I love the codec surprise at the end, very intelligent. I didn't notice anything and even after you mentioned it. With your modest, sincere and intelligent approach this is a top class video. I'm learning. Thank you.
I had the exact same sentiments. I am thinking about the EVA-1 (I have the S1H, S5 and GH5s) and found a few of your marvellous videos (loved the one at the zoo with the orangutans). I love your delivery, I feel I am always learning something new when I watch your videos. Just subscribed. Cheers from Montreal, Canada!
Brilliant, nice work Nikolas. Thanks so much for taking the time to check it out and make a video to share. Appreciated. But they didn't go for your idea of selecting presets from the HOME screen...maybe next time??
Jeff Brass thanks a lot Jeff... no, they didn’t. While I do think that their solution works muh better, the implementation is a bit lazy. Still.... I take it in a heartbeat:-)
Extremely helpful as always, Nikolas. Given the plot twist (cheeky, cheeky), I'm going to use the HEVC on an upcoming gig. And thanks for the preset tutorial, setting those up now. Cheers!
Well, on second thought, maybe I'll stick to 422 Long GOP for now. Just shot a first test with HEVC and EVA glitched out on me. The video started skipping/chopping, all buttons became unresponsive and I had to take the battery out to reset. First time that happened...
Diggaaaaaaaaa! Das mit den presets hatte ich gar nicht mitbekommen, das ist ja geil! Also nicht perfekt gelöst, aber geil dass Panasonic da echt noch was geliefert hat
Unlike H.264 macroblocks, H.265 processes information in what’s called Coding Tree Units (CTUs). Whereas macroblocks can span 4x4 to 16x16 block sizes, CTUs can process as many as 64x64 blocks, giving it the ability to compress information more efficiently. because of that it can achieve better quality and efficient storage. Thanks Bro Nice Video.
For your kind of shooting style (at least you channels display), the GH5 is much better. Image is very comparable (slight advantage EVA) except for low light (big advantage EVA).
Apart from the grain "missing" and a very slight loss of texture it looks really good. For everything but (short) movies or music videos maybe I would use the internal Hevc codec. The grain inside the ProRes footage should work really well with narratives. :)
Well… yeah… but if you go very very close, you can see that the (aging) ProRes has blocking in grainy footage… HEVC has not. I will (for nor) stick to ProRes because editing is just easier on my (aging) MacPro. I am not even sure if I want to give ProRes the IQ lead in general.
@@DennisSchmitz yes… if there is a lot of grain…… in LT blocking is visible without magnification. With HQ it is nitpicking.... nobody will notice or care. Just like I show in this video (if you watched it to the end ;-)
Media Division all in all would u recommend this camera for wildlife? Im very close to buying it. Is the 240fps not adequate for wildlife? Would be very grateful for a reply from a pro :))
I think that EVA is a good bang for the buck... yes. If you are positive that you need something more then a mirrorless then the EVA is a good contender that checks most boxes. Low light could be better. For good quality slow mo I recommend the shogun Inferno for RAW recording. This is the closes I did to "wild"life ua-cam.com/video/xMdlNJVBwDo/v-deo.html and this is shot at 240 (RAW) ua-cam.com/video/WTJyzYSxrBI/v-deo.html
No, but you can do it the other way around… internally Vlog and a v-709 to external. Of course most monitor/recorders will also give you the option to burn in a look. But honestly, why would you? You can record vlog / internally and externally and monitor rec709 on both sides… even when you are using the internal files as Proxies, you would want the same color profile applied to it.
Will you ever dive into BlackMagic Products? I love your videos! Even if I am not using the direct camera in the video, the information is the most important part. Always willing to learn.
Thanks man!!! I watch videos about cameras I don’t own all the time... usually ones I can‘t afford :-). I just got the Kinefinity MAVO LF (as you might have seen in our latest episode) so, it is unlikely I‘ll get a BMD camera anytime soon... unless they gave me one :-))). The Pocket 4k looks very interesting for sure. Of course, I use Resolve all the time and my grading monitor is fired by a Decklink card... if you count those.
As I mix several codecs the time line is ProRes… but for the end result it doesn't matter. Premiere renders from the original file to the target - h264 for upload in this case.
@@MediaDivision Thank you for your reply, so if we put purism aside, I have the bad habit of overexposing (maybe one stop, not more) sometimes do I get to fix that in post without any noise with that bit rate the camera has built in?
With EVA I would suggest to overexpose by one stop most of the time (except in bright sunlight) … this is called Exposing to the the right (ETTR). The 10bit h264 is rock solid and looks/grades like ProRes HQ minus the performance. So, no problem. EVA is not great in low light, so a little grain is to be expected.
Vielen herzlichen Dank für die wirklich tollen Erklärungen! Auch wenn's schon ein bissl älter ist - Panasonic hat leider bei der Software zur Eva1 nichts Neues mehr gebracht. Beste Grüße und alles Gute!
@@MediaDivision Ok but in raw, for example, you have more information in highlights for recovery, so I ask you about this codec. Have you made a side by side comparation? Thanks again for your help
@@soulamentesoulo Panasonic doesn't claim a gain in dynamic range using RAW (so, more information in highlights or shadows that could potentially recovered) vs V-log. From my experience with ProRes RAW I can't see a gain either, but I didn't do side by side test.
Thanks man... It is reallly really simple to do your own, but if you send me your e-mail, you can have mine, sure. I would rather built my own, as there are just to many individual settings, like monitor outputs etc that are influenced. Just set everything up like you actually work, and then save that. Don't forget to make a copy from the file, as you a bound to format the card at some point.
@@MediaDivision awesome! Once I have my hand on this camera I will tinker around with presets and see if I run into any issues. What are your thoughts on this camera being a run and gun camera for documentary work (especially from a travel perspective)? Background: I am upgrading from an A7S II to do more commercial work, music videos, and increase the quality of my UA-cam productions. Ein schönes Wochenende wünsch ich aus Chicago
I'm not an expert on H265, but it seems like ProRes would be the better choice for color grading, so preferred choice for narrative films, and H265 would be the better choice for filming an event (memory cards & speed of delivery).
Mojave… but that is likely not the problem. Quicktime (as a viewer) is not reliable for anything. As I don't own your cam or ever worked with footage of it, I can't say whatz your problem is. I suggest you ask that in one of the camera specific Facebook groups
@@MediaDivision yes i thought so. doesn't matter the viewer, it's the same in final cut, premiere and davinci with video levels set to full. i can only play the files back properly on a windows machine.............. :@@@@@
Can 5.7K be recorded to a Shogun Inferno with ProRes (NOT ProRes RAW?) I don't want to use FCX, so it would be great to have access to 5.7K files in Premiere Pro.
@@MediaDivision So even though the Shogun Inferno can record regular ProRes, it can only record the 5.7K when recording to ProRes RAW? Is that a limitation of ProRes, or something to do with how the EVA1 sends RAW data to the Inferno? It's a bit disappointing, as 5.7K would be a great selling feature for this camera, that none of my clients are asking for. It's going to be a hard sell unless the client is editing in FCX.
@@davidp158 I have 16k ProRes 444 files... so no limitation there. Maybe the debayer is to much for Shogun at such resolution... if you want to know you will need to ask Atomos, I just don't know
Question Can You Explain When Your Text is Saying 60 FOR 24FPS Dose That Mean you Are converting it From 60p To 24p and if Yes How Are You Doing That Thanks
Yes… that is the standard way to produce a smooth slow motion. Every NLE does it differently. In Premiere, right click the footage … choose "interpret footage"… then choose "assume frame rate", and dial in the frame rate of your project. This way you don't have to calculate % it is always frame after frame
So Panasonic, how much do we have to wait to get HEVC 4k10bit 200mbps?? It has been requested for quite a while now and all those who want it have been using the anamorphic recording and then cut the extra pixels. This is not practical at all... As a deep ffmpeg user the difference between h264 and h265 is massive (when properly used and configured)
That made no sense?! There IS 200mbps HEVC now? Or did you feel it was too long a wait? How is this related to anamorphic? EVA has no namorphic use… so you can't use it... on the GH5 you would. This is not about the GH5. The low power consumption means that chipsets are in use that have very limited progamability but are super efficient at what they do. If you want a camera that is freely programmable (Kinefinity, BMD Ursa Mini) get ready to pack a lot of Vlog batteries
@@MediaDivision I'm an ave1 shooter... We have replaced all RED with eva1.... Only been doing this for 30 years. Had 3.0 for 7 days now. It's a perfect upgrade. Having a pre for slow mo 240 is what we demanded. Ps, very good vid on 3.0. Thumbs up.
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I love the codec surprise at the end, very intelligent. I didn't notice anything and even after you mentioned it. With your modest, sincere and intelligent approach this is a top class video. I'm learning. Thank you.
Moin Uddin thanks a lot Uddin. And thanks for watching... we learn together always always .... it’s halve the fun of the job
I had the exact same sentiments. I am thinking about the EVA-1 (I have the S1H, S5 and GH5s) and found a few of your marvellous videos (loved the one at the zoo with the orangutans). I love your delivery, I feel I am always learning something new when I watch your videos. Just subscribed. Cheers from Montreal, Canada!
Love the twist at the end! Clever, profound and humbling!
Thanks DMV.... trying to make it entertaining
OMG that ending plot twist!!!!
awesome review and video
Thanks Darko!!!!!!!
The surprise at the end was such a nice touch! Definitely switching to HEVC.
Thanks man :-)
Brilliant, nice work Nikolas. Thanks so much for taking the time to check it out and make a video to share. Appreciated. But they didn't go for your idea of selecting presets from the HOME screen...maybe next time??
Jeff Brass thanks a lot Jeff... no, they didn’t. While I do think that their solution works muh better, the implementation is a bit lazy. Still.... I take it in a heartbeat:-)
Nice touch in the ending with the split screen :-)
Oren Kirschenbaum thanks Mr Cherrytree ... yeah... I really think it doesn’t matter.
Extremely helpful as always, Nikolas. Given the plot twist (cheeky, cheeky), I'm going to use the HEVC on an upcoming gig. And thanks for the preset tutorial, setting those up now. Cheers!
Thanks a lot Matt ;-) Glad I could be helpful
Well, on second thought, maybe I'll stick to 422 Long GOP for now. Just shot a first test with HEVC and EVA glitched out on me. The video started skipping/chopping, all buttons became unresponsive and I had to take the battery out to reset. First time that happened...
@@MVRhodes Hmmm… didn't happen to me… but as you well know .0 is a dangerous number
Indeed.
Learning a lot with this UA-cam channel.
Greetings from Bogotá, Colombia.
Glad you do... thanks for hanging
Thanks Nikolas, your videos are always a great help!
My pleasure Iskander… thanks for watching!
Amazing video as always
Thanks man!!!! And thanks for hanging around ;-)
Diggaaaaaaaaa! Das mit den presets hatte ich gar nicht mitbekommen, das ist ja geil! Also nicht perfekt gelöst, aber geil dass Panasonic da echt noch was geliefert hat
OffToNewAdventures hat aber auch Vorteile... das “hacken” der files is echt cool und erspart viel Arbeit
Thank you for all the work! really appreciated!
My Pleasure Bradyn!
Unlike H.264 macroblocks, H.265 processes information in what’s called Coding Tree Units (CTUs). Whereas macroblocks can span 4x4 to 16x16 block sizes, CTUs can process as many as 64x64 blocks, giving it the ability to compress information more efficiently. because of that it can achieve better quality and efficient storage.
Thanks Bro Nice Video.
Thanks Dinesh… I think that people interested in the codec can look up the specifics… so I didn't bother explaining what h265 does
always great video bro,keep working!!
Thanks.... I'll do my best.
Great work as always. Thanks!
Thanks Nomad………… appreciated!
Oh, I would live to have this camera!
For your kind of shooting style (at least you channels display), the GH5 is much better. Image is very comparable (slight advantage EVA) except for low light (big advantage EVA).
@@MediaDivision Yeah, I'm working with a GH4 for now.
@@BlackWarriorLures Still a good cam… use it all the time as a crash cam hoping it doesn't crash ;-)
@@BlackWarriorLures Lumix S might be your camera
@@MediaDivision I am interested to see how the S series turns out.
I love your channel brother.
Thanks a lot man… I wish more would ;-)
Apart from the grain "missing" and a very slight loss of texture it looks really good.
For everything but (short) movies or music videos maybe I would use the internal Hevc codec. The grain inside the ProRes footage should work really well with narratives. :)
Well… yeah… but if you go very very close, you can see that the (aging) ProRes has blocking in grainy footage… HEVC has not. I will (for nor) stick to ProRes because editing is just easier on my (aging) MacPro. I am not even sure if I want to give ProRes the IQ lead in general.
@@MediaDivision Even visible in ProRes HQ?
Noticed it in 422 quite a few times and LT is plain unusable most of the time (in 4K at least).
@@DennisSchmitz yes… if there is a lot of grain…… in LT blocking is visible without magnification. With HQ it is nitpicking.... nobody will notice or care. Just like I show in this video (if you watched it to the end ;-)
Great more codecs and algorithms to add.
this dude is soooo good!
Thank you my dear sir :-)))
Media Division all in all would u recommend this camera for wildlife? Im very close to buying it. Is the 240fps not adequate for wildlife? Would be very grateful for a reply from a pro :))
I think that EVA is a good bang for the buck... yes. If you are positive that you need something more then a mirrorless then the EVA is a good contender that checks most boxes. Low light could be better. For good quality slow mo I recommend the shogun Inferno for RAW recording.
This is the closes I did to "wild"life
ua-cam.com/video/xMdlNJVBwDo/v-deo.html
and this is shot at 240 (RAW)
ua-cam.com/video/WTJyzYSxrBI/v-deo.html
@@MediaDivision thank you very much!!! :)
Footage looks great
MatthewTriola thanks man
Wait whoa! At the end there, was that prores raw HQ and h.265? Or just prores hq and h.265?
ProRes Raw and HG with Atomos Shogun/ SDI
@@MediaDivision so you can record raw and h.265 at the same time?
I don’t remember… it is ages ago
Can the EVA1 record internally in Rec709 while simultaneously recording in VLOG L externally (SDI and or HDMI)?
No, but you can do it the other way around… internally Vlog and a v-709 to external. Of course most monitor/recorders will also give you the option to burn in a look. But honestly, why would you? You can record vlog / internally and externally and monitor rec709 on both sides… even when you are using the internal files as Proxies, you would want the same color profile applied to it.
Will you ever dive into BlackMagic Products? I love your videos! Even if I am not using the direct camera in the video, the information is the most important part. Always willing to learn.
Thanks man!!! I watch videos about cameras I don’t own all the time... usually ones I can‘t afford :-). I just got the Kinefinity MAVO LF (as you might have seen in our latest episode) so, it is unlikely I‘ll get a BMD camera anytime soon... unless they gave me one :-))). The Pocket 4k looks very interesting for sure. Of course, I use Resolve all the time and my grading monitor is fired by a Decklink card... if you count those.
Was this a native h.265 timeline for this edit matching the camera file output? Thanks.
As I mix several codecs the time line is ProRes… but for the end result it doesn't matter. Premiere renders from the original file to the target - h264 for upload in this case.
I do not understand one thing about this camera - it allows internal raw recording or not?
It does not… only RED does compressed RAW beyond 2K internally ... as they own a patent. BRAW is not considered a RAW format
@@MediaDivision Thank you for your reply, so if we put purism aside, I have the bad habit of overexposing (maybe one stop, not more) sometimes do I get to fix that in post without any noise with that bit rate the camera has built in?
With EVA I would suggest to overexpose by one stop most of the time (except in bright sunlight) … this is called Exposing to the the right (ETTR). The 10bit h264 is rock solid and looks/grades like ProRes HQ minus the performance. So, no problem. EVA is not great in low light, so a little grain is to be expected.
@@MediaDivision Thank you for the rock solid information.
@@MediaDivision One last question - if you have to recommend me a low-light sensitive sensor would it be a sony based camera?
Vielen herzlichen Dank für die wirklich tollen Erklärungen! Auch wenn's schon ein bissl älter ist - Panasonic hat leider bei der Software zur Eva1 nichts Neues mehr gebracht. Beste Grüße und alles Gute!
Ja leider… alle Cameras haben Ihre Zeit. Danke und liebe Grüße
are you going to test the lumix s1?
I'm a big sandwich if I get one... sure
Same highlights information or recovery for h264 and h265 codecs? Thanks!!
Same dynamic range……… so, yes
@@MediaDivision Ok but in raw, for example, you have more information in highlights for recovery, so I ask you about this codec. Have you made a side by side comparation? Thanks again for your help
@@soulamentesoulo Panasonic doesn't claim a gain in dynamic range using RAW (so, more information in highlights or shadows that could potentially recovered) vs V-log. From my experience with ProRes RAW I can't see a gain either, but I didn't do side by side test.
@@MediaDivision Ok, perfect!! thank you for the quick and very clear response!!
Great video on the update. I am looking into buying an EVA1. Any plans to share your presets?
Btw Great plottwist ;)
Thanks man... It is reallly really simple to do your own, but if you send me your e-mail, you can have mine, sure. I would rather built my own, as there are just to many individual settings, like monitor outputs etc that are influenced. Just set everything up like you actually work, and then save that. Don't forget to make a copy from the file, as you a bound to format the card at some point.
@@MediaDivision awesome! Once I have my hand on this camera I will tinker around with presets and see if I run into any issues. What are your thoughts on this camera being a run and gun camera for documentary work (especially from a travel perspective)? Background: I am upgrading from an A7S II to do more commercial work, music videos, and increase the quality of my UA-cam productions.
Ein schönes Wochenende wünsch ich aus Chicago
I'm not an expert on H265, but it seems like ProRes would be the better choice for color grading, so preferred choice for narrative films, and H265 would be the better choice for filming an event (memory cards & speed of delivery).
You use whatever suits you and fits your workflow. Quality wise it doesn't make a difference.
@@MediaDivision That's exciting to hear, I look forward to working with it.
which OS are you on? mojave or high sierra? im getting crushed blacks and blown highlights with my fuji xt3 h.265 10bit codec when viewed on mac.
Mojave… but that is likely not the problem. Quicktime (as a viewer) is not reliable for anything. As I don't own your cam or ever worked with footage of it, I can't say whatz your problem is. I suggest you ask that in one of the camera specific Facebook groups
@@MediaDivision yes i thought so. doesn't matter the viewer, it's the same in final cut, premiere and davinci with video levels set to full. i can only play the files back properly on a windows machine.............. :@@@@@
@@snak4716 that is confusing. Especially in Resolve and with data levels it shouldn't matter.
Can 5.7K be recorded to a Shogun Inferno with ProRes (NOT ProRes RAW?) I don't want to use FCX, so it would be great to have access to 5.7K files in Premiere Pro.
Sorry Dave... it is ProRes RAW only..... 4K crop can be recorded to CDNG and all high framerate RAW can be recorded as ProRes HQ
@@MediaDivision So even though the Shogun Inferno can record regular ProRes, it can only record the 5.7K when recording to ProRes RAW? Is that a limitation of ProRes, or something to do with how the EVA1 sends RAW data to the Inferno? It's a bit disappointing, as 5.7K would be a great selling feature for this camera, that none of my clients are asking for. It's going to be a hard sell unless the client is editing in FCX.
@@davidp158 I have 16k ProRes 444 files... so no limitation there. Maybe the debayer is to much for Shogun at such resolution... if you want to know you will need to ask Atomos, I just don't know
Question Can You Explain When Your Text is Saying 60 FOR 24FPS Dose That Mean you Are converting it From 60p To 24p and if Yes How Are You Doing That Thanks
Yes… that is the standard way to produce a smooth slow motion. Every NLE does it differently. In Premiere, right click the footage … choose "interpret footage"… then choose "assume frame rate", and dial in the frame rate of your project. This way you don't have to calculate % it is always frame after frame
@@MediaDivision I See Now Thanks
Not a cinema cam, but my cx350 has same codecs not any RAW THO.
OK… many many cams have h264 and h265 codecs of different quality, resolution, framerate, bitrate... but how is this relevant in the context?
when 12 bit depth?
never... it't wouldn't make a difference in your work
15:00 It tells me that I've been trolled lol
If it had the right effect… good Troll ;.-)
So Panasonic, how much do we have to wait to get HEVC 4k10bit 200mbps?? It has been requested for quite a while now and all those who want it have been using the anamorphic recording and then cut the extra pixels. This is not practical at all... As a deep ffmpeg user the difference between h264 and h265 is massive (when properly used and configured)
That made no sense?!
There IS 200mbps HEVC now? Or did you feel it was too long a wait? How is this related to anamorphic? EVA has no namorphic use… so you can't use it... on the GH5 you would. This is not about the GH5. The low power consumption means that chipsets are in use that have very limited progamability but are super efficient at what they do. If you want a camera that is freely programmable (Kinefinity, BMD Ursa Mini) get ready to pack a lot of Vlog batteries
Pro res... Playback speed is wrong in the 60 to 24....
I know… forgot to "interpret footage" to 24… doesn't really influence the quality seen here… there is one later where I didn't forget
@@MediaDivision I'm an ave1 shooter... We have replaced all RED with eva1.... Only been doing this for 30 years. Had 3.0 for 7 days now. It's a perfect upgrade. Having a pre for slow mo 240 is what we demanded. Ps, very good vid on 3.0. Thumbs up.
@@KevlarCondom thanks man
They need to add hevc to ghseries
GH5 anamorphic and photo modes are hevc... I use them all the time
If you shoot well with the OG varicam, and add some sharpness, no one is gonna know, other than it being HD. lol.
YASS give me the codecs, daddy
There you go my son ;-)
@@MediaDivision Yayyy!
This is (not) related to Evangelion, UA-cam....
No, it is not… thank god.