Leeds United movie archive - The Unforgiven - Don Revie & Leeds United - The Truth Part 1
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- Опубліковано 21 гру 2010
- ".It is almost as if, outside of Leeds, he has been airbrushed from history...It is time for Don Revie to be reclaimed and accepted into the pantheon of managerial greats.." Foreword By Kevin Keegan
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I liked Don Revie. I saw him get on a train once at Kings Cross train station when he was England manager. We said 'hello' and he was very polite. He smiled and said 'good luck' It made my day. RIP Don.
legend. great respect between Liverpool and Leeds United
Top man Don.The envy of many.Ahead of his time,brilliant man manager.
And DIGNITY. Never said anything offensive or bad about anyone. RIP
Love the man
Ye know Leeds Utd were at one point the greatest club in England a fact that cannot be denied,but to be honest and with the greatest respect to Leeds I think the greatest team in Britain from 1967 to 1970 was undoubtedly Glasgow Celtic under the great Jock Stein.They were the first to bring back the European Cup and what makes them winning the European cup all the more remarkable is that they did it with a team that came from a 30 mile radius of Celtic Park,the only player outwith that 30 mile radius i believe was Bobby Lennox...really enjoyed this vid tho.
Brilliant upload. Love for The Don
There never be an other "KING" "DON" "REVIE"
Sid, found the other parts you uploaded, thanks so much for this. Stuart Kamasz
Leeds vintage 1970-75 played some amazing football, they were the barcelona of british football, shame that great team does not get the credit it deserves, still get the mythological 'dirty leeds' tag
the king of his era
The best 11 players moulded into a team i ever saw. Other sides had better squads but no better first 11 than the Leeds team of the late 60s- early 70s- as others have said Had Sprake been replaced probably 2-3 years before he eventually was then they probably would have won more but the side of Harvey, Madeley, Reaney, Bremner, Charlton, Hunter,Lorimer, Clarke, Jones, Giles and Gray was THE BEST TEAM in English football in the last 45 years
leeds was the best team in the world in the late 60s and early 70s
I will never forget the night as a teenager the first season in the the 1st Division after promotion with Revie we caned Liverpool at Elland Road and put 4 past them if i remember correctly.
Used to love the night games and the atmosphere on the spion kop in the sixties...
Clever beyond his years. I mean consider. He built a team, did not spend a massive fortune doing it and yet kept them together for many years while making the odd subtle changes now and then - and he kept them winning. He did not leave a stone unturned in regard to all the little team and club idiosyncrasies experienced along the way, and he kept that team happy. Now days, if a manager does not have a bag load of money to spend on a daily diet of foreign players and the like....they don't get near to winning the premier. His two biggest assets were a fertile mind that constantly thought about the game. And, a down to earth attitude that never got beyond itself, saw things for what they were - not necessarily how he wanted them to be. This is genius of a thoughtful, economic and practical nature. Don Revie.....Priceless!
great summary
Well said #MOT
its easy when you bribe the match officials
Basic psychology. When someone wins, and wins, and wins again and again - they soon attract a legion of 'open mouthed fly catchers.' The sort that always believe there is some dodge or scam hiding. It's not rocket science - he was damn good at man management and saw things clearly and simply. If it were possible to can the Revie plan, use it in modern day business - you could make millions. I think of him a lot....and i've never supported Leeds.
@@arranstott9176 Lots of managers did similar in that time period, you going to tell me that Ferguson at Man U did not cheat at all?
The man was and is a legend. Leeds were the best UK side for many years.
James Connors - not fit to lace his shoes. Perhaps James should crawl back under his stone.
I must correct you, Joe Fagan's Liverpool won a treble (league, League Cup, European Cup) in 1984.
@TONYSPURSMAN When you brush away the crap - shit and jealously that the TV-Press & Southern based media threw at Leeds and Revie in that period of time - which over the years helped feed the general football fan's consensus that we were some sort of pub team - you come back to the FOOTBALL facts of the day - Respect TONYSPURSMAN for knowing the game at that time and acknowledging it
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The man was way ahead of his time. he introduced methods that are being used today. The way he has been treated by the media is disgusting.
His team played some of the best football this country has ever seen but unfortunately, most people listen to the cockney and Manchester loving media and the crap they have spouted over the years.
That is bollocks. Most half decent real fans acknowledge how great that Leeds team were but you can't escape the dirty fouling tactics employed. Giles has come clean and admitted it....and Sprake admitted that Revie used Bremner to try and bribe results. No player would invent that!
@@tonyunwin5500 Agreed with you its all true, I would like to add that it wasn't anything new (more common the further you go back), it shouldn't take anything away from Leeds United & Don Revies achievements.
@@tonyunwin5500 lot more cheating going on in todays modern game by players and managers
Great manager in that era but doesn't come close to Clough,who would of been great in any era.With Taylor at his side of course.
Hound of Uladh "doesn't come close" hahaha absolute nonsense
Dan Ralston not even in the same picture fella.
Leeds were a better team than Forest.
Would have ffs
Clough was a decent manager not a great one. He did not leave a footballing legacy.
it may seem like that retrospectively, but over that period of time under Revie Leeds were the most successful club in the country, only shankly's Liverpool equaled Leeds in trophy winning with six. And you have to consider the records that Leeds set as well, some of which stood for decades afterwards
How many parts to this Sid, just the 2 ? thanks for the upload..
Leeds under Revie was very close too organised crime. But at that time Leeds was the best team in England and one of the best teams in Europe.
Complex man, think he was ahead of his time as a club manager in many ways and he had a lot of success with Leeds. But looking back most people outside Leeds remember "Dirty Leeds" and the way he dumped England. That is a shame.
How can you even begin to compare Revie to the great Bob Paisley?
him and shankley best pals amd similar
Paisley took over a successful team at the top Revie and Shanks built teams wo were struggling 2nd division teams for a 10 year period Leeds were the cream team
great great man, ruined by typical english media who even when we beat scotland 5 1 [ had to criticise him, not helped by injuries to bell/ francis before italy games r i p don
Bell's career was ended by Martin Buchan and Gerry Francis didn't recover properly from his bad injury. It took years for England to recover from losing those two great players!
the best managers are always the most unpopular
You mean in the UK. The rest of the Europe, Brazil and Argentina had their share of great teams also, having some of the greatest of all time.
I'm a Leeds fan, and although Revie was the Montgomery of football, he was never a Rommel. That was Brian Clough. Pity that Brian didn't have Taylor with him at Leeds.
However in English football a treble was not achieved until the modern era in 1999. Which might show you just how difficult it was to even come close in English football. This is not to take away from Scottish football, because many of Leeds best players were Scottish! and I have a great admiration for them, but to understand just how brilliant the Leeds team was at this time, you have to look at their remarkable consistency across all competitions in every season
Any more good football documentaries ?
Top 5 greatest British Managers of All-time: 1. Sir Alex Ferguson 2.Sir Matt Busby 3. Brian Clough 4.Bill Shankly / Bob Paisley 5. Jock Stein/ Alf Ramsey
Busby and Fergie were knighted for services to football....allegedly. Busby - 1 European Cup Fergie - 2 in 26 years. Paisley - 3 in less than half that time, got an OBE! How fair was that?
Never rated Harvey that much either. If Leeds had signed Shilton or Banks they'd have won a lot more.
They called it "The Battle of Britain" for a reason..been nothing since to compare - despite other games trying to live up to the hype .... two great sides Leeds & Celtic ....would have loved to have see them go head to head in those days with the likes of Liverpool & Man City Everton etc
The truth is that leeds under Don Revie in the early 70s may have won titles but they were a dirty fouling team.
They were reknowned for it at the time.
They were renowned for been a fouling dirty side. The london media mafia put that name on leeds because they played like men and roughing up there sissy players from the london teams and were jealous of leeds winning trophies.Marching on together.
The guy was bent and when Gary Sprake broke ranks to spill the beans Revie left England in the lurch and flew to take the Arab dollar.Sprake was ostracised.Leeds were a great but unloved team who were also the dirtiest team in the league.Dougan also confirmed how he tried to bribe the wolves team to throw the game at the end of the 72 season.
The Don super leeds
@TONYSPURSMAN After glasgow celtic.
Celtic did batter Leeds in the 1970 EC semi, but Leeds were jaded from chasing a treble in a season truncated due to the world cup. Jimmy Johnstone was amazing but probably the only player who could have nullified him, Paul Reaney was out injured with a broken leg. Leeds were a great side - if one could win trophies just by being 'dirty', the Wimbledon team of the late '80's would have won everything!
Celtic were chasing a quadruple mate and also fell just short! Mind you did quadruple in 1967!
He should be Knighted
and that is the real Don Revie
Amazing Liverpool have been a basically top side still , even since them days . Lol , I only found out about Don Revie n Leeds after watching ..that damned utd.. football had some great characters...WOW...the Liverpool fans in the kop sang champions to Leeds after losing the title to em...omfg...no doubt Liverpool fc got the most awesome n fair fans ever
Put a lot into this Leeds thread for a Celtic fan pal..my guess is you've a grudging respect for how good a team we were back then but are still bitter at the lack of respect your achievement in beating us merited in the wider circles..I take that as a back handled complement to the class of my team back then .whether meant or not .. See one of my earlier posts on here pal and you'll see I rated Celtic as a class side..there's been no battle of Britain contest to compare since..
I agree most teams were physical but certainly not all of them. Spurs and Man Utd were never physical teams for example, although they may have had the odd hard tackler (Stiles comes to mind). Perhaps it is not a coincidence that they were not that succesful in the 70's.
Former Leeds United goalkeeper Gary Sprake, a member of the legendary Leeds team of the 1970s, blows the whistle on bungs and tapping-up in professional football more than 30 years ago.
He says his manager, Don Revie, and captain, Billy Bremner, tried to bribe opponents.
His story is confirmed by a player from an opposing team.
Didn't Billy get a hundred grand for some Newspaper saying that?
Leeds always performed to there strengths but when clough went there no way
@steakandsid
reason he isn't hailed as greatest is because he failed miserably with English team job and later due to the controversies that sprung up in Middle East about discrepancies of finances I do agree he is one of the finest manager of 60's and early 70's but he himself brought down his legacy when he left Leeds & got involved in kinda things he should have never been part of so I have to say media should be blamed to him off from History pages but I think he is also responsible of that!
Would have loved to have seen how Celtic would have coped with the demands of a first division programme in 1970 ..had the roles been reversed R&R
Thought Celtic were a class side - one of 3 top teams in Britain of that era along with Leeds & Liverpool -Their domestic success however which took them into europe along with the likes of Ajax and European teams was easier to accomplish than that of a English First Division Team competing at the top end of the English programme - thus leaving them them far more equipped for the rigours of Europe -No Cyldes or Airdrie or Raith Rovers etc in what was and still is the hardest league in the world
Nope. In the 60's and early 70's, Brazil had the best teams. Our national team was composed by players who played in brazilian teams, not in europe. !958, 1962 and 1970 world cup were won by Brazil, as you all know
if you say so-
So by your reckoning suopermou3359, Bob Paisley is the best English manager as he won the European Cup three times! Seriously though, steakandsid posted this for people to appreciate the achievements of Revie, not to start childish 'Clough was better' arguments - and don't talk about Clough without mentioning Peter Taylor!
He was Leeds though. Nothing else. That's ok as it is!
best english football team ever[ better than liverpoo or utd, noone played football like this, but he wasn,t friends with media
Do you realise that Leeds were chasing the treble in that season? they were playing a high amount of games, with a much smaller amount of players that modern clubs have today, this was before squad rotation and it was the first time in history a club had come close to achieving a treble. Celtic were a good team, but to say they destroyed Leeds is a fantasy, in this period Leeds were consistently ranked the number 1 team in Europe according to UEFA coefficients
You simply cannot compare Leeds to Liverpool. Shankly, Paisley,Fagan, Dalgleish built team after team playing at times beautiful football. Revie built what success they had on crude, cynical, manipulative teams who constantly under achieved.
Shankly was great, as were his teams but he always admitted he'd do anything to gain an advantage, and that's what he did. He always had one or two 'yard dogs' in the side....the likes of Smith and Case could play but were filthy bastards.
I confess though that they were great to watch and you couldn't help but love Shanks'
Leeds first club to appear in all European finals Revie built a team from scratch with virtually the same playing staff week in week out or a 10 year period never finished lower than 4th set records that lasted years enough said.
Tarnished his own legacy, which in fairness would of been special with what he did for that team..... But tried to bribe players throughout the league, and Leeds fans hold him in high esteem.... How could anyone with a brain support the match fixer....??
Well he wasn't very successful, Leeds were runners up five times in the League, ever heard of innocent till proven guilty
battered? which planet do you live on?
Leeds weren't in it in 1972, but that shows the higher amount of competition that existed in the English league. To say that Leeds only "intimated opponents" shows your complete and utter ignorance on the subject.
Did so many great things at Leeds, then he spoiled it all by fixing matches, ditching the England job and fleeing the country dressed as an Arab.
Spurs, Man Utd never physical? So likes of mackey, baker etc, in the spurs side, Chalmers went off with a broken leg in 61 fa cup final. In Man Utd side, Best, Kidd, Foulkes, crerand, etc all known for it. The dirty tag on Leeds just an attempt to explain away leeds success. The fact is Leeds were more successful because they embraced modernity. Leeds played posession football, controlled games through accurate passing and patient play, not rush around like other english teams did in that era
That's bollocks about the United players you mention. They could take care of themselves....they had to in those days but Stiles was the only "yard dog". I'm a lifetime City fan so have no reason to say that if it isn't true. Check Johnny Giles comments about his old team. He admits what they were like....and they were a team full of thugs. A great and talented side, no doubt....but filthy bastards.
yes but the best england manager remains Brian Clough! don revie never won the european cup!!! brian clough won it 2 times!!! i love it! don revie must of been hating it...hahaha Brian Clough the Greatest!!
Clough didn't keep a team in the top 4 for a 10 year period the UEFA Cup was harder to win you played more matches and played the top 4 teams from each respected country bar the champions.
Who did Forest best? Malmö, a poor team, then they robbed Hamburg, also Clough got Forest relegated, I was around at this time Leeds were the better team
@ILiveOnMyBoat, from the gibberish you have written it is pretty obvious English isn't your first language, but don't talk about the achievements of Clough without mentioning Peter Taylor - .
Revie was no 'yes man' as you claim & just because Bob Paisley didn't go shooting off his mouth to the press like Clough did doesn't make him a lesser man.
Such an ignorant statement, especially as Celtic could put the boot in too - John Hughes put Gary Sprake out of the Hampden leg of the EC 1970 semi final with a brutal challenge!
Leeds: low mid-table Championship club. Nothing more.
I have watched it before, not much difference between two sides. Leeds had the better team on paper and more talented players, but Celtic had European veterans from previous campaign. Leeds of 1972 would have destroyed them
The leedscum do deserve more respect for the Revie era and the teams he built but its not going to happen.The reasons for this are 1 .Revies win at all costs attitude. 2. Dirty players. 3. The most obnoxious, boorish, arrogant fans in football.
You only have to look on other UA-cam videos comments to see why. So many so-called Leedscum fans leaving nasty comments re- Hillsborough, Ibrox, Bradford etc. I would never dream of leaving nasty messages regarding the death of Revie, Bremner or Istanbul so why is it ok for Leedscum to do similar ?
Neutral Observer. We aren't all that bad, we don't mind Bradford, Wednesday or Rangers at all, we wanted Bradford to win the FA cup we don't mind any Yorkshire team at all, u only have to watch a Yorkshire game to see that. Granted we are twats when we sing "Always look on the runway for ice" against the scum and we don't like Chelsea. but we're passionate fans, not arrogant....Every footy team makes banter, we're just a little louder than most come over to the dark side, u will like it!
Robin Banks Robin, how long have you been following The Scum ? Are you too young to remember the burger van incident @ Bradford ? Hillsborough wasnt referring to Wednesday although The Owls do despise you, it was referring to the Hillsborough Disaster. And the Rangers thing was "The battle of britain" in the European Cup in the early nineties where there was loads of trouble in Glasgow ! Do you know how you are viewed by Cardiff, Boro, Chelsea, Stoke, Millwall, Blues, Wednesday, Huddersfield, Barnsley etc ? Sounds like this may come as a shock to you but they despise you. There's a lot of history there Robin. Do you know the history Robin ? the kid that was killed @ St Andrews, The Cup final replay vs Chelsea etc, etc
None of the things you mention are the reason why Revie won't be remembered.
It's the back handed deal with the Arabs, when England manger is why the press don't like him. Sullied his name I'm afraid.
Jock Stein, if he was still with us would not appreciate your graceless and inaccurate statements about Leeds. Anyway, why come and post negative comments? There are so many videos of Celtic that you could be writing positive things about instead.
why is it I always question everything this man says? , he only made selfish decisions , as long as he was making money he would sell his mother, ie the England resignation true story
Why are so many English football "personalities" insane ? Lol
@BarryCFCOK You are so right.The were the most boring ,dirtiest footballing side i have ever seen in my whole life.Once they went 1-0 up they would kill the game.CLOUGH WAS SO SO RIGHT.CHEATS
Millz Certainly not boring.
This is where i disagree old lad..The Scottish First Division comprised of 34 league games not 42 ..and despite your claims of the English first division been close in quality to the Scottish I just don't see it..Not when you had the likes of playing Airdrieonians Raith Rovers & Sterling Albion..The English league was far more intense The team we had at Leeds United would have won 9 in row in Scotland no problem . it would have matched/ beaten everything you achieved in Scotland domestically
Shame on you
Attempted match fixing....
Lots of managers were doing the same thing at the time.
joedexys - your inappropriate grasp of the English language undermines your juvenile posts.
crook
he was a good club manager but his England time at international levels was poor he dropped players like supper Mac and Alan Hudson after playing well for him that's what stop him from been a great manager in my view
*Revie can never be classed as a great manager. His ears were too big.*
Just like your profile pic then big ears
Bloody cheat
God rest Revie's soul, but his philosophy of being successful was shameful.