A day out at Ash 4x4 training centre on the Hawkstone Estate, putting a Pinzgauer 718 from Shropshire Gunbus and a 1972 Land Rover Series III 88" through their paces.
I've owned a number of series Landies and it's always great to see them out in the rough stuff doing their thing. Looks like you were giving it hell and having a great time doing it. Were you running lockers at all? That 6x6 Pinz is a thing of beauty! Would love to find one on my side of the pond. You see the 712M soft-top versions, but the solid radio-body ones are a bit rare (and a 718 diesel is pretty much a unicorn). They're an amazing piece of engineering and are damn near unstoppable off road. Congrats on what must have been a really fun day. Thanks for posting!!
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I've had a fair few 4x4s over the years but the series 3 wasn't that great off road. Best vehicle I had was a daihatsu sport trac. That thing went absolutely anywhere
Massively. the Pinz 718 is about the most capably off roader on the planet. Poor technique. Lower the pressures to 18psi and it would walk up those hills.
the series 10/10 the pinzgauer 3/10 most off road courses I use wouldn't allow that vehicle on site due to the size I am very impressed with them but that seems to be just tearing the ground up or is it just me
Lol just saying the axle load on the pinz is the same as on a 4x4 maybe even lower its 2.7 tons on 6 weels and 5 meters long your comment does nor make to mutch sense ;)
Peter Clarke Had the chance once to drive a brand new with 1200 miles on the clock. Such an amazing machine, i just couldn't believe how smooth the ride was.
Yes. Has for each axle separately. I have a 4x4. I have a lot of experience. As I saw the on video were not used.Much easier to be passed with included rear door locks. In these conditions, the last should be constantly involved.
the Pinz driver is horrible. Always stops right in the middle of obstacles.... why ? To afraid to drive ? jiz man... pedal to the metal and let it ride, dude
+titanicjb Oh I do apologise, thank you for the criticism. Maybe once you have had a go at making videos and uploaded them to youtube, you can qualify to tell me more about not-for-profit video making purely uploaded for people's pleasure...
If these idiots aired down their tires, they would have screwed the forest up less and made it through the obstacles without brining their rubber. Total Tools.
Peter Clarke I don't know the pressure, but you can see that they are deforming very little, so its not enough. They look like they are aired down some, maybe enough to absorb some of the bumps for comfort, but certainly not enough for traction. There are many scenes where a small obstruction is run over and the vehicle bounces up and looses traction. Properly deflating the tires would have allowed them to deform, create traction and assist in forward movement and not tear of the path for the next guy. If you want education, look up how to deflate your tires for off roading on google.
Qwiv Well thank you for your well researched and informative reply. However I will point out that calling us "idiots", and "total tools" is not appreciated what-so-ever. We are fully aware about tyre deflation, usually I run my own tyres on the Series III at 16psi when being used off road. The Pinzgauer is fitted with run-flat wheels allowing it to run on zero air pressure if required. However, reasons for not doing this was that this was an impromptu visit to a designated off road site, thus damage caused to the said environment is not as greater issue as it is when in more sensitive areas. Also neither of us were carrying a compressor to reinflate our tyres afterwards because we had plenty of road miles to cover. Especially the Pinzgauer where raising the pressures back up for road usage would take a long time without a proper air compressor. Basically, it was a bit of fun so we were not taking things to the extent where getting stuck or failing a climb was a serious issue for not getting to a destination, as alternative routes were aplenty.
Maybe they didn´t have a compressor.....and just let my tell you: I have once pumped up all 6 tyres of a pinzgauer by hand after letting out about 1,5 bar and it had smaller tyres on than this one and that is something you don´t want to do if you don´t totally have to.....i think it took me over an hour
The Pinzgauer is looking so awesome!
Portal axles and lockers all round will give the Pinz the edge, but the Landy driver is skillful enough to keep up as far as possible. Great video!
good to some older metal still out having fun. great vid keep them coming
Loved watching the old Rover out there getting dirty. They still got it.
Thanks, they sure do. Mine for one has been out getting dirty as recently as this weekend, watch out for a new video coming soon :)
I've owned a number of series Landies and it's always great to see them out in the rough stuff doing their thing. Looks like you were giving it hell and having a great time doing it. Were you running lockers at all? That 6x6 Pinz is a thing of beauty! Would love to find one on my side of the pond. You see the 712M soft-top versions, but the solid radio-body ones are a bit rare (and a 718 diesel is pretty much a unicorn). They're an amazing piece of engineering and are damn near unstoppable off road. Congrats on what must have been a really fun day. Thanks for posting!!
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Wowww pinz muy favorite
For a fair comparison the LR should have been fitted with some form of locking diff at least in the rear
Never understood why Defenders didn’t come with locking diffs from the factory
I've had a fair few 4x4s over the years but the series 3 wasn't that great off road. Best vehicle I had was a daihatsu sport trac. That thing went absolutely anywhere
This is so cool.
Only with 4 wheels, the Defender rocks!
....*PRETTY COOL!!!!!*
Is this a P93 with 6 cylinder or 5cylinder TDI?
Pinz is a great tool but you could buy 5 landy's for the price of the transmission.
what is the tire pressure of the pinz ?
At 4:50 *is that the TURTLES??? Sounds like it to me!*
do lower tire pressure help any of those situations?
Massively.
the Pinz 718 is about the most capably off roader on the planet. Poor technique. Lower the pressures to 18psi and it would walk up those hills.
I'm surprised we did not see the "land roll over" on its roof as they often end up when driven off road.
Top KEK!
the series 10/10 the pinzgauer 3/10 most off road courses I use wouldn't allow that vehicle on site due to the size I am very impressed with them but that seems to be just tearing the ground up or is it just me
Lol just saying the axle load on the pinz is the same as on a 4x4 maybe even lower its 2.7 tons on 6 weels and 5 meters long your comment does nor make to mutch sense ;)
Can you engage the diff locks while moving on the pinzgauer?
Yup
Peter Clarke Had the chance once to drive a brand new with 1200 miles on the clock. Such an amazing machine, i just couldn't believe how smooth the ride was.
Yes. Has for each axle separately.
I have a 4x4. I have a lot of experience.
As I saw the on video were not used.Much easier to be passed with included rear door locks.
In these conditions, the last should be constantly involved.
Fully independant suspension rather than solid axles gives the Pinz a smooth ride.
...*Time for some NEW BRAKES at **0:54**. New paint would be preferable...think OD. That's OLIVE DRAB for the civilians out there.*
the Pinz driver is horrible. Always stops right in the middle of obstacles.... why ? To afraid to drive ? jiz man... pedal to the metal and let it ride, dude
hes afraid to damage it...parts for these are scarce...you break something on these you are not finding a replacement
When you hear Dude in the Comments you know it’s a kid with no known knowledge of much of anything.
Lovely s3 in its natural habitat...the other is like a land whale ..good though.where is this please ..
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PLEASE! NO MUSIC, especially vocal music! It RUINS the whole mood.
This shaking camera is terrible!
+titanicjb Oh I do apologise, thank you for the criticism. Maybe once you have had a go at making videos and uploaded them to youtube, you can qualify to tell me more about not-for-profit video making purely uploaded for people's pleasure...
poor technique off road.
Landrover are no offroad vehicles, they are for gravel roads but not for mudding.
Hahahahaha. What do you know about off road vehicles?
tret times: big LOOL!
Ruben Kelevra - Land Rover were the best off roader for a long time. There are few better but the Pinz is one of them.
какое то детское бездорожье :(
Sorry, I don't understand what you said.
Что ответили, переводил?)
If these idiots aired down their tires, they would have screwed the forest up less and made it through the obstacles without brining their rubber. Total Tools.
And exactly how do you know what pressures the tyres were being run at? Thanks for the very polite, informative comment.
Peter Clarke I don't know the pressure, but you can see that they are deforming very little, so its not enough. They look like they are aired down some, maybe enough to absorb some of the bumps for comfort, but certainly not enough for traction. There are many scenes where a small obstruction is run over and the vehicle bounces up and looses traction. Properly deflating the tires would have allowed them to deform, create traction and assist in forward movement and not tear of the path for the next guy.
If you want education, look up how to deflate your tires for off roading on google.
Qwiv Well thank you for your well researched and informative reply. However I will point out that calling us "idiots", and "total tools" is not appreciated what-so-ever. We are fully aware about tyre deflation, usually I run my own tyres on the Series III at 16psi when being used off road. The Pinzgauer is fitted with run-flat wheels allowing it to run on zero air pressure if required. However, reasons for not doing this was that this was an impromptu visit to a designated off road site, thus damage caused to the said environment is not as greater issue as it is when in more sensitive areas. Also neither of us were carrying a compressor to reinflate our tyres afterwards because we had plenty of road miles to cover. Especially the Pinzgauer where raising the pressures back up for road usage would take a long time without a proper air compressor. Basically, it was a bit of fun so we were not taking things to the extent where getting stuck or failing a climb was a serious issue for not getting to a destination, as alternative routes were aplenty.
Qwiv Loucura, loucura,¨6x6 sobe ate em arvore.
Maybe they didn´t have a compressor.....and just let my tell you: I have once pumped up all 6 tyres of a pinzgauer by hand after letting out about 1,5 bar and it had smaller tyres on than this one and that is something you don´t want to do if you don´t totally have to.....i think it took me over an hour
Poor driving poorly prepared vehicles