Dawson's Creek Full Reunion ft James Van Der Beek, Katie Holmes & More (2018) | Entertainment Weekly

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  • In 2018, Entertainment Weekly reunited the cast of 'Dawson's Creek' for the show’s 20th anniversary. Watch the full PeopleTV special to see James Van Der Beek, Katie Holmes, Joshua Jackson, Mary Beth Peil, Kerr Smith, Michelle Williams, Meredith Monroe and Busy Philipps and creator Kevin Williamson reminisce about Capeside, reveal who is Team Pacey vs Team Dawson, share where they think their characters would be today, and reflect on the iconic show’s series finale that aired on May 14, 2003.
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  • @aishaz6552
    @aishaz6552 2 роки тому +2954

    I feel like Pacey ruined us all. No boy could live up to the expectations we had because of Pacey lol

    • @mera8785
      @mera8785 2 роки тому +35

      100% agree

    • @hamnashariqqq
      @hamnashariqqq 2 роки тому +15

      love him

    • @MrMiike83
      @MrMiike83 2 роки тому +19

      What pacey did with getting with joey is a dog act for a friend to do..no respect for that but all great actor's

    • @lisad6643
      @lisad6643 2 роки тому +22

      Yes! I was about thirty-five years old and watching it with my teen daughters and I was in love with Pacey but at the same time thinking, I'm so glad I can't get my hands on him... It felt so wrong lol

    • @aishaz6552
      @aishaz6552 2 роки тому +4

      @@lisad6643 🤣

  • @vernelledouglas1801
    @vernelledouglas1801 3 роки тому +1972

    I swear the actress that played the grandmother has gotten younger. Good to see the cast.

    • @greenytaddict
      @greenytaddict 3 роки тому +42

      Just gorgeous right?

    • @rue80
      @rue80 3 роки тому +12

      I think we all got older so the agr diffetence between her and now doesn't seem so huge

    • @lynntorres9182
      @lynntorres9182 3 роки тому +6

      Beautiful!!

    • @nekaraynor4122
      @nekaraynor4122 3 роки тому +22

      I so agree, at 1st i was like to whom is this lady...OMG GRAMS!!!! She looks stunningly amazing!

    • @missydeyoreads
      @missydeyoreads 3 роки тому +27

      Well she was over a decade younger than her character was and they used makeup to age her accordingly, so now that she is as old as her character was supposed to be back then, she looks far more beautiful!

  • @mez4799
    @mez4799 3 роки тому +1436

    90’s had all the best tv shows. They don’t make them like this no more.

    • @maja1157
      @maja1157 3 роки тому +8

      @@paulhayhurst na, smallville was pretty badly written. bad lines, bad narratives, but the people potraying the characters were so pretty darn cute.

    • @shaygard7535
      @shaygard7535 3 роки тому +29

      The 90's had the best teen series absolutely!

    • @colonelgibbs8357
      @colonelgibbs8357 3 роки тому +9

      @@paulhayhurst tree hill was from 03 to 2012 but i agree

    • @roxi1st
      @roxi1st 3 роки тому +5

      @@paulhayhurst the oc got screwed up bc of the actress who played marissa who wanted to leave. Oth got worse and worse thoughout the seasons - the last 3 were unbearable. Idk...

    • @capsulamental
      @capsulamental 3 роки тому +5

      @@roxi1st well. . Rewatching Dawson's Creek I can't say all seasons are worth it, too, but each show got it's own charm and appeal

  • @louisegoldblatt8187
    @louisegoldblatt8187 3 роки тому +2555

    Pacey and Joey is the core of the show and why I watched it all the way through and again. Pacey is by far the best character!

    • @stormieskys651
      @stormieskys651 3 роки тому +14

      Agreed 👍

    • @jamesdarbyshire203
      @jamesdarbyshire203 3 роки тому +25

      Am I the only one who disagrees I love jen lol

    • @AshuSingh-mw2wt
      @AshuSingh-mw2wt 3 роки тому +47

      @@jamesdarbyshire203 well I love Pacey, Jen and Jack. They are my favorite. I wished there was more interaction between Pacey and Jen.

    • @Nolanoyayo
      @Nolanoyayo 3 роки тому +3

      They are all great characters.

    • @marcus8559
      @marcus8559 3 роки тому +22

      I watched it for them too. I really never liked Dawson, or his character.

  • @aMuenchGrinch
    @aMuenchGrinch 3 роки тому +2166

    Although I love Dawson's Creek, I always call it Pacey's Pond.

    • @MsDee409
      @MsDee409 3 роки тому +35

      😆😆😆 that's a good one!!

    • @MsNG82
      @MsNG82 3 роки тому +59

      1000000% agree. Team Pacey forever!

    • @michaela9981
      @michaela9981 3 роки тому +4

      🤣

    • @jamesdarbyshire203
      @jamesdarbyshire203 3 роки тому +14

      I hate pacey 🤣

    • @LadyFalcon17
      @LadyFalcon17 3 роки тому +51

      Yeah, I hate when a show is named after the most annoying/unlikeable character. Dawson is the WORST.

  • @robertadailacarling2525
    @robertadailacarling2525 3 роки тому +956

    Please no reboot. Leave it as is, in our memories and in our heart. 6 seasons of pure blist, innoncence and authenticity. wow. Forever a Joey and Pacey fan.

    • @hotelierid9029
      @hotelierid9029 3 роки тому +17

      Agree. It is very relevant with the setting back then, and the chemistry seems so genuinely good.

    • @ef3405
      @ef3405 3 роки тому +8

      @@hotelierid9029 I’ve never watched it but I could see a reunion episode/movie to see where the characters are

    • @vickyrobosa8716
      @vickyrobosa8716 3 роки тому +4

      Me too....

    • @cassandrapersaud8165
      @cassandrapersaud8165 3 роки тому +1

      Is the return to cape side preview real?

    • @chrisbrookes7422
      @chrisbrookes7422 3 роки тому

      @@cassandrapersaud8165 no fàn made.

  • @briaquinlan9497
    @briaquinlan9497 3 роки тому +594

    Can we just discuss that Mary Beth Peil is 80.... 80! She's gorgeous!

  • @rachelle9588
    @rachelle9588 3 роки тому +1671

    Even to this day, Katie Holmes has more chemistry and connection with Joshua Jackson. Frankly, it was hard to watch Dawson in any romantic relationship because they painted him as so self-centered that all characters were constantly afraid of hurting. The ending was the right decision. Magical!

    • @az21bob666
      @az21bob666 3 роки тому +26

      are you crazy they never cared about hurting dawson if they did they would have told him the truth.

    • @tianam.964
      @tianam.964 3 роки тому +76

      @@az21bob666 No, they were AFRAID to tell him because they knew he would blow up on them, which he did. He would have blown up on them regardless of when they told him. Dawson was a terrible friend.

    • @az21bob666
      @az21bob666 3 роки тому +20

      he would have been fine, they were not afraid they know it would hurt him but that different but they were coward and they were the bad freind.
      dawson would never do that, he told pacey about his sister, proven once again he a better freind. and what pacey did was worse he then talk mad shit about dawson and then tried to set his sister up with her EX cheating boyfreind.

    • @slvrangel22
      @slvrangel22 3 роки тому +41

      @@az21bob666 Dawson would have been hurt and upset regardless because he loved Joey and Pacey was his best friend.
      However, Pacey should have talked with him before he even pursued Joey. He did this in season 1 at that carnival when Dawson wasn't even into Joey yet. Yet when it actually mattered to discuss it with him because him and Joey not only dated at that point but had dated fairly recently, Pacey who normally has balls doesn't. Even after his brother tells him to do this.
      Everyone acts like Dawson was a dick in how he handled it but he had seriously matured at this point. And people excuse Pacey's choice because they like Joey and Pacey together.
      Yet Pacey sleeps with a teacher. He gets a pass.
      Pacey is told by Andy her fantasy for losing her virginity, he wastes no time executing it, and when they finally do it writes her a note about it, and he gets a pass.
      Pacey goes after his best friend's ex (a major ex) and he gets a pass.
      Pacey is a dick to Joey at prom. He gets a pass.
      Pacey sleeps with married woman. He gets a pass.
      Dawson's screws up, he is a spoiled and immature brat.
      Dawson was immature when he dated Jen. After that he did mature. He had a few bratty moments, but overall matured. Watch it again. Joey was the immature one all along. Total nightmare to Jen. She finally gets Dawson then does a 180 on him. He gets really mad and upset about his mom for cheating on his father and Joey ridicules him for it. Uhmm really? The boy had every right to be upset. She dates Jack. Then crawls back to Dawson. Her dad screws up and Dawson gets blamed. Dawson starts looking at Eve and Joey can't stand Dawson isn't paying attention to her again so she throws herself at him.
      I like Pacey and Joey together. Dawson deserved better than Joey who was nothing but manipulative towards him.
      I always say, "you can't help who you fall for, but you can help what you do about it."
      Joey and Pacey spent a lot of time together so I don't blame them for falling for one another. They couldn't help that.
      How they handled it... regardless of how people think Dawson would have reacted was still wrong.

    • @az21bob666
      @az21bob666 3 роки тому +21

      a few thinks, people forget that joey told dawson at the END of season 2 she never wanted to see him again then he back for a few days she never really tries to see him, ONLY when she see him with eve does she break into his room.
      he even tell her how hurt he is, he told pacey how hurt he is. but he still loves her.
      people also for get jen and pacey, they had a sex pact, pacey BREAK into dawson room to have sex with jen, NEVER told him.
      Then he find out pacey dating joey, again never tell him, and people act like dawson was in the wrong,
      to dawson since he does not see what see, he assume this is just pacey looking for sex or a fling.
      but dawson seem to get blame for everyone, on reddit a guy just said dawson a loser becouse he cried over joey. that sad that people think like that.
      ps i been downvoted like a 100 time for saying anything bad about pacey.

  • @mkp08706
    @mkp08706 2 роки тому +191

    The way Joshua Jackson looks at Katie Holmes when she talks is adorable.

    • @myJOJA
      @myJOJA 2 роки тому +3

      But het voice sounds the exact same

    • @ChrisWolff2013
      @ChrisWolff2013 Рік тому +2

      Katie is naturally adorable.

  • @coonhound98
    @coonhound98 3 роки тому +504

    So glad they didn’t cast Katherine Heigl over Michelle Williams. Michelle played Jen excellently!

    • @mollybloblue7891
      @mollybloblue7891 3 роки тому +9

      & Katherine was so amazing on Roseway that is was all win win. I just know she would have not chose to be on Roseway if she become our beloved Jen

    • @lauraannclark3971
      @lauraannclark3971 2 роки тому +7

      @@mollybloblue7891 It's Roswell

    • @lunalove9395
      @lunalove9395 2 роки тому +7

      Same. I have a feeling Katherine wouldn't have stayed for the whole show if she'd been cast.

    • @ambermullenax8186
      @ambermullenax8186 2 роки тому +8

      I love Michelle Williams as Jen! I couldn’t see anyone else playing her or any of the other characters!

    • @salvaje20
      @salvaje20 2 роки тому +4

      I'd prefer Heigl. Way hotter

  • @alicelucchesi5333
    @alicelucchesi5333 2 роки тому +836

    I loved this show so much! Sad that they didn't cover Andy's mental health struggles in the reunion because I think it was ahead of it's time with that storyline and Meredith played it so well I thought.

    • @k.c.8872
      @k.c.8872 2 роки тому +8

      I agree. I have suffered the same illness throughout my life.

    • @braveorslave
      @braveorslave 2 роки тому +1

      I think their portrayal of mental illness was very unrealistic, was she ever diagnosed? visual hallucinations are extremly rare

    • @book_wolf_1939
      @book_wolf_1939 2 роки тому +5

      @@braveorslave but they do happen, it's called a psychotic episode, I know someone who had it happen to them, not exactly liked that but ya know, also she took pills and went to a mental facility so yeah, I think she had a diagnosis, coz those are hard to come by without one.

    • @siracastori01
      @siracastori01 2 роки тому +2

      @@braveorslave That happened when she mixed her meds with some street drug {I don't remember what) Jen had tho, right? Some drugs can trigger psychotics episodes with visual and auditory hallucinations even if you don't have an underlying condition and are not on other meds, ask my clone I had a very pleasant conversation with in high school.
      Her dad and brother knew of her illness and she was on meds, so she was most likely diagnosed: some Freudian trained psychs/psychotherapists prefer to avoid giving the condition a name, as they consider it only an approximative tool for doctors and detrimental to the patient's journey, but that approach is not common in the States I believe.

    • @louisaamabel708
      @louisaamabel708 2 роки тому

      Agreed!

  • @hunnerdayEDT
    @hunnerdayEDT 3 роки тому +572

    Everyone aged so beautifully.

    • @josettedc703
      @josettedc703 3 роки тому +2

      agree

    • @simonfaulkner7731
      @simonfaulkner7731 3 роки тому +15

      Compared to those of the Friends cast, there is a huge difference in how they chose to age.

    • @movo721
      @movo721 3 роки тому +15

      @@simonfaulkner7731 just wait another 10-15 years, that’s about the age difference.

    • @davelyn786
      @davelyn786 3 роки тому +3

      It looks like katie got new teeth. 51:18. I don’t think she needed to.

    • @NataliaPedemonte
      @NataliaPedemonte 2 роки тому +3

      @@davelyn786 hollywood's obession with veneers, I dont get it

  • @lunalove9395
    @lunalove9395 2 роки тому +308

    I love that even James found Dawson annoying lol

  • @Precious_Diamondss
    @Precious_Diamondss 2 роки тому +269

    Everyone shipping Joey and Pacey meanwhile I’m appreciating Jack and Jen’s friendship. I wish she never died their relationship was the best of the show

  • @christy19802660123
    @christy19802660123 Рік тому +36

    Jack and Jen's friendship was the best . They are truly soulmates.

  • @ribee6193
    @ribee6193 3 роки тому +513

    The way Katie and Joshua looks at each other my gosh it makes me smile and excited 🤩😍🔥

    • @wolkevandenberghe5282
      @wolkevandenberghe5282 3 роки тому +5

      OMGodesses I'm melting, so cute

    • @wolkevandenberghe5282
      @wolkevandenberghe5282 3 роки тому +20

      52:55 Joshua's soft hand gesture on her back!!

    • @tbird4u1
      @tbird4u1 3 роки тому +39

      I feel like he never got over her lol. But maybe they just like each other in general. Great to see them being able to be friendly.

    • @ribee6193
      @ribee6193 3 роки тому +16

      For sure in JJ's heart Katie has a special spot in it. 🥰😍

    • @cmrwrite
      @cmrwrite 3 роки тому +72

      She should have married him instead of Tom Cruise.

  • @sxippydennison3577
    @sxippydennison3577 3 роки тому +517

    Aw, Michelle coming in and telling Kerr how meaningful their TV relationship was to fans, was just so endearing and amazing. I love how in spite of their myriad successes as actors, they still have that bond.

    • @avtgomez
      @avtgomez 2 роки тому +21

      It was the most authentic thing that came out in this interview

    • @ashleykelly9458
      @ashleykelly9458 2 роки тому +8

      @@avtgomez agree. When James called Dawson annoying right off the jump of the interview I thought well, this is awkward. They could have cut that one out.

    • @reesespieces8338
      @reesespieces8338 2 роки тому +1

      Timestamp?

    • @erikafaerie
      @erikafaerie 2 роки тому +12

      @@ashleykelly9458 actually I really loved that! I wanted to know what he thinks of his own character and I agree 😂

    • @destinychild4659
      @destinychild4659 Рік тому +3

      @@ashleykelly9458 I don't think that was awkward. They don't always have to like their characters.

  • @tebs1252
    @tebs1252 3 роки тому +257

    Joey's house was filmed where I lived. It was an exciting time on Pine in Wilmington. We moved into the back room while they turned the rest of the house into their set. Certainly a very special time in my life.

    • @Hecomesquickly7
      @Hecomesquickly7 3 роки тому +1

      Pretty Cool!

    • @2IzzyReelz
      @2IzzyReelz 3 роки тому +5

      Prove it.

    • @lizferrer524
      @lizferrer524 3 роки тому +1

      wao! que chevre!

    • @williamyelton2227
      @williamyelton2227 3 роки тому +4

      Grew up across the street in Windward Oaks ! Nostalgic memories

    • @tebs1252
      @tebs1252 3 роки тому +8

      @@williamyelton2227 yes for me too. I have followed "joey" all these years. Hard to believe so many years have passed by. Wilmington holds a special place in my heart. My husband and I took their little boat and motor and went up Dawson's creek sightseeing. So many good times. Now all is gone.

  • @cleanlivingwithcindi3055
    @cleanlivingwithcindi3055 3 роки тому +221

    Can we just talk about how AMAZING and glamorous Mary Beth Peil looks!

    • @ogabekshamsiddinov5511
      @ogabekshamsiddinov5511 3 роки тому

      .

    • @dirkdiggler.
      @dirkdiggler. 2 роки тому +1

      Shout out to her plastic surgeon

    • @sivc.29
      @sivc.29 2 роки тому

      I Loved her dress! It is not only beautiful, it suits her perfectly! In fact I was looking for a moment where I can see her in a full stand up view, but there isn't any 🥺

    • @stacyreed6798
      @stacyreed6798 2 роки тому

      Yessssss❤️❤️

    • @ericac.7252
      @ericac.7252 Рік тому

      Stunning! 😍

  • @adlf4237
    @adlf4237 3 роки тому +250

    Grams is so gorgeous 🥰👏👏👏

  • @Buckntydylan328
    @Buckntydylan328 3 роки тому +247

    Awww Joshua Jackson will forever be the love of my life, I loved this show. I taped every episode and til this day have all seasons in my dvd collection

    • @lizzybethnj617
      @lizzybethnj617 3 роки тому +8

      Had a crush on him since Mighty Ducks

    • @nagyszisz
      @nagyszisz 2 роки тому

      @@lizzybethnj617 Same here :D

    • @anansaclarke8942
      @anansaclarke8942 2 роки тому +1

      Preach.......love Pacey😘😘😘

  • @lumav7440
    @lumav7440 3 роки тому +155

    Why are reunion shows dominated by narrators instead of the actual actors reunioning....

    • @shae914
      @shae914 3 роки тому +3

      Exactly what I was just thinking!

    • @bowwow4893
      @bowwow4893 2 роки тому

      they kept pissing me off like we only needed to hear from kevin and the cast

  • @lmx7564
    @lmx7564 2 роки тому +46

    Just the way Josh is looking at Katie... oh my god, they were really each other's first love

  • @user-ul3hu5wp9w
    @user-ul3hu5wp9w 2 роки тому +166

    This show was so ahead of its time. Like keeping in mind that this show came out in the 90s, it did a very remarkable job covering issues that most media didn’t cover during this era.

    • @massilao
      @massilao 2 роки тому +1

      Totally agreed!

  • @user-jv7ig6ie5b
    @user-jv7ig6ie5b 3 роки тому +364

    Jack's storyline prompted me to come out to my parents and suddenly a massive weight I hadn't realised I'd been carrying was lifted and none of the horrors I'd convinced myself would happen if I admitted who I was to myself and those closest to me happened. I could finally breathe and feel comfortable in my own skin. Thank you, Jack.

    • @ro143cky
      @ro143cky 3 роки тому +4

      That’s so beautiful

    • @tiffanyking576
      @tiffanyking576 3 роки тому +1

    • @meems4378
      @meems4378 2 роки тому +8

      I always wonder how many stories like this are out there (thank God they are) because of movies and TV. Actors playing LGBTQ youth especially have such a responsibility that may be unfair, but is totally necessary especially 10-20 years ago.
      I think about how often straight kids are reinforced that they are "right" they are "correct" and we are just now getting to a place we're characters are just people, who happen to be gay vs a "gay character". Hope that makes sense.
      Love to see this story.
      Love to see it helped. Love to see people loving their best life.

  • @caribbeangoddess16
    @caribbeangoddess16 2 роки тому +296

    I just watched Dawson's Creek on Netflix and I finished it yesterday. Holy cow I was missing out on such an amazing show back then! All the characters were so true & I absolutely cried like a baby on the two part series finale, LOVE it!

    • @yorkielover2676
      @yorkielover2676 2 роки тому +9

      I just finished.. happy with Joey and pacey. Sad about jen tho

    • @caribbeangoddess16
      @caribbeangoddess16 2 роки тому +2

      @@yorkielover2676 Omg, I cried like a baby!

    • @kirra7406
      @kirra7406 2 роки тому +5

      Yes, I just finished it as well during lockdown. I was both surprised and delighted on how good it was.

    • @caribbeangoddess16
      @caribbeangoddess16 2 роки тому +3

      @@kirra7406 Me too, I loved Pacey!!

    • @fastfoxxx88
      @fastfoxxx88 2 роки тому +2

      Same I realised how good it was and started a month ago. I’m up to season 3 and I’m loving it!

  • @jasminenicoleellis
    @jasminenicoleellis 2 роки тому +94

    I remember wanting Dawson and Joey to be together more than anything. I disregarded everyone else and only focused on them two finally dating. But then out of nowhere Pacey kissed Joey and I was like... why don't I hate this 💀 and then I remember falling in love with Pacey instantly 😂

  • @undead.rising
    @undead.rising 3 роки тому +188

    I love how it was a running joke for the entire series run that Doug, Pacey's older brother, was closeted - and finally in the last ever 2 part finale, it was confirmed that he was gay because he and Jack were in a relationship. I loved that!

  • @katepotter9626
    @katepotter9626 3 роки тому +124

    pacey is my absolute FAVORITE!! i was so excited when him and joey were together in the end

  • @TheReCar1
    @TheReCar1 3 роки тому +133

    I just found this series a few months ago and I fell in love with the cast. I binged watched all six seasons on Netflix. 😍 20 years later they still look good. Shout out Grams she is slaying 😍😍

    • @ambermullenax8186
      @ambermullenax8186 2 роки тому +2

      Welcome to the creek! It was such a HUGE part of my childhood! Still love this movie!

    • @TheReCar1
      @TheReCar1 2 роки тому

      @@ambermullenax8186 Oh Gee thanks lol

    • @Travisharger
      @Travisharger 2 роки тому +1

      I’m glad to here that people are still finding this show.

    • @psychedelicate
      @psychedelicate Рік тому

      grams is the best!

    • @TheReCar1
      @TheReCar1 Рік тому

      @@psychedelicate Yes! She is my favorite 🤩

  • @keelahrose
    @keelahrose 3 роки тому +74

    Mary Beth Peil looks utterly ethereal. If I live that long, I hope I age even half as gracefully as she has. Easily the most gorgeous one in that room.

  • @herm712
    @herm712 3 роки тому +75

    Season 3 was A-MAZING and is still my favorite--that whole storyline with Joey and Pacey was so well-written and their chemistry was insane. I was ecstatic when Joey and Pacey got together and I was livid when they broke up at the end of season 4. I stopped watching the show, lol. Oddly enough that's when the ratings dipped. Coincidence? Who knows, lol. I've seen a few episodes from those seasons (namely the episodes with Joey and Pacey) but for the most part I quit watching until the series finale. At the end when you see she's with Pacey I literally screamed! I was SO happy. Dawson was her soulmate but Pacey was her true love 💖💖💖

  • @MrAllysonn
    @MrAllysonn 2 роки тому +48

    Of course pacey & joey are the greatest couple. But I must admit I LOVED the connection between andie & pacey. They both were incredible.

    • @psa921416
      @psa921416 2 роки тому

      Pacey was the ultimate ride or die guy

  • @vickyrichter1670
    @vickyrichter1670 2 роки тому +34

    I watched the whole series and waited with held breath to see who Joey would end up with on the final episode. Being a Pacey Fan, I was hoping it would be Pacey and when it was....I screamed and smiled and cried! Now, all this time later, when I go back into Hulu or pull out my DVD collection of Dawson's Creek, I always go to seasons 3. When I am wanting to feel true love scripted into the perfect words, I go to the final episode with Pacey and Joey in his restaurant kitchen and him telling her he was releasing her and that loving her was enough. Omg! Perfection!! Thank you Kevin for giving us Pacey and showing the world what a perfect man, with all his imperfections, looked like! ❤

  • @tanjarain
    @tanjarain 3 роки тому +26

    Joshua Jackson a.k.a pacey will be always my first love in this show i’m glad joey and Pacey end up together.😍😍

  • @ErikaLM10
    @ErikaLM10 3 роки тому +159

    I finally decided to move on from this show, then this gets uploaded

  • @amandaredd3057
    @amandaredd3057 3 роки тому +95

    I was proud of Dawson when he finally pushed Joey towards Pacey - very mature despite the quip about knowing it would be a "colossal mistake "
    I always have thought and said that Dawson is Joey's soulmate but Pacey is the love of her life ❤

    • @mollybloblue7891
      @mollybloblue7891 3 роки тому +2

      Dawson is not her soulmate. She shatered him, Joey was super toxic as friend or lover with both Dawson and Peacy. I'm glad my man ended happy but Joey was terrible

    • @giuliapicchiotti
      @giuliapicchiotti 2 роки тому +2

      @@mollybloblue7891 But he is, they say it in the last episode !!!

    • @marquishajerry1126
      @marquishajerry1126 2 роки тому +1

      @@mollybloblue7891 I'm just now watching it again and Joey was a player, and she really was playing games with my man Dawson. I was a Dawson Fan from the beginning with him and Joey; until I fell to realize how she started playing games man🤦🏾‍♀️☹️. I'm starting to want to change my vote for Pacey now, but I don't know with Joey though just wanting to be just a Pacey fan 🤔🤨😊, by himself. What's funny is that Joshua is now, in real life is with this beautiful black African American woman with a baby girl now(whose do cute, and mixed, but still cute)👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾, good for you Joshua Jackson, I'm proud of you.

    • @marquishajerry1126
      @marquishajerry1126 2 роки тому

      👍🏾🤔🤨😊.

    • @marquishajerry1126
      @marquishajerry1126 2 роки тому

      @@mollybloblue7891 I disagree with your beginning mark, but the end of your comment huh🤷🏾‍♀️🤔?

  • @izzybroccoli7879
    @izzybroccoli7879 2 роки тому +18

    just finished watching the show for the first time and I cannot even begin to explain how happy I am that Joey ended up with Pacey

  • @theguy8665
    @theguy8665 3 роки тому +72

    How time flies..This show was and will always be the ultimate "coming of age" show of the 90's..👌🏾💯

  • @fantasyk87
    @fantasyk87 3 роки тому +63

    I didn't really follow the show when it aired, just watched the re-runs of it years later and Joey & Pacey were always going to be 'it' for me, they were perfect together -and honestly Dawson and Joey didn't have that kind of chemistry. Jen & Jack were my second favorite, their bond was something wonderful that I loved (and yes, I bawled my eyes out in the last episode and I still do).
    Btw, Joshua Jackson is still looking mighty fine as he was back in the days!

  • @rahshaddawson4659
    @rahshaddawson4659 3 роки тому +36

    The first 4 seasons of Dawson’s Creek might be the best show of all time. I learned how to articulate myself from Dawson. Learned to be attentive to women from Pacey. I got into Pop music because of this show. My bro’s got a kick out of me loving this show so much, but i honestly learned a lot from it. Classic.

    • @524111
      @524111 2 роки тому +1

      Me to man, I used to be so bored during summer break in my 8 to 14 age and this show I would always see on, I got hooked instantly and what a great show it was

    • @starlodear2987
      @starlodear2987 2 роки тому

      Season 4 finale was perfect. It should have ended there.

  • @Keckan
    @Keckan 2 роки тому +79

    I would have loved to see more of the Joey and Jen friendship. It felt like it was always this fight over Dawson but I think they’re friendship could have been Moore explored. Love the show. Such memories ❤️

    • @CourageousDreamerAllon4journey
      @CourageousDreamerAllon4journey 2 роки тому

      I agree!

    • @aliceeve6421
      @aliceeve6421 2 роки тому +3

      I've researched it and I think the friendship really bloomed from late season 4 to early season 5 before the whole charlie thing

  • @louisaknight7928
    @louisaknight7928 3 роки тому +42

    'Dawson's Creek' is like a favourite book; I watch it all every few years - takes me about two or three months - and every time I fall in love with it all over again. It feeds my soul; I always come away with a new perspective on the show and ultimately my own life and the world. Last watch was about 2017. Almost due another showing. 🌟💜

  • @DrFroyd123
    @DrFroyd123 3 роки тому +51

    I was so mad when Joey broke up with Pacey the first time! Dawson as a character started great, but lost its greatness during the seasons. I was so into Pacey, I even started wearing his short pants (bermudas). Katie Holmes was so beautiful, watching her as Joey makes my heart tick even now, twenty years later. Thanks EW for this video and the dose of nostalgia, for days long gone

    • @Precious_Diamondss
      @Precious_Diamondss 2 роки тому +4

      Didn’t he dump her first tho cause he thought she wasn’t good enough for him and even though she tried to tell him that she loved him he kept pushing her away???

    • @destinychild4659
      @destinychild4659 2 роки тому

      @@Precious_Diamondss Pacey dumped Joey, because of his insecutities. And thought Joey deserved better than him.

  • @TheGloriaSophia
    @TheGloriaSophia Рік тому +5

    This was in 2017. Joshua wasn't involved with his wife yet. Just look at his face, body language, etc. The connection him and Katie still share is mesmerizing. Their characters were endgame. And, I deep down still have some tiny hope one day they'll be together again.

  • @jdpopayan9140
    @jdpopayan9140 3 роки тому +23

    They all look great. Michelle is so classy and compose. She is gorgeous.

  • @Daisymerollingg
    @Daisymerollingg 3 роки тому +99

    we need more shows like this!! this show helped to shape me into who I am today ! they talk about so many life obstacles..such a wholesome show !!

  • @yokaigypsy
    @yokaigypsy 3 роки тому +19

    Wow! Jen's grandma looks younger. It's cool to see that she's still alive and smiling.

  • @noni5961
    @noni5961 3 роки тому +47

    It’s always funny that the actors are so much older than their characters.

    • @nenabunena
      @nenabunena 3 роки тому +5

      they played 15 and holmes was 18 while williams was16, not so far off

    • @vicky-ee1ie
      @vicky-ee1ie 3 роки тому +4

      @@nenabunenameredith was 29 and kerr was 26

    • @nenabunena
      @nenabunena 3 роки тому +3

      @@vicky-ee1ie yeah those 2 were way older

  • @queenredfromthequeencity
    @queenredfromthequeencity 3 роки тому +221

    I knew it was going to be Pacey, first off she lost her virginity to him, secondly she chose him the first time there was a choice even when she thought she would lose Dawson. Also Pacey never put boundaries or expectations on her that were based of a figment of his imagination

    • @az21bob666
      @az21bob666 3 роки тому +2

      no she was willing to lose pacey to keep dawson friendship, so that is just not true.
      and pacey put a lot of boundaries on her. he was alwasy jealous.

    • @slvrangel22
      @slvrangel22 3 роки тому +23

      Her and Dawson were toxic together and if you rewatch, it's more her than Dawson that makes it that way.
      She pines over Dawson, meanwhile insulting and degrading him for being in a relationship with Jen. And we all know how she repeatedly treated Jen.
      Then Dawson finally "sees her" and she constantly critiques everything she says. He calls her new interest a hobby and she lashes out like he should know that something she never expressed interest in before is more than a hobby. He makes effort constantly and she pushes back. Then breaks up with him. He is not allowed to screw up. He is never allowed to be upset. In Season 1 he learns his mom is cheating and she makes him feel like sh*t for being upset at his mom.
      They get back together at the end of Season 2 and her dad screws up, Dawson is somehow the bad guy. She is awful towards him.
      He leaves town, comes back, starts paying attention to Eve and now Joey is throwing herself at him. He turns her down and again is made to be the bad guy. She is in a vulnerable state so he asks Pacey to keep an eye out for her because he can't. Which the way she treats him, he was right.
      Pacey knows what Joey means to Dawson and she knows. Yet instead of being up front with Dawson like any good friend should have been they choose not. Yes he would have still been hurt, but he couldn't have felt so betrayed. And he has a right to be hurt and angry. But once again Dawson is made to be the bad guy because Joey and Pacey screwed up.
      Dawson has some moments that are irritable. But if you go back and watch Joey has a lot to do with it. And she is actually pretty awful.
      As for Pacey... he makes some pretty crappy choices.
      Sleeps with teacher.
      Bullies brother for being gay.
      Calls Dawson an Oompa Loompa even after Dawson tells him how those words make him feel. Yet somehow it gets turned around on Dawson for being a jerk. He isn't allowed to have insecurities.
      He goes to a dance with Andy, refuses to dance with her then ends up dancing with someone else.
      Andy tells him her fantasy for losing her virginity and he immediately makes arrangements.
      Throws a party with dancers at Dawson's house.
      Encourages Dawson to get some with Eve.
      Treats Joey like trash at prom.
      Sleeps with married woman.
      Yet for whatever reason people always throw Dawson shade and put Joey and Pacey on pedestals.

    • @az21bob666
      @az21bob666 3 роки тому +6

      yep i agree pacey mess up so much, what said about the andy thing is not that he tries to sleep with her, his note sex changes everything
      look if you sleep with a girl and it first time, i hope you at least planning to be there for her, he fight with joey more after he sleep with her to.
      BUT dawson is to blame for everything, it like how onfair is that.
      sometime joey like i dont want dawson but i dont want anyone else to have it.

    • @toniakande5510
      @toniakande5510 3 роки тому

      THIS

    • @mollybloblue7891
      @mollybloblue7891 3 роки тому +2

      @@slvrangel22 joey was worst character of the teens for me

  • @jennifergrady5972
    @jennifergrady5972 2 роки тому +8

    I absolutely love the way Joshua Jackson still looks at Katie Holmes. 😍

  • @lorenhil2448
    @lorenhil2448 3 роки тому +44

    Everytime I watch Dawson's Creek, it's like I'm on holidays. It makes me feel so peaceful and my heart gets full. I was only 8 when I first watched this show, best time of my life ♥️

    • @goffredobassano3641
      @goffredobassano3641 Рік тому +1

      Really happy to see that people under 40 YO love it!

    • @lorenhil2448
      @lorenhil2448 Рік тому +1

      @@goffredobassano3641 of course! Even though I don't remember it very well, when I hear the music from the show, it gives me goosebumps every time. The mind remembers everything

    • @goffredobassano3641
      @goffredobassano3641 Рік тому +1

      @@lorenhil2448 watch the show again as soon as you can. You'll love it even more. :)

    • @lorenhil2448
      @lorenhil2448 Рік тому +1

      @@goffredobassano3641 I've watched it last year and I felt weird when it was finished, like part of my life has come to an end😂 but I'm already thinking about rewatching it, I'm afraid it will turn into my comfort show ❤

    • @goffredobassano3641
      @goffredobassano3641 Рік тому +1

      @@lorenhil2448 my feelings when I watched it again last year was that I've found a part of me I don't want to lose anymore. And yes, it is my confort show and I love this feeling. ❤️

  • @lakshminjalan1318
    @lakshminjalan1318 3 роки тому +40

    Grams is so beautiful

  • @Bekka_boo13
    @Bekka_boo13 3 роки тому +24

    i was 13 when this aired & was 19 when it finished...I grew up with Dawson's creek, I loved it & still do... still cry when i see the ending...This show will always hold a special place in my heart

  • @nannybebe74
    @nannybebe74 3 роки тому +37

    Michelle Williams will forever be one of my favourite actresses.

  • @Boelle.
    @Boelle. 3 роки тому +30

    They all look great, especially Jen’s grandma, wow!!!

    • @tiffanyelainestubbsfarrull2204
      @tiffanyelainestubbsfarrull2204 3 роки тому +1

      Grandma lol. Grams

    • @Boelle.
      @Boelle. 3 роки тому +1

      @@tiffanyelainestubbsfarrull2204 yes let me correct that. I respect this show way too much. It’s my childhood.

  • @PixieLavender
    @PixieLavender 3 роки тому +85

    Is it me or did anyone feel underwhelmed by this? I thought it was going to be the cast talking a majority of the time but that part was minor. It was similar to a True E Hollywood story like documentary lol

    • @sakura121094
      @sakura121094 3 роки тому +7

      I wanted them to talk more :(

    • @Belfastboi
      @Belfastboi 2 роки тому +1

      @@sakura121094 or the friends one

    • @marquishajerry1126
      @marquishajerry1126 2 роки тому

      Thanks for letting me know before I watched it🤷🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤔.

  • @claramerchant9210
    @claramerchant9210 3 роки тому +13

    The characters of Dawson, joey and pacey were played impectably Its as if they were those characters The rest were icing on the cake

  • @natalyaporter5730
    @natalyaporter5730 2 роки тому +26

    "season 3 was the first time we saw a glimmer of chemistry between Pacey and Joey"
    me: no! The first time was in the first episode! Enemies to lovers, duh!

    • @kunalverma6212
      @kunalverma6212 2 роки тому

      Chemistry was there in first season itself.

  • @Rickenlily
    @Rickenlily 3 роки тому +16

    I will love this show forever. This and 90210 will never grow old.

  • @ArtjomsMind
    @ArtjomsMind 2 роки тому +20

    They were the kindest and most down-to-earth teens I "knew" back then. The interview showed me exactly why it makes sense that I adored the show in my teens. They were my Creek... in a place with little light. THANK YOU, creators.

    • @renevanderwesthuizen1520
      @renevanderwesthuizen1520 Рік тому +1

      They are sweet and the characters too. But I can't help but laugh when I think of Cat's dad in 10 things I hate about you, saying that he doesn't want his daughter to turn out like one of those Creek kids WAHAHAHAHA.

  • @garethibay2864
    @garethibay2864 3 роки тому +11

    My childhood couldn't have existed without this show. Cue me and my friends Wednesday night, on the phone, with our electronic pocket dictionaries, and talking like college freshmans from the Creek the next day with our $20 words at recess. great memories!

  • @erikadlloyd5586
    @erikadlloyd5586 3 роки тому +43

    I really loved Dawson's creek right with Buffy the Vampire slayer.

  • @kari6231
    @kari6231 2 роки тому +11

    I was in love with Pacey. He was the best cast member for sure. His personality was amazing! 😊😍

  • @Danybella
    @Danybella 3 роки тому +45

    The stylist did a great job with all of them!

    • @Belfastboi
      @Belfastboi 2 роки тому

      I think it’s over done. They don’t look comfortable

    • @reynaldiplg
      @reynaldiplg 2 роки тому

      Totally agree, al look gorgeous with beautiful clothing and styling….

  • @carlb7855
    @carlb7855 3 роки тому +255

    I miss when Katie Holmes was the adorable girl next door every teenage boy loved. And then Tom Cruise happened...

    • @renka99
      @renka99 3 роки тому +102

      I feel like a huge chunk of her life was lost when she married him. She was at her prime and who knows what work she could have gotten if she wasn’t busy being Mrs Tom Cruise stepford wife. Even in the group interview, she comes off kind of robotic and insecure. Sad…

    • @doublefeature
      @doublefeature 3 роки тому +16

      i will never get over the pure disappointment i felt when i found this out. i was so in love with her and i just couldn't believe she married him.

    • @doublefeature
      @doublefeature 3 роки тому +2

      @@Jaiem_ wut

    • @WhatAboutall
      @WhatAboutall 3 роки тому +10

      Yeah, poor her, she's getting taken care of for the rest of her life.

    • @siobanethier
      @siobanethier 3 роки тому +6

      Did you know that Katie wrote in her diary that she wanted to marry Tom Cruise?! She said that on the famous couch jumping episode of Oprah.

  • @jonathanhughes8679
    @jonathanhughes8679 3 роки тому +14

    I remember James at 15. Dang I have not thought of that in forever. Joshua is a good actor and really imo made the show. He was great in Fringe too. Jen’s story was just so heartbreaking and really is truly a bittersweet story. The show just breaks your heart with that. Grams was truly a wonderful character. She also gave that group a good grounding to grow up.

  • @laurens.7510
    @laurens.7510 2 роки тому +5

    The ENTIRE crew aged the best of any I have seen!! Additionally, this show was everything!

  • @elliesapphire6823
    @elliesapphire6823 3 роки тому +6

    My mum actually shown me this show when I was about 13-14 myself in 2014. I was so in love with it even then and was so happy that my mum introduced me to such an old treasure

  • @tbird4u1
    @tbird4u1 3 роки тому +326

    Thank god it didn’t end with Joey and Dawson. Pacey deserved the ending he got. Throughout the series he loved Joey like crazy, even back to season 1. And he went through hell and back with his family, with Joey, and with feeling empty in his life. Dawson never seemed to care for her the way he did. Although he did love her but I always felt like it was more of a friend bond. Plus Katie and Josh’s chemistry helped propel that relationship.

    • @karismalovesglitter
      @karismalovesglitter 3 роки тому +10

      Even as friends he cared about her so much 🧡

    • @ClauEyT7
      @ClauEyT7 3 роки тому +6

      Yes! I think at the begining they where so younge so they didnt knew that kind of strong love was a friends love, so that confuse dawson and joey to the point they thought they were in love when they didnt

    • @tinaomara4387
      @tinaomara4387 3 роки тому

      11

    • @jenniferwhite2945
      @jenniferwhite2945 3 роки тому +11

      Katie and Josh dated in real life in the earlier seasons of the show. There was a true chemistry there.

    • @tbird4u1
      @tbird4u1 3 роки тому +11

      @@karismalovesglitter yes! And the fact that when they broke up or she was going in a different direction he didn’t pull the crap Dawson always did (getting angry, kicking the ladder off his roof, resorting to “competition” tendencies, and giving her ultimatums) instead he stayed supportive and rational and pushed her to be the best person she could. And he also accepted that she should be happy... no matter who it was with. That was important to him. He always put her first, and it was completely selfless. That’s why he was always better.

  • @smilesam
    @smilesam 3 роки тому +40

    I love that EW does these reunions. They've done this with a number of shows I've loved and I always enjoy both the pictures and the interviews. it's just nice to see old friends again.

  • @teamcabs161
    @teamcabs161 3 роки тому +12

    I love Dawson's Creek. Thank you so much for making this reunion. It feels just like yesterday.

  • @patriciajones4343
    @patriciajones4343 2 роки тому +8

    Joshua Jackson is my absolute favorite, perfection 😍❤🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @wilson-omusodaniella4404
    @wilson-omusodaniella4404 2 роки тому +9

    Watching the show again on Netflix and stunned by how many great actors made their debut on the show, amazing!!! I am so happy to see grams, she evolved in the best ways.

  • @gavinkaufmanworld
    @gavinkaufmanworld 2 роки тому +17

    Brings back sooooo many great memories of my teen years!! "I don't wanna wait, for our lives to be over" 😌❤️

  • @VLVR4
    @VLVR4 3 роки тому +17

    Thanks for the stroll down memory lane, EW 💜 I was 15 years old when that show came out and I felt like it was telling my story- I was Joey, through and through! This put a huge smile on my face just reminiscing about my teenage years and how Dawson’s Creek helped me get through some of the most awkward years of my life 😊

  • @ciaralewis5397
    @ciaralewis5397 3 роки тому +19

    Finally, the whole interview.

  • @Nehmi
    @Nehmi 3 роки тому +13

    I was a college freshman when Dawson's Creek premiered. Jack's coming out was groundbreaking, moving, shocking, and real. All us boys who were gay and who hid it really connected with Jack. It was such an impactful moment. I had never seen that on screen.

  • @SparkIeMotion
    @SparkIeMotion 2 роки тому +1

    It's so awesome to see this whole show online. Thank you.

  • @TeacherJupith
    @TeacherJupith 3 роки тому +8

    My childhood memories. I always watched this every monday. This makes my teenager life excited.

  • @bitokay147
    @bitokay147 3 роки тому +18

    The creators story is awesome, love to see people make their dreams come true especially when you come from a struggle, so inspiring.

  • @alexxisdelapena24
    @alexxisdelapena24 2 роки тому +7

    I remember my mom watching this when I was a kid. Once it was on Netflix I watched and got hooked. I keep rewatching it. It’s my comfort show 🤍

  • @Atheena83
    @Atheena83 3 роки тому +4

    OMG!! Thanx for this interview, so many memories...I'm back 23 years ago when I was 15 🥰 Love this serial and casts, real teens problems 😁 So...now I must see this again...awaits me several-day Dawson's creek free-online marathon.

  • @thejester8136
    @thejester8136 2 роки тому +8

    Katie Holmes is still to this day one of my Biggest Crushes, she’s just beautiful and her mannerisms are so cute. Loved her back then and still do now

  • @yoan6070
    @yoan6070 3 роки тому +14

    They're all still look gorgeous

    • @n.d.ez.z.z8676
      @n.d.ez.z.z8676 3 роки тому

      Money talks 🤘😁

    • @kari6231
      @kari6231 2 роки тому

      They truly do. You can tell they have a healthy lifestyle. I love it! ❤

  • @wilson-omusodaniella4404
    @wilson-omusodaniella4404 2 роки тому +4

    The 90s and early 2000 had the best shows, no doubt. All my fave shows are from that era, organic storyline, authentic and they all had depth.

  • @karabellaellaellaella
    @karabellaellaellaella 2 роки тому

    I recently just rewatched it from the beginning til end after 20 years and I'm so glad I did. It healed a part of me. Thank you.

  • @cpk7866
    @cpk7866 3 роки тому +2

    This show raised me. Good times and good memories in my own life.

  • @amandaredd3057
    @amandaredd3057 3 роки тому +17

    I never really noticed it before but I can actually see a lot of Kevin Williamson in Kerr Smith! Even physically... well, in Jack - dang it, you know what I mean!!

  • @lifeonabudget8513
    @lifeonabudget8513 3 роки тому +16

    Jen's Grandmother looks fabulous!

  • @heatherwinfree7227
    @heatherwinfree7227 3 роки тому +2

    I have owned the entire season for years and I can’t count how many times I have watched it!!! It was amazing!

  • @matthewf5668
    @matthewf5668 3 роки тому +163

    This wasn't just a show, it was THE show of the late 90s. Completely era-defining. Glad this is finally released in its entirety instead of a few 2 minute clips.
    HOWEVER....... Everyone should also watch Mary-Margaret Humes (Gale, Dawson's mom) interview AFTER this aired originally, where she explains her feelings about her and Dawson's dad NOT being call to do this reunion. That's just weird. They were an integral part of the series.

    • @autumnleaves-77
      @autumnleaves-77 3 роки тому +14

      Wonder why Dawson's parents were not included? The reunion didn't seem complete without them. It would have been great to see the whole original cast there from the first two seasons.

    • @matthewf5668
      @matthewf5668 3 роки тому +5

      @@autumnleaves-77 My only guess would be that after the contentious way the dad left the show (apparently he was at an impasse with the writers about his storyline for Season 5), the team didn't want to have him be a part of it, and then by extension the mom can't either.

    • @autumnleaves-77
      @autumnleaves-77 3 роки тому +14

      @@matthewf5668 Yes that seems to be the logical answer. I didn't like the storyline where Mitch has the car accident, it seemed to be a quick exit for that character. But the following episode where he comes back to say goodbye to each of the characters was delightful.

    • @matthewf5668
      @matthewf5668 3 роки тому +2

      @@autumnleaves-77 I too loved the episode of his goodbyes

    • @destinychild4659
      @destinychild4659 2 роки тому +3

      Audrey was not at all important character. Dawson's parents were much more important characters that should have been there, unlike Audrey...

  • @emilyw1180
    @emilyw1180 3 роки тому +5

    Finally the full thing! THANK YOU!

  • @bradb9370
    @bradb9370 2 роки тому +3

    I love this show. I watched it when I was a teenager and re-watched it again last year. It was even better than what I remembered. The fantastic acting makes you so attached to the characters. I love that it was filmed in Wilmington which is only 45min from where I am from(Surf City). My wife and I went and explored the filming locations last year as I was watching the show. I was overwhelmed with a sadness when I finished the show because of the realization that the period in time depicted is no more. This show is such a staple of the late 90's early 2000's.

  • @bellareid3488
    @bellareid3488 3 роки тому

    I still have Dawson's Creek DVD boxset. Started watching originally at age 17. I watched the last episode 6 years later in my own apartment. I still remember it, it felt so weird, like I'd grown up with them. I still binge watch it from time to time. I love it so much

  • @matthewrider5906
    @matthewrider5906 2 роки тому +1

    I had a girl in high school, when I arrived as the new kid... She adored me, & this show. And I adored rock n roll, & her best friend. And now, she's extraordinarily successful, ironically enough, in North Carolina. And while my life took some very dramatic & unwanted turns, like losing my 'Missus' in a car accident, or becoming addicted to opioids... Today, I'm sober. I'm working through the loss of my Sarah, & for the first time in a long time... Things are looking up again. And back when I actually watched this show in my mid-20s, because I was in love w/Katie Holmes, it was actually a very well done show. I see why she loved it. I hope she's doing well.

  • @funkycoMedina
    @funkycoMedina 2 роки тому +5

    I love Andy, do you notice that almost every character meshes with their individual personalities

  • @thisismyinferno
    @thisismyinferno 2 роки тому +5

    Joey and Pacey were everything ❤

  • @lovemyson480
    @lovemyson480 3 роки тому +1

    I remember watching Dawson’s Creek when I was a kid. My mom, brothers and sisters would all watch it together.

  • @MommywithaCause
    @MommywithaCause 3 роки тому +11

    I really wish Kerr Smith had spoken more!!