Media Division I’ve had it happen a couple times, one recent occurrence was really bad. There are definitely best practices to attenuate the possibility of it happening, but it is a risk with this system.
Post some pics in the FB group and we can see what you are talking about and tell us the specific setting, too, so we could rule out basic mistakes like using cropmix etc. - this is really the fist time I ever heard about EVA being vulnarable in that regard. If you are not a member, the link is in the description.
and i need to say it again! all of your reviews are so pro-looking, even when huge amount of youtubers now doing their well-done review videos, but your style of presentation, b-roll, example footage, intro and voiceover on it is so amazing.... wow : )
I would learn a lot if you would make a "behind the scenes" video that shows your lighting setup here, how you decide on settings (for example, exposing vlog), and if you would show how you grade the GH5 footage you shoot for these videos. Thanks very much!
You mean the talky lighting setup? It's a simple two light setup + the practicals in the background. (All from cameras perspective) upper right side is a Aputure 300D with light dome and a grid to prevent the light from spilling to much on the displays and the background (for better separation). Running at 80% it is quite bright and allows f3.6 @ 800 ISO. The second light is a light storm that is in the upper right corner behind me. Thats all. This is shot with Vlog-l and uses a selfmade LUT that includes a Kodak film simulation LUT from Filmcvonvert, a Teal and Orange LUT, and some manual tweaking. It is really not that hard or complicated. I would just advise you to experiment a lot.
Very detailed and honest opinions that isn't boring! You're one of the very few reviewers that can get me to sit through even 15 minutes of a video. Really appreciate the production value and time put into this! Subscribed!
This is an amazing review. I have GH5 and am considering going to up EVA1. This is such a great perspective on how the step up is from mirrorless to full video camera. Thank you and please continue making these great videos!
Love your CC work, would love a video on your workflow from filming, to importing, to editing, to finishing, to rendering, tips and hints for all of them your footage looks incredible!
Thanks a lot Eric.... don't want to be to boring... most here are so advanced that you don't have to show things like import.... This comes pretty close to that ua-cam.com/video/62ZhT8TNyK4/v-deo.html minus the import and export 😜
Thanks Michael… wished the EVA had a bit better low light for this. The MAVO LF would have been th eway better camera for this one, but we haven't had one
thank you so much for this. This long term review really helps better understand what the EV-1 is really about. I opted for the Ursa Mini Pro and I can honestly say that all these cameras are in the same level to some degree or another. All with amazing features and horrendous fall backs that ultimately put us in a somewhat level playing field in terms of pros and cons. Oh well lol
Thank you DSA… I was about to get the 4.7 back in the day as I did (and still do) love the image you will get... but BMD was just unable to deliver and that broke my trust in them. Having used the Ursa mini 4.7… for me the cam is to large, to heavy and to bad in low light. It is definitely a cam for narrative work more than run n' gun, doc, ecent etc. Two very different cameras with different approaches but both a very nice image. EVA is just more versatile IMHO… is I was only doing adds/narrative I definitely would have gone for the Ursa, too.
Thank you… nice to have you! While that is pretty cool… it doesn't help you here… you can't get them close enough to get them behind one sensor 🤓 using several lenses will shift perspective from lens to lens
Yes.. But I am a small time film-maker, more in the realms of making food recipes and such. All my 3 cameras are fitted with Olympus 12-40mm 2.8 Pro and I am now preparing get another 2 lenses, 7-14mm 2.8 Pro , 40-150mm 2.8 Pro. All shoot will happen indoors in my kitchen..That small sensor of the GH5 will suffice :D. Your presentation and skill are top-notch, I'm indulged to be your subscriber. (indulged? haha) - CUISINED
Super Video... Danke für all die Arbeit, die Du Dir gemacht hast. Durch Dein Video habe ich gelernt, das es nicht die Kamera für mich ist, denn Auto Fokus ist sehr wichtig... und Panasonic scheint das einfach nicht drauf zu haben. VIELEN Dank! Solche Review sind sehr wichtig und zu wenig Channels machen ehrliche Reviews...
Immer gerne.... aber ganz ehrlich... Auto Fokus ist etwas was man immer weniger nutzt oder braucht, je mehr Know-How man sammelt. Ich nutze Auto Fokus nicht einmal mehr für die UA-cam talkies.
Great video dude !!!!! the EVA is a fantastic camera but i absolutely agree with you on the negative points ! The EVF sucks ! keep doing this kind of videos !! x)
One year ago I had to choose a camera in this budget range, I eventually went with the Sony FS5 because the camera of the place I worked was a Sony FS7. I thought it would be a nice addition for the projects that required 2 camera's. In reality, there's not alot of those, and seeing this video kind of makes me regret not going for the EVA1, as I'm not that blown away by the performance of the FS5. It has it's strong points, but it also really feels like a dated camera (before I worked with the FS700, this is basically almost the same camera, but better codec and 4k).
Also appreciate you showing a few projects. Usually reviewers or the Peter McKinnons (?, is that how you spell it) of this world just ramble about a camera, but you put it to use and show what you made with it. With the actual restrictions that client projects bring (budget, time, conflicting visions, whatever).
Thanks Arne… i am glad you found this useful… in the end a camera is a tool… I am sure you get some great images out of the FS5, at least it is very small and mobile
Great video 👍 I used the EVA alongside the Sony FS7 for a while. For a personal purchase I decided to go for the Sony. No regrets, but it took a while to understand S-Log at first but various firmware updates and internal 3rd party LUTS have impressed me.
Thank you Chris! Surely a capable cam, too. But I just don't like the FS5/FS7 image... don't ask me why... it is something emotional. I loved loved loved the F35 image... I mean... how cool does this look?! ua-cam.com/video/OiRD3GcjmKk/v-deo.html
still relevant. eva does bring a cost value into the quality equation so your detailed and thoughtful insights really offer many of us who have only played with eva an opportunity to gain by your experience. BIG thumbs up for the effort and sharing.
Thanks a lot man..... still love my EVA. Awesome dynamic range and many of the criticism in this video has been addressed. Quick switch works great and aliasing effect is gone . Thanks for hanging!
Media Division that’s awesome I’ll check it out. I get so much from your channel. I appreciate all you do. I grabbed a 80mm mamiya after watching your video and should have it tomorrow. Going to try it on the BMP4k
Media Division that’s awesome I’ll check it out. I get so much from your channel and appreciate all you do. I grabbed a 80mm mamiya after watching your video and should have it tomorrow. Going to try it on the BMP4k
Thanks Ben. You mean the talky lighting setup? It's a simple two light setup + the practicals in the background. (All from cameras perspective) upper right side is a Aputure 300D with light dome and a grid to prevent the light from spilling to much on the displays and the background (for better separation). Running at 80% it is quite bright and allows f3.6 @ 800 ISO. The second light is a light storm that is in the upper right corner behind me. Thats all.
A lot of good ideas and some nice suggestions there just a small note: you don't lose DR if you forget to change the Raw from ProRes to ProRes Raw - but the curve recorded is very different and looks a lot closer to a Rec709 as it is a lot steeper - but recorded DR is the same. But the post-workflow to make sure you have it correct is a bit of a pain!
Thank you. Yep… liked discussed in the group that is a workflow hassle that is very avoidable but bound to happen… I hope they can find a way to trigger that from within the camera with the presets!
Yeah. That would be good, but I'm not sure how that would work from an engineering perspective? You would've thought Atomos would be able to do that anyway? Why can't it auto shift recording modes as the input signal changes?
I don't know, but you should be able to transfer some kind of LANC or meta data that tells the recorder what to do over SDI. If both sides agree and there is no standard to break………… I guess it comes down to Atomos and Panasonic not seeing profit in just doing it.
yeah, but I mean: the camera already tells the recorder when it's sending a raw signal or a video signal. I'm wondering why the recorder can't just auto switch recording modes when the signal type changes. Better yet, it could just remember what was used last time and autoswitch back. That must be a simple enough change... In fact, I might suggest it to them!
Do so, but I guess that some might actually want to record ProRes HQ from the RAW signal (but then the with vlog or whatever is set in the camera). The best way are just presets that you can set up yourself and switch both devices at the same time… this way you loose the least time power cycling the devices
Great video. I have a Varicam LT, and am thinking a GH5 might be the way for me to go for B-CAM. Mainly because the eva although it is super light, is still relatively big and draws attention. I wish I could have all 3 LOL
I wish I had an LT 😜Thanks for the flowers Pixelator! I love the GH5(s) EVA1 combo... I think the work great together. This viedeo might be better tailored towards your interest: ua-cam.com/video/62ZhT8TNyK4/v-deo.html
Thanks you so much for putting this video together. It was so helpful. Waiting for the S1 to come out next month. It might be the GH5s on steroids and a way to hold out until the EVA2.
My pleasure..... I don’t think that the S1 is remotely comparable. EVA is all about usability for though pro jobs. S1 will run hot (time limit) ... that alone will exclude her from any serious event work.
@@MediaDivision Yikes... that's right and I read that else where. Also don't know when the L mount system with have 3rd party adapters for our EF lenses. Another question: Would my Atomos Ninja Enferno be the sufficient for the EVA1?
@@Newstorymedia Sufficient for what… monitoring and ProResHQ recording… sure. RAW would need SDI… so the Shogun Inferno. It depends what you want tio do. For normal work, The Internal recordings are super fine. You can't tell the difference between HEVC codecs and ProRes HQ in the final product as you can see here: ua-cam.com/video/F5Qkj-oQmVY/v-deo.html
Media Division I’ve not had much experience filming in RAW. I can count in my hands the number of times. We are at the threshold of moving through that door. Your insight is very appreciated. So you can’t record RAW via HDMI? Had no idea😕 forgive my ignorance. So the EVA1 package would necessitate a Shogun?
Ich glaube ich habe das Video jetzt zum zweiten Mal geguckt :-P Sehr informativ. Die Sache mit den Presets bei der Zeitlupe ist genauso wie bei der Sony FS7. Zig Einstellungen hin und zurück. Unglaublich, dass man das nicht auf einen Funktionsbutton speichern kann. Einzige Möglichkeit, Kamera Preset auf SD Karte speichern und jedesmal für den Preset die Kamera rebotten...
Wie Du sagst… Presets sind jetzt verfügbar, müssen aber auf Karte geschrieben werden. Nicht perfekt, aber besser als nichts. Wenigstens hört Panasonic zu ;-)
So interesting, thank you for a great video. As someone who's going to invest into an entirely new system (both in photography and cinematography), after watching this video and knowing about what's coming in the near future I think my best bet would be the invest into the L-mount. I guess it makes sense, at the end of the day they're (the lenses) the ones who stick around. Thanks again for this super video :)
Thanks a lot Zahi!!! True true… the only problem with glass right now is that large format is going to come for sure. Nobody wants to invect heavily into s25 or FullFrame if Alexa65 sized sensors are around the corner. You can never be sure ;-)
I wish for the EVA2 to come with a mirrorless mount... like MFT mount! But yeah, L mount too would be fine as well. A mirrorless mount such as MFT is even more important to myself than having it go Large Format. As S35 is plenty!
Yes… it is on my list here… but not MFT and for consistency with the Lumix cams the L-Mount ist the most likely candidate - a good choice for a "sub mount"
@@SoundSpeeding three big players on board and adapters for all longer flange mounts are already available... super quick swap from EF to F to PL and back. What more can you want from a sub-mount?
@@MediaDivision , what more could you want? Positive locking! ;-) Like Sony did with FZ, and with E mount on the FS7mk2 and VENICE (and Kinefinity did with their KineMount)
@@SoundSpeeding Abselutely……… it might have that option and it would be a real good thing… at the moment I can only think of Kinefitinty that does it at least half right.
I filmed him once live and The Mamalade produced some Masterclass he did… so, he is kind of a common face to us. As I am not a drummer, I was unaware of his popularity.
I think your GH5 footage looks fantastic. That's the great things about having low standards like me, easily impressed and I save money. XD Excellent review, as always.
Thanks man... yeah, but don't expect him to be around here a lot.... i am not related to him at all. If you missed the dedicated film, it is here: ua-cam.com/video/b3IvZRRbQEw/v-deo.html
@@SergioCavalieri Thanks a lot.... just one and it's the EVA1 (except for one clip in the BW part that is a GH5). It is just edited to make it look like a multicam shot... the repetitive nature of the music makes this possible. It was a plain, public live show.
Thanks man… that would be a very long and quite random list that is not EVA specific for the most part. If you want to know something specific, feel free to ask.
Great review! I have a eva1, and I don’t think the dual iso is cleaner as other cameras in 2500 iso. One question, I searching for a anamorphic adapter. Which one do you use? Thanks!
Thanks. I agree, and it is not the point of dual native ISO. It just means you get 14 stops at 800 AND at 2500 ISO. I have several adapters, Panasonic LA7200, Letus AnamorphiX 1.33x Pro and SLR MAgic 50 1.33x. There is non I can recommend wholeheartedly. Totally depends on Jobs requirements.
Thanks for watching.... there was a 3.0 Firmware which was tast major upgrade to the system. Find all about it here ua-cam.com/video/F5Qkj-oQmVY/v-deo.html
Hey dude what's your name? It would be nice if you introduced yourself at the beginning of your videos. Your videos are first class. Keep up the great work!
Hey Billy... Thank you very much... my Name is Nikolas (or Niki)... I say it in the beginning of quite a few of my videos but nobody ever cared, and I kind of understand that ;-)
I use a Panasonic G80 and to remove noise I convert to jpg and use Topaz Denoise Ai. Export with colour Pro. Then import back to Davinci Resolve. Colour grade then as colour nearer to 10 bit. With no banding. Non of my channel stuff are from the g80 yet. But I find using Gigapixel Ai to resize to 8k then to DR export in 4k it's even better. I'm waiting for Topaz studio2 with batch processing for some effects.
That really doesn’t sound like a workflow that is feasible. Also, JPG is not a good intermediate file - not practical and visible compression. Just use ProRes444
Great videos! I have a GH5s with a Ninja V, any idea how to set the Ninja to record VFR (slowmotion) like the camera does internally? For your 240fps shot ( 6:59-7:15) did you slow it down in post or did it record slowed down? Thx!
I recorded high fps for slow motion use… of course. You can only record high fps (over 60fps) to the Atomos Shogun with RAW. So not with the GH5s and Ninja for lack of RAW out and SDI in.
Can anyone recommend a full EVA1 kit for handheld shooting? Looking for something similar to the bells and whistles in the primary shot of the camera and DP pictured in this video.
Why did you actually use a Panasonic GH5 - it has a MFT Sensor size? I'd be very happy if you cared to answer. I am looking to buy a camera and eyeing this one recently. Even 2019 there are still many fans out there
I use a GH5 (MFT) EVA1 (s35) and Mavo LF (FF)... every camera and format has it's upsides and downsides. I love the GH5 for the simple useability. Turn on shoot forever, stabilised, good codec, cheap, low power, compact, light... if image is not paramount, GH5 rules
What's your opinion on the fx6? I had the s1 and the colours were great. I'm looking to either get the Sony fx6 or the Sony a7s3...it's just a hobby for me though..
Niki, thanks for such an informative review. I have been shooting with Pany GH4 & GH5 & Sony FS5 cameras and looking for a step up. There is a lot to like (and dislike) about EVA1, so this review was very helpful. I will pursue this further on the FB group forum. For the interior car shots, did you use rear projection or green screen for the backgrounds? It looks quite believable.
Thanks man... that is a very old Sachtler DV1... seriously underpowered and still heavy. I just use it for lack of an alternative. If I would get a new one now, I would probably go for the Sachtler Ace XL & flowtech 75, but I have no experience with it that I could share
@@MediaDivision Seriously thanks so much. This is perfect as it's about the price I was looking to spend. I have to do a little more research but this looks great. Thanks again for all you do. Looking forward to future content from you!
@media division. Now that this video is over a year old what are your thoughts as to the camera now? We are looking to jump into full 4K format filming and don’t yet have The budget for RED. We do a ton of high action shooting and love the price point of the SD card over the CFast cards plus the ability to use EF mount lenses so that we can utilize our canon glass. Can this camera do 4K at 240fps? Also can you completely do away with the factory monitor and go with a stand alone Shogun setup? Also how well would you say this would work in a RoninM gimbal? Also is a GH5s a good pair up for a secondary camera or as a B roll camera? Thanks in advance. Very nice video.
RED is coming out with the Komodo soon... might be interesting if you are into RED. EVA is still a good cam... sure. Light, power efficient, and reliable. No camera I know of can do 4K at 240fps except the Phantoms (and they can do 1000fps to RAM) today. The best in class is the URSA mini G2 with 120fps at 4.6K. You could use the Shogun as the factory replacement, but then you cant use it as a recorder. Shogun is way to heavy anyways. get a small HD and keep the factory display for menus. Ronin M... not without hassle. EVA is long. Look at the MAVO as an alternative... much better for Gimbal use... but if you have a GH5s just make that your dedicated Gimbal cam. Cams intercut well (all modern pair quite well). Hope that helps.
Great video! Thanks. I'm still curious about a few things before buying one. I currently have a Shogun flame (w SDI) & a Ninja v, So could I get 4k raw from the EVA onto an SSD? Also, how bad is the 4k raw crop? the 5.7 k raw no crop looks dope, but it's nearly 40 min/ 1 tb SSD. Also thanks for talking about the GH5. I might pick 1 or 2 up with the Eva 1 if they match well to get some more angles on features and documentary work.
Thanks Toni.... Unfortunately You need a Shogun Inferno to record ProRes RAW. While the Ninja V has the guts to do it, it is missing an SDI port. Maybe Atomos will release an SDI add on in the future. Be aware that ONLY FCPX supports ProRes RAW at this time. I usually don't use the crop as it makes your FOV very narrow. Yes, EVA and the LUMIX lines match well.
@@MediaDivision Dang. That's a bummer. I honestly am really loving this camera, but I'm starting to think that an URSA Mini Pro 4.6K might be a better fit. I recently built a beast custom build that can edit 6k for under $2k and a similar apple build was $8k. Even though I can afford it, there's no way I can justify paying over $6k in apple taxes. It's honestly quite a shame and a bummer. Panasonic honestly almost had convert, but it looks like Black Magic might get my money if they don't come to a reasonable solution for PC users soon.
Ursa 4.6 Not a bad cam at all, but unusable for me to lack of sensitivity. In the end it is very rare that you'll be able to tell EVAs high end h264 apart from a RAW master...... and I use RAW on EVA and on the 6K Mavo LF... that can handle 10000iso no problem
@@MediaDivision Very true. I personally use 2 Sony A7S's for wedding/event work because I can push the ISO to the max, but due to the distributors that I will be working with in the future, actual RAW is a requirement. I think it's a bit silly because a properly set scene with log offers plenty of flexibility, but you gotta give your clients what they want at the end of the day.
There was a firmware update (think 2.5) that adds smooth reduction mode for in camera noise reduction. Did you ever used this? (In this review the latest firmware update was 2.0) and this was a great overview! I have the panasonic gh5s and dvx200 now.
Hey Tom… no, I never used it. If I do noise reduction in general I do it in post, but it is surely nice for live or fast turnaround. EVA1 still has merits for people that do a lot of event and broadcast stuff. The BS1H has a much much cleaner image… I wish Panasonic would do a FF camera for pro work with good button layout and auto focus.
Hello there! Thanks for this massive and classy review! I suppose and feel that it was a very honest review with a little bit of disappointing of the camera. I would like to ask if you would have chance to chose this camera again after one year wold you do it or try something else like c200 or Kinnefinity? (more or less same budget) Did Panasonic give any update since your "zoo" tests? ( i mean about this huge amount of compression internally that makes some footage unusable for pro work as You mention it there ) 240p/120p is a nice tool for telling stories and great gimmick for clients but is it now usable?(i think about it internally as LONG GOP, because if I will buy this EVA1 until end of january i wont be able to buy SHOGUN INFERNO at least until june so no raw/no pro-res for some time and i have to relay only on internal) I have watched this review few time this week and have a very hard decision to make :) Thanks in advance for any of Your thoughts! Cheers!
Hello Johnny... thank you for the flowers. If you got the impression that I am disappointed, let me ensure you that I am not. EVA1 is a great workhorse that have been shown to be reliable and very practical. Panasonics pro division really knows what it is doing. If EVA1 is for you, that really depends on what you are doing and what your needs are (duh). I am not married to Panasonic and I'm looking into the Mavo LF and used Alexas as well as the RED Gemini .... but all of those are systems that cost a multiple of EVA (Mavo LF is 2x if you build a comparable system) and none of them would be any good if you plan to do event work of want to do a docu at the south pole, in a war zone, jungle etc. :-) EVA is great at those... a light, fast (boot time, vary ND), reliable, low power, great low footprint codec. All a Kinefinity 4K, c200 etc. are not as good or worthless at. On top of that, it is quite decent for narrative stuff as well, though not comparable to a Alexa or a Helium/Gemini... ?! Of course not. There have been many updates till the (zoo) "Forrest People" test I did... EVA became a very mature system since. Bug free from my point of view (something that Kinefinity user will has to fight with reading their forums... up to frying EF lens servos... better don't be at the south pole when that happens). Upgrade 2.0 brought 400mbps All-I internal (not an advantage over the 150mbps long GOP but Netflix requirement) and the really awesome RAW output up to 240fps!!! You will find plenty of examples for that in this video and on my channel. The aliasing effect has been dealt with by improving the math since release of this video. That is a whole new world since the "disappointing" hight fps of the zoo test. Is that as good as a Phantom... ?! Of course not. The internal results are still not great, but I would say, that under good conditions the 120 is usable for most projects (not cinema or national TV!). I would see the shogun as a very important ingredient in an EVA1 setup. But you can go without (and high fps are overrated)... if you haven't seen this watch it: ua-cam.com/video/62ZhT8TNyK4/v-deo.html.... that works without a Shogun. You WILL need a good EVF or monitor anyways. LCD is unusable for serious work. Would I buy EVA1 again? YES. At the moment, there is no new "contender" that is able to do what she does, IF your requirements match her abilities. Is EVA the perfect camera... ?! Of course not. I would not buy EVA if: You shoot in low light all the time (get a A7s2, GH5s etc.) EVA is not so good in low light, do weddings most of the times (no one cares for the quality.... go get a GH5s, Pocket 4K or wait for the S system etc.), or do narrative work most of the time. I would prefer a Terra 4K, Mavo then.... if you can get hold of one. EVA is extremely versatile and cheap to operate due to low cost media/batteries/light wight codec. I would choose her over the c200 in anything BUT low light and auto focus (if you are the kind of filmmaker that wants/needs one) I really hope I was able to help you a bit making a sophisticated decision... good luck Johnny
@@MediaDivision Wow! Thanks Nicolas this is best and most informative answer I have ever get on UA-cam this 100% proves Your seriousness about that tool and taking people like me here also serious thanks fro that! Since the day I decide to upgrade from gh5 (what is actually my work horse in all tough conditions -20 degrees / +30 degrees, on military area and on swimming pool as well and in huge rain) but.. I must upgrade the dynamic range because gh5 just fail in some more critical work and there is no right answer for client at such moments and ND's where is no time for screwing that filter on lens when you loose the shot, also this is silly but clients looks on your gear and when they see a "DSLR" like thing they start asking "what is this" and its getting really slick (even when they know your work and they like it much). EVA1 was first idea and I need just to be sure is right way, my work is based on two types 100% pure Run&Gun doc/promos for clients that's why ND and light weight is great from EVA1 for gimbals. Second (more controlled environment like commercials/music videos). Low light....pain in the ass, when you can't use light or when you are owner/operator one man band. I assume from your video that its not so good and I have to keep up to 2500 at most cases. but I know that its impassable sometimes when you make DOC and just can't use light because this will for example distracts soldiers... :) i was concerning terra 4k but this is still 4/3 sensor and sometimes its not enough also this is reason why I want upgrade to S35 to get rid of adapters like m4/ > EF. Thank You Niclas very much for help, EVA1 is better choice than c200 from many perspective and probably I will go that way:) I hope that Panasonic will give presets for VFR because this is my only one concern about time when switching from 24>50 and higher. Thanks a lot! Cheers! Happy New Year full of new exciting work and new rich clients! :)
Long time Pana small camera user (GH 2, 4, 5) user here. For smaller projects, when have to operate on my own. Mostly I direct and sometimes edit; DoPs typically throw Canon C series, Mostly Sony Fs 5 , 7, and now Fx 9 footage at me.. Also EVA 1 and to a lesser degree, BM ursa. I crunch to all that output in post. My question: I have. been contemplated an EVA as an upgrade from GH5 (mostly happy with the image and codec) for the classic camcorder feature set (sound, internal NDs, haptic quality...) Since halfway through the vis this is not your concern, may I ask how you would choose today between EVA and SH1?
good question... and as always, it depends. For me, I would choose EVA over S1H for practical reasons (as you stated). For image alone, and if you don't work under pressure, I would go for the S1H
@Media Division, what is your opinion when comparing the EVA1 to the new SH1? I understand they are completely different in so many ways. But looking just at the picture, what would your opinion be?
Very helpful video, well presented too! I have just purchased an EVA1 and I noticed you refer to Green Screen working well. I shoot a fair number of Green Screen jobs in any given year. Can I ask, did you shoot the Green Screen work using the internal recording, or externally with the Inferno? Was wondering whether the 5.7K ProRes Raw would help with Green Screen, or actually because of no in-camera noise reduction when outputting raw that it could possibly be worse doing it this way? If you shot it internally did you record in 150mbps or 400mbps? Sorry for all the questions! Thank you.
Thanks Warner Vision… The green screen work in this was shot in 4K on an Inferno using ProRes HQ. I can see that the 5.7K might bring a little advantage, but it is hardly worth it when you shoot a lot of footage and the data demand is killing you. In my tests, I can't distinguish ProRes HQ from the internal long GOP or All-I. For me, it is more a matter of convenience to shoot ProRes until Apple delivers a machine that can take a punch or two… hope that helps!
What do you think of the Panasonic S1H feature set? (I have an opportunity to get one for slightly cheaper than a Sony a7 III). - and maybe thinking of building a set of vintage Zeiss :)
Nice video. I would appreciate also a real in body IS. The E.I.S is just not usable when handled. The GH5 has such a good IBIS why not just take it from this line of products.
Thanks Corentin... while I would appreciate it, there are many pros who reject it categorically. There are problems with the GH5 to switch it of completely and having a vibration save system. I don't think it is going to happen and at this time no cine cam has IBIS (or Dual IS).... maybe for a reason. Look into the S1... that will be interesting and if Panasonic doesn't neuter it, it has the potential to overtake the pro market from the right.
Cinema camera's don't have this IBIS feature because they are giving the DP and director the option to choose from Steadycam, Gimble, EasyRig, or whatever. SO my guess they won't add this feature, which they should. Just like everyone ripped of Panasonic dual native ISO... Panasonic should add it. Atleast to EVA, maybe not Varicam lines..
@@AlexDerrick_DP Panasonic will have to make sure that the sensor does not move at all while IS is off. If that works it doesn't in the GH5), I don't see any reason why somebody would not want it.
Hello Peter....most cameras have that. I guess you are aware of different power grid frequencies in different parts of the world and why it can be important to match that. The system frequency menu changes the BASE frame rate of your system. While you can set a different frame rate in the variable frame rate setting, sound is only recorded at base frame rate. Practically: If you shoot 50fps and you want sound... set the system frequency to that. If you want to mix that with 25fps with sound, set the system frequency to that.
I want to do 4K @ 50/60P for slow motion, is it better to record 4K crop RAW or connecting via HDMI to external recorder and getting down scaled 4K from 5.7K at 4:2:2 proress HQX? Is one sharper
Thanks, i really like this cam. But i dont want to work whith Canon lenses... i got mft lenses and two L mount lenses... i really want a L mount version of this camera. Seems to be really good for my work.
Question: Where do you leave your sharpness and noise reduction in your panasonic gh5 like -5,-3 and do you do anything in post for sharpness or noise reduction
Hey I’m choosing my future Cine camera between the EVA1 - MINI URSA G2 and SONY FS7.. The only CON that knocks the PANASONIC EVA1 down from the others is the lack of 12Bit raw output... Proress RAW seem to be the only support for the EVA-1 which I’m told is max of 10bit 5.7K so it’s not a true 12Bit raw file.. ARE THERE ANY EXTERNAL RECORDERS THAT CAN PULL A 12Bit 4K raw signal from the EVA1??
Media Division what about the Prores Raw 10 not being a true Raw codec vs. 12 bit raw from others providing more bit depth and information.. For instance is bigger brother VARICAM LT, which can do 12Bit 4K raw. Perhaps a raw comparison test as there are any on UA-cam?
impressive like... people are realising that you are a professional with a professional camera at work. If you stand there with a mirrorless, people often don't give you space or stand right in front of your lens... EVA is big enough to counter that.
At this time, there is no way to have quickly switchable presets! nI'm the admin of the largest EVA1 facebook group with tons on Panasonic Reps in it.... if there was a way.... believe me, I would know.
Fantastic video!! Thanks so much for your perspective after one year
Cheers Amor.... much appreciated
One of the problems I have had with this system is moire. Have you run into that as well?
not at all! The high resolution prevents that very well. With the high FPS there is the shown aliasing effect… yes
Media Division I’ve had it happen a couple times, one recent occurrence was really bad. There are definitely best practices to attenuate the possibility of it happening, but it is a risk with this system.
Post some pics in the FB group and we can see what you are talking about and tell us the specific setting, too, so we could rule out basic mistakes like using cropmix etc. - this is really the fist time I ever heard about EVA being vulnarable in that regard. If you are not a member, the link is in the description.
and i need to say it again! all of your reviews are so pro-looking, even when huge amount of youtubers now doing their well-done review videos, but your style of presentation, b-roll, example footage, intro and voiceover on it is so amazing.... wow : )
You make me blush my dear sir.... ;-) Thank you so much for the flowers. Always trying to improve
I would learn a lot if you would make a "behind the scenes" video that shows your lighting setup here, how you decide on settings (for example, exposing vlog), and if you would show how you grade the GH5 footage you shoot for these videos. Thanks very much!
You mean the talky lighting setup? It's a simple two light setup + the practicals in the background. (All from cameras perspective) upper right side is a Aputure 300D with light dome and a grid to prevent the light from spilling to much on the displays and the background (for better separation). Running at 80% it is quite bright and allows f3.6 @ 800 ISO. The second light is a light storm that is in the upper right corner behind me. Thats all. This is shot with Vlog-l and uses a selfmade LUT that includes a Kodak film simulation LUT from Filmcvonvert, a Teal and Orange LUT, and some manual tweaking. It is really not that hard or complicated. I would just advise you to experiment a lot.
Thanks very much!
Very detailed and honest opinions that isn't boring! You're one of the very few reviewers that can get me to sit through even 15 minutes of a video. Really appreciate the production value and time put into this! Subscribed!
So you are the one user who watched the whole thing 😝 Cool compliment… thank you Victor… nice to have you!
Media Division hey - I’ve watched the whole thing ;P
As a drummer who is getting into cameras and videography, I was extremely surprised Benny Greb in a camera video! Awesome stuff!
Yes, Benny is quite an icon... but the other guys are very gifted as well
I thought I saw Benny on the throne! Some cool friends you have 👍
Panasonic should pay you for this. Perhaps one of the greatest reviews I ve ever seen. Such a wealth of information.
also the cinema dng footage looks stunning.
Thanks Pat... appreciated!!!! I surely wish the would 😉
This is an amazing review. I have GH5 and am considering going to up EVA1. This is such a great perspective on how the step up is from mirrorless to full video camera. Thank you and please continue making these great videos!
Thanks Nahua... that is very motivating ;-)
Love your CC work, would love a video on your workflow from filming, to importing, to editing, to finishing, to rendering, tips and hints for all of them your footage looks incredible!
Thanks a lot Eric.... don't want to be to boring... most here are so advanced that you don't have to show things like import....
This comes pretty close to that ua-cam.com/video/62ZhT8TNyK4/v-deo.html minus the import and export 😜
Lovely work on the interior car lighting. It gives the shot a more natural affect most viewers can connect with.
Thanks Michael… wished the EVA had a bit better low light for this. The MAVO LF would have been th eway better camera for this one, but we haven't had one
thank you so much for this. This long term review really helps better understand what the EV-1 is really about. I opted for the Ursa Mini Pro and I can honestly say that all these cameras are in the same level to some degree or another. All with amazing features and horrendous fall backs that ultimately put us in a somewhat level playing field in terms of pros and cons. Oh well lol
Thank you DSA… I was about to get the 4.7 back in the day as I did (and still do) love the image you will get... but BMD was just unable to deliver and that broke my trust in them. Having used the Ursa mini 4.7… for me the cam is to large, to heavy and to bad in low light. It is definitely a cam for narrative work more than run n' gun, doc, ecent etc. Two very different cameras with different approaches but both a very nice image. EVA is just more versatile IMHO… is I was only doing adds/narrative I definitely would have gone for the Ursa, too.
4.6K…………… i start to mess up numbers ;-)
I have 3x GH5..You made me even more happy about my purchase. Thank you and subscribed.
Thank you… nice to have you! While that is pretty cool… it doesn't help you here… you can't get them close enough to get them behind one sensor 🤓 using several lenses will shift perspective from lens to lens
Yes.. But I am a small time film-maker, more in the realms of making food recipes and such. All my 3 cameras are fitted with Olympus 12-40mm 2.8 Pro and I am now preparing get another 2 lenses, 7-14mm 2.8 Pro , 40-150mm 2.8 Pro. All shoot will happen indoors in my kitchen..That small sensor of the GH5 will suffice :D.
Your presentation and skill are top-notch, I'm indulged to be your subscriber. (indulged? haha)
- CUISINED
@@cuisined Ah… I thought you wanted to replicate this using all your cameras. Gh5 is great… lot's of scenes in this are shot on it. Thank you again!
I currently dont need the power of the EVA1, but when it came out, I was super excited!
sure... never get what you don't need
Super Video... Danke für all die Arbeit, die Du Dir gemacht hast. Durch Dein Video habe ich gelernt, das es nicht die Kamera für mich ist, denn Auto Fokus ist sehr wichtig... und Panasonic scheint das einfach nicht drauf zu haben. VIELEN Dank! Solche Review sind sehr wichtig und zu wenig Channels machen ehrliche Reviews...
Immer gerne.... aber ganz ehrlich... Auto Fokus ist etwas was man immer weniger nutzt oder braucht, je mehr Know-How man sammelt. Ich nutze Auto Fokus nicht einmal mehr für die UA-cam talkies.
Awesome review after 1 year of use, very appreciative
Thanks Darko… my pleasure
Your channel is amazing. Great to see someone take the time to break things down for other DoPs. Really a great inspiration for me.
Thanks Ben... that is kind of you to say... glad you find it helpful!!!
Sehr gute Videos für Leute die in der Video Branche arbeiten (wie mich), ich werde deinen Kanal weiter verfolgen!
Danke Milan... freue mich Dich hier zu haben.
Great video dude !!!!!
the EVA is a fantastic camera but i absolutely agree with you on the negative points ! The EVF sucks !
keep doing this kind of videos !! x)
Will do!……… Thank you Antoine
@9.20 To the point, I had the same expectation, what a marketing trick :)
Well, don't be to hard on them. It is a common expectation that dual ISO gives less grain. That is not the case… you keep the DR
Wow I love your channel. In just watching 3 of your videos I have learned so much. Please keep up the great work!
Thank you Vincent... I will surely try :-)
One year ago I had to choose a camera in this budget range, I eventually went with the Sony FS5 because the camera of the place I worked was a Sony FS7. I thought it would be a nice addition for the projects that required 2 camera's. In reality, there's not alot of those, and seeing this video kind of makes me regret not going for the EVA1, as I'm not that blown away by the performance of the FS5. It has it's strong points, but it also really feels like a dated camera (before I worked with the FS700, this is basically almost the same camera, but better codec and 4k).
Also appreciate you showing a few projects. Usually reviewers or the Peter McKinnons (?, is that how you spell it) of this world just ramble about a camera, but you put it to use and show what you made with it. With the actual restrictions that client projects bring (budget, time, conflicting visions, whatever).
Thanks Arne… i am glad you found this useful… in the end a camera is a tool… I am sure you get some great images out of the FS5, at least it is very small and mobile
Great video 👍
I used the EVA alongside the Sony FS7 for a while. For a personal purchase I decided to go for the Sony.
No regrets, but it took a while to understand S-Log at first but various firmware updates and internal 3rd party LUTS have impressed me.
Thank you Chris! Surely a capable cam, too. But I just don't like the FS5/FS7 image... don't ask me why... it is something emotional. I loved loved loved the F35 image... I mean... how cool does this look?!
ua-cam.com/video/OiRD3GcjmKk/v-deo.html
@@MediaDivision That F35 video looks sweet!
@@AlexDerrick_DP F35?? What do you mean?
@@MediaDivision The one you linked too. That's great looking footage.
ua-cam.com/video/OiRD3GcjmKk/v-deo.html
@@MediaDivision it was "shot on a modified Sony F35" as the description says
Detailed, well constructed review. Great real world examples, valid/constructive criticism. Great review, great channel. Klasse gemacht :) Keep it up.
Szabolcs Gergely thanks a lot... Dankeschön :) i will try my best!!!
would love to hear you review new Sony FX9, cute baby, bless him. Love the way EVA1 footage looks, great review.
Thanks a lot Eric... if Sony gives me FX9, I'm all for it 😜I don't think that renting a cam for a day or two makes a sophisticated review
still relevant. eva does bring a cost value into the quality equation so your detailed and thoughtful insights really offer many of us who have only played with eva an opportunity to gain by your experience. BIG thumbs up for the effort and sharing.
Thanks a lot man..... still love my EVA. Awesome dynamic range and many of the criticism in this video has been addressed. Quick switch works great and aliasing effect is gone . Thanks for hanging!
I absolutely love Benny Greb! Funny hes the guy in your concert footage.
Yeah... he is popular to say the least. Here is the film that footage was taken from. ua-cam.com/video/b3IvZRRbQEw/v-deo.html
Media Division that’s awesome I’ll check it out. I get so much from your channel. I appreciate all you do. I grabbed a 80mm mamiya after watching your video and should have it tomorrow. Going to try it on the BMP4k
Media Division that’s awesome I’ll check it out. I get so much from your channel and appreciate all you do. I grabbed a 80mm mamiya after watching your video and should have it tomorrow. Going to try it on the BMP4k
Great review, and best gh5 /Eva footage I’ve seen, would love to see the lighting setup for this main shot
Thanks Ben. You mean the talky lighting setup? It's a simple two light setup + the practicals in the background. (All from cameras perspective) upper right side is a Aputure 300D with light dome and a grid to prevent the light from spilling to much on the displays and the background (for better separation). Running at 80% it is quite bright and allows f3.6 @ 800 ISO. The second light is a light storm that is in the upper right corner behind me. Thats all.
Media Division WoW! Thanks for breaking that down... I think I need a grid/eggcrate for my softbox. I would love a 300d! Again it looks amazing
Thanks and my pleasure Ben
My Dream Camera EVA-1 Your very Professional & with All the Nice Gear For making my UA-cam videos my DX200 is Good enough But it's nice to Dream
Thank you Toots… contend is king! Good luck.
A lot of good ideas and some nice suggestions there just a small note: you don't lose DR if you forget to change the Raw from ProRes to ProRes Raw - but the curve recorded is very different and looks a lot closer to a Rec709 as it is a lot steeper - but recorded DR is the same. But the post-workflow to make sure you have it correct is a bit of a pain!
Thank you. Yep… liked discussed in the group that is a workflow hassle that is very avoidable but bound to happen… I hope they can find a way to trigger that from within the camera with the presets!
Yeah. That would be good, but I'm not sure how that would work from an engineering perspective? You would've thought Atomos would be able to do that anyway? Why can't it auto shift recording modes as the input signal changes?
I don't know, but you should be able to transfer some kind of LANC or meta data that tells the recorder what to do over SDI. If both sides agree and there is no standard to break………… I guess it comes down to Atomos and Panasonic not seeing profit in just doing it.
yeah, but I mean: the camera already tells the recorder when it's sending a raw signal or a video signal. I'm wondering why the recorder can't just auto switch recording modes when the signal type changes. Better yet, it could just remember what was used last time and autoswitch back. That must be a simple enough change... In fact, I might suggest it to them!
Do so, but I guess that some might actually want to record ProRes HQ from the RAW signal (but then the with vlog or whatever is set in the camera). The best way are just presets that you can set up yourself and switch both devices at the same time… this way you loose the least time power cycling the devices
Great video. I have a Varicam LT, and am thinking a GH5 might be the way for me to go for B-CAM.
Mainly because the eva although it is super light, is still relatively big and draws attention. I wish I could have all 3 LOL
I wish I had an LT 😜Thanks for the flowers Pixelator! I love the GH5(s) EVA1 combo... I think the work great together. This viedeo might be better tailored towards your interest: ua-cam.com/video/62ZhT8TNyK4/v-deo.html
Thanks you so much for putting this video together. It was so helpful. Waiting for the S1 to come out next month. It might be the GH5s on steroids and a way to hold out until the EVA2.
My pleasure..... I don’t think that the S1 is remotely comparable. EVA is all about usability for though pro jobs. S1 will run hot (time limit) ... that alone will exclude her from any serious event work.
@@MediaDivision Yikes... that's right and I read that else where. Also don't know when the L mount system with have 3rd party adapters for our EF lenses. Another question: Would my Atomos Ninja Enferno be the sufficient for the EVA1?
@@Newstorymedia Sufficient for what… monitoring and ProResHQ recording… sure. RAW would need SDI… so the Shogun Inferno. It depends what you want tio do. For normal work, The Internal recordings are super fine. You can't tell the difference between HEVC codecs and ProRes HQ in the final product as you can see here: ua-cam.com/video/F5Qkj-oQmVY/v-deo.html
Media Division I’ve not had much experience filming in RAW. I can count in my hands the number of times. We are at the threshold of moving through that door. Your insight is very appreciated. So you can’t record RAW via HDMI? Had no idea😕 forgive my ignorance. So the EVA1 package would necessitate a Shogun?
Aw there's a mini you 😄
And someday he will be larger than me... I hope
Beautiful intro video! Learning from you! Thanks man!
Thanks a lot Jean!
Ich glaube ich habe das Video jetzt zum zweiten Mal geguckt :-P Sehr informativ. Die Sache mit den Presets bei der Zeitlupe ist genauso wie bei der Sony FS7. Zig Einstellungen hin und zurück. Unglaublich, dass man das nicht auf einen Funktionsbutton speichern kann. Einzige Möglichkeit, Kamera Preset auf SD Karte speichern und jedesmal für den Preset die Kamera rebotten...
Wie Du sagst… Presets sind jetzt verfügbar, müssen aber auf Karte geschrieben werden. Nicht perfekt, aber besser als nichts. Wenigstens hört Panasonic zu ;-)
So interesting, thank you for a great video. As someone who's going to invest into an entirely new system (both in photography and cinematography), after watching this video and knowing about what's coming in the near future I think my best bet would be the invest into the L-mount. I guess it makes sense, at the end of the day they're (the lenses) the ones who stick around.
Thanks again for this super video :)
Thanks a lot Zahi!!! True true… the only problem with glass right now is that large format is going to come for sure. Nobody wants to invect heavily into s25 or FullFrame if Alexa65 sized sensors are around the corner. You can never be sure ;-)
@@MediaDivision Good point. Did you get a chance to try the LF Kinefinity, or hear anything about it from someone who has?
@@zfarahx Stay tuned… I'm building a Ultra Panavision 70 setup including a Mavo LF. But I will take my time as I'm working a lot right now.
hello, as always detailed, professionally deployed, thank you very much
Cheers Gustav!!!
Absolutely amazing review! Will definitely be checking back frequently
Now your putting on the heat 😝… just kidding… thank you and I'm glad to have you around!
I wish for the EVA2 to come with a mirrorless mount... like MFT mount! But yeah, L mount too would be fine as well.
A mirrorless mount such as MFT is even more important to myself than having it go Large Format. As S35 is plenty!
Yes… it is on my list here… but not MFT and for consistency with the Lumix cams the L-Mount ist the most likely candidate - a good choice for a "sub mount"
I guess it depends on Leica licensing it for a cinema camera. As the arrangement for L mount is a little different from the open standard which is MFT
@@SoundSpeeding three big players on board and adapters for all longer flange mounts are already available... super quick swap from EF to F to PL and back. What more can you want from a sub-mount?
@@MediaDivision , what more could you want? Positive locking! ;-)
Like Sony did with FZ, and with E mount on the FS7mk2 and VENICE
(and Kinefinity did with their KineMount)
@@SoundSpeeding Abselutely……… it might have that option and it would be a real good thing… at the moment I can only think of Kinefitinty that does it at least half right.
Klasse Video! Bin selbst EVA User und stimme dir in allen Punkten zu! Dein Preset-Vorschlag ist genial. Müsste man mal Mitch Gross zukommen lassen ;)
Danke Dir... dafür sorge ich ;-)
Watching this now and wishing the EVA-2 with L-Mount comes out. Still will rent out the Eva-1 for my professional work.
Look into the BS1H… could be a EVA2 brain
@@MediaDivision Most definitely will.
Brilliant expose of the haves and wants for this camera bravo
Who could dislike these videos? 19 people are out of their element.
don't worry... some people just dislike my fingernails, panasonic, youtube, or life in general 😝
Love your lighting
Thanks man...!!!
also started with the panasonic dvx100b!
We are old 😜
WONDERFUL REVIEW! SO PROPER
Thank you Faizan... and thanks for hanging
"Her first birthday" awesome ;) Love your production value of the videos! Aaaand i joined your FB-Group very excited keep up your style!
Thanks a lot Chris! Nice to have you on the group as well. I will try... and get better ;-)
I'm a drummer and do film as a side passion/job while being able to fund my band etc. That being sad, I didn't expect to see Benny Greb here haha!
I filmed him once live and The Mamalade produced some Masterclass he did… so, he is kind of a common face to us. As I am not a drummer, I was unaware of his popularity.
I think your GH5 footage looks fantastic. That's the great things about having low standards like me, easily impressed and I save money. XD Excellent review, as always.
Ha Ha HA Ha… thanks man……… well GH5 is not bad at all… still ;-)
"Lowering my standards has exceeded my expectations."
Bro you Filmed Benny Grab ??? he is one of the Best Drummers of the World !!! I am subscribing just because of that !!!
Thanks man... yeah, but don't expect him to be around here a lot.... i am not related to him at all.
If you missed the dedicated film, it is here: ua-cam.com/video/b3IvZRRbQEw/v-deo.html
love the video, just watched it, how many cameras did you use to film it ? was it a live show or a music video (lip-synked) @@MediaDivision
@@SergioCavalieri Thanks a lot.... just one and it's the EVA1 (except for one clip in the BW part that is a GH5). It is just edited to make it look like a multicam shot... the repetitive nature of the music makes this possible. It was a plain, public live show.
awesome, I have a son fs5 and the shogun inferno and I love it, my prefered formt is Cinema DNG @@MediaDivision
@@SergioCavalieri Yeah… good cam… love the Shogun. Cinema DNG is just size wise impossible for event and life work...
Very helpful review, Nikolas. Please post a link to the accessories you are using for your EVA1 in this video. Thanks!
Thanks man… that would be a very long and quite random list that is not EVA specific for the most part. If you want to know something specific, feel free to ask.
Great review! I have a eva1, and I don’t think the dual iso is cleaner as other cameras in 2500 iso. One question, I searching for a anamorphic adapter. Which one do you use? Thanks!
Thanks. I agree, and it is not the point of dual native ISO. It just means you get 14 stops at 800 AND at 2500 ISO. I have several adapters, Panasonic LA7200, Letus AnamorphiX 1.33x Pro and SLR MAgic 50 1.33x. There is non I can recommend wholeheartedly. Totally depends on Jobs requirements.
Phenomenal video! So in depth and super helpful. Curious after 5 years if they have added preset support in a firmware update?
Thanks for watching.... there was a 3.0 Firmware which was tast major upgrade to the system. Find all about it here ua-cam.com/video/F5Qkj-oQmVY/v-deo.html
@@MediaDivision thank you!
Excellent review!
Thank you Benjamin!!!
@@MediaDivision You're welcome! Keep up the great work. Going to dig into some of your other videos soon.
Great video, love how you explain the EVA1. Just curious, what camera did you use to film this episode, looks sharp!
Thanks a lot... This is filmed with a GH5
Great video! Lovely colours!
Thanks MATA!!!
Your awesome Sir, I subscribed. Thank you.
Thanks a lot Sun! Nice to have you around
Hi, I love your content. It’s so on point and informative. I have a question tho, what is the tripod that your using in this video?
Thanks Nicos! It's an old old old Sachtler DV1. It is not manufactured any more. It was basically what the ACE is today but with way less capacity.
Dude this was shot a GH5!? What Lut do u use? The image quality is superb!!
You mean the episode itself? Yes. This was done with custom made LUTs plus a scene by scene secondary grade. Thanks man
You are friends with the great Benny Greb?????!!!?!?!?!? OMG!!! Best drummer ever.
Friends is over exaggerated… we know each other. I know other members of that band better. He is definitely great!
ua-cam.com/video/b3IvZRRbQEw/v-deo.html
Hey dude what's your name? It would be nice if you introduced yourself at the beginning of your videos. Your videos are first class. Keep up the great work!
Hey Billy... Thank you very much... my Name is Nikolas (or Niki)... I say it in the beginning of quite a few of my videos but nobody ever cared, and I kind of understand that ;-)
Hey Niki. You should feel very much appreciated 😊 for putting yourself out there and bringing us great content.
don't make me cry man....... thank you Billy
I use a Panasonic G80 and to remove noise I convert to jpg and use Topaz Denoise Ai. Export with colour Pro. Then import back to Davinci Resolve. Colour grade then as colour nearer to 10 bit. With no banding. Non of my channel stuff are from the g80 yet. But I find using Gigapixel Ai to resize to 8k then to DR export in 4k it's even better. I'm waiting for Topaz studio2 with batch processing for some effects.
That really doesn’t sound like a workflow that is feasible. Also, JPG is not a good intermediate file - not practical and visible compression. Just use ProRes444
Not a fan of panasonic cinema cameras. We spent 2 months shooting with the Panasonic Varicam LT and wouldn't wanna go back ;)
well.... as always, the right cam for the right job. EVA1 served me well as an event cam... with benefits
27:27 LIKE THE MODE DIAL ON THE GH5 >> C3---1-2-3 ... DO IT PANASONIC!!
As far as I know… this video was seen by engineers… fingers crossed
Great vid! Thank you!
Thank YOU for watching rattler
Great videos! I have a GH5s with a Ninja V, any idea how to set the Ninja to record VFR (slowmotion) like the camera does internally? For your 240fps shot ( 6:59-7:15) did you slow it down in post or did it record slowed down? Thx!
I recorded high fps for slow motion use… of course. You can only record high fps (over 60fps) to the Atomos Shogun with RAW. So not with the GH5s and Ninja for lack of RAW out and SDI in.
Nice video, thank you!!
My pleasure JBV
Can anyone recommend a full EVA1 kit for handheld shooting? Looking for something similar to the bells and whistles in the primary shot of the camera and DP pictured in this video.
Why do you not build your rig just like that? What info is missing
@@MediaDivision Thanks for the reply! I'm looking for an equipment list, more details about what's in the rig on-screen.
Arri MMB2 mattebox
SMALLRIG 2099 BASIC ACCESSORY KIT FOR PANASONIC EVA1
15mm rods
Lanparte vlock battery plate
Shoot35 Cinefocus
Manfrotto Ballhead
Shogun Inferno
Why did you actually use a Panasonic GH5 - it has a MFT Sensor size? I'd be very happy if you cared to answer. I am looking to buy a camera and eyeing this one recently. Even 2019 there are still many fans out there
I use a GH5 (MFT) EVA1 (s35) and Mavo LF (FF)... every camera and format has it's upsides and downsides. I love the GH5 for the simple useability. Turn on shoot forever, stabilised, good codec, cheap, low power, compact, light... if image is not paramount, GH5 rules
What's your opinion on the fx6? I had the s1 and the colours were great. I'm looking to either get the Sony fx6 or the Sony a7s3...it's just a hobby for me though..
As I never used any of these cameras I don’t have a sophisticated opinion about them.
Niki, thanks for such an informative review. I have been shooting with Pany GH4 & GH5 & Sony FS5 cameras and looking for a step up. There is a lot to like (and dislike) about EVA1, so this review was very helpful. I will pursue this further on the FB group forum.
For the interior car shots, did you use rear projection or green screen for the backgrounds? It looks quite believable.
my pleasure Dave.... glad it was helpful for you.
@@MediaDivision Thanks. What was your process for the interior car shots background? Rear projection or green screen? It looks believable.
@@davidp158 neither.... background is pitch black and simply overlay with a little bit of rotoscoping will do the job
@@MediaDivision Thanks! Good job on the roto work.
@@davidp158 Thanks... super simple in this case
Love this. If you don't mind what tripod and head are you using here? I'm looking to get something to support the ursa mini pro g2. Great channel!
Thanks man... that is a very old Sachtler DV1... seriously underpowered and still
heavy. I just use it for lack of an alternative. If I would get a new one now, I would probably go for the Sachtler Ace XL & flowtech 75, but I have no experience with it that I could share
@@MediaDivision Seriously thanks so much. This is perfect as it's about the price I was looking to spend. I have to do a little more research but this looks great. Thanks again for all you do. Looking forward to future content from you!
Always always Ben… thanks for hanging!
@media division. Now that this video is over a year old what are your thoughts as to the camera now? We are looking to jump into full 4K format filming and don’t yet have The budget for RED. We do a ton of high action shooting and love the price point of the SD card over the CFast cards plus the ability to use EF mount lenses so that we can utilize our canon glass. Can this camera do 4K at 240fps? Also can you completely do away with the factory monitor and go with a stand alone Shogun setup? Also how well would you say this would work in a RoninM gimbal? Also is a GH5s a good pair up for a secondary camera or as a B roll camera? Thanks in advance. Very nice video.
RED is coming out with the Komodo soon... might be interesting if you are into RED. EVA is still a good cam... sure. Light, power efficient, and reliable. No camera I know of can do 4K at 240fps except the Phantoms (and they can do 1000fps to RAM) today. The best in class is the URSA mini G2 with 120fps at 4.6K. You could use the Shogun as the factory replacement, but then you cant use it as a recorder. Shogun is way to heavy anyways. get a small HD and keep the factory display for menus. Ronin M... not without hassle. EVA is long. Look at the MAVO as an alternative... much better for Gimbal use... but if you have a GH5s just make that your dedicated Gimbal cam. Cams intercut well (all modern pair quite well). Hope that helps.
Great video! Thanks. I'm still curious about a few things before buying one. I currently have a Shogun flame (w SDI) & a Ninja v, So could I get 4k raw from the EVA onto an SSD? Also, how bad is the 4k raw crop? the 5.7 k raw no crop looks dope, but it's nearly 40 min/ 1 tb SSD. Also thanks for talking about the GH5. I might pick 1 or 2 up with the Eva 1 if they match well to get some more angles on features and documentary work.
Thanks Toni.... Unfortunately You need a Shogun Inferno to record ProRes RAW. While the Ninja V has the guts to do it, it is missing an SDI port. Maybe Atomos will release an SDI add on in the future. Be aware that ONLY FCPX supports ProRes RAW at this time. I usually don't use the crop as it makes your FOV very narrow. Yes, EVA and the LUMIX lines match well.
@@MediaDivision Dang. That's a bummer. I honestly am really loving this camera, but I'm starting to think that an URSA Mini Pro 4.6K might be a better fit. I recently built a beast custom build that can edit 6k for under $2k and a similar apple build was $8k. Even though I can afford it, there's no way I can justify paying over $6k in apple taxes. It's honestly quite a shame and a bummer. Panasonic honestly almost had convert, but it looks like Black Magic might get my money if they don't come to a reasonable solution for PC users soon.
Ursa 4.6 Not a bad cam at all, but unusable for me to lack of sensitivity. In the end it is very rare that you'll be able to tell EVAs high end h264 apart from a RAW master...... and I use RAW on EVA and on the 6K Mavo LF... that can handle 10000iso no problem
@@MediaDivision Very true. I personally use 2 Sony A7S's for wedding/event work because I can push the ISO to the max, but due to the distributors that I will be working with in the future, actual RAW is a requirement. I think it's a bit silly because a properly set scene with log offers plenty of flexibility, but you gotta give your clients what they want at the end of the day.
@@tonythecameraguy9592 true true.... have a look at the Mavo LF.... the iso of an A7 with the recording options of BMD in a smaller package then a RED
My Panasonic S1 now has firmware upgrade to 14 stops ect. I'm a novice though, just learning how to use the camera. I have the Ronin S too.
Ok.......... I don't have a S1..... Panasonic decided not to supply one... And I don't have a Ronin S either... this is a Crane 2?!?
that was realy good thank you!
Thanks a lot... my pleasure Dikke
There was a firmware update (think 2.5) that adds smooth reduction mode for in camera noise reduction. Did you ever used this? (In this review the latest firmware update was 2.0) and this was a great overview! I have the panasonic gh5s and dvx200 now.
Hey Tom… no, I never used it. If I do noise reduction in general I do it in post, but it is surely nice for live or fast turnaround. EVA1 still has merits for people that do a lot of event and broadcast stuff. The BS1H has a much much cleaner image… I wish Panasonic would do a FF camera for pro work with good button layout and auto focus.
Amazing behind the scene!! Have you used black pro mist on this shoot or the "hazy" effect was made in post?
Thanks… there are many different productions in here… I can’t remember to have used pro mist or digital haze on any of them
Hello there! Thanks for this massive and classy review! I suppose and feel that it was a very honest review with a little bit of disappointing of the camera. I would like to ask if you would have chance to chose this camera again after one year wold you do it or try something else like c200 or Kinnefinity? (more or less same budget) Did Panasonic give any update since your "zoo" tests? ( i mean about this huge amount of compression internally that makes some footage unusable for pro work as You mention it there ) 240p/120p is a nice tool for telling stories and great gimmick for clients but is it now usable?(i think about it internally as LONG GOP, because if I will buy this EVA1 until end of january i wont be able to buy SHOGUN INFERNO at least until june so no raw/no pro-res for some time and i have to relay only on internal) I have watched this review few time this week and have a very hard decision to make :) Thanks in advance for any of Your thoughts! Cheers!
Hello Johnny... thank you for the flowers. If you got the impression that I am disappointed, let me ensure you that I am not. EVA1 is a great workhorse that have been shown to be reliable and very practical. Panasonics pro division really knows what it is doing. If EVA1 is for you, that really depends on what you are doing and what your needs are (duh). I am not married to Panasonic and I'm looking into the Mavo LF and used Alexas as well as the RED Gemini .... but all of those are systems that cost a multiple of EVA (Mavo LF is 2x if you build a comparable system) and none of them would be any good if you plan to do event work of want to do a docu at the south pole, in a war zone, jungle etc. :-) EVA is great at those... a light, fast (boot time, vary ND), reliable, low power, great low footprint codec. All a Kinefinity 4K, c200 etc. are not as good or worthless at. On top of that, it is quite decent for narrative stuff as well, though not comparable to a Alexa or a Helium/Gemini... ?! Of course not.
There have been many updates till the (zoo) "Forrest People" test I did... EVA became a very mature system since. Bug free from my point of view (something that Kinefinity user will has to fight with reading their forums... up to frying EF lens servos... better don't be at the south pole when that happens). Upgrade 2.0 brought 400mbps All-I internal (not an advantage over the 150mbps long GOP but Netflix requirement) and the really awesome RAW output up to 240fps!!! You will find plenty of examples for that in this video and on my channel. The aliasing effect has been dealt with by improving the math since release of this video. That is a whole new world since the "disappointing" hight fps of the zoo test. Is that as good as a Phantom... ?! Of course not.
The internal results are still not great, but I would say, that under good conditions the 120 is usable for most projects (not cinema or national TV!). I would see the shogun as a very important ingredient in an EVA1 setup. But you can go without (and high fps are overrated)... if you haven't seen this watch it: ua-cam.com/video/62ZhT8TNyK4/v-deo.html.... that works without a Shogun. You WILL need a good EVF or monitor anyways. LCD is unusable for serious work.
Would I buy EVA1 again? YES. At the moment, there is no new "contender" that is able to do what she does, IF your requirements match her abilities. Is EVA the perfect camera... ?! Of course not.
I would not buy EVA if: You shoot in low light all the time (get a A7s2, GH5s etc.) EVA is not so good in low light, do weddings most of the times (no one cares for the quality.... go get a GH5s, Pocket 4K or wait for the S system etc.), or do narrative work most of the time. I would prefer a Terra 4K, Mavo then.... if you can get hold of one.
EVA is extremely versatile and cheap to operate due to low cost media/batteries/light wight codec. I would choose her over the c200 in anything BUT low light and auto focus (if you are the kind of filmmaker that wants/needs one)
I really hope I was able to help you a bit making a sophisticated decision... good luck Johnny
@@MediaDivision Wow! Thanks Nicolas this is best and most informative answer I have ever get on UA-cam this 100% proves Your seriousness about that tool and taking people like me here also serious thanks fro that!
Since the day I decide to upgrade from gh5 (what is actually my work horse in all tough conditions -20 degrees / +30 degrees, on military area and on swimming pool as well and in huge rain) but.. I must upgrade the dynamic range because gh5 just fail in some more critical work and there is no right answer for client at such moments and ND's where is no time for screwing that filter on lens when you loose the shot, also this is silly but clients looks on your gear and when they see a "DSLR" like thing they start asking "what is this" and its getting really slick (even when they know your work and they like it much).
EVA1 was first idea and I need just to be sure is right way, my work is based on two types 100% pure Run&Gun doc/promos for clients that's why ND and light weight is great from EVA1 for gimbals.
Second (more controlled environment like commercials/music videos).
Low light....pain in the ass, when you can't use light or when you are owner/operator one man band. I assume from your video that its not so good and I have to keep up to 2500 at most cases. but I know that its impassable sometimes when you make DOC and just can't use light because this will for example distracts soldiers... :)
i was concerning terra 4k but this is still 4/3 sensor and sometimes its not enough also this is reason why I want upgrade to S35 to get rid of adapters like m4/ > EF.
Thank You Niclas very much for help, EVA1 is better choice than c200 from many perspective and probably I will go that way:) I hope that Panasonic will give presets for VFR because this is my only one concern about time when switching from 24>50 and higher. Thanks a lot! Cheers! Happy New Year full of new exciting work and new rich clients! :)
Long time Pana small camera user (GH 2, 4, 5) user here. For smaller projects, when have to operate on my own. Mostly I direct and sometimes edit; DoPs typically throw Canon C series, Mostly Sony Fs 5 , 7, and now Fx 9 footage at me.. Also EVA 1 and to a lesser degree, BM ursa. I crunch to all that output in post. My question: I have. been contemplated an EVA as an upgrade from GH5 (mostly happy with the image and codec) for the classic camcorder feature set (sound, internal NDs, haptic quality...) Since halfway through the vis this is not your concern, may I ask how you would choose today between EVA and SH1?
good question... and as always, it depends. For me, I would choose EVA over S1H for practical reasons (as you stated). For image alone, and if you don't work under pressure, I would go for the S1H
@Media Division, what is your opinion when comparing the EVA1 to the new SH1? I understand they are completely different in so many ways. But looking just at the picture, what would your opinion be?
Purely image wise?……… look close enough. 2 years of advancing technology is a lot our days.
dope video bro
Thank you!!!
What's a good gimbal/stabilizer for this camera for the moving shots?
These days… I would get a DJI RS3 pro with a Lidar if you have the funds. It gives this camera auto focus which is quite useful on a gimbal
Very helpful video, well presented too! I have just purchased an EVA1 and I noticed you refer to Green Screen working well. I shoot a fair number of Green Screen jobs in any given year. Can I ask, did you shoot the Green Screen work using the internal recording, or externally with the Inferno? Was wondering whether the 5.7K ProRes Raw would help with Green Screen, or actually because of no in-camera noise reduction when outputting raw that it could possibly be worse doing it this way? If you shot it internally did you record in 150mbps or 400mbps? Sorry for all the questions! Thank you.
Thanks Warner Vision… The green screen work in this was shot in 4K on an Inferno using ProRes HQ. I can see that the 5.7K might bring a little advantage, but it is hardly worth it when you shoot a lot of footage and the data demand is killing you. In my tests, I can't distinguish ProRes HQ from the internal long GOP or All-I. For me, it is more a matter of convenience to shoot ProRes until Apple delivers a machine that can take a punch or two… hope that helps!
Thank you for your quick response. Again, you've been very helpful. I've joined the Facebook group, so see you there too!
What camera you were using to film this video?
That was the GH5
What do you think of the Panasonic S1H feature set?
(I have an opportunity to get one for slightly cheaper than a Sony a7 III). - and maybe thinking of building a set of vintage Zeiss :)
I can't give you a sophisticated answer on that as I don't have one and never used one... looks good on paper for sure
Great vid
Thanks
Nice video. I would appreciate also a real in body IS. The E.I.S is just not usable when handled. The GH5 has such a good IBIS why not just take it from this line of products.
Thanks Corentin... while I would appreciate it, there are many pros who reject it categorically. There are problems with the GH5 to switch it of completely and having a vibration save system. I don't think it is going to happen and at this time no cine cam has IBIS (or Dual IS).... maybe for a reason. Look into the S1... that will be interesting and if Panasonic doesn't neuter it, it has the potential to overtake the pro market from the right.
Cinema camera's don't have this IBIS feature because they are giving the DP and director the option to choose from Steadycam, Gimble, EasyRig, or whatever. SO my guess they won't add this feature, which they should. Just like everyone ripped of Panasonic dual native ISO... Panasonic should add it. Atleast to EVA, maybe not Varicam lines..
@@AlexDerrick_DP Panasonic will have to make sure that the sensor does not move at all while IS is off. If that works it doesn't in the GH5), I don't see any reason why somebody would not want it.
Hey Nikolas. Why is there a system frequency menu item? Are changing those values the same thing as changing the frame rate in camera settings?
Hello Peter....most cameras have that. I guess you are aware of different power grid frequencies in different parts of the world and why it can be important to match that. The system frequency menu changes the BASE frame rate of your system. While you can set a different frame rate in the variable frame rate setting, sound is only recorded at base frame rate. Practically: If you shoot 50fps and you want sound... set the system frequency to that. If you want to mix that with 25fps with sound, set the system frequency to that.
I want to do 4K @ 50/60P for slow motion, is it better to record 4K crop RAW or connecting via HDMI to external recorder and getting down scaled 4K from 5.7K at 4:2:2 proress HQX? Is one sharper
Can i use my atomos shogun 7 for Pana EVA 1 to take proress RAW?
I don't have one, but according to Atomos specs… yes. www.atomos.com/shogun7
10:58 are you kidding? Benny Greb on drums?!?!?!
Oh... yes. ua-cam.com/video/b3IvZRRbQEw/v-deo.html
Thanks, i really like this cam. But i dont want to work whith Canon lenses... i got mft lenses and two L mount lenses... i really want a L mount version of this camera. Seems to be really good for my work.
This is an old video... these days, the S5IIx is the better deal, missing XLR of course - and the run times
¡Gracias por responder! @@MediaDivision
Question: Where do you leave your sharpness and noise reduction in your panasonic gh5 like -5,-3 and do you do anything in post for sharpness or noise reduction
We shoot everything vlog-L 0,0
@@MediaDivision thank you very much.
Hey I’m choosing my future Cine camera between the EVA1 - MINI URSA G2 and SONY FS7..
The only CON that knocks the PANASONIC EVA1 down from the others is the lack of 12Bit raw output...
Proress RAW seem to be the only support for the EVA-1 which I’m told is max of 10bit 5.7K so it’s not a true 12Bit raw file..
ARE THERE ANY EXTERNAL RECORDERS THAT CAN PULL A 12Bit 4K raw signal from the EVA1??
no...10bit is max. I do have other cams that have 12bit internal recording... it doesn't matter in any meaningful way.
Media Division what about the Prores Raw 10 not being a true Raw codec vs. 12 bit raw from others providing more bit depth and information.. For instance is bigger brother VARICAM LT, which can do 12Bit 4K raw.
Perhaps a raw comparison test as there are any on UA-cam?
12:57 Ooooh 😮 So That's How It's Done.
*Well Now*
Thanks… well, that is one way
May be have some shuter angle issues in your videos.. but any way is is nice
Except for Drones and Action cams I shot 180°… and Drones and Action cams have rendered 180° or keep shorter shutter for dramatic reasons
@media division 5:30 Can you please elaborate? What do you mean with being impressive enough?
impressive like... people are realising that you are a professional with a professional camera at work. If you stand there with a mirrorless, people often don't give you space or stand right in front of your lens... EVA is big enough to counter that.
@@MediaDivision ahh, so you mean that you look like a camera man and not a dude filming for his tiktok?
exactly
thanks
How good is the stabilizer performance if you put EF lens with IS? Many thanks
How would you put that in relation? Not as good as lens IS or IBIS but better then no IS.
@@MediaDivision Thank you for the reply :-)
Hi it is not correct about the preset. You can do it under "Menu->File->Setup File->Save As" and then you can save different the setups
At this time, there is no way to have quickly switchable presets! nI'm the admin of the largest EVA1 facebook group with tons on Panasonic Reps in it.... if there was a way.... believe me, I would know.
What connector does the monitor connect to this camera, I mean standard and not HDMI?
EVA1 has HDMI and 3G SDI out. SDI is as standard as it gets in the pro realm.
@@MediaDivision name of lcd connector, where. write. lcd on the body
haw match pin connector. have?
@@ggdfggdfgdffgfddg34 I don’t know…proprietary
I still don't understand why you don't use just one GH5s... It's suits far better to your work instead of the GH5.
it is not wort the price if you already have a GH5
@@MediaDivision If I see all your low light work, it is!
@@w.w.7148 Why would he need that if he has a eva1? why wouldn't he get a73 if he really needed amazing low light?