Anybody watching this video, look no further; this is the most informative and comprehensive review. This is the ultimate review of ND Miata. BTW Thank you, your channel has tons of information!! I subscribe and👍👍👍
@@DriveMX5 THANK YOU. I literally drove to Mazda for deposit my 22 Miata after watching your review! I can not thank enough for sharing your experience with this car.
Right? I had this on in the background while multitasking and after 15min or so I thought, "Goddamn this is a long and comprehensive review, yet zero rambling, this guy went all out." Check the time and there's still almost 20 min left, lol.
This is one of the best and most well spoken reviews I’ve seen on the ND2! One feature that I think is cool about the engine that wasn’t mentioned is Mazda put an oscillating feature on the throttle body to counter act low speed bucking when you’re crawling along in 1st gear. I don’t think I’ve heard of any other car with that feature and it’s a cool idea. Makes it very smooth in stop and go.
Thank you so much bro! I didn’t wanna get too technical in the video haha, that’s why I included the links for those details. I really appreciate the feedback, and agree with you, that was a genius update
Good call on the engine comment. My 2018 Club would buck like crazy at low speed, like 15 MPH between about 1500 and 2500 RPM; it reminded me of my mom learning to drive a stick shift, back in the '60's when I was a kid! Initially, the turbo I installed magnified that issue, but was supposed to have been eliminated with the tune by Fab 9...I never got to find out as my car burned up completely in the garage with my home this last June. That said I replaced it with the exact same model but a 2021 ND2, RF Club with BBS/Recaro Package in Machine Gray. The power difference between the ND1 and ND2 is really pretty dramatic.
@default That's odd, do you have a tune?. My 2021 is nice and smooth, no bucking at all. My 2018 did it in 1st and 2nd gears, first gear was pretty bad.
I own a 2017 RF GT and I've watched many ND/ND2 videos, and I have to say... BEST MIATA OWNER REVIEW VIDEO EVER!!! With the amount of detail provided for every aspect of this car, I'd swear you were one of Mazda's Miata factory engineers! Excellent!
I neglected watching this video because i didn’t recognize the creator. But can confidently say this is likely the best ND2 video published. I now own a 2021, and this video has helped me learn everything i need to know!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate the feedback and glad you enjoyed the video. To tell you the truth, I filmed the talking and driving portion 4 different times!!! It was very difficult for me and took that many tries until I was happy with it lol.
I have a 2016 soul red soft top and I am ridiculously in love with it. I am 6'3" and I still fit pretty well in there. I had an NB that was good but this is a whole new level. I agree with the door length. It's a real squeeze, even in the garage, to get into the car with the tight remaining angle. The NB was much easier to get out of. I think they could have added more detents for door position as well. And yes, the door arm rests are not comfortable. I do not mind the stock seats but they could be better quality fabric. The telescopic steering column is a great upgrade but if you have monkey arms like me it is not much of an issue. The revised motor adds needed power but I have never felt that mine was lacking in power particularly. I would mention that the 5 link rear is spectacular at tracking. I do feel that excessive lateral body movement translates into the rear end settling outward in turns and the body lean is noticeable. It does "set" after the swing and lean but it is a soft spot. Older models felt more planted and confident in the corners. (The other attributes of the car make up for it!) I feel that this is partially due to the pillow ball bushings at 3 outer points on the links, and perhaps the other bushings could be stiffer. I blew one out and replaced it with a neoprene blank. There are no replacement single bushings form factory, they make you purchase the whole outer knuckle so you have to get creative. I think there is a race spec bushing set issued by Mazda out there as well for dear price. Larger sway bars are a really good upgrade to these cars. Helps markedly with the body lean. Upgrading to the Bilstein shocks makes a load of difference as well. There are quite a few used sets on evilbay from folks that went to coil overs. I find the car to be just fine with the Bilsteins. Finally, the trans and rear differential oils need to be changed far more often than you would think. The fluid gets dark and burnt quickly. This may be due to the oil Mazda uses to produce a smoother "cold" shift. I have found the Lucas synthetic 75/90 gear oil to improve the notchy synchro feel and the shift to reverse, and it runs just fine in cold weather in the front and rear. I really think it should be changed every 30K. Even 50K is too long in my opinion. They really are fantastic cars to drive and I get so many compliments and people looking at the badging to find out what it is. I take it out often in the high mountain roads here in Northern NM it always puts a smile on my face. Cheers and thanks for the in depth review!
Thanks for watching! I agree with everything you said. I haven’t tried to Lucas fluid yet but may try that next. I swapped mine to Motul Comp 75-140 and it was harder to shift when cold but nice once warmed up. Went back to Mazda fluid after moving to a place that actually gets cold
Wait ur 6’3 and fit in a miata? I’m 6’1 in shoes and needed to take my shoes off in a 2022 mx5 to “just” fit with the seat all the way back, lowered down and the telescopic steering wheel pushed all the way up. Granted my legs are longer than my torso but still I can’t imagine fitting comfortably in this car at your height without customising the seat.
After watching this, I'm definitely going for the MX-5. The GR86/BRZ twins are also a good alternative if you live anywhere else in the world, but in the Philippines the twins are priced at a national non-negotiable low low price of US$43k vs the MX-5's US$35k They're supposed to be competitors but pricewise and with your review, the MX-5 is the clear winner
I loved this car when we did the review together. Really happy to see you still have it and happy to see you're still really enjoying it! It's a great daily, and makes everything so much more fun
I just got a MX5 Club for a 24 hour test drive, and it's so lovely to handle. I like the convenience of the auto, but feel like manual is the way to drive this car. I recently drove an MS3 and the torque steer was challenging for me. Being a short woman, I find the Miata to be very comfortable, even with the top up. Love the color scheme on your edition, wish they would make that a regular option. Thanks for the info!
Thank you so much for watching! I have not driven the Speed3 but have heard the same thing from others about the torque steer. Auto Miata is nice but manual is more engaging and satisfying in my opinion. Are you thinking of purchasing an MX5?
@Magnus-pm7ic it just depends on your Mazda dealerships and some do give money or exchange up to a limited mileage and days before you can return if unsatisfied
I recently ordered a 22 GT convertible and your excellent revue allows me to know I did the right thing as I part with my 2000(SE). Thanks for such a good revue.
I am picking up a brand new ND2 next week and just stumbleded over your long term review. I have to say that you're doing a really good job creating content! I really enjoyed it. Kudos to you!
As an ND2 owner (May 2021) I think this review is spot on. The car is better in every way than the NC I had before except for the steering feedback - exactly my experience!
Not even interested in driving or owning one of these but I watched the video anyway because I love well-made videos of owners talking about and showing off their cars.
@@Cam-pe3nd I really appreciate your kind words! I like the 944 Turbo. Wanted to get one a while ago but was hesitant on potential maintenance and repairs. Let me know when you make your video, I’d love to see it! (FYI I filmed this video on like 4 or 5 different occasions. Took me a while to be happy with the footage I got. So take your time and don’t give up!)
The DMF was added to stop transmission failures. Even the V5 trans in your 2019 will fail with the SMF, as some people have found out the hard way with 2016-2018s. The DMF totally solved the problem.
I totally agree, and that’s why I made sure to touch on that topic. I think the slight trade off in throttle responsiveness is worth the improvement in smooth shifting and reliability
In my 2015 ND1 I store the flat tyre repair package in one of the cubby holes behind the seats. In the other, I store a modern flat battery jumper pack (the type that has the rechargeable LiOn batteries). Still leaves a little room left for other less-used nick-knacks.
This is by far the best, informative MX5 ND review I have ever come across, well done mate and your effort is greatly appreciated. Someday.... I ll look for a ND2.
Excellent comprehensive review! I had a ND2 GT manual soft top and I absolutely loved it. I stupidly sold it after only 6 months for a nice profit. I am already planning on getting another ND2 in the future.
Its the cars incredible reliability, that's what i have found the most impressive, having owned my Sep 2021 Sports Venture Edition from new. The car doesn't come out in the winter, so stays in my garage for seven months of the year. Even when stationary for so many months, the tyre pressures have remained constant, with no loss of pressure. Of all the cars ive owned, my MX is without doubt the most reliable car ive ever owned. Everything else about the car, is just testimony to Mazdas brilliance in manufacturing superb cars
It makes it such a worry-free car to own and enjoy, one of the many perks of having one! You can have fun with it and own it without worrying about service and maintenance costs burning a hole in your wallet!
I own the 2019 ND2 RF. Overall, I love the car. But as with any car, there will always be some negatives. As you mentioned, the armrest is one of them. They could have at least extended the width by an inch. Secondly, the cupholder should have been at least a couple of inches deeper. Thirdly, the 12-volt socket should have been placed somewhere else, not deep down the passenger footwell. And finally, on the console where you would put your phone, I wish it was a little longer and flatter.
Thank you so much for watching! I felt like owning the car and driving it almost daily the past two years has given me better insight than the typical reviewers have. I'm glad you enjoyed the video! The ND has its flaws just like every other car, but overall a great and fun vehicle.
I made my initial comment of my vision/experience only letting this play in background realizing what an ultimate review this is of miata nd, particularly with the advice of us taller drivers which need that room, great insight depth will watch entirely
Wow, great in-depth review! I own a 2021 and totally agree with everything you said. I found that the tiny center space below the infotainment controls is a great place for my sunglasses. The only thing I would add is that I wish the seatbelt had height adjustment because it digs into your neck if you are under 6 ft tall.
I have a 2016 ND1 which I love. I do have an upgrade that I added that I will bet that most people probably have not thought of. The trunk in the car while larger than I expected but still obviously very small. I take my car from my main home to my summer home and I have to take more stuff w me than will fit in the trunk. I put a trailer hitch on my car and I tow a Harbor Freight clamshell trailer for the stuff that will not fit into the trunk. I keep my speed on the interstates to about 69 mph and I slow down on hills to reduce the strain on the engine and I have not ever had any problems. I still get about 36 mpg with the trailer.
This is an excellent review. Super thorough and detailed. I’m planning on selling my NB1 Miata for a used ND2 next year. The interior seems much more usable in the ND2. The NB has terrible cup holders, super annoying to deal with especially if you have a passenger.
Your knowledge of the different Generations by owning / driving these roadsters & working for the dealership is fantastic. Your 30th Anniversary Edition sure has some nicer features. Yes the paint can be an issue but when I bought my 2016 Club with the Brembo / BBS package also added the PPF that the dealer sub contracted to a shop 2 blocks away. It was $900 extra for the front that was laser cut to the car. Well worth the cost. Like you I bought an axle back exhaust from Flying Miata that has a butterfly valve that opens when you step on the gas. Really sounds good when you want it but won't bother the neighbors at 5:00am. Honest in depth review !
I have a 18 club 6 speed manual. Full bolt ons supercharger. Transmission is good at 76500 miles. Corksport short shifter. Changed rear diff and Transmission fluid 30k intervals. No clutch dumps.
Now on my 4th MX-5 from 2016 ~ 2023, I' just ordered the Goodwin Racing muffler Part# 61-1733, which is the same Goodwin muffler you have. I have to wait until my grandson has the time to come over the do the install for me. I can't do that kind of shit anymore at the age of 78. My 1st two cars back in the '60's were MGB's, a '64 and then a '66 MGB. Raced the '64 and drove the '66. All I had to do with the sound was to cut off the resonators, the stock mufflers were ok. City driving in D.C. with those mufflers were a blast with all the echoing between all the buildings in town. 👍 Excellent review!
Great review! I bought a 2021 RF in October and it was videos like this that helped with the (easy) decision to buy. Mine has been in the garage since Thanksgiving and has only 750 miles on it so far. Awesome review!
Thank you! I figured that’s one of those things that a lot of reviewers don’t notice because they have limited time with an often new car, hence why I wanted to provide a review from an ownership point of view
Nice review! I have the 2021 RF Club with BBS/Recaro Package in Machine Gray and I had to laugh at your liking of the cup holders. I think every other review I've seen for the MX-5, the reviewer griped about the cup holders! LOL! I think they are innovative and functional and don't mind them at all. I don't know when people became so reliant and adamant about having to have a drink in the car; it's almost like they think without one, you might die or something! When I grew up, we would drive for hours and hours before stopping to get anything to drink, and we all lived through it! Your assessment of the infotainment system is pretty spot on with my thoughts. As far as storage or the lack of it, I kinda like that, as it doesn't allow clutter! My phone fits in the cubby in front of the shifter while it's in the leather holster I use. A holder for sunglasses might be nice but I can make do! I love this little car. My 2018 had 8,300 miles and only 6 rock chips; I fixed them with Dr. Colorchip and after doing a few coats , filling the chip in, I had a really hard time finding them. My 2021 has no chips that I know of but I only have 3,700 miles on it; I am very mindful of following too closely. Talking about the road noise ... I have had a 2018 ND1 RF with BBS Package and now my 2021. I bought my 2018 in Eugene, OR and they have very rough pavement due to the amount of rain they get. The road noise on rough pavement would drown out the stereo to the point I just turned it off. On good, smooth pavement it's fine.
@@uploadtime1780 Negative...I have only driven the RF. 2018, 2019 which I test drove before buying my 2018 RF and my 2021 RF after losing my '18 in a fire that annihilated my entire home. The RF really is the perfect "convertible" for Northern Nevada. At an elevation of nearly 5,000 feet, the sun is intense. Top down driving at noon on a warm sunny day is really no bueno, unless you like to get the top of your head fried (no I am not bald! LOL). Also, the UV is much more intense at our elevation it rots and eats up anything left out in the sun on a constant basis.
I currently have a 2016 Miata club softtop. Love the car. It is an automatic, but will be getting a 2024 club softtop with Manuel transmission early next year in the crystal red. My only complaint is Mazda needs better paint selections.
@@DriveMX5 Modified 2000 Toyota Mr2 Spyder w/ hardtop. 2ZZ engine/6 speed swap, coilovers, bracing etc. I find that I fit in the Spyder better than any MIata or S2000 that I have tried on and that includes the 2019 MX-5 ND RF. I have lived in FL for 7 years and with the exception of a couple trips to the Tail of the Dragon the car seldom gets driven. I am moving back to Ohio this weeks. When spring comes the car will get much more use on the SE Ohio twisties.
just bought a 2023 mx5 AUTOMATIC my wife really wanted t. having a 2018 m4 comp 2021 supra 2015 ref 2013 m3 comp i have to sa, obviously its not in the same league as a 400 hp sports car, but its fun its handing is GOOD, but light. i like it, I'm happy i bought it
As an owner of ND1, I could say the only things I don't like about the stock mx-5 are: 1) Body roll (easy fix) 2) Slow Infotainment system with annoying safety advice each time you start the engine ( you could fix this by hacking the system, highly recommended) 3) 4 bolt pattern wheels, you don't have many options for new wheels (no easy fix) As this video states, this is an excellent sports car!
Excellent review and very tasteful mods! I've have an ND1 since 2016 and upgraded pretty much everything over time except for boost (SC or TC). Its my daily driver and I still love it after almost 6 years. I'm a shorter guy so fits me perfect - a lot of my taller mates (6 ft +) have fitment issues with it being so little. Most of them have really quick cars (Audi RS etc) but they love driving my car just for the rawer experience. Love this channel from Canberra, Australia.
Thank you so much! They are a totally different driving experience to those cars, fun in their own way. I’m definitely on the top end of someone who fits, and luckily I’m not the type of person that desires lots of headroom or legroom or I wouldn’t like it either. But also depending on body type, if a taller person has really long legs or torso, I imagine they would have trouble fitting in the car. Do you have plans to boost your car in the future?
@@DriveMX5 I've look into it heaps here in Oz and found a few places that boost the ND - but really so scared with the ND1 2016 transmission issues - I've never pulled the trigger. I'm content with the way it is. So jealous of your Recaros and Brembos :(
@@MrJorgie73 I totally understand that. Maybe exhaust and a tune would be a happy medium between more power and safety for your transmission? The Recaros and Brembos are lovely. I know there are Wildwood kits for these cars if you want to step up the brakes, or perhaps find a used set of Brembos. They pop up every now and again here in the states. Same with the Recaros
You're welcome! I've heard of it happening to several others, including one of my old coworkers, and her car had about the same mileage on it when it went as mine did.
OMG dude. That steering wheel looks SO much better than the factory one. I think you’ve done just the right amount of mods to make the ND2 pretty much perfect. Great comprehensive review man. 👍
@@DriveMX5 No prob! And yes, absolutely. I felt that the stock wheel was much too thin, and it actually took away from the sporty driving experience. Tell me if you agree, but I actually felt like that type of thin steering wheel belongs on a classic car, and has no place being on a modern sports car. Side note: I feel like you would appreciate knowing this also. I watched your whole review start to finish to do research for my own review on a 2020 ND2 😅 Should be done editing it and posting it in about a week or 2!
I had a 1994 Miata , the interior was shite. I didn’t care because it was such a blast to drive. Your interior is like a high end sports car… so sweet.
Thank you! I think for back in the day, the old Miata interiors were fine, especially on the M Editions. But they really did a great job with the 30AE. The color scheme and alcantara in the interior really did elevate it
I owned a '21 ND RF and replaced the stock Bridgestone Potenza run-flat tires with Michelin Pilot Super Sports. The difference in ride was amazing. The sidewall in the non-run flat tires is supple, where the Potenzas felt rigid and unforgiving. I wouldn't go back.
This is the most thorough review of the MX-5 I've seen so far. Many of the downsides are not mentioned in other reviews. Nicely done! Only thing missing is, how does it do if you leave it out when it rains often? Would I need to worry about water getting in?
Thank you very much! And no need to worry about water intrusion, with one caveat. The drains on either side of the soft top need to be checked/cleaned out ever so often or water can pool up underneath/behind the seats. There’s a few good videos on UA-cam showing where the drains are at how to clean them. It’s just a screened basket that collects leaves and large debris
Thanks for the great review. I’ve got a 2016 in the GS trim which in Canada came with the limited slip diff. I love this car more than any other I’ve ever owned. My wife calls it “the other woman”. I tried previous gen Miatas but never fit, always found myself staring straight at the top bar of the window. For some reason this one fits. I’m a bit over 6’ tall.
I love every iteration of the Miata, and own an NB2, but I do think my favourite is the ND2, even more than an NA6 or NA8, which are also phenomenal cars. The ND2 just takes all the things Mazda did so well in the previous generations and made it into a more performance-oriented car, which I think was an excellent decision. NAs and NBs are less performance and more playful roadster, the NC sorta loses a little bit of that but starts to explore that more performance side, and the ND took it a step further. I'm looking forward towards a hybrid-yet-still-fun-lightweight-and-manual Miata. Good review.
They are probably my favorite seats I've had in a car. Really impressive, especially considering the price point of this vehicle. Occasionally I'll see them up for sale on MX-5 Facebook groups but do they go for a pretty penny!
Excellent break down. This video very clearly highlights the differences between the ND1 and ND2 models, which has helped me out a lot! I have a much better idea of which ND to select.
If you are going to mods, save yourself a lot of money and get an ND1 with the E85 tune from Fab9, and an exhaust. It will walk away from pretty quickly from a lightly modded ND2 and really pull away from a stock one.
If you want 200whp you’ll need: - 4-1 header, a cat less down mid pipe, your GWR exhaust, a Fab9 custom tune for those mods (plus 93 octane) , and AEM drop in air filter and the aftermarket intake hose that replaces the OEM black accordion piece. It won’t be cheap but that should get you near your goal.
I have an NA 1991.5, longnose crank 1.6. It's a wonderful car, though I haven't had it on the road for about 5 years. I need to get off my ass and get it going again for work to save gas. Even after I installed the Greddy Turbo Kit in it I still got 30-33mpg. Before the turbo I was getting about 40mpg. Of course that is if I drive it nicely, which I rarely did. I got mine from a Santa Monica Mazda, they got it in trade in from an old lady who bought it, serviced it, and traded it in there so I knew I was getting a sweet deal. I've been thinking about buying another, probably an NB but I love my pop up headlights.
Per 23:00 - major issues for the interior: 1) Passenger floor hump & Bose subwoofer 2) The RF center cubby hole is RIDICULOUSLY shallow. The soft top is much deeper 3) Watch for your left knee causing wear just above the speaker on the driver side door over time 4) No lumbar support adjustment for the seats 5) The infotainment screen should be slightly angled towards the driver 6) The stock steering wheel is too thin
Well done, agree with the other commenters, very good comprehensive review. And I can confirm pretty much everything you said, I have an early 2019 soul crystal red RF. I haven’t (but want to) lowered mine yet as you say they do sit a bit tall from factory but not terrible. I have FM sway bars, LED lights, versus rear diffuser and Goodwin racing muffler, like you I wasn’t unhappy with the stock muffler, it was ok, but just ok. An after market muffler really wakes them up sound wise. I did PPF on the front but I’ve still managed to collect a few punch throughs even with it from rocks. Also daily drive mine and have done a couple longer road trips. I’ve got a plastic bin that fits in the “well” of the trunk I keep a spare jacket, first aid, flashlight, tire chains (since I daily this car even in winter - which, by the way, they handle brilliantly in the snow - ive never even opened the chains but they are required by law so I have them) and the like but I can still comfortably pack for 2 for a week long road trip or get 3 bags of groceries and a half rack of beer in the trunk. Costco runs however are still better left to the family truckster LOL. Your assessment of the transmission is spot on, it encourages quick shifts but even so I’ve managed to miss a few spirited gear changes and it really feels like a synchro problem. I do have the brembos but didn’t get the recaro seats in my club trim - kinda wish I had but I do notice some similar issues with the seat materials you’ve pointed out. I drive it like I stole it and still manage 29.5 MPG around town 6 month average. I’ve gotten as good as 43 on longer road trips. I worked at a Mazda dealership when the NA first launched and fell in love with them the minute I drove it, all these years later I had both the means and the lack of contradiction (read kids, dog, etc to haul around) to ownership and going on 3 years I still love this car every single time I look at it, drive it, mod it, and my wife loved it so much she got one for herself! So now we have a SCR (red) and a ceramic metallic 2019. In closing I am not a huge fan of the steering wheel either and have been looking at options to swap and I have to say yours looks fantastic! Next stop, looking up that wheel! Cheers
Thank you so much for watching and your reply! That's awesome to hear that you were able to work for Mazda when the first NA came out and see those in person when they were brand new, and congrats to you and your wife for both having Miatas! They have their issues like every other car, but those issues are quite minor and you can't beat their combination of fun, reliability, and affordability. Happy motoring!
Also, on my 2020 Club, the softop was replaced under warranty, I’m on my 3rd infotainment screen due to the de-lamination issues, also under warranty, and Mazda repainted the ENTIRE FRONT HALF OF THE CAR under warranty - (I have soul red 46V) - because there were, get this: 240+ rock chips - the dealer counted and they agreed to repaint it. It’s an adhesion issue for the most part from the factory in Japan.
Wow! I’m sorry to hear you’re having these issues. I’m impressed and glad to hear you were able to get the car repainted but I’m shocked you’re having trouble with your top and screen. No issues with either of mine yet, thankfully! Other than the top rubs a bit on the roll bars but I never did anything about it
Leather shift and brake boot will upscale that console. Redline Goods has any variation of stitching and colors custom fit for MX5. My Cipher steering wheel has held up and still looks great at 120,00 miles (2016 Club).
I'm hoping my Zymexx wheel holds up like that as well! I like the shift and ebrake boot that it came with, but did have those from Redline Goods on my NA and loved them! Thinking of getting a shift knob at some point, my stock one is showing some wear sadly.
I have owned Miatas since 2001. My current Miata, a 2021 RF Club BBR is my 6th and my 4th ND. I imagine it will be my last as the rumor is the next Miata will be electrified. My RF Club with the GoodWin Racing SSST exhaust is such a superb vehicle that I may never let go of her. I’m 71…so it’s time to slow down with my car purchases. 😂
@@DriveMX5 …i agree! my license plate reads: SO MCH FN… I also owned several S2000s, a Mustang Mach1, a Vette, Supra and a 300ZX and for pure driving enjoyment my current RF Club wins hands down. Btw, i really enjoy your videos. Great content without the goofy “entertainment” some reviewers deem necessary! 👍
Yesterday I was actually looking into the Miata and the 124 Spyder. I love those 30th anniversary wheels. Never cared for the wheels on the normal Miata or the Club sport wheels. I like the Fiat exterior a little more than the miata, but the two Mazdas I’ve owned have definitely sold me on Mazda reliability and design. Mazda is an excellent hidden gem of an automobile manufacturer. They make cars for car enthusiasts 😂
The non BBS club wheels are ok but IMO the GT chrome ish wheels are horrendous. Awful - especially with certain colors. The only OEM wheels I find looks good on all ND colors are the BBS wheels.
outstanding review indeed!!! this is one of those few reviews where you can watch over n over again without getting tired of it like those select movies you can watch 100+ times and never gets old.i fully agree about the screen vs being lower with taking your eyes OFF the road and line of sight very very important piece there,again outstanding review!!!
On the wind noise... The order from quietest to loudest is: RF with roof up, Softtop with roof up, Softtop with roof down, RF with roof down. This isn't widely-enough acknowledged, but the RF has pretty dramatic wind noise with the top open. Source: I have a 30AE RF, and have compared with the (softtop ND) cars of other members in my local club. Also: if you track the car frequently and plan to add a roll-bar - you need a softtop because there is no roll-bar solution for the RF that still allows the roof to fold away.
You got that spot on. I used to sell Mazdas and noticed the same thing after driving both versions. Hopefully somebody will make a rollbar that still allows the RF roof to function. If I had an RF and fabrication skills, I would go for it.
I have 84,000+ miles on my '16 Sport. Nothing done other than replacing the stock brakes with Wilwoods from Flyin' Miata, the rear calipers were freezing up from road salt here in New Hampshire. I have a set of wheels with snow tires, the car does OK in snow even though it doesn't have a LSD. It also sees several miles of dirt roads daily, not the usual conditions for these.
Excellent take on the ND2. Love your 30AE. Agree that the steering wheel is a little thin and that the stock exhaust sounds just OK. I have the stock seats (ND2 Club) and it does feel that you sit on top instead of in them. The seats (+ exhaust sound) are far better on my old NA and the old car feels larger inside and has more storage space. But, I think the ND2 is an amazing car and is does so much so well while looking like an exotic. Love it! Agree with you that it still looks fresh. We are unbelievably lucky that Mazda is keeping the faith, especially at $30k-ish. If this had a Porsche badge in the hood, it would be in the $50s.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate your comment and watching the video! And I agree with everything you said. It’s not a perfect car, but it’s still fantastic, especially in this day and age
I love the Miata but one thing is like scratching on a chalkboard. I wish Mazda would delete the cheap looking and feeling infotainment screen. In its place, simply use an adjustable mount or in-dash cubby with usb-c connector for smart phones. Keep the interior clean.
They don't need to change the door cut lines, it would ruin the design proportions. And besides, Miata parking is at the back of the lot where nobody else goes anyways. 🤣
Haha very true! I agree as well, I love the look of the door, just not how long it is lol. Some coupes have used double hinges to help with that problem, would've been cool to see that here but it's really not that big of a deal and I understand why they didn't implement that
I like the way you talk about the miata and how you put sooo much useful information in a relatively short video, you did an extremely good job with that, sir :) and you know a miata enthusiast when you hear one speak about it. I own a 2019 Miata myself (soft-top) and i just love it. Never had any problems with it, nothing went wrong, no malfunction, it just makes a squeaky noise when its cold and i drive slow. it has something to do with the wheels cause it's in a regular interval. I wonder where you got the trunk tray from?! It looks so much cleaner and more organized.
Thank you so much! The trunk tray is called a cargo tray, it’s from the Mazda dealership. Basically an all-weather mat for the trunk and it’s awesome! Easy to clean, looks good, keeps the carpet fresh
Anybody watching this video, look no further; this is the most informative and comprehensive review. This is the ultimate review of ND Miata. BTW Thank you, your channel has tons of information!! I subscribe and👍👍👍
Thank you so much! I appreciate you watching and glad I can be of help!
@@DriveMX5 THANK YOU. I literally drove to Mazda for deposit my 22 Miata after watching your review! I can not thank enough for sharing your experience with this car.
Right? I had this on in the background while multitasking and after 15min or so I thought, "Goddamn this is a long and comprehensive review, yet zero rambling, this guy went all out." Check the time and there's still almost 20 min left, lol.
I was about to comment the same thing, I've consumed A LOT of mx 5 vids and this is by far the best one
I sub too
This is one of the best and most well spoken reviews I’ve seen on the ND2! One feature that I think is cool about the engine that wasn’t mentioned is Mazda put an oscillating feature on the throttle body to counter act low speed bucking when you’re crawling along in 1st gear. I don’t think I’ve heard of any other car with that feature and it’s a cool idea. Makes it very smooth in stop and go.
Thank you so much bro! I didn’t wanna get too technical in the video haha, that’s why I included the links for those details. I really appreciate the feedback, and agree with you, that was a genius update
Good call on the engine comment. My 2018 Club would buck like crazy at low speed, like 15 MPH between about 1500 and 2500 RPM; it reminded me of my mom learning to drive a stick shift, back in the '60's when I was a kid! Initially, the turbo I installed magnified that issue, but was supposed to have been eliminated with the tune by Fab 9...I never got to find out as my car burned up completely in the garage with my home this last June. That said I replaced it with the exact same model but a 2021 ND2, RF Club with BBS/Recaro Package in Machine Gray. The power difference between the ND1 and ND2 is really pretty dramatic.
@@alangross2277 aww man, I’m really sorry to hear about the fire… are you planning on turbocharging or supercharging your new one?
@@DriveMX5 No turbo on the '21 planned. May do exhaust and tune down the road. Right now concentrating on getting our home demoed and rebuilt.
@default That's odd, do you have a tune?. My 2021 is nice and smooth, no bucking at all. My 2018 did it in 1st and 2nd gears, first gear was pretty bad.
Possibly the most comprehensive ND owners review I have seen on UA-cam. Useful info. Great job!
Thank you so much!
I own a 2017 RF GT and I've watched many ND/ND2 videos, and I have to say... BEST MIATA OWNER REVIEW VIDEO EVER!!!
With the amount of detail provided for every aspect of this car, I'd swear you were one of Mazda's Miata factory engineers! Excellent!
Thank you so much! I tried to be as thorough as I could. I really appreciate your kind words and watching the video!
There was a 2017 RF? Is that an ND1 then?
@@BrightNightmares that’s correct!
I neglected watching this video because i didn’t recognize the creator. But can confidently say this is likely the best ND2 video published. I now own a 2021, and this video has helped me learn everything i need to know!
Thank you so much! Congrats on your MX-5!!
Great level-headed and well informed review. Not just a love fest. No idea how you explain so much, so well, and while driving!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate the feedback and glad you enjoyed the video. To tell you the truth, I filmed the talking and driving portion 4 different times!!! It was very difficult for me and took that many tries until I was happy with it lol.
I have a 2016 soul red soft top and I am ridiculously in love with it. I am 6'3" and I still fit pretty well in there. I had an NB that was good but this is a whole new level. I agree with the door length. It's a real squeeze, even in the garage, to get into the car with the tight remaining angle. The NB was much easier to get out of. I think they could have added more detents for door position as well. And yes, the door arm rests are not comfortable. I do not mind the stock seats but they could be better quality fabric. The telescopic steering column is a great upgrade but if you have monkey arms like me it is not much of an issue. The revised motor adds needed power but I have never felt that mine was lacking in power particularly. I would mention that the 5 link rear is spectacular at tracking. I do feel that excessive lateral body movement translates into the rear end settling outward in turns and the body lean is noticeable. It does "set" after the swing and lean but it is a soft spot. Older models felt more planted and confident in the corners. (The other attributes of the car make up for it!) I feel that this is partially due to the pillow ball bushings at 3 outer points on the links, and perhaps the other bushings could be stiffer. I blew one out and replaced it with a neoprene blank. There are no replacement single bushings form factory, they make you purchase the whole outer knuckle so you have to get creative. I think there is a race spec bushing set issued by Mazda out there as well for dear price. Larger sway bars are a really good upgrade to these cars. Helps markedly with the body lean. Upgrading to the Bilstein shocks makes a load of difference as well. There are quite a few used sets on evilbay from folks that went to coil overs. I find the car to be just fine with the Bilsteins. Finally, the trans and rear differential oils need to be changed far more often than you would think. The fluid gets dark and burnt quickly. This may be due to the oil Mazda uses to produce a smoother "cold" shift. I have found the Lucas synthetic 75/90 gear oil to improve the notchy synchro feel and the shift to reverse, and it runs just fine in cold weather in the front and rear. I really think it should be changed every 30K. Even 50K is too long in my opinion. They really are fantastic cars to drive and I get so many compliments and people looking at the badging to find out what it is. I take it out often in the high mountain roads here in Northern NM it always puts a smile on my face. Cheers and thanks for the in depth review!
Thanks for watching! I agree with everything you said. I haven’t tried to Lucas fluid yet but may try that next. I swapped mine to Motul Comp 75-140 and it was harder to shift when cold but nice once warmed up. Went back to Mazda fluid after moving to a place that actually gets cold
Wait ur 6’3 and fit in a miata? I’m 6’1 in shoes and needed to take my shoes off in a 2022 mx5 to “just” fit with the seat all the way back, lowered down and the telescopic steering wheel pushed all the way up. Granted my legs are longer than my torso but still I can’t imagine fitting comfortably in this car at your height without customising the seat.
@@sjdunks1115 I used to be jealous of you tall guys until I got my first Miata.
Now is that the oil you use only in the trans? Or is that the diff as well?
@@Josiah_Richards I use it in both with good effect. No complaints. Change every 30K or after a hard summer of driving.
After watching this, I'm definitely going for the MX-5.
The GR86/BRZ twins are also a good alternative if you live anywhere else in the world, but in the Philippines the twins are priced at a national non-negotiable low low price of US$43k vs the MX-5's US$35k
They're supposed to be competitors but pricewise and with your review, the MX-5 is the clear winner
I loved this car when we did the review together. Really happy to see you still have it and happy to see you're still really enjoying it! It's a great daily, and makes everything so much more fun
Beautiful car, love the color.
Very in-depth review.
Thanks.
MIATA is always the answer!
Thank you!!!
I just got a MX5 Club for a 24 hour test drive, and it's so lovely to handle. I like the convenience of the auto, but feel like manual is the way to drive this car. I recently drove an MS3 and the torque steer was challenging for me. Being a short woman, I find the Miata to be very comfortable, even with the top up. Love the color scheme on your edition, wish they would make that a regular option. Thanks for the info!
Thank you so much for watching! I have not driven the Speed3 but have heard the same thing from others about the torque steer. Auto Miata is nice but manual is more engaging and satisfying in my opinion. Are you thinking of purchasing an MX5?
Get a manual with the suspension upgrades (Bilsteins LSD). So much fun. Housework and laundry is piling up, but Miata!
If I’m not mistaken the RF version/edition is automatic but you can turn on the manual driving using the shifter
How do you get a 24hr test drive
@Magnus-pm7ic it just depends on your Mazda dealerships and some do give money or exchange up to a limited mileage and days before you can return if unsatisfied
I’ve watched A LOT of Miata reviews. This is clearly the best one I’ve seen. Learned a few things here I had never heard before. Very informative!
Glad to hear that! Thank you so much for watching!
I recently ordered a 22 GT convertible and your excellent revue allows me to know I did the right thing as I part with my 2000(SE). Thanks for such a good revue.
You are so welcome, thank you very much for watching, and congrats on your new Miata! You're going to love it!
I am picking up a brand new ND2 next week and just stumbleded over your long term review. I have to say that you're doing a really good job creating content! I really enjoyed it. Kudos to you!
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed the video! Congrats on your purchase, you’re going to love it!
As an ND2 owner (May 2021) I think this review is spot on. The car is better in every way than the NC I had before except for the steering feedback - exactly my experience!
Not even interested in driving or owning one of these but I watched the video anyway because I love well-made videos of owners talking about and showing off their cars.
Thank you for watching! What do you drive?
@@DriveMX5 Currently a 1987 Porsche 944 Turbo! One day I'd like to make a video about it with the depth and quality you've got here.
@@Cam-pe3nd I really appreciate your kind words! I like the 944 Turbo. Wanted to get one a while ago but was hesitant on potential maintenance and repairs. Let me know when you make your video, I’d love to see it! (FYI I filmed this video on like 4 or 5 different occasions. Took me a while to be happy with the footage I got. So take your time and don’t give up!)
The DMF was added to stop transmission failures. Even the V5 trans in your 2019 will fail with the SMF, as some people have found out the hard way with 2016-2018s. The DMF totally solved the problem.
I totally agree, and that’s why I made sure to touch on that topic. I think the slight trade off in throttle responsiveness is worth the improvement in smooth shifting and reliability
In my 2015 ND1 I store the flat tyre repair package in one of the cubby holes behind the seats. In the other, I store a modern flat battery jumper pack (the type that has the rechargeable LiOn batteries). Still leaves a little room left for other less-used nick-knacks.
That's smart!
What an incredible comprehensive review
I felt like I was experiencing the ownership
Well done! 😀
Thank you so much! That’s exactly what I was aiming for
This is by far the best, informative MX5 ND review I have ever come across, well done mate and your effort is greatly appreciated.
Someday.... I ll look for a ND2.
Thank you so much! I hope you get the chance to own one very soon!
Excellent comprehensive review! I had a ND2 GT manual soft top and I absolutely loved it. I stupidly sold it after only 6 months for a nice profit. I am already planning on getting another ND2 in the future.
Thank you so much! Hey, selling for a profit is not that bad. I'm sure you'll have the chance to grab another one some day!
Its the cars incredible reliability, that's what i have found the most impressive, having owned my Sep 2021 Sports Venture Edition from new.
The car doesn't come out in the winter, so stays in my garage for seven months of the year.
Even when stationary for so many months, the tyre pressures have remained constant, with no loss of pressure.
Of all the cars ive owned, my MX is without doubt the most reliable car ive ever owned.
Everything else about the car, is just testimony to Mazdas brilliance in manufacturing superb cars
It makes it such a worry-free car to own and enjoy, one of the many perks of having one! You can have fun with it and own it without worrying about service and maintenance costs burning a hole in your wallet!
Really thorough review, great job. Your opinions and mod choices always align with mine. All the best with your recent move.
I own the 2019 ND2 RF. Overall, I love the car. But as with any car, there will always be some negatives. As you mentioned, the armrest is one of them. They could have at least extended the width by an inch. Secondly, the cupholder should have been at least a couple of inches deeper. Thirdly, the 12-volt socket should have been placed somewhere else, not deep down the passenger footwell. And finally, on the console where you would put your phone, I wish it was a little longer and flatter.
I agree with all of that!
I agree on the deeper console area but my phone mounts to the side anyway.. i only use that spot to put my wallet or airpod case occasionally
@@dan428 How do you mount yours? Looking for a solution on mine
@@danielfisher5804 I use the CravenSpeed Gemini Phone Mount .. it's a bit pricey but worth it
Really want to thank you for this honest review. Most other people just sing the praises and I don’t think they are being completely honest.
Thank you so much for watching! I felt like owning the car and driving it almost daily the past two years has given me better insight than the typical reviewers have. I'm glad you enjoyed the video! The ND has its flaws just like every other car, but overall a great and fun vehicle.
I made my initial comment of my vision/experience only letting this play in background realizing what an ultimate review this is of miata nd, particularly with the advice of us taller drivers which need that room, great insight depth will watch entirely
I have an ND1 but your observations are spot on.
Wow, great in-depth review! I own a 2021 and totally agree with everything you said. I found that the tiny center space below the infotainment controls is a great place for my sunglasses. The only thing I would add is that I wish the seatbelt had height adjustment because it digs into your neck if you are under 6 ft tall.
my god. a feature that punishes tall people in a miata? that is a turn up
I use a clip on the shoulder belt to allow for some slack there, the drawback is that the belt won't retract without unclipping.
Wonderfully done, just hit 1k on my 22 RF GT - Mazda should be paying you and every salesperson owes you a thank you.
Great job!
Thank you so much! I was a Mazda salesman for just over two years actually. All because I wanted to sell more Miatas lol!
I have a 2016 ND1 which I love. I do have an upgrade that I added that I will bet that most people probably have not thought of. The trunk in the car while larger than I expected but still obviously very small. I take my car from my main home to my summer home and I have to take more stuff w me than will fit in the trunk. I put a trailer hitch on my car and I tow a Harbor Freight clamshell trailer for the stuff that will not fit into the trunk. I keep my speed on the interstates to about 69 mph and I slow down on hills to reduce the strain on the engine and I have not ever had any problems. I still get about 36 mpg with the trailer.
Nice! I'm amazed at that mpg, seems to not be stressing your car out.
This is an excellent review. Super thorough and detailed. I’m planning on selling my NB1 Miata for a used ND2 next year. The interior seems much more usable in the ND2. The NB has terrible cup holders, super annoying to deal with especially if you have a passenger.
Your knowledge of the different Generations by owning / driving these roadsters & working for the dealership is fantastic. Your 30th Anniversary Edition sure has some nicer features. Yes the paint can be an issue but when I bought my 2016 Club with the Brembo / BBS package also added the PPF that the dealer sub contracted to a shop 2 blocks away. It was $900 extra for the front that was laser cut to the car. Well worth the cost. Like you I bought an axle back exhaust from Flying Miata that has a butterfly valve that opens when you step on the gas. Really sounds good when you want it but won't bother the neighbors at 5:00am. Honest in depth review !
I have a 18 club 6 speed manual. Full bolt ons supercharger. Transmission is good at 76500 miles. Corksport short shifter. Changed rear diff and Transmission fluid 30k intervals. No clutch dumps.
Now on my 4th MX-5 from 2016 ~ 2023, I' just ordered the Goodwin Racing muffler Part# 61-1733, which is the same Goodwin muffler you have. I have to wait until my grandson has the time to come over the do the install for me. I can't do that kind of shit anymore at the age of 78. My 1st two cars back in the '60's were MGB's, a '64 and then a '66 MGB. Raced the '64 and drove the '66. All I had to do with the sound was to cut off the resonators, the stock mufflers were ok. City driving in D.C. with those mufflers were a blast with all the echoing between all the buildings in town. 👍 Excellent review!
Great review! I bought a 2021 RF in October and it was videos like this that helped with the (easy) decision to buy. Mine has been in the garage since Thanksgiving and has only 750 miles on it so far. Awesome review!
Awesome! I hope you've been loving and enjoying it so far, and have the chance to put more miles on it soon. Thank you so much for watching!
I’ve watched pretty much every review of the ND on UA-cam and I declare you the winner. Exceptionally detailed video bro
Thank you so much! I tried to be as thorough and genuine as possible and I’m glad you enjoyed it!
The only video which has shown the thin paint coating issue. Great info that no other videos give. Very insightful!
Thank you! I figured that’s one of those things that a lot of reviewers don’t notice because they have limited time with an often new car, hence why I wanted to provide a review from an ownership point of view
I especially appreciated the POV camerawork for the interior, not something I've seen from other reviews. Thanks!
Nice review! I have the 2021 RF Club with BBS/Recaro Package in Machine Gray and I had to laugh at your liking of the cup holders. I think every other review I've seen for the MX-5, the reviewer griped about the cup holders! LOL! I think they are innovative and functional and don't mind them at all. I don't know when people became so reliant and adamant about having to have a drink in the car; it's almost like they think without one, you might die or something! When I grew up, we would drive for hours and hours before stopping to get anything to drink, and we all lived through it! Your assessment of the infotainment system is pretty spot on with my thoughts. As far as storage or the lack of it, I kinda like that, as it doesn't allow clutter! My phone fits in the cubby in front of the shifter while it's in the leather holster I use. A holder for sunglasses might be nice but I can make do! I love this little car. My 2018 had 8,300 miles and only 6 rock chips; I fixed them with Dr. Colorchip and after doing a few coats , filling the chip in, I had a really hard time finding them. My 2021 has no chips that I know of but I only have 3,700 miles on it; I am very mindful of following too closely. Talking about the road noise ... I have had a 2018 ND1 RF with BBS Package and now my 2021. I bought my 2018 in Eugene, OR and they have very rough pavement due to the amount of rain they get. The road noise on rough pavement would drown out the stereo to the point I just turned it off. On good, smooth pavement it's fine.
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed the cup holder part 😂 that’s a good point about the storage, it does prevent us from just cluttering up our cars.
Did you try the soft top too with regards to road noise?
@@uploadtime1780 Negative...I have only driven the RF. 2018, 2019 which I test drove before buying my 2018 RF and my 2021 RF after losing my '18 in a fire that annihilated my entire home. The RF really is the perfect "convertible" for Northern Nevada. At an elevation of nearly 5,000 feet, the sun is intense. Top down driving at noon on a warm sunny day is really no bueno, unless you like to get the top of your head fried (no I am not bald! LOL). Also, the UV is much more intense at our elevation it rots and eats up anything left out in the sun on a constant basis.
I currently have a 2016 Miata club softtop. Love the car. It is an automatic, but will be getting a 2024 club softtop with Manuel transmission early next year in the crystal red. My only complaint is Mazda needs better paint selections.
I am not a Miata enthusiast but I must say that this was a very well done review of the car. Excellent presentation!
Thank you so much! What do you drive?
@@DriveMX5 Modified 2000 Toyota Mr2 Spyder w/ hardtop. 2ZZ engine/6 speed swap, coilovers, bracing etc. I find that I fit in the Spyder better than any MIata or S2000 that I have tried on and that includes the 2019 MX-5 ND RF. I have lived in FL for 7 years and with the exception of a couple trips to the Tail of the Dragon the car seldom gets driven. I am moving back to Ohio this weeks. When spring comes the car will get much more use on the SE Ohio twisties.
just bought a 2023 mx5 AUTOMATIC my wife really wanted t. having a 2018 m4 comp 2021 supra 2015 ref 2013 m3 comp i have to sa, obviously its not in the same league as a 400 hp sports car, but its fun its handing is GOOD, but light. i like it, I'm happy i bought it
As an owner of ND1, I could say the only things I don't like about the stock mx-5 are:
1) Body roll (easy fix)
2) Slow Infotainment system with annoying safety advice each time you start the engine ( you could fix this by hacking the system, highly recommended)
3) 4 bolt pattern wheels, you don't have many options for new wheels (no easy fix)
As this video states, this is an excellent sports car!
Thanks for the video, lots of information I didn't get elsewhere, and I've been looking at it for quite some time. Thanks again!
Excellent review and very tasteful mods! I've have an ND1 since 2016 and upgraded pretty much everything over time except for boost (SC or TC). Its my daily driver and I still love it after almost 6 years. I'm a shorter guy so fits me perfect - a lot of my taller mates (6 ft +) have fitment issues with it being so little. Most of them have really quick cars (Audi RS etc) but they love driving my car just for the rawer experience. Love this channel from Canberra, Australia.
Thank you so much! They are a totally different driving experience to those cars, fun in their own way. I’m definitely on the top end of someone who fits, and luckily I’m not the type of person that desires lots of headroom or legroom or I wouldn’t like it either. But also depending on body type, if a taller person has really long legs or torso, I imagine they would have trouble fitting in the car. Do you have plans to boost your car in the future?
@@DriveMX5 I've look into it heaps here in Oz and found a few places that boost the ND - but really so scared with the ND1 2016 transmission issues - I've never pulled the trigger. I'm content with the way it is. So jealous of your Recaros and Brembos :(
@@MrJorgie73 I totally understand that. Maybe exhaust and a tune would be a happy medium between more power and safety for your transmission? The Recaros and Brembos are lovely. I know there are Wildwood kits for these cars if you want to step up the brakes, or perhaps find a used set of Brembos. They pop up every now and again here in the states. Same with the Recaros
Thank you for mentioning the AC line, glad I'm not the only one this happened to
You're welcome! I've heard of it happening to several others, including one of my old coworkers, and her car had about the same mileage on it when it went as mine did.
OMG dude. That steering wheel looks SO much better than the factory one. I think you’ve done just the right amount of mods to make the ND2 pretty much perfect. Great comprehensive review man. 👍
Thank you so much!!! I definitely think Mazda should’ve done a more special/sporty wheel for these cars from the factory
@@DriveMX5 No prob! And yes, absolutely. I felt that the stock wheel was much too thin, and it actually took away from the sporty driving experience. Tell me if you agree, but I actually felt like that type of thin steering wheel belongs on a classic car, and has no place being on a modern sports car.
Side note: I feel like you would appreciate knowing this also. I watched your whole review start to finish to do research for my own review on a 2020 ND2 😅 Should be done editing it and posting it in about a week or 2!
@@DoubleClutchAutoReviews I completely agree. I’ll make sure to check out your video when it’s posted!
@@DriveMX5 👍👍 Thanks, bro! I’d appreciate that. Great job on the video. You earned a new subscriber. 😎
Double clutching remedies the notchy engagement of syncros on cold start
I had a 1994 Miata , the interior was shite. I didn’t care because it was such a blast to drive. Your interior is like a high end sports car… so sweet.
Thank you! I think for back in the day, the old Miata interiors were fine, especially on the M Editions. But they really did a great job with the 30AE. The color scheme and alcantara in the interior really did elevate it
I owned a '21 ND RF and replaced the stock Bridgestone Potenza run-flat tires with Michelin Pilot Super Sports. The difference in ride was amazing. The sidewall in the non-run flat tires is supple, where the Potenzas felt rigid and unforgiving. I wouldn't go back.
Best review, thanks for the time and effort.
Thank you so much for watching and the kind words, I really appreciate it!
This is the most thorough review of the MX-5 I've seen so far. Many of the downsides are not mentioned in other reviews. Nicely done! Only thing missing is, how does it do if you leave it out when it rains often? Would I need to worry about water getting in?
Thank you very much! And no need to worry about water intrusion, with one caveat. The drains on either side of the soft top need to be checked/cleaned out ever so often or water can pool up underneath/behind the seats. There’s a few good videos on UA-cam showing where the drains are at how to clean them. It’s just a screened basket that collects leaves and large debris
Ya the chassis rigidity was the first thing I noticed. Even just going 5mph in a parking lot.
Thanks for the great review. I’ve got a 2016 in the GS trim which in Canada came with the limited slip diff. I love this car more than any other I’ve ever owned. My wife calls it “the other woman”. I tried previous gen Miatas but never fit, always found myself staring straight at the top bar of the window. For some reason this one fits. I’m a bit over 6’ tall.
I love every iteration of the Miata, and own an NB2, but I do think my favourite is the ND2, even more than an NA6 or NA8, which are also phenomenal cars. The ND2 just takes all the things Mazda did so well in the previous generations and made it into a more performance-oriented car, which I think was an excellent decision. NAs and NBs are less performance and more playful roadster, the NC sorta loses a little bit of that but starts to explore that more performance side, and the ND took it a step further. I'm looking forward towards a hybrid-yet-still-fun-lightweight-and-manual Miata.
Good review.
Thank you for taking the time to make the video very detailed
Thank you for watching!
Best ND2 review ever. Thank you!
Thank you so much!
I like this review, as a ND2 OWNER you nailed it
Thank you so much!!
As many others already said, great video. One of the best ND in-death videos. Many useful information and details. Good job, thanks 👌
Thank you so much! I appreciate you watching and sharing your feedback
Those recaro seats are amazing , wish I could get them in mine
They are probably my favorite seats I've had in a car. Really impressive, especially considering the price point of this vehicle. Occasionally I'll see them up for sale on MX-5 Facebook groups but do they go for a pretty penny!
Excellent break down. This video very clearly highlights the differences between the ND1 and ND2 models, which has helped me out a lot! I have a much better idea of which ND to select.
I’m glad it was helpful and thank you for watching!
If you are going to mods, save yourself a lot of money and get an ND1 with the E85 tune from Fab9, and an exhaust. It will walk away from pretty quickly from a lightly modded ND2 and really pull away from a stock one.
@@Storm88000 How much does that cost?
If you want 200whp you’ll need:
- 4-1 header, a cat less down mid pipe, your GWR exhaust, a Fab9 custom tune for those mods (plus 93 octane) , and AEM drop in air filter and the aftermarket intake hose that replaces the OEM black accordion piece. It won’t be cheap but that should get you near your goal.
I very much doubt that
I have an NA 1991.5, longnose crank 1.6. It's a wonderful car, though I haven't had it on the road for about 5 years. I need to get off my ass and get it going again for work to save gas. Even after I installed the Greddy Turbo Kit in it I still got 30-33mpg. Before the turbo I was getting about 40mpg. Of course that is if I drive it nicely, which I rarely did. I got mine from a Santa Monica Mazda, they got it in trade in from an old lady who bought it, serviced it, and traded it in there so I knew I was getting a sweet deal. I've been thinking about buying another, probably an NB but I love my pop up headlights.
You remind me why I am glad I bought a 2021 Mazda MX-5 RF Grand Touring.
Good video. I just bought a 2019 club as my first car
Thank you, and very cool, congrats on your purchase! What an awesome first car!
Per 23:00 - major issues for the interior:
1) Passenger floor hump & Bose subwoofer
2) The RF center cubby hole is RIDICULOUSLY shallow. The soft top is much deeper
3) Watch for your left knee causing wear just above the speaker on the driver side door over time
4) No lumbar support adjustment for the seats
5) The infotainment screen should be slightly angled towards the driver
6) The stock steering wheel is too thin
Well done, agree with the other commenters, very good comprehensive review. And I can confirm pretty much everything you said, I have an early 2019 soul crystal red RF. I haven’t (but want to) lowered mine yet as you say they do sit a bit tall from factory but not terrible. I have FM sway bars, LED lights, versus rear diffuser and Goodwin racing muffler, like you I wasn’t unhappy with the stock muffler, it was ok, but just ok. An after market muffler really wakes them up sound wise. I did PPF on the front but I’ve still managed to collect a few punch throughs even with it from rocks. Also daily drive mine and have done a couple longer road trips. I’ve got a plastic bin that fits in the “well” of the trunk I keep a spare jacket, first aid, flashlight, tire chains (since I daily this car even in winter - which, by the way, they handle brilliantly in the snow - ive never even opened the chains but they are required by law so I have them) and the like but I can still comfortably pack for 2 for a week long road trip or get 3 bags of groceries and a half rack of beer in the trunk. Costco runs however are still better left to the family truckster LOL. Your assessment of the transmission is spot on, it encourages quick shifts but even so I’ve managed to miss a few spirited gear changes and it really feels like a synchro problem. I do have the brembos but didn’t get the recaro seats in my club trim - kinda wish I had but I do notice some similar issues with the seat materials you’ve pointed out. I drive it like I stole it and still manage 29.5 MPG around town 6 month average. I’ve gotten as good as 43 on longer road trips. I worked at a Mazda dealership when the NA first launched and fell in love with them the minute I drove it, all these years later I had both the means and the lack of contradiction (read kids, dog, etc to haul around) to ownership and going on 3 years I still love this car every single time I look at it, drive it, mod it, and my wife loved it so much she got one for herself! So now we have a SCR (red) and a ceramic metallic 2019. In closing I am not a huge fan of the steering wheel either and have been looking at options to swap and I have to say yours looks fantastic! Next stop, looking up that wheel! Cheers
Thank you so much for watching and your reply! That's awesome to hear that you were able to work for Mazda when the first NA came out and see those in person when they were brand new, and congrats to you and your wife for both having Miatas! They have their issues like every other car, but those issues are quite minor and you can't beat their combination of fun, reliability, and affordability. Happy motoring!
Also, on my 2020 Club, the softop was replaced under warranty, I’m on my 3rd infotainment screen due to the de-lamination issues, also under warranty, and Mazda repainted the ENTIRE FRONT HALF OF THE CAR under warranty - (I have soul red 46V) - because there were, get this: 240+ rock chips - the dealer counted and they agreed to repaint it. It’s an adhesion issue for the most part from the factory in Japan.
Wow! I’m sorry to hear you’re having these issues. I’m impressed and glad to hear you were able to get the car repainted but I’m shocked you’re having trouble with your top and screen. No issues with either of mine yet, thankfully! Other than the top rubs a bit on the roll bars but I never did anything about it
I love the Mazda Miata , enjoy Sunday drives.
Great review. Such an amazing car. I'd pick one of these over everything else.
Thank you so much!
I think I would watch you review any car even if I wasn't interested in it! Awesome stuff!
Haha thank you so much! Maybe I’ll have to start doing more reviews 😁
Got here late but just in time~ Interesting and I respect your insight. Watched it all...and you have a fine fun little ride!
Great review. Very informative in both practical and enthusiast perspective. Well put together well done!
Thank you very much!
Leather shift and brake boot will upscale that console. Redline Goods has any variation of stitching and colors custom fit for MX5. My Cipher steering wheel has held up and still looks great at 120,00 miles (2016 Club).
I'm hoping my Zymexx wheel holds up like that as well! I like the shift and ebrake boot that it came with, but did have those from Redline Goods on my NA and loved them! Thinking of getting a shift knob at some point, my stock one is showing some wear sadly.
this really confirms how much I want an MX 5
I have owned Miatas since 2001. My current Miata, a 2021 RF Club BBR is my 6th and my 4th ND. I imagine it will be my last as the rumor is the next Miata will be electrified. My RF Club with the GoodWin Racing SSST exhaust is such a superb vehicle that I may never let go of her. I’m 71…so it’s time to slow down with my car purchases. 😂
Never too old to have fun! Thanks for watching the video
@@DriveMX5 …i agree! my license plate reads: SO MCH FN… I also owned several S2000s, a Mustang Mach1, a Vette, Supra and a 300ZX and for pure driving enjoyment my current RF Club wins hands down. Btw, i really enjoy your videos. Great content without the goofy “entertainment” some reviewers deem necessary! 👍
@@Dano-MX5 that’s awesome, and a great collection of cars you’ve had. Thank you so much for the kind words, they mean a lot!
Yesterday I was actually looking into the Miata and the 124 Spyder. I love those 30th anniversary wheels. Never cared for the wheels on the normal Miata or the Club sport wheels. I like the Fiat exterior a little more than the miata, but the two Mazdas I’ve owned have definitely sold me on Mazda reliability and design. Mazda is an excellent hidden gem of an automobile manufacturer. They make cars for car enthusiasts 😂
The non BBS club wheels are ok but IMO the GT chrome ish wheels are horrendous. Awful - especially with certain colors. The only OEM wheels I find looks good on all ND colors are the BBS wheels.
Absolutely EXCELLENT and comprehensive video! Thanks for that!
I wish they made the recaro seats available with other trims. It would be so nice to have the extra side bolstering
Agreed! They shouldn’t be limited to the Club trim
You can find them, but they cost more than the entire BBR kit or close to it.
Future Classic.
Finally, a car that you can actually red line it unlike the new GR86 where redlining it causes its warranty to be voided.
This is THE best auto review I have ever seen. The other truly impressive creator and producer of auto related casts is Jay Leno.
Thank you so much!
@@DriveMX5 U R very welcome!
outstanding review indeed!!! this is one of those few reviews where you can watch over n over again without getting tired of it like those select movies you can watch 100+ times and never gets old.i fully agree about the screen vs being lower with taking your eyes OFF the road and line of sight very very important piece there,again outstanding review!!!
Thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoy it and thank you again for watching!
Still got our 2016 .
Had it from new still most sensible speed fun on the market by a mile
Thank you so much for your extensive time on this.
Of course, thank you for watching!
thank you for the nice & detailed review, answered all my questions💯
On the wind noise...
The order from quietest to loudest is: RF with roof up, Softtop with roof up, Softtop with roof down, RF with roof down. This isn't widely-enough acknowledged, but the RF has pretty dramatic wind noise with the top open. Source: I have a 30AE RF, and have compared with the (softtop ND) cars of other members in my local club.
Also: if you track the car frequently and plan to add a roll-bar - you need a softtop because there is no roll-bar solution for the RF that still allows the roof to fold away.
You got that spot on. I used to sell Mazdas and noticed the same thing after driving both versions. Hopefully somebody will make a rollbar that still allows the RF roof to function. If I had an RF and fabrication skills, I would go for it.
Had a '97 and loved it. Retirement will get me my last one.
Nuf said.
Just got a 2022 miata and I’m very excited! Thank you for this i love this channel. subbed
Woohoo, congrats on your new Miata! Thank you so much for watching and subscribing!
I have 84,000+ miles on my '16 Sport. Nothing done other than replacing the stock brakes with Wilwoods from Flyin' Miata, the rear calipers were freezing up from road salt here in New Hampshire. I have a set of wheels with snow tires, the car does OK in snow even though it doesn't have a LSD. It also sees several miles of dirt roads daily, not the usual conditions for these.
Yeah, that is very unusual! Glad to hear yours has held up well so far and you are getting great use out of it!
@@DriveMX5 Basically oil changes, tires, and brakes, everything else is fine. ND2 specs would be nice but it's fine as is. LSD would be a plus.
Excellent take on the ND2. Love your 30AE. Agree that the steering wheel is a little thin and that the stock exhaust sounds just OK. I have the stock seats (ND2 Club) and it does feel that you sit on top instead of in them. The seats (+ exhaust sound) are far better on my old NA and the old car feels larger inside and has more storage space.
But, I think the ND2 is an amazing car and is does so much so well while looking like an exotic. Love it! Agree with you that it still looks fresh. We are unbelievably lucky that Mazda is keeping the faith, especially at $30k-ish. If this had a Porsche badge in the hood, it would be in the $50s.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate your comment and watching the video! And I agree with everything you said. It’s not a perfect car, but it’s still fantastic, especially in this day and age
Porsche would have way more hp.
The NC has four cupholders and nets in the doors. It is very useful for every day.
Mazda has to bring it back in the new Miata.
I recognize those East Tennessee roads. Great place to drive. I had an NB2 Miata and have been considering the ND2. Great review.
Thank you so much! These roads are largely why I moved here from Florida. I imagine you would love an ND2 if you loved your NB2
I love the Miata but one thing is like scratching on a chalkboard. I wish Mazda would delete the cheap looking and feeling infotainment screen. In its place, simply use an adjustable mount or in-dash cubby with usb-c connector for smart phones. Keep the interior clean.
They don't need to change the door cut lines, it would ruin the design proportions.
And besides, Miata parking is at the back of the lot where nobody else goes anyways. 🤣
Haha very true! I agree as well, I love the look of the door, just not how long it is lol. Some coupes have used double hinges to help with that problem, would've been cool to see that here but it's really not that big of a deal and I understand why they didn't implement that
Ngl this is probably my favorite Miata looks wise. Btw hope you’re doing well man love the channel growth. Go knights
Thank you sir, I really appreciate the feedback and warm wishes! Hope you and yours all of the best as well!
super comprehensive review! so well done. Mazda paint has always been thin and quite susceptible to chipping. great job!
Thank you so much!
I like the way you talk about the miata and how you put sooo much useful information in a relatively short video, you did an extremely good job with that, sir :) and you know a miata enthusiast when you hear one speak about it. I own a 2019 Miata myself (soft-top) and i just love it. Never had any problems with it, nothing went wrong, no malfunction, it just makes a squeaky noise when its cold and i drive slow. it has something to do with the wheels cause it's in a regular interval. I wonder where you got the trunk tray from?! It looks so much cleaner and more organized.
Thank you so much! The trunk tray is called a cargo tray, it’s from the Mazda dealership. Basically an all-weather mat for the trunk and it’s awesome! Easy to clean, looks good, keeps the carpet fresh
If you go forced induction with fbo. Mpg mix will be 25 with spirited driving. High is about 30 maybe 32.
Good video. You did a nice job of covering all the ND2's features.