Jason Stanley is warming us. I hope the Americans heed what he is telling us before it’s to late.
We probably won't. 😢
Unfortunately, America has been exactly how he describes for the majority of its existence. Republicans are simply reverting back to what they know best. This countries fledgling democratic system of government is actually only 59 years old. Don't believe me. Just ask one of your Black friends to explain my opinion.
He's just another dumb intellectual playing with fire. He thinks if only the right people get in the state won't be a problem. What he doesn't come to terms with is that the state is always the problem. I would like to see him bite the hand that feeds him once in a while. The guy is a court Intellectual.
@@heudu7h3brudi So is Fascism!
Democracy is the problem. Not restoration of our Republic.
When I had to home-school my children due to many moves, this was one of my guiding principles in developing my own curriculum. The effect of this choice was, and is, obvious. My kids read news critically, not consuming news and subsequent media. Plus, their choices in reading material (novels, etc.) reflect this. As adults, they feel dismayed by behind-the-scenes work of fascist American conservatism in many of our systems. Interesting side note, my son is thinking of serving in the military; he believes in the ideal that the US could be. As a disabled veteran with education, I am proud of my kids. They give me hope. What is problematic with this is that I had to wrest control away from our education system - giving the Republicans/GOP want they want: "See! The system is failing. And, we know what to do." The Republican Party lost their way, falling headlong into a modern fascist party.
How can you support the proxy wars the USAINC perpetrates? For what??Trillion a year minimum. Patriotism is ‘mind control’ BS. How about free education, free medical and training for all ppl to have proper jobs? Infrastructure?
Jason Stanley, ERASING HISTORY, so important!!👍🏼
Bizarre to me that parents do t want their children to feel shame about shameful acts in history. Seems to me the parents need an education about how negative emotions can be used to fuel positive actions and outcomes.
In the South, they have a different take on the Civil War---that it wasn't over slavery (it was), and that even it had been, slavery was not really so bad (it was). This lore has been handed down from generation to generation. Only education could break through that fog.
Who says it's about shaming children? Isn't that excuse just parents deflecting their expectations?
@@marymccluer1630 Slavery was not really so bad?
I believe the photo of the man with whip marks all over his back says it all.
Or casket photos of Emit Till, re: Jim Crow.
SHAME!!! You sound like religious fanatics.
@@marymccluer1630but their education says differently. You just don’t like that someone believes differently than you. It’s difference you don’t like. You’re opposed to diversity and believe their can only be ONE (your) Truth. You’re a mindless religious fanatic.
Very informative! I have a Library of books that helped me come to his conclusions!
I plan Get Erasing History to add to my library of knowledge and understanding
White Trash, Slavery By Another Name, The New Jim Crow, excellent resources on our history. All dotted lines, to how we got where we are.
Bravo PBS!!! Enlightening what being set up by many school boards in Florida in many states in America. This man’s knowledge is so very valuable!!! Thank you Mr Srinavarsin. (sp.)
I have lost most of my extended family to the MAGA Party.
A very important piece.
I volunteer and donate for the Blues.
At times it's just so sad.
So many of my extended family are mad at everything.
Max Baucus, a prominent Democrat who was a Committee Chairman on Appropriations Committee's,
was heard to say "The GOP will not allow that."
I have met this man and I understand that the statement reflects the balance that will prevent any Partisan Issues,
from ever emerging from Committee Rooms.
Congress is who regulates the Money that supports any issue that will cost any amount of money.
They are the ones who actually have power to regulate Government actions.
You do need to observe the actions of Congress and understand that Administrations simply perform the actions that relate to other Nations.
They are regulated by Congress.
The Senate selects the Members of a Cabinet who do the actual work.
That seems to indicate the direction that the Administration will take.
Look up Robert Mercer and how he made some major changes in Elections after 2016.....
You’re not alone ❤
Me too.
Very very insightful interview obviously from a person of great standing. What a great guest, this person should be praised for his practical wisdom, great understanding of the subject he talks about, a mind as great as treasure trove , this is someone with great moral character. 👍🏻👍🏻
I learned more from this one interview than months of watching and reading! Thank you Mr. Stanley, again!
Jason's take on the goal of closing the Department of Education was insightful--essentially, close our gaze to potential discriminatory practices in Southern states, allowing Jim Crow to slip back in without much national attention.
Earth created in 6 days.
America was founded by a small handful of white colonists from England.
The constitution was an innovation by a tiny handful of white colonists from England.
The Mayflower was full of people seeking religious freedom.
etc.
Jason Stanley's book on fascism is a real eye opener.
Yes, it a great propaganda piece.
If he also condemned communism, you could open both eyes.
@@TeaParty1776 Communism, socialism and fascism all share the same ideology.
@@imperialmotoring3789 The unfocused mind, altruism, common good.
We’ve been eliminating the department of education for decades, BOTH parties. That’s essentially what we do with “chairships”; corporations pay the professors salaries not the tax payer. It’s outsourcing the department of education…
Outrageous. Only Leftists should guide schools.
Im going to save this so I can rewatch it often and share with my friends. A must hear message for everyone.
Powell memo ( I believe) outwardly stated that wealthy citizens should stop efforts to have an educated prolitariate.Yes, the word prolitariate was used by Powell.
Suggested reading: Trilateral Commission report, "The Crisis Of Democracy", from the early 1970s. Where Euro/Japanese/American elite outline the reasons they believe we have "an excess of democracy".
Excellent video on The Dangers of Weaponizing History and Education! " If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter. ~ George Washington
This needs more views. Half of this country is so dumb
Under-educated is a better descriptor, I think. Such has been in the works for many decades and making the population into a more easily manipulated society. Republicans have consistently used manufactured social issues to divert the attention of voters from their nefarious goals of shifting all wealth from the middle class to the top 10% which the Republicans believe should, by divine right, rule not only the U.S. but the world. People have repeatedly been duped and now that the Republicans believe they have a guy who can take them all the way, they won't back down.
Most folks have been raised to believe rather than think. This is unfortunate. It leads to decision-making based on emotional reactions over intelligent weighing of facts. It makes for easy manipulation of the masses.
Not only not helpful, but comments like that promote belligerence.
There's a whole lot you don't know. Doesn't make you an idiot.
@@JHimminy don't have to, it's pretty clear..check back in history 10 years from now when the maga cult falls. Yes I have a PhD in computer science and I'm a history fan so yes I'm decent in BRAIN
@@JHimminy It's arrogance. A self-assured sense that what one knows is important, and what others know is irrelevant.
❤❤❤❤ Thank you, everybody should hear this.The scapegoat,"the others" I am originally from Czechoslovakia, I know what Nazis( nationalists - we are #1) and fascism are
Hi christina I watch your show every morning or late at night I am Afghan living out of Afghanistan for 43 years but I never stop thinking about my beloved country Afghanistan and Kabul I just saw your interview with NATO secretary general the mistake they made in Afghanistan ,I thought the biggest mistake was that America and NATO didn’t know how to manage the Money they poured in Afghanistan The money went to the pockets of corrupt government and to any one who-had pawer and contractors instead of managing and using the money on people education and life and what ever they should have manage the money the more money they got the more corrupt they become I heard a more then 5billions dollars went to the pocket of criminals and As a result when Neto and allies left Afghanistan People lives was worse then they start And the end Trump and Allies hand Afghanistan to Taliban The day they left wasn’t a mistake the whole 23 years was mistake because of poor management They went to Afghanistan with no plan and left with no plan.war and pooring money can’t solve the problems unless you have a plan with good intentions and right reasons,That wasn’t in Afghanistan case.My warning to any countries ever wants to go to Afghanistan learn from history Don’t go you never win ….Thank you peace and prosperity to Afghanistan and to the whole world.People get civilized for the name of peace.❤❤❤.
true! seeing this like a slow motion existential disaster!
The opposite of fascism is pluralism. Work to maintain and expand pluralism in your society, and this will identify the fascist impulses around you, and give you an outline for how to defeat them.
We are trying!
The USSR was pluralistic and employed Fascist tactics packaged as socialism. Your theory holds no water.
@@weirdshibainu Not all forms of authoritarianism are fascist. I'm no expert on the USSR, and I'm not going to stand up for them.. With that said, would you care to enlighten me on some of their "fascist tactics" so that I can point out to you in real-time how those tactics fail as examples of pluralism? 🙃
@@JP-JustSayin The USSR was a highly pluralistic society. Let's start there. Do you lack even an understanding of how the Soviets operated? Really? Gulags, secret police, no due process, no free press, when someone was found "guilty" their family was often incarcerated as well, use of arbitrary economic pressure, zero private property rights, threats of violence and actual use of violence by the state--- all fascist tactics. Every heard of "The Red Terror"?
@@JP-JustSayin Look up the definition of fascism. Compare it to the USSR's history. It dovetails perfectly. Stalin was a Georgian, a region that held nothing but contempt for Russia and smaller than Russia. Stalin exploited age old enmities to consolidate power.
M. Moscow
A. Agents
G.grooming
A. Americans and Canadians
Democrats are communist.
Morons Against a Greater America.
@@okigi-wo5zmRussian Republicanism.
D. Democrats
N. Need
C. Communism
That's spot on. 😢
To me it is like that saying, "high school never ends." The bullies at my high school were unfortunately allowed to do almost anything they wanted in the mid 1970's. Looking back it was really, really bad. I hope it is different now. But to me, that is autocracy and fascism. The wanted to do whatever they wanted and would do almost anything to terrify others into letting them.
That's the thing about unmitigated greed and corruption. It grows.
@@JHimminy Don't blame the government. The teachers were of course terrified of any action taken against bullies because of...their parents. Get it? The only solution is cameras in classrooms recording everything all the time. Just like we now see the police acting badly, we would see teachers ignoring the worst acts of sadism because they do not want to deal with it.
@@JHimminy We had bullies in private school too. And, we had teachers that were bullies also, in public and private school.
@@JHimminy Your private schools are mostly religious so that is on you.
oh I wholeheartedly agree - I see this time and time again. In groups we really expand very little beyond those early developmental dynamics . I work in an industry where - it is plain to see that people who were very nerdy when they were young become important / powerful - and it is very very evident in many of them - that they bare that resentment -right near the surface - it is fascinating to watch .
Excellent overview thank you
Did you just call donOLD a creep? Good work. At last a Journalist tells us something useful.
The U.S. has the LARGEST university system in the world! Whether it's the "greatest" or not, is up for debate.
You make it sound like the Federal gov runs that, it doesnt. Each of the 50 states has numerous ways to impact the effectiveness and type of education that is available at the public k-12 and college campuses
Democracy requires a truly informed electorate a healthy electoral process and transparency top to bottom.
Much to my surprise, my state, New Hampshire (trending purple), one of the top in the nation for transparency, and immediate neighbor, Massachusetts (blue), one of the least transparent in the nation.
We're being gamed, bilked and deflected, from so many directions, in election processes, and in our economic lives.
Your mystical idealism is noted.
This is such an eye opening interview. Thank you so much for interviewing Jason Stanley.
The quality of education in the US is shocking.
To become a more perfect union, we have to have to ability to criticize the past. If we don’t know our history, or our history is altered from reality, it is hard to critique it. And, thus we can never work toward a more perfect union as enshrined in the founding documents of the country.
It also means the public doesn't recognize the dotted lines to today's malfunction.
Example: England swept their streets of indigent and orphans and sent them to the colonies, as indentured. Origin of US is free labor, and still is today, aka wage theft. Particularly from migrants and immigrants.
You cannot steer the country unless you realize where you’ve been to direct where you’re going to.
Jason Stanley is my favorite. 😍
The political/wealthy class have known for centuries that fear mongering, otherisms and division are essential tools for maintaining power and control.
As democracy is threatened around the world... What an opening line. The World has never had it and the USA has it at its lowest point.
The subjective destructiveness of democracy was experienced and understood in ancient Greece. From that , it was understood by America's Founders.
Thank you for this truth
The military plays Fox News where ever the young soldiers have leisure time.
Wow! Jason thank you that was so open, informative and mind opening. I am most definitely going to start buying your books. In less than 20 minutes you've taught me so much, so clearly and so objectively. Thank you
We need to look at the details of these authoritarian ideals.
I am boomer and jumped around 3 different colleges. I went to a state university in the south, a state university in the north, and a private school in the south (I didn't stay there long because of money.) I took 4 different American History courses. I can tell you that schools in the south taught a different history.
MAGA and Mom's for Liberty is excellerating this but its been going on. I'm 40 and went though public school in KS and we were not taught real history. I had teachers that told our class "slavery wasn't all that bad for Black people, most slavemasters worked along side their slaves"
Our books did not cover Black self determination or social movements, only the civil rights movement and only briefly. It wasn't until I got to college, an HBCU, that I learned the real history of slave rebellions and social movements.
Ours did. We learned about all of this during k-12. Your schools either sucked hard or you’ve just conveniently forgot that virtually all schools teach this shit, but no one cares because it doesn’t matter. US will be largely non-white in 40-50yrs, and the new citizens won’t give two shits about this because it doesn’t concern them. 🤷🏼♂️
How would you know, have you learned about chinese history or any other history in depth to have a basis for context. You just want a personal narrative.
I feel that some facts about slavery that should be included are: (1) It's been a reality throughout history, (2) white people have been slaves (owned by whites or even Blacks depending on the time and place), (2) all races have been slaves, (3) slavery occurred in the North and the only reason it ended there was the Industrial Revolution, (4) humans who can hold power over others WILL.
Our rights are dependent on one another's rights.
@@TanyaOsterman-hw9wv she doesn't care, history of the world revolves around a few years of confederacy and the 60s to them, there is no world or context outside of this.
Thank you, Jason Stanley. I’m a 66 year old Canadian, born 15 years after WW2, and have been following the dumbing down of the US through the education system for many years and I cannot believe I’m witnessing the rise of Fascism in my lifetime, especially in a country that assisted in defeating the NAZIs
Florida and Texas have 66 representatives. 45 are republicans and 20 are democrats. This representation does not represent its citizens. The minority population who are very extreme in their views are running the show. This is not good people. We are really looking at 1930s Germany, oh and don’t forget that Germany is 65% right wing leaning at this time in their own political system. The hatred of immigrants is the power that the alt right has. Our Democrats better talk to talk or they will never get elected. Americans have been taught to blame others for their ills. Remember, it’s everyone else’s fault that America is in the decline instead of realizing that was the plan. Authoritative governing only comes when a nation is collapsing.
Gerrymandering. We need to replace single-seat districts with multi-member proportional representation and replace plurality voting wiht a fairer voting system.
I think it's coming, in part, because our yawning and yet still growing extremes in wealth inequality. We have a lot of homelessness, we have a shrinking middle class, and we have billionaires vacationing in outer space. The number of people in this country paying basic bills with credit cards is resulting in trillions of dollars in collective debt. The frustration and the desperation is growing. And for those looking for a quick solution, what could yield faster results than an "I alone can fix it" guy? A dictator they can vote int to office.
@@trevinbeattie4888 I don't think it needs to be that complicated.
We need to outlaw voter party declaration. We need to banish "the parties" from any input or control over election processes, as they have an inherent conflict of interests.
@@marymccluer1630 Keep going, Mary. Root cause of these is ...?
Super informative, thank you for airing this
These authoritarians seem to want to erase everything that might cause them embarrassment, shame, or discomfort. It's a wonder that they have not put out their own version of the Bible, which eliminated the Crucifixion. After all, who wouldn't feel at least a little discomfort by the story?
The authoritarian are after power. They're in the process of using anything to rabble rouse and divide, for divide and conquer. It's working beautifully, we're proliferating billionaires.
I have read all his books including his latest. He's excellent.
Literally could be talking about israel which erases palestinians and acts like they're not a real people
Yes absolutely
Wow! @user-ib3ln8mk8z has no embarrassment.
The Romans destroyed the temple, the Crusaders tried to wipe out the Jewish and Muslim populations, but through the centuries, the Muslims accepted Jews in the levant. I wonder how many Israelis understand that. Very few Americans do, as demonstrated by that atrocious response.
You don't see how it could also be the dominant ethnicity and religion in the middle east (also descendents of the locally dominant and pioneers of the slave trade the colonial Ottoman empire) could be scapegoating a tiny religious minority to consolidate their own power?
Could it be that you are also being manipulated?
@@frankbenevolence How's "violent settlers" and "mowing the lawn" skew by the dominant ethnicity and religion in the middle east?
Israel can't commit to what it claims is its own border. How's that supposed to work?
both sides go waaaaaay back.
*_EXCELLENT!_*
Putin is the 21st Century version of Hitler, using all the same language and tactics. Hitler invaded and annexed his neighbors territories in order to 1) protect German minorities, 2) correct the historical wrong of the WW1 treaty, 3) bring back German glory, and 4) expand the range for German culture (lebensraum). Putin has invaded his neighbors 5 times now and annexed their land, saying he needs to 1) protect Russian minorities, 2) correct the historical wrong that was the break-up of the USSR, and 3) bring back the glory of Imperial Russia, and 4) expand the range of the "Russian world". And the Kremlin even threw in some anti-Semitism when Lavrov said the Jews were partially to blame for the Holocaust.
Yeah there are certainly similarities - but there are also very definite differences. Hitler was a lot of things - but I am not aware of him being out for personal material gain - sure he was able to construct an opulent lifestyle but it was not at all his primary aim. Wars / conflict are pretty much always over resources on some level . But I believe a lot of Putin's desired conquests have more to do with consolidating power and distracting from his plundering of state resources . The same can be said for nearly all the current authoritarians . They are much more a mafia state than anything ideological
Do you know what was Nazi Germany? Haven't you heard about the Holocaust and the Serbian Genocide during WW2? I don't like Putin BUT is it really necessary to compare to Nazi Germany? Remember that Nazi Germany almost succeeded in erasing NOT ONLY the European Jewish community BUT EVEN those who were simply part-Jewish (one Jewish grandparent). It was NEVER intended to erase a RELIGION. It was intended to erase AN ETHNIC GROUP.
Holocaust Denial. Putin does NOT have a mission to erase all Ukrainians all over the world. You need Holocaust education. Hitler and Nazi Germany specifically wanted to erase all Jews and even part-Jewish people from Europe and North Africa. In time, it would have also been spread to the Middle East.
Last time I checked, Putin and Russia were NOT targeting Ukrainians in England, France, and other European countries.
@@pjpredhomme7699 Hitler was motivated by IDEOLOGY. Hitler had spiritual beliefs that are related to those of Native American Indians. Hitler was a pagan/pantheist and was motivated by a battle of ethnicities. Hitler referred to ethnicities as RACES; though, technically, they would be ethnic groups. Someone can have more than one ethnicity: Some Jews are both Jewish and Spanish; or both Jewish and French. Jews are an ethnic group. I know someone who is Jewish and has an Italian background.
Bottom line: Hitler was motivated by IDEOLOGY. Nazi Ideology is AN IDEOLOGY. That's probably why Nazi Germany was far more dangerous than Russia. Russia is NOT trying to erase all Ukrainians from Europe; Hitler specifically wanted to erase all Jews and even part-Jewish people from Europe and North Africa. In time, this would have spread to the Middle East.
@@pjpredhomme7699 The root of war is statism.
-Ayn Rand
What a great explanation, this guy really knows his stuff.
Consider all the MAGA fans are also flat earthers....
There is the "faith, not facts" mind-set.
Keep voting for lizards bro. 🌎🤪🤡
Anytime you limit the education of the masses you walk a slippery path to self righteousness
We tend to blame people for being "stupid", that America has lost critical thinking skills. I suggest "crowd psychology"- crowds are influenced by deindividuation (a suspension of disbelief), AND cognitive biases, such as confirmation bias (we prefer information supporting our existing beliefs and ignore conflicting information). I believe Mr Stanley is highlighting "both conditions increase in magnitude with size of the crowd." Wikipedia
Group think.
"We" aren't blaming people. A very small faction of the Far Left and Far Right are.
I have denied knowledge therefore, in order to make room for faith.
-Kant, the top modern philosopher, obviously a Trumpista.
German here. It's not only that the AfD has come to power, it's also that the other parties, those, that have the word "Christian" in their titles (like CDU/CSU) and those that consider themselves to be more focussed on social issues (SPD) than others have become increasingly right-wing. All I can say to that, as someone who has to live off social welfare owing to having gotten chronically ill and unable to work at around 40 after having worked full-time for about 15 years, is: I am SO relieved I have not had any children (despite having wanted children all my life). I wouldn't know how to explain to my children that who would have been their fellow human beings care more about hate, money and power than providing every person with what they need to lead a healthy life.
I agree with Professor Stanley but what blows me away are the institutions like Yale, Harvard and Columbia, how they quickly buckled under what I saw as minimal pressure. We've read that donors told those schools if they didn't condemn those student protesters they'd stop donating to those institutions. That would have been the time for those Ivy League Institutions to show politicians and donors their mettle about American's Constitutional rights. These are schools with endowments in the tens of billions of dollars, they could have weathered the storm but they all chose to cave.
I doubt they've any use for the monies but to add to their endowment funds. Aka, greed.
Minimal pressure? The Columbia encampment produced tens of thousands in damage as well as holding a janitor against his will! And, yet, no arrests. That should tell you who holds the real power.
That is pretty naive - yes the schools have endowments - but those professors - earn their keep and advance their stature by conducting research - that relies upon outside funding - very often - corporations - trusts and you are not going to find many if any that are going to buck against that .
@@pjpredhomme7699 Professors don't conduct research, they oversee others that do. And those others, the RAs, post-docs, etc. are paid so little they're protesting and going on strike.
If Perdue could hold the costs down, others can. They choose not to.
Preserving their personal stature, we call corruption. Ethics comes at a price.
@@pjpredhomme7699 I agree with what you're saying but I also believe that business model is seriously flawed. When those corporations fund that research and the research goes against their product, the corporations bury the data or they bribe the researchers to put their product in a positive light hence why Cocoa Puffs is considered part of a balanced breakfast or that Ketchup is considered a vegetable. Basically that model is holding back progress and it applies to many fields.
Wow! I have to read more of his work.
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In America, particularly conservatives hate the view of history as the cumulstive actions of everyday men and women because that view of history was developed by Karl Marx.
You lost me with the student protests against Israel. It is a total misnomer about war on Gaza when Israel is responding to attacks from Gaza, Lebanon, Yemen and Iran. Taking possession of university property and keeping out people who are Jewish who don’t agree with you is itself fascist, not the response.
OR it could be, Palestinians responding to decades of attacks by Israelis? Taking possession of property and keeping out people who are Palestinian who were born there and don't agree with you is itself fascist, not the response.
@@JarheadMcLovin you have that backwards, it’s decades of Palestinian Arabs and other Arabs from 11 countries attacking Israel almost nonstop since 1948, the pogroms started in 1920 when the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem extorted his followers to kill the Jews of Hebron and sacked their temple. Why most of the Jews in that town fled, after living there for 3,500 years. Don’t follow last weeks news, look back and see that the Arabs have been launching raids into Israel constantly since 1948. As far as taking land, you start a war, lose, you lose land. Solution is to stop attacking.
both sides are wrong. This tribal conflict goes back to the time of the Neanderthals and Habilis.
@@oldbeatpete US tax monies is being used to fund a genocide. They've every right to protest. User's argument would've stopped: Selma, Million Man March, Vietnam protests, etc..
@@oldbeatpete actually no, one side is wrong and the other is trying to survive….if the Palestinians stop attacking there would be peace, if Israel stops defending there would be a genocide.
Thanks for your eloquence on authoritative regimes. In that regard, I worry about Uganda's current political situation
In Va the Robber Barons are now "Captains of Industry!"
Every source I have found online which lists them as "captains of industry" also includes a sentence immediately afterwards explaining that they are also known as Robber Barons.
Honestly, having both terms as well as the additional nuance explaining the distinction and reasoning for both terms, seems better to me than just calling them robber barons. Whether you like it or not, many of the things we consider necessary to American culture came about because of these people.
I would prefer people be given both terms and told that they are controversial because of the fact that they brought about a lot of good changes but did it by stepping on everyone in their way.
Being able to understand that distinction is important and something that should not be removed
@@ThatonedudeCR12956 Aka, corruption.
This is very good and needs to be shared widely.
Professor clutches pearls as he tells us Florida is "getting rid of tenure!". Tenure today is far from what the original intention of it was. (Sort of like the police union)
as a ukrainian, the rise of far right extremism and authoritarianism is so fucking depressing.
Student movements for terrorism are not "anti-war" when they never oppose Islamist perpetrators of war, like Asad.
Is this supposed to be related to this video? I think you commented on the wrong video.
It is pretty obvious to me that the pro-Hamas "protesters" are just right-wing agent provocateurs, right-wing tools set up to split the left.
@@ThatonedudeCR12956I believe he’s referring to the protests against Israel’s attacks in Gaza, but he deliberately ignores the fact that these protests deliberately ignore Hamas’ attacks on Israel. Seems to me that both sides are oversimplifying the conflict and overestimating the US’ involvement in it in order to push their respective political agendas.
This is an example of idiot ,know nothing but has always something to say. Ignorance is not blessing.
Thank you,Jason Stanley ,but there are just dumb people
The rise of on campus protests for Gaza, sold removal of agency from our schools and our youth. This is tragic and Hass to be corrected in our education system. if we want our country to survive and our values to survive, we must teach them and encourage them
My understanding is that it's largely due to the professors. And it's not JUST Jewish students who are negatively affected. It's Jewish faculty as well. I'm in Canada. In the United States, there's been two murders of Roman Catholic men who were mistaken for Jewish and murdered in hate crimes. These were two totally separate incidents. My point is that everyone is affected, not just the small Jewish community. Absolutely everyone is affected.
As for Gaza, I am against the Gaza War. But I am pro-Israel. But these protests are NOT about Gaza. They are about being anti-Israel and against Western civilization and un-American. Completely agree with your comments.
> sold removal of agency from our schools and our youth.
Attack on free will? Your claim is obscure.
The examples of non-heteosexual sensuality that I've seen have been incredibly graphic, more so than any depictions of heterosexuality for the same age cohort. Is it possible that some of that backlash is a result of aggressive promotion of non-heterosexual sexuality? We need to be honest about this.
Thank you for the information.
Much of what Dr. Stanley says is true, but the Gaza crisis makes me skeptical about the difference between "democratic" and "authoritarian" countries which has become so popular among liberal intellectuals (e.g., Anne Applebaum) and policymakers (Biden and Blinken). How can an "open" and "free" society allow the war atrocities that are occurring in Gaza and the West Bank at the hands of Netanyahu and his cronies? Why do we (verbally and militarily) attack Russia as a brutal, barbaric state when our "dear friends" the Israelis are killing civilians, treating the Palestinians as "untermenschen"?
Washington hates Iran because its regime forces women to wear hijabs. It accuses China of "genocide" of the Uighurs in Xinjiang. But neither Iran nor China have been as murderous as Israel, and the US by aiding Israel is also murderous.
You are correct the mask of humanity and human rights worn by uSA politicians have been exposed as a lie, they didn’t operate in a law based manner but violates international law , including human rights to murder innocent people at Israel’s behest( Syria Libya Iraq); and funds genocide in Gaza to protect the biggest terrorist regime in the Middle East ie occupied Palestine ( names israel)! China/ Russia and the majority of the world backs Palestine but USA uses its veto to thwart any ceasefire and despite ICJ rulings threaten the lawyers at the ICJ/ ICC and continue to arm Israel!
A lot of fair points. I would say "open" and "free" doesn't mean perfect, there is a obviously a vast disparity in wealth and power that corrupt the democratic ideal, but it does still mean you're allowed to advocate against the status quo and not have to fear for your life or freedom. We can be systemically entwined with Israel due to a number of past and present circumstances which hold a lot of weight politically, while still allowing our population to dissent and push for different foreign policy without weakening the perceived authority of our government. Corrupt profiteers may be able to twist narratives and manage our democracy through media and obscuring truth, but we have the freedom to challenge the narrative and reform our institutions if enough honest and kind people work to show up on election day and make it happen.
I think you also undersell the shortcomings of Iran, China, and Russia.
I hope you don't think war atrocities is happening only in Gaza.
@@sieda666 I am not sure how free our allegedly "free" society is. I am old enough to remember the Vietnam War protests, when I was a college student. Student protesters were punished - even expelled - for damaging or trespassing (for weeks) on university property. But shouting "Ho Chi Minh is gonna win" or publishing newsletters about how the war was a brutal, colonialist enterprise was tolerated. At one teach-in back in 1965, a local radical came up on the stage and told the audience that an "International Brigade" of revolutionary heroes was being formed to help the Viet Cong fight the American imperialists. As far as I know, nothing happened to him.
The US reaction to the war in Gaza is very different. Students, and the public in general, are being punished for showing sympathy for the Palestinians and criticizing Israel as "settler colonialism." The stakes are often high: expulsion from college, blacklisting, and (unpunished) violence from Zionist Zealots. This stuff (esp. the use of "anti-semitism" as a way of purging people) is scary. It's rotting away our constitutional right to free speech. We are falling under the control of cultural commissars.
@@hartubmoses6645 it’s the only genocide which is happening and the western bigots and hypocrites are allowing it, yet quick to sanction Russia over Ukraine!
Thank you 💙
You left out neoliberalism
Neoliberalism is conservatism. Bush/Cheney = Neoliberal
Neocons were the neoliberal wing of the republican party.
In the us: I had to read outside the schoolbooks to learn about official native American genocide, manifest destiny, how American eugenicists inspired nazi policy, how American companies supported nazi Germany
And I had to read outside the schoolbooks to learn that Leftism and and Rightism are anti-West. Your intellectual independence is...uh, inspiring.
If russians don't know the truth about ukraine then why would america think they know better?
Oh, that's right because history is written by the winners.
Luckily we don’t have to rely on ancient scriptures anymore
@@Ferst60 I don't think we ever did.
Because there's heavy duty censorship in Russia, that's why Americans COULD know better (although many don't in part because their education system sucks).
Just because someone chooses to ignore the truth or say that it is untrue, does not make it nonexistent. The truth always rises to the top.
I like this guest, agree with most of what he said, and am technically 'on the same team'. Something that I've been noticing for... a few election cycles now though.. I think 'my team' is missing some perspective here. It focuses on the autocratic 'top-down' part of things. Yea, on point on its tactics. But a lot of these movements happen from the bottom-up too, when people are pushed too far, too fast. Trump (and H**ler, and so on) use certain tactics to pour gas on the fire, but they can only do so when there is fire and fuel available.
What's happening in Europe - the people there have actual real concerns about things that are negatively hurting their lives. Same in the US. Those things get co-opted by these trash leaders and then put along-side the more extremist platforms... but the reason they can be co-opted is because their opposition all-together ignores those things. 'The beatings will continue until morale improves' is not a winning strategy. Telling people that they are just not 'cultured enough', dismissing their concerns, telling them to downgrade their lives for the sake of people they've never met, all that makes sense in a college class with statistics and research. (I know, I've been in those classes). But it doesn't make sense in real life, when you are talking to someone who just got laid off (and is told the economy is great), whose taxes just grew beyond what they can pay (but its for a good cause!), who looks outside and sees crime increasing (but crime statistics say he shouldn't trust his lying eyes), who just got canceled because of something he said online in his teens (we have to maintain 'purity of thought', no forgiveness!), and so on. Yea, there are parents in info-silos who don't want 'critical race theory' who are extremists. But there are also parents who would be ok with a judgement-agnostic history ('this is our history, the good and bad of everybody') who are not ok with a history that disproportionally focuses on the bad events in their heritage while only showing the highlights of everyone-but-their-ancestors.
If we leave fuel like this in our society yea, trash like Trump ('stupid-H**ler) will start a fire with it. And I really wish any time we focused on this stuff we always Always covered that too. Not as in 'both sides', not as in 'let's pretend the bad stuff is good'. But as in 'what are the valid concerns these members of our society have that are common ground'. We can't just keep pushing all of them into Trumpist camps and then get surprised that half the country seems to be in his camp. They aren't there because of Trump, he is human waste and a crime against humanity and many of these people know it. They are there because of us.
If I'm understanding this guest correctly, and I could be wrong, the purpose of controlling education is to create a class of people who are easily manipulated by the top down. So that despite the facts of crime stats going down, you can watch FOX or similar media and have your world view that crime is really getting worse be confirmed continually. So you won't believe the statistics or the science.
Exactly!!
I agree with you on most of your points. I do see that sometimes the progressive L folks have taken some things waaaaay too far, and that they’ve been noted as trying to militantly guilt-trip some middle of the road folks into seeing things ONLY from their point of view. This is just one example that I see re: your points. This can be absolutely infuriating.
But to your other points: there have been slow, incremental slides to far right agendas happening for at least the last 40 years or so. Last nite for example, PBS aired for the second time the life and history of Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Conner. It was with a fresh set of eyes that I watched it again, and she had been born and raised in a Republican household. A seemingly moderate Republican household, but not sure. However, she of course was a lifelong Republican and a relatively conservative yet REASONABLE voice on the Court. As she navigated an all male, all white Court, she was measured, fair, yet aiming to “conserve” what she thought were American values AT THE TIME. As she became more and more aware of the increased slide towards more radical right wing views, she found herself not only increasingly the swing voter but siding more and more with some of the more progressive views of the Liberal Court. I say all this as a reflection of the sliding of right wing agendas over the course of decades but particularly since Reagan came to office. This was a turning point. And NOW look at SCOTUS!!! Completely a transformed, RADICAL court, and this plays to your point that these things don’t occur in a vacuum. They happen slowly, incrementally, and yet often are led at the grassroots level by someone too afraid of change and progress, that talks to another person also afraid of change and progress, finding some other voice that amplifies their message and well….soon you have “smoke”. Where you have smoke you soon can and will have fire. And that smoke could’ve just been only smoke 20, 30, 40+ years ago.
you're being very kind to her- hard to imagine moderate Republicans in AZ back then. And don't forget, she showed her true strips when she declared shortly before her death, that she thought she was right on Gore v. Bush.
Coming up on the ballot:
- open borders, or
- hand gov control of uterus
Now, what do those two things having in common, who's interests do these two serve?
If you get to that answer, and look back at our history, you'll see common thread.
We're already experiencing fascism in America. It has always been here. It has become an accepted political ideology and is excused as part of the culture of some Americans. It is easy to excuse microcosms of fascism, but they are the cogs that bring the machine to life.
Economic fascism is regulation, supported by Left and Right. See the economies and ideals of Hitler and Mussolini.
Stanley, as usual, is mostly wrong here. He's simply arguing for a Howard Zinn interpretation of history.
oops, you have it wrong.
Do cite what's inaccurate in Howard Zinn's history, that you consider it an interpretation.
@@buzoff4642
Zinn examines American history through a Marxist lens. There’s nothing inherently wrong about this perspective, but it certainly should not be the only opinion one receives in school.
Check out:
“Debunking Howard Zinn: Exposing the Fake History That Turned a Generation against America”
(one of the false claims made against University professors is that they only promote one viewpoint, when in reality several are inherently exposed in the adult classroom, and the Student is supposed to develop critical thinking skills since they are no longer children.
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!! Thank you, reminding me why APPEASEMENT never ever worked
Appeasement works to temporarily decrease the fear of self-defense.
Jason Stanley was the voice of reason on twitter, it was Indian far right trolls that drove him away.
I would like to hear Prof. Stanley speak about recent history and the novel "1984" and what Orwell got right and wrong over the course of the years since its publication. I don't view Orwell as some great prophet, but I love to read his essays and novels. I'd love to hear him placed in our historical context by someone thinking philosophically about these issues.
Thank you
Thank you Amanpour.
Excellent book
Excellent and accessible. Thank you. 👍