One little tip if you're going to use one of these MR cars in a non-BoP race is to set the LSD braking sensitivity to 60 (max). Combined with setting the brake bias to the front, this will greatly help to control the car and avoid snap oversteer on heavy braking situations and makes trail braking much easier. Also, the heavier rear of these MR cars gives them superior traction control, and using TCS 0 is much more manageable on them when compared to a FR car, making them the potentially fastest Gr.3 cars despite being tricky to drive.
High value in GT means differential works more, meaning the wheels turn at different values, which in rear means more understeer. R8 requires pretty high braking LSD value to stop it from lift off oversteer.
A lot of the MR cars can be a challenge to drive even for more experienced racers. Although I find the RCZ to be pretty stable and easy to handle for the most part.
True that, the RCZ is much more planted and less torquey than most the others, and can really be abused. Just have to ward off understeer. I do love the finicky handling of most MR cars though, the rotation can definitely be exploited.
Lately I’ve been having a lot of fun with the Gr.3 Huracan, and even getting really good lap times. I can keep up with the pack and even overtake in Sport mode now.
Turn down the differential to 5-8-8, and put a little ballast in the front to control the snap steering. This will take some trial and error experimenting to find the setup you like.
They could be tamed with tunes, but Unleashed is talking about the BOP-ed situations and some people may just buy an MR Gr.3 machine and put it on the track right away thinking that it would be similar to the FR Gr.3s, however the lift oversteer and throttle control is totally different, even if you've loosen the diffs they're still need to be driven with respect.
you know what's funny? I made some of my best times with Renault RS01. The only I don't like is that it doesn't have the top end speed. I feel that it's very stable in the turns and I love the center of gravity where the mid engine location. I struggle with front engine cars as I tend to have to be careful with the throttle because they blow the back end. Then again my favorites are the Honda Civic type R and Integra with the front wheel drive. I'm weird I guess lol.
Actually for the R8 you need to carry more speed up to your braking point and allow the forward momentum to take you around the corner then just at the apex apply the throttle
That dip on mountpanorama gets me everytime in that dam audi its horrendous. You really have to nurse the hell out of it but in doing so everyone just pulls away haha
Put weight position on unstable cars like the R8 or Gt by Citroen to the front then they are very stable. Beside that if you want a stable MR car in BoP races there are 3 stable ones in my opinion Ford GT LM Race Car 2018 Peugeot RCZ Alfa Romeo 4C
One way to control this is to use both braking and throttle at the same time while turning/slowing down, it stabilizes the car a lot and allows to get on the power sooner
The 911 isn't a MR car, the engine sits on the rear axle. It's quite stable with a controller for a casual driver like myself. I had no trouble doing the 1 hour Spa race with the F1 GTR either, except for grinding14 million credits.😢
Losing the rear in tight turns with MR cars lower the de-acceleration/braking diff, open it up also raise the ride height to keep it away from the bump stops
@@unleasheddrivers1281 BoP in GT7 is a joke, physics are phenomenal, but no damage model + tuneless BoP make this game look like a joke to me now. I ain't touching online until tunes are allowed. R8 is mostly fixed by subtle suspension and LSD changes and it is amazing to drive afterwards.
Ford GT Race Car: TBH it’s not that bad, the Daytona tri-oval gives you a preview, but if you’re someone that likes overstee then this is the car for you. P.S it really doesn’t snap that much
the MR cars when we do heavy brake and trail brake to the corner it will lose rear traction so understeer, when i drive the Ford GT race i found some tips can more stable in the corner, and it just nerver lose the throttle when you into corner or you are turning ,even though just a little bit throttle it can give the rear traction
Toyota FT1 drives like an absolute DREAM. Much more planted than its GTS counterpart, barely any turbo lag. And it looks menacing to add Edit: while the R8 and Huracan are literally actually undrivable I do think the GTLM version of the ford GT is way more drivable if you keep a constant input of brake-throttle going with minimal lifting and it also has a fuckton of traction which is really nice to just plant the throttle down. I also noticed that the mid engine snap is less pronounced on this car after doing the RB Ring human comedy race with it. I also felt like the Race Spec (white) Ford GT is pretty undrivable, but it has a lot LOT more potential when tuned to understeer unlike most of these MR cars. Another sidenote being that in banked corners you really have to make sure all of your tyres make contact with the surface otherwise you’ll spin. I don’t know if that behaviour is something that happens in real life since I am not a racing driver myself. You can notice this when you are driving a race at High Speed ring and come around to T2 and the final corner.
I tried the Aston Martin Gr 3&4. I think I have new arrows in my quiver now. Very respectful handling and the fuel economy is definitely up there. Thanks for the tips!
@@ramia4920 the group 3 & 4 race cars. Daily races use both classes, and both cars are similar. The group 3 has way more downforce available in general.
MR cars in GT7 are very bad versus GTS. I found the MR cars are better run in a higher gear. Engine braking makes them very unstable. The R8EVO is so bad. A real shame.
@@JonasSaleen Thank you so much Lotus, is this for the Aston Martin? I will let you know how I do friend thanks again. Do you have any other for Gr.4 car ? I would Greatly appreciate it please.
I don’t like FR cars. I’m newer(2 months)so still figuring out the game. I add 2 to 5 brake bias to the rear depending on car. I’ve used some FR but so much harder for me
Well I've never seen it happen in such a snappy fashion before so that's why I refer to it here in GT7. It's a sudden snap of oversteer/loss of control in slow and tight hairpins when inputting a lot of steering lock. In the GR.3 category, only mid-engine cars have this behaviour and I've only seen such snappy behavior like this in GT7
i like the toyota vgt but to make stop snaping it ass i watch gt7 tuning guide and end up dopping the cars ass as well wadding the angle and for someone like me that use D,pad steering o, to me it is D,pad steering or steering wheel as these are the more stable options the analog sacks thank you
I don't have too much trouble with MR drivetrain veichles because I'm experienced. I typically use the peugeot rcz and I like the way it handles and its stability
hey bud, whats the best gr3 car to buy 1st. I currently have the Honda civic. NOT THE YELLOW 1. I BOUGHT A NISSAB 300ZX, SO I MIGHT BE ABLE TO UPGRADE IT A LITTLE MORE. RIGHT NOW I COME ON 3RD-4TH. I JUST STARTED I AM DOING THE JAPAN 5 LAP RACE. most cars are RX-7S, BMW'S, SKYLINES. I only have about 200GRAND.
That snap thing in Middle Engine Cars, is that realistic or is it a Gran Turismo thing ? I never driven a car like that so I can not compare if it's real or not.
I'd have to say it's rather unrealistic. This behavior doesnt occur in these cars on any other simulator game, certainly not as it does on GT7. The feel of it just doesnt make a whole lot of sense. It can be tuned out mostly in the setup but in BOP races, it's always an issue
Omg..that car on Deep Forest circuit experience is damn near undrivable. If you can't tune it..there's no point in using it. I'm on controller..but i've never struggled with any car to that extent.
Dude in video just cant drive at all, just like all these other Euro gamers who think they are experts. Most popular car in history isnt even in this game
Audi R8: The car where the rear likes to race the front to the finish line.
That was a terrible reward for all super license bronze medals
I found the 911 to do that even more
💀😂 That's hilarious.
@@dinonuggies2276 911 is the easiest Gr.3 car in the game lol
Serious haha its the first gr.3 I got because I won it the other day in an award thing
One little tip if you're going to use one of these MR cars in a non-BoP race is to set the LSD braking sensitivity to 60 (max). Combined with setting the brake bias to the front, this will greatly help to control the car and avoid snap oversteer on heavy braking situations and makes trail braking much easier.
Also, the heavier rear of these MR cars gives them superior traction control, and using TCS 0 is much more manageable on them when compared to a FR car, making them the potentially fastest Gr.3 cars despite being tricky to drive.
Setting the lsd settings to max emulates having a locked/welded differential which works well for drifting
High value in GT means differential works more, meaning the wheels turn at different values, which in rear means more understeer.
R8 requires pretty high braking LSD value to stop it from lift off oversteer.
A lot of the MR cars can be a challenge to drive even for more experienced racers. Although I find the RCZ to be pretty stable and easy to handle for the most part.
True that, the RCZ is much more planted and less torquey than most the others, and can really be abused. Just have to ward off understeer.
I do love the finicky handling of most MR cars though, the rotation can definitely be exploited.
Porsche and McLaren are also manageable. Ferrari and NSX are worse. Every other MR is death for me
Lately I’ve been having a lot of fun with the Gr.3 Huracan, and even getting really good lap times.
I can keep up with the pack and even overtake in Sport mode now.
Even the AI can't drive the R8. I find it to spin out a lot during my Sardegna runs
The R8 is amazing when you tune it well. GT7 default tune is absolutely abysmal.
Don't rely on it, learn to tune it ain't rocket science.
the problem is with sport mode races with BoP and no tuning
@@Ihelpanytime yep
True, but it's a car that has too fit your driving style which is smooth and gentle.
Turn down the differential to 5-8-8, and put a little ballast in the front to control the snap steering. This will take some trial and error experimenting to find the setup you like.
Yes but unfortunately with BOP setups you can't change anything. Outside of that, the cars can me made more drivable like you say
They could be tamed with tunes, but Unleashed is talking about the BOP-ed situations and some people may just buy an MR Gr.3 machine and put it on the track right away thinking that it would be similar to the FR Gr.3s, however the lift oversteer and throttle control is totally different, even if you've loosen the diffs they're still need to be driven with respect.
@@vinching926 He reminded me of the purpose for tge vid. You are correct.
you know what's funny? I made some of my best times with Renault RS01. The only I don't like is that it doesn't have the top end speed. I feel that it's very stable in the turns and I love the center of gravity where the mid engine location. I struggle with front engine cars as I tend to have to be careful with the throttle because they blow the back end. Then again my favorites are the Honda Civic type R and Integra with the front wheel drive. I'm weird I guess lol.
Actually for the R8 you need to carry more speed up to your braking point and allow the forward momentum to take you around the corner then just at the apex apply the throttle
I really really love the r8 lms evo its just such a fast car and it steers just right so that i can push it to the max
That dip on mountpanorama gets me everytime in that dam audi its horrendous. You really have to nurse the hell out of it but in doing so everyone just pulls away haha
Put weight position on unstable cars like the R8 or Gt by Citroen to the front then they are very stable. Beside that if you want a stable MR car in BoP races there are 3 stable ones in my opinion
Ford GT LM Race Car 2018
Peugeot RCZ
Alfa Romeo 4C
Oops forgot the mclaren 650...
I adjusted the differential now I love the R8. But that lift off oversteer is definitely a pain
One way to control this is to use both braking and throttle at the same time while turning/slowing down, it stabilizes the car a lot and allows to get on the power sooner
The Mclaren 650 and porsche 911 rsr are MR cars that are not too bad to drive
The 911 rsr is my go to for bop races
The 911 isn't a MR car, the engine sits on the rear axle. It's quite stable with a controller for a casual driver like myself. I had no trouble doing the 1 hour Spa race with the F1 GTR either, except for grinding14 million credits.😢
Losing the rear in tight turns with MR cars lower the de-acceleration/braking diff, open it up also raise the ride height to keep it away from the bump stops
But you can't do it with BOP races. I think the BOP sets should be a little more beginner friendly
@@unleasheddrivers1281 BoP in GT7 is a joke, physics are phenomenal, but no damage model + tuneless BoP make this game look like a joke to me now. I ain't touching online until tunes are allowed.
R8 is mostly fixed by subtle suspension and LSD changes and it is amazing to drive afterwards.
Nice one Brandon for looking out for the new drivers. 👌
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Thanks for the support mate!
to be fair li like the Peugeot RCZ it is my go to on extremally technical tracks i guess it is the way i drive.
Ford GT Race Car: TBH it’s not that bad, the Daytona tri-oval gives you a preview, but if you’re someone that likes overstee then this is the car for you. P.S it really doesn’t snap that much
I love the 4C GR3 but man it hates any bumps. Came first with it in one of the hardest chilli races, it can definitely be a handful to drive.
the MR cars when we do heavy brake and trail brake to the corner it will lose rear traction so understeer, when i drive the Ford GT race i found some tips can more stable in the corner, and it just nerver lose the throttle when you into corner or you are turning ,even though just a little bit throttle it can give the rear traction
I love the Lamborghini, particularly around Atlanta. You can just slide it to no end.
If PD let us tune the diff in BoP a lot of these stability issues would not be a thing
Oh yes I knew the R8 would be here
totally disaster, can spin in some wide curves where most others cars can pass with full throttle
Thank you for doing this, I just now got to the game and don’t want to waste my money on some thing I would hate. ✌🏽
Toyota FT1 drives like an absolute DREAM. Much more planted than its GTS counterpart, barely any turbo lag. And it looks menacing to add
Edit: while the R8 and Huracan are literally actually undrivable I do think the GTLM version of the ford GT is way more drivable if you keep a constant input of brake-throttle going with minimal lifting and it also has a fuckton of traction which is really nice to just plant the throttle down. I also noticed that the mid engine snap is less pronounced on this car after doing the RB Ring human comedy race with it.
I also felt like the Race Spec (white) Ford GT is pretty undrivable, but it has a lot LOT more potential when tuned to understeer unlike most of these MR cars.
Another sidenote being that in banked corners you really have to make sure all of your tyres make contact with the surface otherwise you’ll spin. I don’t know if that behaviour is something that happens in real life since I am not a racing driver myself. You can notice this when you are driving a race at High Speed ring and come around to T2 and the final corner.
I tried the Aston Martin Gr 3&4. I think I have new arrows in my quiver now. Very respectful handling and the fuel economy is definitely up there. Thanks for the tips!
wich Aston Martin
@@ramia4920 the group 3 & 4 race cars. Daily races use both classes, and both cars are similar. The group 3 has way more downforce available in general.
@@UncleRayRayGarageEmporium but there is multiples Aston Martin gr3 so wich one
@@ramia4920 V8 Vantage gr4, and DBR9 GT1
@@UncleRayRayGarageEmporium Thank you mate, hope you are right about this cars (because they're pretty expensive 😅)
Imma be honest the renault rs01 was the car i got for the gt world Championship and also the first and only gr3 car i use
MR cars in GT7 are very bad versus GTS. I found the MR cars are better run in a higher gear. Engine braking makes them very unstable. The R8EVO is so bad. A real shame.
yeah I recognized that some cars are difficult. Now I know why. Thanks a lot.
The best car in Gr. 3 is the Aston Martin for 800k.
Hello Lotus, do mind sharing your settings for the Aston Martin please I'm having difficulty with the GT3 races please ?
@@lee4realz hello. yes for PP730 races. Hard Tires. Front 426 Rear 650, Acceleration sens 40, Braking sens 28, Ballast 7 -20, Output adjustment 91, Top speed 270, Manual adjustment 2.825, 2036, 1.575, 1.276, 1.082, 0.961
@@lee4realz this is the first one two.
@@JonasSaleen Thank you so much Lotus, is this for the Aston Martin? I will let you know how I do friend thanks again. Do you have any other for Gr.4 car ? I would Greatly appreciate it please.
@@lee4realz yes for Gr. 3 Aston Martin DB9 800k for Gr. 4 the legendary Alpa Romeo
I don’t like FR cars. I’m newer(2 months)so still figuring out the game. I add 2 to 5 brake bias to the rear depending on car.
I’ve used some FR but so much harder for me
Excellent content.
Citroen Gr3 , Suzuka, I run out of talent at the first braking zone....i need a Viper or AMG next series.
What about the SRT Viper gt3.r I fully tune the car but for some reason breaking long goes stright Car tends to spin
"Mid engine snap" is such a strange phrase. Never heard it used before... Mid corner oversteer might be what you mean?
Well I've never seen it happen in such a snappy fashion before so that's why I refer to it here in GT7. It's a sudden snap of oversteer/loss of control in slow and tight hairpins when inputting a lot of steering lock. In the GR.3 category, only mid-engine cars have this behaviour and I've only seen such snappy behavior like this in GT7
i like the toyota vgt but to make stop snaping it ass i watch gt7 tuning guide and end up dopping the cars ass as well wadding the angle
and for someone like me that use D,pad steering
o, to me it is D,pad steering or steering wheel as these are the more stable options the analog sacks
thank you
one of the porsche gr3 cars is a dream to drive even though it is a MR, also does pretty well on gas.
My favorite gt3 car is Porsche, not too hard to drive and not so " boring" as FR cars 😁
My fav is the C7 Vette. Love its handling, very car-ish.
The Mclaren F1 GTR was among my Favorites in GT Sport or was it GT 6.
Best handling car is the mazda stealth model and the lexus
The gt4 ford gtlm race car is pretty nice..and a classic
So which ones are recommended?
The audi I thought was a better beginner car 😂 I been useing it since the start , I found it the easiest 😅
I don't have too much trouble with MR drivetrain veichles because I'm experienced. I typically use the peugeot rcz and I like the way it handles and its stability
hey bud, whats the best gr3 car to buy 1st. I currently have the Honda civic. NOT THE YELLOW 1. I BOUGHT A NISSAB 300ZX, SO I MIGHT BE ABLE TO UPGRADE IT A LITTLE MORE. RIGHT NOW I COME ON 3RD-4TH. I JUST STARTED I AM DOING THE JAPAN 5 LAP RACE. most cars are RX-7S, BMW'S, SKYLINES. I only have about 200GRAND.
I love the Lamborghini it suits my driving style and get my best times using it
People need to finish the menu book and they’ll know what you’re talking about
That snap thing in Middle Engine Cars, is that realistic or is it a Gran Turismo thing ?
I never driven a car like that so I can not compare if it's real or not.
I'd have to say it's rather unrealistic. This behavior doesnt occur in these cars on any other simulator game, certainly not as it does on GT7. The feel of it just doesnt make a whole lot of sense. It can be tuned out mostly in the setup but in BOP races, it's always an issue
The most weight is in the back.
It's actually pure logic.
One GT3 car I can't stand is the RX Vision. I mean, aero is a thing wtf, that car's behaviour makes no sense at all.
Its bop is very understeery imo
Can’t you just add ballast to the front to make it more stable
Casual use yes but BoP no
Gr4 Ferrari is so stable also the nsx
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searching cars for the GT cup at Suzuka circuit, can someone suggest some good ones?
Omg..that car on Deep Forest circuit experience is damn near undrivable. If you can't tune it..there's no point in using it.
I'm on controller..but i've never struggled with any car to that extent.
Nothing like the Porsche , far out the best
Can’t these cars be tamed a bit in the settings? Ballast, lsd etc?
Not online. Cant tune online
@@swagnuts4373 ahh i see!! Gutted
Hello friends I'm looking for help tuning up a GT3 car so I can finally win the GT3 races please ?
oh yeah that audi, it hates me.
Really nice guide . Great work
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All Mr cars handle like crap. Can they be tuned to drive like fr cars?
just run a 911 or ferrari
cara suas dicas são otimas pena que nao falo sua lingua
tunning...
Bro has too many skill issues
Dude in video just cant drive at all, just like all these other Euro gamers who think they are experts. Most popular car in history isnt even in this game
What even? What is a Euro gamer? What car are you talking about?
I usually make mr cars weight transfer 50-50 and it fixes most problems.
AWD needs to be back for GT Racing