looking back, moe was one of the more sympathetic characters. he was (ironically) the most mature one in the entire circus and actually tried to help regina see the truth about what happened.
Well he wasn't actually goofy, he was just trying to hide the fact that he was depressed. But not only did he act appropriately towards the teenager, he practices falling 100 times a day
Ya know, the most interesting part about this case is not the lack of emotions the characters display or the bad physics but the explanation Von Karma came up with for how Max was able to fly outside the tent we never got to hear
Wright: Well Von Karma? Franziska: *Whips Wright* Listen it's not my job to prove how the foolish fool Magician could have gotten away after committing the murder, it's your job to prove how he couldn't have committed the murder at all and who actually did it, Mister Phoenix Wright! *Whips Wright again* *The people in the gallery are start muttering, disagreeing with her.* Wright: *Smirks despite the pain he is in* Well maybe we should ask the Judge what he thinks. Judge: Well I don't really- *Eyes widen as he sees Maya pull out a Turkey Sandwich* Nevermind, Not Guilty. Franziska: *Whips Wright again angrily* What the hell, old man!? *Whips Wright once more* Judge: *Shrugs enjoying the sandwich* He had a turkey sandwich, also I don't like clowns and I feel like if this trial went on long enough, Wright would call a clown to the stand. Not interested. *Moe slumps depressed in the audience saddened everyone in the court won't get to hear his jokes* Franziska: *Whips Wright yet again* You know what, fuck this. *Glares and whips Wright before she leaves, but not before pointing a finger dramatically at him* Just wait until next trial, Mister Phoenix Wright. Victory will be mine. *Whips him one last time before she goes* Phoenix: *Grimaces as he gets lashed again* Better bring a Turkey Sandwich then. *Wright gets one additional lashing for his snark, and a few days later they'd be called back to trial because Acro had successfully murdered Regina. No one held any sympathy for him and his tragic backstory after what he had done and a Guilty verdict came along very quickly. The circus was shut down soon after and Franziska was pissed because this wasn't really a victory given how open and shut it was. Trilo made Ben take the both of them on a one way trip to the woodchipper, and Moe became a very sad clown at children's birthday parties who constantly brought down the mood.* *Max came out pretty good from that whole mess, even got a movie deal out of it. Though everybody else in the movie got flanderized to the point those still alive tried getting Phoenix to sue Max. Wright politely told them all, he wasn't that kind of lawyer.*
Acro's backstory honestly carried this trial. Moe wasn't that bad when he wasn't in the witness stand either. But the love triangle between two adult men and a 16 yo girl is awful. And the case would've worked fine without that too. Just make Ben/Trilo hate Max for another reason.
Honestly I wonder if the ages are different in Japan or the culturally acceptable age gap is different in Japan. That would still only justify max , ben or i guess trilo in this case are still in hot water
Just age down Max a few years (I could easily see him as being 16-18 years old) and remove the love triangle. Then this case would be perfectly fine. I really don't get why they made a major plot-point being three separate adults falling in love with a 16-year-old...
Anyone in the circus could've envied Max for becoming a hit in their show that had been dipping in ratings prior to his debut. And also for him having a higher pay rate. That's plenty for them to have motives on Max.
16 y/o wouldn't be as uncomfortable. Age of consent in a few states is 16; but Regina's _15._ I just ignire it because of cultural differences(both Japan-wise and Circus-wise) but... squick.
i didnt mind the case that much, but it was *so* much better in the anime. no weird grooming, short and to the point, moe joked around a lot less in the trial, and i personally found the characters to be a lot more likeable and full filing.
Yeah, I agree. I don't have access to the games, so I watched the anime instead. I'd heard about the weird stuff and prepared for the worst, but to my pleasant surprise the case was handled *so* much better in the show.
Since there wasn't a specific reason given for Ben and Max's argument in the anime, I like to imagine it was Trilo loudly calling Max out for being such a pompous asshole to everyone. Max was casually insulting them for doing their act 24/7, saying it's because Ben knows he can never say anything worthwhile without his ridiculous puppet. He'd then make a remark about something being wrong with Ben's head, thus leading to Max breaking the bottle over it.
I hate how literally every character didn’t show any remorse of their now dead work mate. Even Acro, I mean, I get why he wanted to kill Regina but SERIOUSLY?! Just have a talk to her-
The worst part is it’s literally shown that talking about how he felt to her would’ve actually worked because once he talked about how he felt about the situation she started to actually show remorse and take things seriously
@@jackofaces107 I don't think so. She started to take things more seriously after watching the trial and learning that basically everything is her fault.
Apparently Takumi wrote the case (and maybe the rest of JFA?) while he was drunk. And that really explains why turnabout big top turned out to be whatever the fuck it is. god
If that's the case, "Farewell My Turnabout" must have been either the part he made sober or SUPER drunk to the point that it wrapped back around to being brilliant.
It's stated that he intended to use any heavy object on the pile. The illusion that the bust created was pure coincidence. He could easily use the tuba and get the same results
@@PacoReerI’m gonna stick with my personal logic of how Acro was considering it for awhile but didn’t because it was too risky to use a regular object, but finally decided to follow through when Money had swiped the bust and he had his scapegoat.
I'm just thinking, imagine being 31 and seeing a kid talking about some dumb shit like "When people die they become stars" and being like "Yeah lol that's my wife right there"
If Acro succeeded in killing Regina, he would've gotten in even more trouble by pitting everyone against him as he's murdering the child of his father figure (who's still a minor) and her beauty catches the public's adoration. He'd have no one to pin the crime on as it'd be impossible to forge the scene and not to mention, everyone else would have an alibi. He could've just confront her like a normal person as she genuinely didn't mean any harm. He could enrich her about the stuff she missed out while she was sheltered without having to be abusive.
If he had the guts to accept imprisonment for the Ringmaster's death (If he didn't confess before was because Franziska was pulling some strings as well to win the case). I believe he would've just confessed straight for killing Regina.
He lost both his legs and his brother and co-worker as an Acrobat to her. All to then be reminded of how she doesn't give a damn about it every day, as she takes out the trash in the morning. I think being mentally unwell isn't a farfetched idea
The one thing I'll say in Acro's defense is that Regina is a lot shorter than the victim. It's possible he just intended it to sail over her head and scare her, and it only killed the ringmaster due to the height difference. I feel like this gets mentioned at some point in the chapter, but I forget when. Still a stupid plan overall, though.
@@alexanderkosten7611 But he couldn't see out the window well due to being wheelchair-bound. That alone's why he couldn't see that it was actually the ringmaster trying to pick up the box to begin with and even if his only goal was to scare Regina, he would've either missed or just killed her anyway.
Nevermind, I'm thinking the Moe segment was at the end of the stage, and unless using a savestate or doing something with the original NDS save feature to trick it, I can see many people rolling their eyes just for another chance to press a single dialogue
@@mjc0961 I'm playing through the 5th game now and I can safely say it's not, unless it's as I've mentioned up here with the _"Maybe on DS you had to cheat the system for a reload to retry Moe's Testimony"_ Too much text on the newer games honestly, and Athena just looks like Sora when she grins and I cringe internally whenever she goes on an exposition rant.
Honesty Moe and acro save the trial for me. Even though Moe does kinda take the piss out of the court proceedings you can kinda tell everything around him is just falling out at its seems so the only thing he can do is be the clown. Like when Moe was using the serious tone you felt like he was an actual guy who had his best friend die and had to deal with the fact his friends daughter didn't even think it was that big of a deal. Plus those refrences are great Then you have acro who was just completely devastated by the fact a girl who just put his only blood rrlated family into a coma
Weird how the clearly developmentally disabled (authors note im developmentally delayed albeit not as fucked up as the guy im mentioning rn) prisoner that dahlia manipulates into drinking poison is (rightfully) called out in game for robbing cradles but no one seems to call out bentrilo or max g out on grooming a 16 year old over like the majority of her life
@@UshioKiss I mean Apollo and Trucy are siblings but *that* game is 13 years old so it's fine. Oh wait this is a video about Justice for All I should be able to watch it without being spoiled. (Btw what I wrote isn't actually spoilers I'm not a jerk.)
@@sNazzy_nazzy say sike rite now bro 🤨 idk if you’ve actually played apollo justice but they deadass have the same mom, and i know you ain’t bouta be like “nah they’re technically only half siblings” like bruh. spoilers is still spoilers even if you try saying it’s a lie when it ain’t.
The only good part of this case was the scene in investigation day 2 where Franziska emerged from the bushes and started talking about Edgeworth's suicide note, giving Phoenix ptsd. Seriously.
Just finished the case and holy shit. The pedo stuff, the fucking penalties (at least there were some references so that was cool ig). The dumb cape thing, and after that I just gave up and said (spoilers alert) "fuck it at this point the bust may be under his wheelchair" AND GUESS FUCKING WHAT!?
@@Grey-i2oMaybe he just pulled it up very fast as to make it possible in case anyone saw the bust killing the ring master. Nobody will know from which floor came from.
@@Grey-i2o Think outside the box. Acro didn't plan any of it, it just happened. I mean what are the chances of Phoenix running into every crime scene? What are the chances of not only proving your defendant's innocence, but also finding the actual culprit every single case? It's part of the game
@@Grey-i2o I assumed it konda got launched up, like a gust of wind blew it by complete coincidence, but it was portrayed in the memetically stupidest way possible, and I love it.
The part when you had to figure out that galactica's coat says screw the gravity and flies on the statue i had to check the answer because of how ridiculous it is
Seriously. They made an interesting and not creepy towards a child character (Besides Moe and Regina's dad) but then made him extremely stupid. I mean the plan since it's so full of holes. Let's say that he did end up kiIIing Regina. He would be the only person with a motive.
This case made me feel disgusting and I hate replaying it, even though it’s got some good Franziska moments. (She’s one of my favorite characters btw, so it pains me that one of her few episodes is this one) When I first played the episode, I thought maybe, just *maybe*, Regina would be the killer all along. I mean…think about it. That’d make it a much more compelling story. She’d be fighting back against her father who effectively sheltered her for the entirety of her life seemingly against her will. Perhaps it’d be revealed her childish persona was nothing more than an act, either out of malicious intent like Dahlia, or more tragically, as a defense mechanism. Maybe she knew it would keep everyone happy if she kept it up, and she was terrified of finding out what would happen if she dropped it. Maybe she found out about Max’s plans to marry her and snapped, opting to rid of the person in charge and free herself from the situation she’d been trapped into. Then, she’d use the persona she’d already perfected and nobody would suspect her. When Leon the Lion’s story was revealed, I at first believed it lended further evidence to Regina being the culprit, but alas, it wasn’t to be. There’s more to this idea that I could expand upon, but I’ve rambled long enough as is. I’d be happy to talk about it some more with other people if anyone would like!
Oh I really want to hear the full story/interpretation! This definitely sounds better than the original plot of this case! The only part I liked of turnabout big top is when Franziska spoke to Phoenix about the situation with Miles
I just finished this case for the first time, and I was 100% convinced that Regina was the murderer. It would have been much more satisfying, and I legitimately thought the Acro stuff was all a complex red herring.
I would prefer her to be innocent but I like the idea that her innocence caused her to directly kill someone, or that the nice and quiet one snapped due to the pressure of her coworkers
I thought at the start that the ringmaster was just not that good of a guy as everyone seemed to think, and Regina casually talking about him killing Leon was a hint to his privately cruel and abusive nature.
@@user-ez9ng2rw9c exactly! This guy kiIIed a lion due to a mistake. He sheltered his teenage daughter so she didn't even know about death, and did not have an issue with Max trying to marry her
"So, what awesome and complicated plan did you have to get that large statue into your room?" "Monke" That was the moment that I lost all suspension of disbelief.
Nothing like 2 (formerly 3) adult men trying to hit on a teenager while someone else tries to kill said girl as the only somewhat normal person is a depressed clown
Ah yes, this case. I won't lie, I hate Regina, Max, and Ben/Trilo. C'mon now, we , we did not need a love triangle involving a totally clueless 16 year old girl who thinks everything is a game, especially with the other two in the triangle being ADULTS. Sure, Ben is schizophrenic, and Trilo is a doll, but let's face it, Regina would eventually wise up and realize that the guy holding Trilo is 15 years older than she is... or at least, we HOPE she would wise up. And then there's Max. I honestly preferred him as the cocky circus star over the southern hick in disguise. There really was no need for him to suddenly "be Southern": he could have stayed a cocky star who thought he was untouchable until he realized that hey, he's actually in a LOT of trouble, and it could humble him realistically. And he does get humbled... but they made it feel so... phony. I don't mind folks from the south at all, but I personally think this Turnabout did them dirty. And honestly, the entire Turnabout would have been more tolerable without either Max or Ben/Trilo falling in love with Regina. They could have totally hated each other for different reasons... perhaps because Max is the big star of the circus, for example? And Max could dislike Ben/Trilo because he thinks they're running the circus into the ground, or maybe he could just not care enough about them to even acknowledge them. Believable reasons for their dislike- or mutual dislike, depending on how it's played out- without getting a 16 year old, clueless girl involved in a creepy love triangle. Speaking of whom, Regina is the absolute WORST of the lot of them, and it's not really even her fault why she's this way... or so the game would have you think. It wants you to think that this is all the ringmaster's fault... you know, the guy who got murdered. As if the poor guy wasn't already being screwed over enough... because he's fuckin' DEAD. But let's be honest, it's not just his fault, nor is it the fault of the circus and the people that also spoil and shelter her: she's fucking 16 years old and should have the intelligence and imagination of a 16 year old to ask questions about things she doesn't totally understand. Yet I'd wager that she hasn't asked an important question in her life, and just skips about on her merry way to screw people over because she's cute and is a popular star at a circus. The only saving graces to this Turnabout are Acro and Moe. Moe because he does finally get himself together enough to lead Regina- and eventually the rest of the circus- down the right path, and Acro because his side of the entire debacle is actually pretty well-written and tugs at the heartstrings. Oh, and also Gumshoe, because Gumshoe is the best and deserves more love. And a raise. And some extra ramen noodles. Anyways, thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
The whole reason Max is Billy Bob Johns is because in the original Japanese, he's a similar guy from some nowhere village out in the Japanese countryside, and he's ashamed of his origins.
Ah, gotcha. That does make a bit more sense to me. And I will agree that Max Galactic is a much better name for a magician than Billy Bob Johns, though I still think the localization could have done without making him so... southern. But that's just me.
Rule One of Ace Attorney: We don't talk about Turnabout Big Top. Rule Two of Ace Attorney: *WE DON'T TALK ABOUT TURNABOUT BIG TOP.* IT NEVER HAPPENED. WE WILL NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT DID HAPPEN, EVER. IF SOMEONE ASKS, WE LEAVE OURSELVES OR POLITELY YET FIRMLY ASK THEM TO LEAVE BY THEIR OWN MERIT. IT WILL BE STRICKEN FROM THE RECORD, AND DENIED THE RIGHT TO EXIST AS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE FOR THE SAKE OF FUTURE GENERATIONS AND THEIR SANITY. IN WEST CLOWNADELPHIA, BORN AND RAIS---AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Ben is the only character I hate in the trilogy. At least the murderers have fun personalities, some of them are even likable. This guy was just a creep
@@dhans9662 I'd hate to meet him, but he's one cool final boss for the first game. Ben could be replaced by anything else and the case would be the same thing
the whole trilo and regina thing confused me so much. i know that ben doesn't actually like regina that way and that it's trilo who wanted to be with regina but like????? trilo is a doll. he's not real, so is it just ben's way of saying he wants to be with regina (which is CREEPY) or did ben make trilo be in love with regina as like "an act"?
Fun fact: In one of Ben's sprites, you can see him moving his mouth when Trio's the one talking. Which concludes that BEN is the one who's in love with Regina. Ben's a 31 yr old Pupeteer and then there's Regina who's fucking 18. Isn't that messed up?
This would be even better if the stupid "Guess where the murder weapon is or your client is guilty" part were in it. I didn't even know Acro had a blanket over his legs, so I assumed saying that the bust was in his chair implied that he was SITTING on the bust without anybody noticing.
…Oh yeah, Moe is an old friend of the Ringmaster. …and he literally brings Regina on the second trial day to make her take things seriously… …What the fuck even, Moe?
The average human learns the concept of death at age six. She is WELL past that age yet doesn't understand. She NEEDED to know the weight death had. She needed to know that death is a very final thing
@@HTFFanOfFlaky Moe apparently took over as ringmaster beyond that case, I hope he fired Woodman and maybe Max too. There were like 3 guys too old for her in that case alone, one of them being Acro's brother at 22 years old.
I don't think Acro's backstory was even well written. I think people only think that because it's the only decent thing about this case. but even with what happened to his brother he has no real justification to kill Regina. It's pretty stupid in my opinion. Also I have no idea why people feel bad for him, he literally murdered someone on purpose. Thankfully they did something actually good with a similar concept years later in Turnabout Reclaimed, which is just Big Top but better in pretty much every way.
Acro's not justified. But to have this person everyone loves be the cause of what is essentially your brother's death and keep acting in their happy-go-lucky attitude like nothing happened at all... I can see it.
I disagree with the lack of motive. *From Acro's POV*, Regina had been manipulating and bossing around his little brother for a while with full knowledge how strong his feelings for her are for a while. Then she recklessly endangered his life for her own amusement, perhaps even maliciously, expecting him to be hurt or dead. I mean, what are you supposed to assume when a person seemingly makes a lethal trap for somebody - that it's a prank or an attempted murder? Then, knowing Bat's on the brink of death due to her actions, Regina goes on with her life life nothing happened and shows no remorse. She doesn't even admit to what happened. Imo, looking from Acro's perspective, his hatred is justified and even expected. Can't say the same about the murder, but I can see why he would think Regina is secretly a monster
Can I be the one to say that I fucking hate Acro? He had an interesting background but everything else just sucked. He tried to kill a fucking child just because she indirectly caused his brother's (kinda) death. His plan failed and he ended up killing the man that everyone loved because the victim wanted to protect his daughter. I mean, sure, people can hold a grudge, but people don't usually try to kill a 16 (12, mentally) year old girl. And to top it all off, the game tries to make you feel BAD for him. What the fuck? He tried to kill an innocent little girl and the writers are saying shit like "Maybe EVERYONE was a victim." Yeah alright, Acro will be a "victim" in my eyes when Phoenix gets announced for Smash.
You're not alone. I sincerely love characters like him and Larry because I happen to be like them personality wise. I'm neither a clown nor a circus, but the entire entertainment industry. So I guess it's just natural.
moe's fantastic, he is genuinely my favorite non-recurring witness in the series and he's the character that really embodies the good of the case that i appreciate about it _(once you either forget or remove the really unfortunate love triangle thing)_
Phoenix Wright: You are embarrassing max she's only 16 name is Regina! Max: WHAT NO WAY SHE'S ONLY 16 GIRL OH MY GOD!! Franziska Von Karma: only 16 year old some one child. THE END!
honestly if i didnt have a walkthrough with me while playing AA2 it would've taken me so long to get through moe's testimony, esp since his testimony IS KIND OF VAGUE the first time i got a game over was bc of his cross examination...
That's what I was thinking. As an asian myself it's very common in the east so I didn't really notice the age difference being a problem tbh. For localization they really should have aged her up like 2 years it would've avoided criticism from the west
Oh yeah, this case... The reason why it took me a year to finish Justice for All as I just didn't felt like picking the game back up once I stopped playing when I got to this part
So Game Grumps started playing this case i got impatient and literally bought the game to continue ahead of them. I tried to play fair i really did. But once i started "losing" because of Moe's presses and evidence that should work being penalized by the judge i said fuck it and went to a guide How the fuck does an item we never find during the investigation become the murder weapon When Moe is talking about a black cloak and saying he saw the witness i tried to present Max and his PURPLE cloak and its incorrect. Acro says he saw a silhouettes yet during the investigation if you examine the light it says it was "off" during the murder. So if IT WAS FUCKING OFF HOW DID A SHADOW GET CAST !? FUCK 😊
What could release Max from his legal guilt of liking Regina is the Ringmaster being willing to marry Regina off to Max, able to sign to have it done. So maybe Acro did some good in this case.
Yeah the trick in this case was pretty bad, like what will happen if the cape not perfectly attached to the trophy? What will they say? And this conclusion happen after we got a clown that can't be pressed.
You know what I'm shocked wasn't in the actual case? You know how Acro is always by birds, right? I was thinking maybe he was going to use the birds to lift the cape up, but I guess the bust works well too... Though that raises the question: why IS Acro so relatable with birds? Is that ever actually explained?
i think it's kind of to show how he's a very kind and gentle person to a point where animals tend to really like him, sort of like a disney princess thing ! 80
I had to take like, several breaks while playing this case. Like it took me a good month to get through it, I hated it so much. I want to watch Moe die and same with that rockstar groomer
best ending we didnt get: "sure max is not guilty of murder but we're still fucking holding another trial for that whole 'trying to wed a teenager' problem"
@@Anonymous-mo7oe Ohhhhhhh man, you have NO idea. It's basically two cases presented as one, and the second half involves _stalling for time_ because your suspect refuses to testify.
At times like this I really get the feeling I should've looked in "Persons" side of Court Record more. Like... It didn't even occur to me she was 16 while I was playing this part, I though she was just dumb and clueless. On a side note, Turnabout Big Top wasn't a bad case, imo. Those who complain about just haven't played "Turnabout Storyteller".
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Edgeworth instantly sprang out of retirement, iconic suit and edgy hair at the ready, just to call Phoenix the entire circus.
He unchose death
this is a real "Phoenix Wright will be defending" moment
If he was dead, he would've still came back.
Phoenix: “She’s only 16, and Max is 21?! That’s disgusting!”
Ben, age 31: “uhhh yeah man that’s pretty messed up” **sweats**
From what country is this circus?
@@Just_a_Dragon69 I think every game is set in Japan
@@papaprovolone9432 being like that, the legal age in japan is 13
@@Just_a_Dragon69 😈 boutta make me act up
@@Just_a_Dragon69 it doesn't work like that, it's the age of consent between minors
looking back, moe was one of the more sympathetic characters. he was (ironically) the most mature one in the entire circus and actually tried to help regina see the truth about what happened.
And it worked
He was the only one not consumed by his delusions and he helped Regina grow out of hers, big respect
Well he wasn't actually goofy, he was just trying to hide the fact that he was depressed. But not only did he act appropriately towards the teenager, he practices falling 100 times a day
Indeed
He was also the only one not attracted to a minor
One inaccuracy. Von Karma isn’t constantly calling Phoenix by his full name almost every other sentence.
THis. it's my head canon than Franziska pronounces his name literally "Phohee"nix
That’s MISTER Full Name, to you pal!
Ya know, the most interesting part about this case is not the lack of emotions the characters display or the bad physics but the explanation Von Karma came up with for how Max was able to fly outside the tent we never got to hear
for real
Wright: Well Von Karma?
Franziska: *Whips Wright* Listen it's not my job to prove how the foolish fool Magician could have gotten away after committing the murder, it's your job to prove how he couldn't have committed the murder at all and who actually did it, Mister Phoenix Wright! *Whips Wright again*
*The people in the gallery are start muttering, disagreeing with her.*
Wright: *Smirks despite the pain he is in* Well maybe we should ask the Judge what he thinks.
Judge: Well I don't really- *Eyes widen as he sees Maya pull out a Turkey Sandwich* Nevermind, Not Guilty.
Franziska: *Whips Wright again angrily* What the hell, old man!? *Whips Wright once more*
Judge: *Shrugs enjoying the sandwich* He had a turkey sandwich, also I don't like clowns and I feel like if this trial went on long enough, Wright would call a clown to the stand. Not interested.
*Moe slumps depressed in the audience saddened everyone in the court won't get to hear his jokes*
Franziska: *Whips Wright yet again* You know what, fuck this. *Glares and whips Wright before she leaves, but not before pointing a finger dramatically at him* Just wait until next trial, Mister Phoenix Wright. Victory will be mine. *Whips him one last time before she goes*
Phoenix: *Grimaces as he gets lashed again* Better bring a Turkey Sandwich then.
*Wright gets one additional lashing for his snark, and a few days later they'd be called back to trial because Acro had successfully murdered Regina. No one held any sympathy for him and his tragic backstory after what he had done and a Guilty verdict came along very quickly. The circus was shut down soon after and Franziska was pissed because this wasn't really a victory given how open and shut it was. Trilo made Ben take the both of them on a one way trip to the woodchipper, and Moe became a very sad clown at children's birthday parties who constantly brought down the mood.*
*Max came out pretty good from that whole mess, even got a movie deal out of it. Though everybody else in the movie got flanderized to the point those still alive tried getting Phoenix to sue Max. Wright politely told them all, he wasn't that kind of lawyer.*
@@rjfrost7090 cringe. Franziska didn't say fool enough.
@@microwave8931 foolish fool blabbering foolishly in this foolish country
Acro's backstory honestly carried this trial. Moe wasn't that bad when he wasn't in the witness stand either. But the love triangle between two adult men and a 16 yo girl is awful. And the case would've worked fine without that too. Just make Ben/Trilo hate Max for another reason.
Honestly I wonder if the ages are different in Japan or the culturally acceptable age gap is different in Japan. That would still only justify max , ben or i guess trilo in this case are still in hot water
Just age down Max a few years (I could easily see him as being 16-18 years old) and remove the love triangle. Then this case would be perfectly fine. I really don't get why they made a major plot-point being three separate adults falling in love with a 16-year-old...
Anyone in the circus could've envied Max for becoming a hit in their show that had been dipping in ratings prior to his debut. And also for him having a higher pay rate.
That's plenty for them to have motives on Max.
I think aging Regina up could also work, and make the Bat incident 6 years ago instead of 6 months ago
16 y/o wouldn't be as uncomfortable. Age of consent in a few states is 16; but Regina's _15._
I just ignire it because of cultural differences(both Japan-wise and Circus-wise) but... squick.
If I have to cross examine the clown again I'm gonna cry
moe is unironically the best big top character
@@samwic9372 :'(
i played this episode for the first time like 4 days ago and im so confused, why tf did he keep making fresh prince of belair references bruh
@@samwic9372 Probably yes because everyone else is worse XD
i didnt mind the case that much, but it was *so* much better in the anime. no weird grooming, short and to the point, moe joked around a lot less in the trial, and i personally found the characters to be a lot more likeable and full filing.
I like the anime version so much more just because of Regina's moment at the end of the case.
Yeah, I agree. I don't have access to the games, so I watched the anime instead. I'd heard about the weird stuff and prepared for the worst, but to my pleasant surprise the case was handled *so* much better in the show.
Since there wasn't a specific reason given for Ben and Max's argument in the anime, I like to imagine it was Trilo loudly calling Max out for being such a pompous asshole to everyone. Max was casually insulting them for doing their act 24/7, saying it's because Ben knows he can never say anything worthwhile without his ridiculous puppet. He'd then make a remark about something being wrong with Ben's head, thus leading to Max breaking the bottle over it.
grooming????
@@papaparsley7695 Regina is 16 while the others are.. yeah...
I hate how literally every character didn’t show any remorse of their now dead work mate.
Even Acro, I mean, I get why he wanted to kill Regina but SERIOUSLY?! Just have a talk to her-
The worst part is it’s literally shown that talking about how he felt to her would’ve actually worked because once he talked about how he felt about the situation she started to actually show remorse and take things seriously
@@jackofaces107
I don't think so. She started to take things more seriously after watching the trial and learning that basically everything is her fault.
@@Sambath-oc8ss So basically Moe is the most mature character, ironically
@@senorlechuga8832
Yep. Since he is the adult of the circus after Regina's father's death.
@@senorlechuga8832That's irony with a capital I.
Apparently Takumi wrote the case (and maybe the rest of JFA?) while he was drunk. And that really explains why turnabout big top turned out to be whatever the fuck it is. god
This explains.. so much..
fyi i saw this on twitter. i cant send links on yt but @AA_Facts made a relevant post about it. Pretty fucking funny if you ask me
Oh my god that explains it
If that's the case, "Farewell My Turnabout" must have been either the part he made sober or SUPER drunk to the point that it wrapped back around to being brilliant.
can't tell if that makes Big top a secret masterpiece, or worst.
"btw, the monkey conveniently brought that statue to my room on that day for no reason at all"
It's established that the monkey likes to collect shiny things, and the bust held shiny cards.
That monkey must have been so buff XD
It's stated that he intended to use any heavy object on the pile. The illusion that the bust created was pure coincidence. He could easily use the tuba and get the same results
@@somerandomguynumber111 Yeah. Especially if you have played Investigations 2, where Money the monkey is revealed to be about a foot or so tall.
@@PacoReerI’m gonna stick with my personal logic of how Acro was considering it for awhile but didn’t because it was too risky to use a regular object, but finally decided to follow through when Money had swiped the bust and he had his scapegoat.
I hate this case but I love the part of Farewell my Turnabout where Phoenix has memories of Vietnam about Moe's jokes
ok but wheres the part about trilo trying to marry regina when it’s a literal puppet
& Regina doesn't seem to realise
I'm just thinking, imagine being 31 and seeing a kid talking about some dumb shit like "When people die they become stars" and being like "Yeah lol that's my wife right there"
If Acro succeeded in killing Regina, he would've gotten in even more trouble by pitting everyone against him as he's murdering the child of his father figure (who's still a minor) and her beauty catches the public's adoration. He'd have no one to pin the crime on as it'd be impossible to forge the scene and not to mention, everyone else would have an alibi. He could've just confront her like a normal person as she genuinely didn't mean any harm. He could enrich her about the stuff she missed out while she was sheltered without having to be abusive.
If he had the guts to accept imprisonment for the Ringmaster's death (If he didn't confess before was because Franziska was pulling some strings as well to win the case). I believe he would've just confessed straight for killing Regina.
He lost both his legs and his brother and co-worker as an Acrobat to her. All to then be reminded of how she doesn't give a damn about it every day, as she takes out the trash in the morning.
I think being mentally unwell isn't a farfetched idea
The one thing I'll say in Acro's defense is that Regina is a lot shorter than the victim. It's possible he just intended it to sail over her head and scare her, and it only killed the ringmaster due to the height difference. I feel like this gets mentioned at some point in the chapter, but I forget when. Still a stupid plan overall, though.
@@alexanderkosten7611 But he couldn't see out the window well due to being wheelchair-bound. That alone's why he couldn't see that it was actually the ringmaster trying to pick up the box to begin with and even if his only goal was to scare Regina, he would've either missed or just killed her anyway.
It's established he's doing it knowing it will give him the death penalty. He has no intention to live with what he's done
"I groomed her first"
- Ben (or Trilo? Or both?)
I think trilo, Ben's probably ashamed of him
That will never not be funny
Yes.
@@panthertakamaki7141 Ben was ashamed of himself, so he projected his feeling into Trilo. That way he could keep up the illusion of "magic".
"I'm from alabama. And she's my cousin."
-Billy bob johns
The case wasn't that bad, but the Alabama joke was pretty good
Nevermind, I'm thinking the Moe segment was at the end of the stage, and unless using a savestate or doing something with the original NDS save feature to trick it, I can see many people rolling their eyes just for another chance to press a single dialogue
Yes, the case was that bad.
@@mjc0961 I'm playing through the 5th game now and I can safely say it's not, unless it's as I've mentioned up here with the _"Maybe on DS you had to cheat the system for a reload to retry Moe's Testimony"_
Too much text on the newer games honestly, and Athena just looks like Sora when she grins and I cringe internally whenever she goes on an exposition rant.
The case is awful when you soft lock your game by accident and have to restart the whole thing
@@firegirl2593 How can you softlock it? Or you meant that it crashed?
Honesty Moe and acro save the trial for me. Even though Moe does kinda take the piss out of the court proceedings you can kinda tell everything around him is just falling out at its seems so the only thing he can do is be the clown. Like when Moe was using the serious tone you felt like he was an actual guy who had his best friend die and had to deal with the fact his friends daughter didn't even think it was that big of a deal. Plus those refrences are great
Then you have acro who was just completely devastated by the fact a girl who just put his only blood rrlated family into a coma
Weird how the clearly developmentally disabled (authors note im developmentally delayed albeit not as fucked up as the guy im mentioning rn) prisoner that dahlia manipulates into drinking poison is (rightfully) called out in game for robbing cradles but no one seems to call out bentrilo or max g out on grooming a 16 year old over like the majority of her life
Dude. Spoiler tag. I'm still on 3-1.
@@sNazzy_nazzy I get it bc I literally finished trials and tribulations the other day but the game is like 10 years old
@@ridinginthered1614 then don't watch ace attorney videos??
@@UshioKiss I mean Apollo and Trucy are siblings but *that* game is 13 years old so it's fine. Oh wait this is a video about Justice for All I should be able to watch it without being spoiled. (Btw what I wrote isn't actually spoilers I'm not a jerk.)
@@sNazzy_nazzy say sike rite now bro 🤨
idk if you’ve actually played apollo justice but
they deadass have the same mom, and i know you ain’t bouta be like “nah they’re technically only half siblings” like bruh. spoilers is still spoilers even if you try saying it’s a lie when it ain’t.
The only good part of this case was the scene in investigation day 2 where Franziska emerged from the bushes and started talking about Edgeworth's suicide note, giving Phoenix ptsd. Seriously.
Just finished the case and holy shit. The pedo stuff, the fucking penalties (at least there were some references so that was cool ig). The dumb cape thing, and after that I just gave up and said (spoilers alert) "fuck it at this point the bust may be under his wheelchair"
AND GUESS FUCKING WHAT!?
The cape going up with the bust was a coincidence. Acro wanted to kill Regina, not the ringmaster.
It still doesn’t make any god damn sense how it would perfectly fly behind the bust and land on its shoulders
@@Grey-i2oMaybe he just pulled it up very fast as to make it possible in case anyone saw the bust killing the ring master. Nobody will know from which floor came from.
@@Grey-i2o It landed on the front, snagged on the cards. The cloak was on backwards, it just looked like it was on the right way in silhouette.
@@Grey-i2o Think outside the box. Acro didn't plan any of it, it just happened. I mean what are the chances of Phoenix running into every crime scene? What are the chances of not only proving your defendant's innocence, but also finding the actual culprit every single case? It's part of the game
@@Grey-i2o I assumed it konda got launched up, like a gust of wind blew it by complete coincidence, but it was portrayed in the memetically stupidest way possible, and I love it.
0/10 No Phoenix getting whipped.
hello
THE ENTIRE BLOODY CIRCUS
The part when you had to figure out that galactica's coat says screw the gravity and flies on the statue i had to check the answer because of how ridiculous it is
"I had a well-written backstory (up until I decided to kill a teenage girl for not understanding how comas work)"
Comas can be potentially permanent.
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter she still doesn't know how comas work
Seriously. They made an interesting and not creepy towards a child character (Besides Moe and Regina's dad) but then made him extremely stupid. I mean the plan since it's so full of holes.
Let's say that he did end up kiIIing Regina. He would be the only person with a motive.
@@microwave8931 Oh, I read it as "he wanted to kill a teenage girl because he doesn't know how comas work."
There was a bit more to it then that but yeah this case was so sloppy all the way around
I don’t understand why the localization team didn’t just age up Regina by two years. It would’ve made this case way less creepy.
Judge: "She's 16? *ZAMN* 😍"
This case made me feel disgusting and I hate replaying it, even though it’s got some good Franziska moments. (She’s one of my favorite characters btw, so it pains me that one of her few episodes is this one)
When I first played the episode, I thought maybe, just *maybe*, Regina would be the killer all along. I mean…think about it. That’d make it a much more compelling story. She’d be fighting back against her father who effectively sheltered her for the entirety of her life seemingly against her will. Perhaps it’d be revealed her childish persona was nothing more than an act, either out of malicious intent like Dahlia, or more tragically, as a defense mechanism. Maybe she knew it would keep everyone happy if she kept it up, and she was terrified of finding out what would happen if she dropped it. Maybe she found out about Max’s plans to marry her and snapped, opting to rid of the person in charge and free herself from the situation she’d been trapped into. Then, she’d use the persona she’d already perfected and nobody would suspect her.
When Leon the Lion’s story was revealed, I at first believed it lended further evidence to Regina being the culprit, but alas, it wasn’t to be.
There’s more to this idea that I could expand upon, but I’ve rambled long enough as is. I’d be happy to talk about it some more with other people if anyone would like!
Oh I really want to hear the full story/interpretation! This definitely sounds better than the original plot of this case! The only part I liked of turnabout big top is when Franziska spoke to Phoenix about the situation with Miles
I just finished this case for the first time, and I was 100% convinced that Regina was the murderer. It would have been much more satisfying, and I legitimately thought the Acro stuff was all a complex red herring.
I would prefer her to be innocent but I like the idea that her innocence caused her to directly kill someone, or that the nice and quiet one snapped due to the pressure of her coworkers
I thought at the start that the ringmaster was just not that good of a guy as everyone seemed to think, and Regina casually talking about him killing Leon was a hint to his privately cruel and abusive nature.
@@user-ez9ng2rw9c exactly! This guy kiIIed a lion due to a mistake. He sheltered his teenage daughter so she didn't even know about death, and did not have an issue with Max trying to marry her
the ironic thing is that the best character in this case IS FUCKING MOE
I have absolutely no doubt that Edgeworth would come back from the dead/being in hiding just to roast Phoenix.
"So, what awesome and complicated plan did you have to get that large statue into your room?"
"Monke"
That was the moment that I lost all suspension of disbelief.
I salute people who can correctly use von karma's "foolishness"
Nothing like 2 (formerly 3) adult men trying to hit on a teenager while someone else tries to kill said girl as the only somewhat normal person is a depressed clown
Ah yes, this case. I won't lie, I hate Regina, Max, and Ben/Trilo. C'mon now, we , we did not need a love triangle involving a totally clueless 16 year old girl who thinks everything is a game, especially with the other two in the triangle being ADULTS. Sure, Ben is schizophrenic, and Trilo is a doll, but let's face it, Regina would eventually wise up and realize that the guy holding Trilo is 15 years older than she is... or at least, we HOPE she would wise up.
And then there's Max. I honestly preferred him as the cocky circus star over the southern hick in disguise. There really was no need for him to suddenly "be Southern": he could have stayed a cocky star who thought he was untouchable until he realized that hey, he's actually in a LOT of trouble, and it could humble him realistically. And he does get humbled... but they made it feel so... phony. I don't mind folks from the south at all, but I personally think this Turnabout did them dirty.
And honestly, the entire Turnabout would have been more tolerable without either Max or Ben/Trilo falling in love with Regina. They could have totally hated each other for different reasons... perhaps because Max is the big star of the circus, for example? And Max could dislike Ben/Trilo because he thinks they're running the circus into the ground, or maybe he could just not care enough about them to even acknowledge them. Believable reasons for their dislike- or mutual dislike, depending on how it's played out- without getting a 16 year old, clueless girl involved in a creepy love triangle.
Speaking of whom, Regina is the absolute WORST of the lot of them, and it's not really even her fault why she's this way... or so the game would have you think. It wants you to think that this is all the ringmaster's fault... you know, the guy who got murdered. As if the poor guy wasn't already being screwed over enough... because he's fuckin' DEAD. But let's be honest, it's not just his fault, nor is it the fault of the circus and the people that also spoil and shelter her: she's fucking 16 years old and should have the intelligence and imagination of a 16 year old to ask questions about things she doesn't totally understand. Yet I'd wager that she hasn't asked an important question in her life, and just skips about on her merry way to screw people over because she's cute and is a popular star at a circus.
The only saving graces to this Turnabout are Acro and Moe. Moe because he does finally get himself together enough to lead Regina- and eventually the rest of the circus- down the right path, and Acro because his side of the entire debacle is actually pretty well-written and tugs at the heartstrings.
Oh, and also Gumshoe, because Gumshoe is the best and deserves more love. And a raise. And some extra ramen noodles. Anyways, thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
The whole reason Max is Billy Bob Johns is because in the original Japanese, he's a similar guy from some nowhere village out in the Japanese countryside, and he's ashamed of his origins.
Ah, gotcha. That does make a bit more sense to me. And I will agree that Max Galactic is a much better name for a magician than Billy Bob Johns, though I still think the localization could have done without making him so... southern. But that's just me.
@@RoWiGRaTH I was gonna say, where else can you find a guy with three first names? And then I remembered Michael Gary Scott.
Just because he's dead doesn't mean he shouldn't be responsible for his horrible parenting
@@microwave8931And also killing a lion who did literally nothing wrong. That pissed me off.
None of the characters are shocked to see Edgeworth back 😅
I still want to know if Trilo is really like a cursed muppet or if Ben just has a mental illness
Why not both?
I fucking lost it when Franciska shouted "YOU AGREED TO DEFEND A PEDOPHILE"
And then lost it again when Max said "I'm fron Alabama"
Rule One of Ace Attorney: We don't talk about Turnabout Big Top.
Rule Two of Ace Attorney: *WE DON'T TALK ABOUT TURNABOUT BIG TOP.* IT NEVER HAPPENED. WE WILL NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT DID HAPPEN, EVER. IF SOMEONE ASKS, WE LEAVE OURSELVES OR POLITELY YET FIRMLY ASK THEM TO LEAVE BY THEIR OWN MERIT. IT WILL BE STRICKEN FROM THE RECORD, AND DENIED THE RIGHT TO EXIST AS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE FOR THE SAKE OF FUTURE GENERATIONS AND THEIR SANITY. IN WEST CLOWNADELPHIA, BORN AND RAIS---AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
We don't talk about big top no no no! We don't talk about big top!
Rule Three of Ace Attorney: Turnabout Big Top is has only existed in the anime.
I am speechless
I just got out of the shower and i already feel like i need to crawl back in, preferably while crying
"You are not a clown...YOU ARE THE ENTIRE *BLOODY* CIRCUS!!"
Yep this is pretty accurate. I didn't mind the case personally but this is it.
Accurate
Ben is the only character I hate in the trilogy. At least the murderers have fun personalities, some of them are even likable. This guy was just a creep
You dont even hate Manfred von Karma?
@@dhans9662 I'd hate to meet him, but he's one cool final boss for the first game. Ben could be replaced by anything else and the case would be the same thing
@@Danox94 Huh, good point.
Director Hotti?
@@Bullet731108 oh, you're right. I'd forgotten about him.
Jesus Christ...how did it never occur to me that Max and Ben were child stalkers???
the whole trilo and regina thing confused me so much. i know that ben doesn't actually like regina that way and that it's trilo who wanted to be with regina but like????? trilo is a doll. he's not real, so is it just ben's way of saying he wants to be with regina (which is CREEPY) or did ben make trilo be in love with regina as like "an act"?
He's scizophrenic
@@HTFFanOfFlaky not even remotely how schizophrenia works but ok
@@HTFFanOfFlaky You mean he has dissociative identity disorder. Schizophrenia is a different disorder entirely.
Fun fact: In one of Ben's sprites, you can see him moving his mouth when Trio's the one talking. Which concludes that BEN is the one who's in love with Regina. Ben's a 31 yr old Pupeteer and then there's Regina who's fucking 18. Isn't that messed up?
This would be even better if the stupid "Guess where the murder weapon is or your client is guilty" part were in it. I didn't even know Acro had a blanket over his legs, so I assumed saying that the bust was in his chair implied that he was SITTING on the bust without anybody noticing.
His sprite has a blanket
@@HTFFanOfFlaky I'm pretty sure you only see his top half until after accusing him of hiding the bust.
@@listlessdandelion3587 Not to mention that the platinum cards would be stabbing his backside. Ouch.
@@Lar_me he wouldn’t be able to feel it. Still ouch.
The grooming joke killed me
Same
It's funny because it's true
it was literally the lowest hanging fruit in the entire case to make fun of
My jaw dropped when i read "I GROOMED HER FIRST" in ALL CAPS.
Turnabout Big Top? More like Turnabout Big Flop.
…Oh yeah, Moe is an old friend of the Ringmaster.
…and he literally brings Regina on the second trial day to make her take things seriously…
…What the fuck even, Moe?
Are you commending him or criticising him?
The point is that he wanted Regina to understand what was going on and for her to open her eyes.
There was nothing wrong with him doing that,
, the fuck? Do you WANT her to continue being sheltered like a toddler?
The average human learns the concept of death at age six. She is WELL past that age yet doesn't understand. She NEEDED to know the weight death had. She needed to know that death is a very final thing
@@HTFFanOfFlaky Moe apparently took over as ringmaster beyond that case, I hope he fired Woodman and maybe Max too. There were like 3 guys too old for her in that case alone, one of them being Acro's brother at 22 years old.
Acro is my favorite part of this case. He absolutely makes the whole case for me.
Reclaimed did the whole "thematic" thing and the culprit just better
Thank you for making this, seeing Ace Attorney memes always makes me feel less stupid for thinking a case makes no sense
Say what you will about Moe, but he's not a pedophile.
regina looks like shes goddamn 5 or 7 wyfm 16???
I don't think Acro's backstory was even well written. I think people only think that because it's the only decent thing about this case. but even with what happened to his brother he has no real justification to kill Regina. It's pretty stupid in my opinion. Also I have no idea why people feel bad for him, he literally murdered someone on purpose.
Thankfully they did something actually good with a similar concept years later in Turnabout Reclaimed, which is just Big Top but better in pretty much every way.
i dont have a problem with his motive, im just confused as to how he ended up wheelchair-bound when bat is the one the lion bit
@@glassphoenix9095 it happened when he tried to save bat, the lion attacked him
Acro's not justified. But to have this person everyone loves be the cause of what is essentially your brother's death and keep acting in their happy-go-lucky attitude like nothing happened at all... I can see it.
well, without Turnabout Big Top, we wouldn't have the AAI2 that we know.
I disagree with the lack of motive. *From Acro's POV*, Regina had been manipulating and bossing around his little brother for a while with full knowledge how strong his feelings for her are for a while. Then she recklessly endangered his life for her own amusement, perhaps even maliciously, expecting him to be hurt or dead. I mean, what are you supposed to assume when a person seemingly makes a lethal trap for somebody - that it's a prank or an attempted murder? Then, knowing Bat's on the brink of death due to her actions, Regina goes on with her life life nothing happened and shows no remorse. She doesn't even admit to what happened.
Imo, looking from Acro's perspective, his hatred is justified and even expected. Can't say the same about the murder, but I can see why he would think Regina is secretly a monster
Can I be the one to say that I fucking hate Acro? He had an interesting background but everything else just sucked. He tried to kill a fucking child just because she indirectly caused his brother's (kinda) death. His plan failed and he ended up killing the man that everyone loved because the victim wanted to protect his daughter. I mean, sure, people can hold a grudge, but people don't usually try to kill a 16 (12, mentally) year old girl. And to top it all off, the game tries to make you feel BAD for him. What the fuck? He tried to kill an innocent little girl and the writers are saying shit like "Maybe EVERYONE was a victim." Yeah alright, Acro will be a "victim" in my eyes when Phoenix gets announced for Smash.
I've gotta be the only person who actually likes Moe, but everything else was on point
You're not alone. I sincerely love characters like him and Larry because I happen to be like them personality wise. I'm neither a clown nor a circus, but the entire entertainment industry. So I guess it's just natural.
he’s great
moe's fantastic, he is genuinely my favorite non-recurring witness in the series and he's the character that really embodies the good of the case that i appreciate about it _(once you either forget or remove the really unfortunate love triangle thing)_
"That seems exceptionally annoying"
Oh, you just wait until we get to *that* case
Phoenix Wright: You are embarrassing max she's only 16 name is Regina!
Max: WHAT NO WAY SHE'S ONLY 16 GIRL OH MY GOD!!
Franziska Von Karma: only 16 year old some one child.
THE END!
honestly if i didnt have a walkthrough with me while playing AA2 it would've taken me so long to get through moe's testimony, esp since his testimony IS KIND OF VAGUE
the first time i got a game over was bc of his cross examination...
Remember:Phoenix liteary said that he wants to confess his love to regina too. And maya
And the judge
They censored a very gross lolicon joke in turnabout reunion but the same localizers just kinda….didn’t bother aging regina up despite that
Be me.
Has only 1 "HP" left at the start of the 2nd day of trial.
pain.
I get that the game was made in Japan where it's legal for girls to marry at 16 but why not just age the character up in localization?
That's what I was thinking. As an asian myself it's very common in the east so I didn't really notice the age difference being a problem tbh. For localization they really should have aged her up like 2 years it would've avoided criticism from the west
16? I thought Regina was 13. In all serious talk, her behavior wouldn't have made anyone thinking she will be 18.
It's still pretty weird and makes me not enjoy the case
16 is still legal in a lot of places. Like England, for instance. America is one of the only places that can criticise it for this.
@@kellyjohana516 Neither does Maya, but you don't see anybody complaining about that.
Oh yeah, this case...
The reason why it took me a year to finish Justice for All as I just didn't felt like picking the game back up once I stopped playing when I got to this part
Pretty well explained
So Game Grumps started playing this case i got impatient and literally bought the game to continue ahead of them. I tried to play fair i really did. But once i started "losing" because of Moe's presses and evidence that should work being penalized by the judge i said fuck it and went to a guide
How the fuck does an item we never find during the investigation become the murder weapon
When Moe is talking about a black cloak and saying he saw the witness i tried to present Max and his PURPLE cloak and its incorrect.
Acro says he saw a silhouettes yet during the investigation if you examine the light it says it was "off" during the murder.
So if IT WAS FUCKING OFF HOW DID A SHADOW GET CAST !? FUCK 😊
0:54 FBI OPEN UP!!!
THIS IS INCREDIBLE
Tfw they’re not even the biggest pedos in the game
his character sucks but I love max's design. that's it lol.
Turnabout Big Top? Isn't that just Edgeworth?
LMAO this whole case is so jumbled in my memory. I've gotta replay JFA
What could release Max from his legal guilt of liking Regina is the Ringmaster being willing to marry Regina off to Max, able to sign to have it done. So maybe Acro did some good in this case.
Turnabout Sloppy Top
Acro is honestly a pretty good character, too bad about everyone else lmao
oh my god you summed up 2 hours of suffering into 2 and a half minutes
Yeah the trick in this case was pretty bad, like what will happen if the cape not perfectly attached to the trophy? What will they say? And this conclusion happen after we got a clown that can't be pressed.
This case is bad for ppl in general, and terrible for ppl who have coulrophobia
...me
I think big top is a pretty solid case, there is just too much wrong on the surface for it to be properly appreciated and properly polished
I loved acro, the rest was highly questionable
This entire case was just...a lot.
You know what I'm shocked wasn't in the actual case? You know how Acro is always by birds, right? I was thinking maybe he was going to use the birds to lift the cape up, but I guess the bust works well too... Though that raises the question: why IS Acro so relatable with birds? Is that ever actually explained?
i think it's kind of to show how he's a very kind and gentle person to a point where animals tend to really like him, sort of like a disney princess thing ! 80
0:58
😟
1:33
EXCUSE ME?!
The case was horrible
I thought Max was doing a Hunter x Hunter cosplay. Guess it wasn’t a cosplay.
I had to take like, several breaks while playing this case. Like it took me a good month to get through it, I hated it so much. I want to watch Moe die and same with that rockstar groomer
I mean it is techincally legal in japan and all
but also this is hilarious
Jerking off to photos of horse autopsies is also technically legal, but still creepy af.
Moe the clown best character.
The case was good and I really liked acro but my god every other circus character were so fucking annoying especially that joker
Please tell me that the pedophiles actually get arrested.
*Spoiler*
Nope, the guy in the wheelchair was the culprit.
@@zlorf_youtube I knew the wheelchair guy was, the video stated it. But seriously? Man, Japan has got to take control of its pedophile problem.
Funny how besides Moe the one non pedophiIe gets SPOILERS
arrested (But he did try to kiII her)
Nope.
I like this case lol
still not as bad as 5-2, literally fucking made me want to put the game down
If I was in this trial I would say please don’t make max guilty because even if he is a pedophile he is still innocent of murder at the very least.
best ending we didnt get: "sure max is not guilty of murder but we're still fucking holding another trial for that whole 'trying to wed a teenager' problem"
@@glassphoenix9095 they're in japan (kind of), so it's legal and he's not considered a pedophile.
@@sloppyphart7879 but still. thats a 5 year age gap of a teenager and a young adult. what the fuck, game?
@@mynameskris it is a weird choice.
@@mynameskris Still better than Ben and Trilo
I hate knowing that Max was 21 and regina was at most 17 according to the wiki... i just hate it.
He is 25 according to the profiles, she is 16, Ben is in his 30’s and Bat is 22
@@MarcelMH15 No, the profile definitely says he's 21, not 25. Regina is indeed 16, she's only 17 in a later case. Ben is 31.
@@poudink5791 My b
Okay, but what three elements?
Where’s the punctuation 😭😭
Worst case
I love how almost nobody likes turnabout big top lmfao
the shittiest case in the entire series point blank
It's always either this or The Kidnapped Turnabout from Investigations.
@@Dudeman23rd wasn't the last case from the first investigations game notorious for being so unbearably long
@@Anonymous-mo7oe Ohhhhhhh man, you have NO idea. It's basically two cases presented as one, and the second half involves _stalling for time_ because your suspect refuses to testify.
@@Dudeman23rd that sounds so annoying good god 😭
@@Dudeman23rd the worst part is that the first half was actually pretty good and the culprit of that half should have been the main villain
At times like this I really get the feeling I should've looked in "Persons" side of Court Record more. Like... It didn't even occur to me she was 16 while I was playing this part, I though she was just dumb and clueless.
On a side note, Turnabout Big Top wasn't a bad case, imo. Those who complain about just haven't played "Turnabout Storyteller".
Oh my god is turnabout storyteller the rakugo one? Yeah that one felt like it was never going to end
I actually liked turnabout storyteller, its not a masterpiece and at least is short xd
The worst one for me is Turnabout Serenade