Can I Swap Circuit Boards to Save Panic Restaurant?
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
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7:12
John panicking while trying to save Panic Restaurant. Very appropriate and yet very nerve-wracking to watch.
Judging by the look of that PR board i would've given it a IPA bath beforehand. Then some CRC contact cleaner or DeoxIT. Esp on the PRG/CHR chips. Since you know the PR board works, i'd clean it and try again. If it still doesn't work, then best to say the chips are toast. Swap with a new burned eeproms and see if it runs in the old board. Even if the board swap worked, the value would've still been greatly diminished. However, if you still could get it to work one way or another, then the game can still be enjoyed nonetheless! Also still have my Astyanax, it's a great game!
Ooh great John. Panic Restaurant and Astyanax. 2 of my favorites on NES ❤❤❤
Wow, didn't expect a reference to Bill Alfonso. Good job.
RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE, BABY!
*loud sports whistle*
Too bad this video couldn't end with 911 chokeslaming John.
I was an 80's kid who grew up on the NES, but there are still so many games for that system that I'm unfamiliar with. I started going to game cons this year, and I've decided to look for good NES games that I never played & can be found for cheap. Adding Astyanax to that list. :)
Whew... My heart sank when that chip bent back.
Panic Restaurant chip is MMC3C, and Astyanax chip is MMC3B. You need another board with chip MMC3C.
Before doing anything drastic make sure all of the old solder is off and then inspect the chip for defects that you can see with the naked eye. It could have a crack in it, one of the pin could be broken which is easily fixable if it is broken outside of the chip. If it is inside of the chip you are SOL. Make sure the chip is making good contact. Believe it or not having flux can make a difference if you are having connection issues. Make sure you use fresh solder and don't mix old solder. That will cause a connection issue. It seems the chip wants to work, but one of the connections seems to be off.
Ah, you beat me to the flux comment!
@@richfutrell753 I got to his video an hour after he posted it. I have a flux pen and I successfully fixed a wrestling game on the SNES.
Time to inspect the chips with a microscope
An ECW/Bill Alfonso reference was something I didn't know I'd hear today. That was awesome.
Blasphemy!! Put Astyanax on a new board and save it! 😂
Indeed! Great game! Don't let it die!!!!
He did
@@TurdFerg117 good! Hooray!
Loved astyanax as a kid, was never able to beat it till i got much older.
If the issue is the chip itself, you could always make a new one and solder it back onto the original board.
Riggs took a dark turn at 2:24 lol
I can definitely second a micro chip being way worse than Legos. I stepped on a 555 timer in the middle of the night when I was younger. All the pins went in, and I had to pull the timer out of my foot, which hurt immensely and still have a small socket scar. lol
So southern Illinois didn’t have blockbusters until the mid 90s. The rumor always was it was some type of Illinois tax situation but Chicago was a big enough market where blockbuster just dealt with it? I even have a funny story about the blockbuster championship series & competing in it in Kentucky while being an Illinois resident.
But my local rental place was named crossroads video, as it was at the one stoplight in Vienna, Illinois, the county seat where I’m from in southern Illinois.
It was always neat going there because the video games were on the top level so you had to go up the stairs to get to the video games. They used a tag system similar to Toys “R” Us were the actual box was on the shelf and there was a little key ring tab underneath it if it was available for rent or not.
My dad grew up in Vienna. I remember that one stop light back the day visiting my grandparents. Great memories.
You can sand the top of the chip down if the leg is 100% gone. You sand only over the edge with the pin, carefully, and you can expose the wire and solder to that
This is legit more nerve racking than any ER operation.
Sad to see John trying to revive the Panic Restaurant cartridge. It seems to me that those microcircuits, alas, with age managed to become unusable and thereby degraded :/
In any case, thanks for the video. About how her process of trying to revive an already expensive copy went NES
It was not aging, cartridge appears to have water damage
Loved Crazy Mike's video in Yakima. My good friend worked there for many years in the 90s.
Are you coming to Sacramento gaming expo in December again?
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You could get some eeprom chips, flash them with Panic Restaurant, and solder them back to the board. Good as new!
The only fix now is a modern chip with the CHR data flashed to it. I'd put the original back in there perhaps as it should be, and like older school translations (etc) went, mount the new chip with the chr data, run wires to bypass the bad chip. That way the original PR game is in place, and the fixed bypass is too. Sure it's not worth anything like a working one is, but has some given the totality of the parts.
Crazy Mike's might be before my time. I always remember Hollywood Video growing up in Portland, though.
You got the digits for any of those 32 big gulp ladies in your town? Willing to travel 😆
Love the open cart surgery and retro game talk, but that Bill Alfonso reference made me double like the vid! ECW! NES!
The Bill Alphonso reference 🤦♂️, well at least you don’t have a whistle.
Have you ever thought about making a few donor spare cards up using a piggy back mount holder on them? Then simply unsolder the chip for the non working card and clip it onto the piggy back holder. Might save the hassle of re soldering a dud chip in the future.
personally i would have sacrificed a terminator instead of astyanax
That desoldering gun sounds like Harpo Marx ordering hard-boiled eggs.
Another great video John, have you ever board swapped a snes game ??
You could say "I've seen cleaner teeth on a woman drinking a big gulp thats been stood on a corner so long she's on google earth"
Old crusty games are the main reason for me purchasing an Everdrive N8 Pro...🙂
I love Astyanax as well... But I could never beat it 😂. I should try one of these days....
Was there a a washer or dryer running when this wwas recorded? 🤣🤣
I think there are probably some midichlorians that got into the flux capacitor.
At this point - let's just say that you may need an electronics engineering degree to repair a nonfunctional CHR rom chip. The chip packaging is going to be a major obstacle to repair if any of the connections to the pads on the chip itself are severed and suggesting that you 'bake it at 475 degrees for 30 minutes in your oven, and maybe it works' is not generally advisable for valuable things that you don't own.
I like the suggestion of rewriting an EPROM chip with the original CHR data, but using a mask rom adapter board to attach it to the original CHR rom chip so that physically the original game is intact and present, but the new EPROM gets read instead of the broken CHR rom. It's the least intrusive fix with the highest chance of success. The adapter boards are also pretty cheap at only a few bucks.
Great video!
Good job switching boards though!
WoW that's nuts Astyanax works either way
Muck love, come here for the Dad vibes !
My childhood copy of Mike Tyson's Punch Out stopped working a couple of years ago. I've tried every trick in the book to get it to work again. For the most part all I get is different color blank screens. But if I keep hitting reset it will eventually show scrambled data on the screen. But the game will not boot. I would pay you if you could fix it.
I dunno, if I go to the trouble of removing a chip like that I'm just putting a socket in it.
Maybe. Dump the contents of each chip and check next to a working rom? I did that to get a valuable genesis game one time
Thanks John, now ASTYANAX is gonna be a $30 game by then end of the month. LOL!!!!!! jk.
You did good lol had fun Riggs ✌️
Can you write a new CHR rom?
I wounder if he is willing to take on this. I wound love mail him an my copy of Pac Man 2, make it look as good as new; and then flash final fight arcade remix to the cart and make my snes Killer Instinct cart as good as new. They have been siting un used for yaers so I'm not 100% sure it they sill work. It will be sometime before I mail them in. The Killer Instinct cart is why I wundored if he ever an game where he had to do is put the borad in an new case.
For the love of all thats holy - do NOT chuck any of the working parts! Many carts have corroded rom to the point that they need to be switched out. Just put it in a box and label it! PLEASE! lol
EDIT: rom not ram :]
Uh no... There is no RAM in an NES cart. It's all ROM. ROM chips don't usually go bad unless touched by Static Electricity or the little window on top is exposed to light. Also if the board somehow got spilled on it would eat traces on the board which can be patched with wires. If a pin on a EPROM breaks it can have soilder applied to fix it. EPROM's I repeat don't rot or disinegrate. 😂 I'm a technician I know for a fact...
@@danerd8978 The point is that they dont really make these parts anymore so why would you ever throw them away if they are working or undamaged?
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Is that because you swapped both chips?
It’s to bad you spent the equivalent of panic restaurant on a plane ticket to get a 5 dollar copy of astynax. Lol
U should just came here in tri-cities and i would gave u the game and other one for your open cart series
Oh darn. 🤦
im guessing not enjoying jack in the box or red lobster
It was odd.
RIP ASTYANAX ;_;
Eh, it's all good. Astyanax is a better game than Panic Restaurant anyways, regardless of its ridiculous value.
Solution: Emulator
That's a solution if you just want to play the game. This is about making the cartridge work :D.
Since it's likely the CHR ROM at this point, the only way to "fix" it is to get a new CHR ROM.
Solution: Preserve original & make a repro to use.
Hey, aren't you a Nintendo UA-camr?
This video came up in my feed... another OCS video.. stopped watching months ago cause every OCS video is always a fail... watched this... another fail... i'll check back in around xmas... lol
2nd time I have seen you butcher Astyanax . It is my favorite game so I gotta stop watching. I love your other videos but can not watch it be sacrificed again lol
No not astyanax !
Must be a bad chip unfortunately.
I agree that Blockbuster was overrated and overpriced.
Whoever owned that cart are you nuts! One of the most rarer games and you ruin it shame on you!