*Note* When fleeing from a charge you take the *charge range* , so your spider would of gone (7+6+3) (Movement + D6 + Swiftstride is only 3 not 6 and no penalty from woods as you have move through cover). *Counter charge* you pivot for free then move the 2 to 4 inches. I wouldn't say his list is busted when your bringing a Wyvern, Arachnarok Spider and 2 Mangler Squig that like 850 points just in monsters.
@@XirianekWhile fanatic are even greater this edition then before, characters on chariots are even more disgusting as they double the characters wounds. I wonder if he did an impetuous test with his wizard on chariot? Don't hate his army he just playing by the rules at a tournament. I guess we wait until the army books to come out to see if they fix the monster meta.
@@chihammerfantasybattles8588 while I have your attention. If I understand correctly when a character is on top of him he becomes a chariot and thus is immune to killing blow and monster slayer. Is that accurate?
Spectral doppelganger isn't super easy to get off,but that combo is very strong.it just takes a lot of setting up. Helblasters are a glass cannon defo. I'm not sure his list is remotely bent though. I stand by the fanatics claim,there is no counter play other than get incredibly lucky and kill all those wounds.really hate how they play! Awsome game though mate and fair play to your opponent for getting salty as heck but being a gent to you! He can't help the emotions but could be a dusche.
Love your work as always, congrats on the win. Can you clarify for those watching at home what caused the panic tests after the spider charged the hellblaster gun? It's under US5 so it wouldn't have caused panic on any of those things? Also the spider should have gone full speed on that charge shouldn't it? it's not a failed charge when they flee?
Pretty sure the broken doppelganger BS is a heavy oversight from GW and not intended to be used with the mace, fellblade, white blade and so on. Hopefully a FAQ will sort it out later
All weapons that attack normally would make sense to use with doppelgänger, however, the mace that only allows a single attack gets broken by the spell because it bypasses and intended limitations. Using the mace with a single hand would be ok.
I don' think all his units were supossed to flee after failing panic tests as they were over 50% of initial unit strenght. Just fall back in good order.
Hehe what a great game LMAO. I've had my army run off the table before now and it wasn't all that fun, but the other player really enjoyed it. Spectral doppelganger is very broken, especially with Brets because you cannot attack their caster. Well done!
It's the banner of butchery. I've been saying the wrong banner lmao.. It's the +1 Str Banner on charge, since they always count as charging with counter charge and regular charges
*Note* When fleeing from a charge you take the *charge range* , so your spider would of gone (7+6+3) (Movement + D6 + Swiftstride is only 3 not 6 and no penalty from woods as you have move through cover).
*Counter charge* you pivot for free then move the 2 to 4 inches.
I wouldn't say his list is busted when your bringing a Wyvern, Arachnarok Spider and 2 Mangler Squig that like 850 points just in monsters.
"would have gone"
Yeah - sick/toxic green army - also fanatics…
@@XirianekWhile fanatic are even greater this edition then before, characters on chariots are even more disgusting as they double the characters wounds.
I wonder if he did an impetuous test with his wizard on chariot?
Don't hate his army he just playing by the rules at a tournament. I guess we wait until the army books to come out to see if they fix the monster meta.
@@grlmgorbut he also hate others? 😅
Very nice report, once again. It's a fun bit of nostalgia, seeing solid tournament play of the game I loved so much in 6th and 7th.
'Just don't call it a comeback!' Loving the Old World vids, thanks man!
Congrats on the win man! Really cool to hear my tunes in the intro too! Love it!
Great series of vids and reviews. Congrats again James.
Your army looks amazing!! I would love more pictures of the spider, I’m building mine tomorrow
There is about a decade of battle reports hes in most of them
@@chihammerfantasybattles8588 while I have your attention. If I understand correctly when a character is on top of him he becomes a chariot and thus is immune to killing blow and monster slayer. Is that accurate?
@johnnnysaint01 incorrect. When a character is on a dragon, spider, etc he is very vulnerable to monster killing blow.
Spectral doppelganger isn't super easy to get off,but that combo is very strong.it just takes a lot of setting up.
Helblasters are a glass cannon defo.
I'm not sure his list is remotely bent though.
I stand by the fanatics claim,there is no counter play other than get incredibly lucky and kill all those wounds.really hate how they play!
Awsome game though mate and fair play to your opponent for getting salty as heck but being a gent to you! He can't help the emotions but could be a dusche.
Good job! Well done on the win.
thanks buddy
Love your work as always, congrats on the win. Can you clarify for those watching at home what caused the panic tests after the spider charged the hellblaster gun? It's under US5 so it wouldn't have caused panic on any of those things? Also the spider should have gone full speed on that charge shouldn't it? it's not a failed charge when they flee?
Pretty sure the broken doppelganger BS is a heavy oversight from GW and not intended to be used with the mace, fellblade, white blade and so on. Hopefully a FAQ will sort it out later
All weapons that attack normally would make sense to use with doppelgänger, however, the mace that only allows a single attack gets broken by the spell because it bypasses and intended limitations. Using the mace with a single hand would be ok.
Hellblaster only has range of 24"; he couldn't reach you turn 1 based on photos.
100% that was my question as well
Could be the deployment were youre only 18 apart
He didn't deploy at 12" with his cavalry so no way he is within 24"
Chihammer out here writing Warhammer history :) Congratulations
Empire list is illegal. The General must have always the greater Ld on any army
I've never faced a hell blaster but plenty of magiced organ guns.
I don' think all his units were supossed to flee after failing panic tests as they were over 50% of initial unit strenght. Just fall back in good order.
The issue is he was too close to board edge
Hehe what a great game LMAO. I've had my army run off the table before now and it wasn't all that fun, but the other player really enjoyed it. Spectral doppelganger is very broken, especially with Brets because you cannot attack their caster. Well done!
Congrats on the win
Best coast pairings actually shows you as 3rd place and the high elf player as the winner
Dunno, we both had 20,20,20 wins. Objectives. I had better paint, and you saw me get overall on the video. I say it's user error by the judges
@chihammerfantasybattles8588 BCP doesn't take painting into account so that will be it
Pretty sure I'd never be excited to face against you in a tournament either! Casual game, hell yeah.
How could u assume those were forests? There is not a single tree anywhere?!? 😂😂
I blame rick
I would have assumed they were marshlands.
Hell yeah! Been waiting for this! 😁
Tell'em about the gun line boss!
I've seen a few games lately of people losing for no BSB. Hard to make points for them though at 2k.
It's hard to take them at 2 wounds
That mark got worked into a shoot brother.
In previous videos you mention you play online. Where and what system do you use to play online may I ask? Thank you, loved following the tournament
Universal battle and warhall
Dosnt grand master make his unit immune to psyk?
Well that unit didn't panic
@@chihammerfantasybattles8588 didnt demi pips run off the board from the hellblaster flee?
@@Omalley69 from the outriders that fell off the table
You’re the luckiest mf alive, James 😂
"Schaumburg" technically... :)
I would also assume those are area terrain like forests, why have them otherwise?
There are other types of terrains that don't black LoS, like marshlands, bogs, swamps, etc?
Congratulations
Thats some serious luck right there..
We call it Silva luck
@@chihammerfantasybattles8588 For sure, congrats aswell btw
Mixing up the percentage win condition is startling dude, real strange. You really thought all you had to do was KILL 25% not 75%?? 😳🤦
Lmao yea! I was like wtf he only needs to kill goblins to win!?!
Oof filthy empire list, I guess empire can go hard
glorious intro
Why the Rampaging Banner on the Boar Boyz? Can't they reroll charges with Warband already?
It's the banner of butchery. I've been saying the wrong banner lmao.. It's the +1 Str Banner on charge, since they always count as charging with counter charge and regular charges
@@chihammerfantasybattles8588 - Ah, that makes more sense!
And glad to see your content again. I used to watch it years ago before the End Times.
More like empire's finest. He took everything that is good. And to be fair you need a lot to compete with your monster mash. 😅
Congrats on the win.
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH LETS GO!
HELL YES PROUD OF YOU DUDE!
what a super silly objective. auto 20-0 if you do 75% of wounds. doesnt even matter what opponent does to you. congrats tho on the win.
losing half an army to fleeing? seems like stupid rules.
He chose to flee
its bad play more than anything. leadership, bsb and general position is integral