The reason Jean shot Falco is because he had a whole character arc about how he was hesitating against killing humans, and how he shouldn't hesitate anymore.
haylo : *amused and excited by armin turning into titan* kiss : " thats so many people " haylo : * realises * " oh yea 😬" the look had me laughing so hard
No. It means they forgot how Eren and other people from island were suffering and dying because of Marley and their warriors. Pieck literally was part of poisoning Connie’s village but they feel bad for her
A lot of younger people couldn't handle season 4, because it's not longer the Marvel/LOTR-like hero trope of good fighting evil. AoT actually tells it in every season, how foolish this is, but many didn't listened and simply enjoyed the action, so it's a surprised Pikachu in season 4 when its no longer background philosophy but actually shown on the screen. Armin literally says in the first season that they have to become monsters or they will loose (and in this case it literally would mean death of them all).
@@greendragon4870 THIS. It's like the entire AOT fandom forgot about all the suffering Marley inflicted on Paradise for 3 whole seasons, and just 2 episodes of Paradise fighting back makes them forget all the hell Paradise went through and makes them sympathize with Marley.
a cool detail i think most people miss is that levi still wears the scouts cape despite them not really being 'scouts' any more, he's also the only one to not use thunderspears
i know the story is absolutely amazing but i just can't get over the music, no other show has score as great as attack on titan. Especially in season 4, they really cooked with their music. In last episode, the way music matched with canonfire, the way music made zeke's entrance epic. This show really is something else. And soo many marleyans dying is just a cherry on top, this and last episode are just beautiful, couldn't stop grinning the entire time I watched this lol. Mappa really did justice with the design of the new eren's titan, it just looks 100 times better, a trule manace.
eh i was always with Eren-mikasa-armin. They were kid and were made into monsters by marley's cruelty. Gabi , falco zofia and the other kids are warriors, they know war, they already kill people... they know what's going on. Eren was a little kid playing fetch with his mother and mikasa or something and suddenly everyone died in front of him, spent his life in military, only to keep watching everyone dying still.. Keep in mind that i am talking about THIS point of the show. Even after the battle of liberio, i am still rooting for eren and the gang. In the end of the anime though... i don't know.
@@akhsdenlew1861 At this point I was with Eren too, but this is where most people start to have doubts in the back of their mind about who they are rooting for.
@@davidduanes9574 i didn't... it was refreshing to see them clapping for once. for 3 seasons all we were seeing is them getting beat up in the worst ways possible. My doubts came later when he went all hitler. But at this point, I had 0 doubts.
@@akhsdenlew1861 Well I said most people, not everyones awareness is on a same level. But most people by this time noticed that this is not leading to anything good.
This episode really shows you how far everyone has come since Season 1. In Season 1 they struggled really hard to deal with Annie's Female Titan, but now here they are fighting 3 intelligent titans at the same time and kicking their asses. As for Jean, he hesitated in the past when they were dealing with Kenny, he promised to his friends and himself that he wouldn't hesitate anymore when it mattered. So he took the shot toward Falco due to that past experience.
they fought unknown titan in the first season, so they didn't dare to take risks. but when the season 3 gets the answer, the soldiers show that they are fearless. the key to war is intelligence.
"We don't know who we're rooting for." That's the beauty of this show. This show is just people pulling Uno reverse cards on each other to put it simply. Also If you ladies were misty eyed for this episode, I can only imagine the next episodes, especially the next one, Children of the Forest, Sole Salvation and Two Brothers.
@@GregSmithIII I mean though, you could argue that all of them were victims at some point. Eldians terrorised Marley for years and then they fought back. That's the point of the show, everyone has a point and a reason for fighting. No one's in the right.
The last time Jean hesitated before attacking someone out of empathy, he nearly got shot and was only saved by Armin acting faster. That's why he didn't avoid firing even when Falco put himself in the way.
Man episodes 4x6-8 was a MOMENT I remember seeing ppl on my social media feeds who I wouldn’t expect to know what anime even is commenting on it, sharing memes, etc. The genius of Iseyama to disorient us with the time skip/new location/new characters, get us to empathize with them, then bring back “our” guys for a brutal battle… I think if you watch other reactions you’ll see people also veering from “hell yeah Scouts, fuck em up!” to “this is sad and awful” to “I can’t process this” all within the space of a single scene. I don’t think we’ll see something like that replicated anytime soon.
Probably a top 3 episode for me. Nonstop action, where the tide of battle shifts multiple times for each side, plus the nutcracker scene is just insane
It's kinda interesting what hits you both differently. The Titan bombs from the first ep hit Kiss so hard and Haylo was all about it, then the opposite happened here with the colossal nuking the harbor.
I get so much nostalgia from their reaction, it's so good to rewatch this last season through their eyes. Haylo's reaction is like seeing myself in a mirror during my first watch. Felt upset with everything the first few episodes, until the purpose of the narrative hit hard. So... it's okay, Haylo, what you are feeling is a good sign. And don't pay attention to the detractors, guys, this season is AOT reaching its peak, best anti-war narrative ever written ! Edit: Also, the Scouts do care. There's just so much going on and it's so overwhelming that you had a hard time noticing.
It's crazy how quickly the battle changed just because Galliard could not keep himself under control. Marley had three Titans on the offensive (Beast, Cart and Jaw) with the Beast creating havoc and Cart and Jaw protecting him, one Titan beaten (War Hammer) and one AWOL (Armoured). Moreover, they had reinforcements coming in from the seas. Then, suddenly Armin obliterates all the reinforcements by dropping a nuke on them. This makes Galliard angry who breaks formation leaving the Beast and Cart vulnerable. Levi takes down the Beast while Jean and Sasha take down the Cart. The Jaw, now all on its own, is handled by Mikasa and Eren and is then used to KO the War Hammer. With no one else remaining, in desperation and resignation , the Armoured Titan finally reports for duty.
One thing I think Mapa did extremely well was depicting Eren's titan as a real monster in this arc. He is merciless, careless, cold blooded. The attack titan with the old studio was too friendly, the complete oposite of what he is right now, a monster incarnate, a devil's true form.
Reiner is like that because he didn't have the stamina to properly generate his own titan. If you cast your minds back to S3, there's a scene that shows that Eren's titan gets more and more dysfunctional with each transformation (Which is something he learned how to control, evidently).
It's not exactly due to his stamina he transforms later multiple times without this happening. Its more due to his will being broken after what just happened with eren
@@rabnessmonster25 Even before we also literally seem him about to kill himself only to brought out of it by Falco. The guy is beyond burned out, and the only thing he is really living for is the kids at this point (even if they keep giving him PTSD). He is just so done with everything.
@@santiagonaranjo6672 OR MAYBE YOU KNOW people are actually sympathetic to the fact that the "titans" attacking Paradis were actual 9 year olds. OR MAYBE YOU KNOW the largest casualty of this attack are the Eldians in the internment zone who were discriminated their whole lives only to be killed by 'their own people'
@@yatharthrai4658 Killed by the people they hate and wished for their extermination, yes. Exactly. If only Marley would have left Paradise alone none of this would have happened. But no, they had to go an try to exterminate an entire race first, and yet, you´re still rooting for them, nice.
@@yatharthrai4658 Killed by the people they despise, and wished for their extermination, yes, exactly. If only Marley would have left Paradise alone none of this would have happened, but no, they had go to an try to exterminate an entire race first. And yet, you´re still rooting for them, nice.
If you recall, wayyyyy back, what Eren said to Armin as he watched the walls fall... xD This is that culmination of his words and anger. The sad part about this if you realize it that it's Eldians fighting themselves, just like in the Great Titan War in the play. And for a minute there I thought Kiss was wearing a Santa Beast Titan shirt xD
5:54 " One more Ackermann*!" 7:33 this was previewed at the end of S3 8:09 I mean the way he narrowed his eyes could mean either 9:52 His mouth was moving AA
@@LoricSwift to be honest... it was his fault. He could just go back. But no... he wanted to break the wall and make innocent ppl suffer. And now that the remnants of those innocent people are filled with hatred and are now strong, he has no excuse for what was happening in liberio. Reiner had a choice. Sure he had his mission but he didn't have PERSONAL reasons to break to wall... noone hurt him from paradis at that point. He just followed orders. For eren though, it is personal.. it is revenge... it is hatred that was built up through many years. Reiner understands that this eren that he saw before him, is his own creation...and he just wished that eren was just a better man than him. But even if eren WAS a better man than him and didn't seek out revenge, marley was still declaring war and planning to destroy paradis.
6:30 not shown in this vid, but in the actual footage there’s a brief second where you see the dead gunner, and at the back of his turret a couple of pics of the Panzer squad gathered around Pieck. 😢 No question they’d had died for her in any other scenario.
I love Magath's face-palm after Eren juices the Warhammer and starts percussion-pounding Porco face-first on the ground. He's not having his best day ever...
That's exactly what Marley's MP who killed Zeke's sister said. After all, people want to see cruelty for entertainment, don't they? The contrasting reactions of the two sisters showed this well. One continues to be confused about how to handle this situation emotionally and is at a loss as to whom to root for. The other, on the other hand, is basically smiling and overjoyed every time Eren or a character from Paradis Island attacks and kills someone. Then, as soon as there is a scene of dead civilians or dialogue about it, she looks sad, understanding the “irrelevant victims” as she remembers them. Of course, she is not smiling because the Paradis characters are killing people, but because she is happy to see the Paradis characters in action. But you don't need to see the scene of dead civilians to imagine it. I just know that Paradis Island characters attacking = a lot of unrelated people being killed. Eren said, “There are people of color both inside and outside the walls,” which we both agreed with. Reiner also talked about the people on Paradis Island as “all kinds of guys” during a meal with his family, but Reiner's mother and Gabi dismissed this as “devils”. In contrast, they denied to Reiner's mother and Gabi that they were brainwashed. There must have been many “various people” other than the characters Eren and Reiner met. There were many “different people” on Paradis Island, in Marley, in the camps, and in other countries. There must have been many nameless people, both good and bad. There must have been people on Marley who did not think Eldians were “devils”. Not all of the people in the camps would consider the people of Paradis Island to be “devils”. Not all the people would have had the same ideology as the country. Still, there must have been many Marleys who had no choice but to follow the instructions of their country. Eren and his men stood on the corpses of “various people” who were not depicted as “famous characters,” and the way they smiled with joy at their battle reminded me, in a way, of the Marley MPs who killed Zeke's sister and some Marley citizens who were happy to see newspaper headlines about “their country's soldiers in action.
The Battle of liberio is THE definition of the "you reap what you sow". Marley has no buisness playing the Victim card. THEY created those monsters... Not to mention that it is THEM who declared war, AGAIN.
5:15 You know shit's gettin' real when the Guy whom we assumed to be the "good person" literally murder/clean few hundreds of people (both soldiers & civilians) in just a single blast If we combined the kill counts of Annie, Reiner & Bert, it's still less than that of Armin's And if I'm not wrong, at least Annie, Bert & Reiner didn't kill innocent civilians (almost all the martyr ones are war soldiers), which is not the case for Armin
what do you mean only soldiers. They broke the wall and called pure titans. So basically they used them as weapon to kill. Its like "Summoner" in RPG haha weird comparison , but still. Imo , all two sides have killed a lot of innocent people
I love seeing you in the same clothes because it is an indication that you are so "addicted" that you "binged" the show... And here we have an old joke: Armin: "I want to see the sea!" Season 4 - Armin: "Nuke the sea!"
One important little moment here (7:55) is Jean's decision to fire the thunderspear at Falco. He pushes through the hesitation because the last time he was in this situation (when he had that MP at gunpoint on the back of the cart), it almost got him and his comrades killed. It's an interesting bit of character development to see how combat against humans has affected Jean Also for why Reiner's titan looks so different, this was actually a bit of a mistake on the part of the showrunners (No spoilers, but I will be talking about the visual difference between the manga and show). So in the show, we're shown that Reiner's armored plates have that golden brownish color, but the manga was publishing in black and white, so it doesn't really have the same tonal delineation between the plates and the skin of other normal titans. So when Reiner pops up in this form here, it's made very clear that he's in such a weakened state that his armored plates don't form properly - he just has jagged fragments on his shoulders, shins, and such, but his torso and face are completely bare and he looks essentially like a giant version of his human form. The showrunners for some bizarre reason colored what SHOULD be his bare titan skin the same golden brown as his armored plates. They also added the armor clinking sound effects when he moves (even though he's unarmored there) and made his eyes glow. Because of this, I've found that when most people who haven't read the manga see this scene for the first time, they assume Reiner is in like a new, more powerful form or something (the glowing eyes, the spiky shoulders etc), when in fact the total opposite is true. Reiner is so weak and broken, that he's unable to even fully form his titan, and is simply using all the strength he has left to push through for Gabbi and Falco. That probably didn't need explaining at this point since I'm sure you two have seen the next episode by the time this one airs, but still, it was a weird little production mistake I thought would be interesting to point out
I've heard this about the US Military but it works in this context, "We dont believe in self defence, we believe in self offence. Its much more effective."
11:57 when you said you were annoyed I don’t know how to tell you this, but fasten your seatbelts because this is only the beginning. Eren Yeager is the definition of I don’t give a fuck this season.
The point of Attack On Titan, is perspectivism. There are no good guys or bad guys, thats the whole appeal, all sides do what they think is best, and they got good reasons for it. Watch it more like documentary, than root for someone specifically
Last episode Willy told Magath "don't change on me now!" when he said they'd get a bunch of Eldians killed in the internment camp because he was showing that he cares for them.
From Marleyan's infiltrating the Island of Paradis and causing the deaths of many to Eren and the scouts playing the uno reverse on them and you now feel sorry for them is such a wild story. Never ending retaliation and war.
12:50 Reiner is weak and exhausted so when he transforms at the end his armor on the titan body doesn't fully generate. Similar to season 3 episode 1 for Eren during his practice
yesss🔥 Paradise has been tormented for hundreds of years, because Marley has tortured paradise too many times, Eren did his job well to take revenge, marley makes a devil is born, i love eren, eren is not naive
Eren and armin did exactly what Reiner and bertholdt did in the very beginning. It makes sense why Eren moving forward from this and Reiner act the way they do. They both had to look at the people they were crushing and smashing while killing them. Bertholdt and Armin kinda had it easier than the other pair, they just have to transform once and it’ll kill most of the people in that area instantly. The colossal is so tall I doubt it can see any of the people it kills unless it’s a huge crowd. Whereas Eren and Reiner have normal sized titans so they can see everything they’re doing and causing
The lessons people learned in S1-3 are coming up in twisted ways in these episodes. It's very interesting on rewatch e.g. In S1 when Levi Squad died to Annie, Eren learned he needs to act independently and aggressively to save the people he cares about. In S3 when Jean didn't take the shot on Kenny's soldier, he learned he has to put his humanity aside to save the people he cares about. I'm sure there's more but I'm piecing it together as I watch with yall. Crazy stuff & love the reactions
The reason Jean shot Falco is because he had a whole character arc about how he was hesitating against killing humans, and how he shouldn't hesitate anymore.
not armin getting mistaken as historia again 😭
"She's more muscular than I imagined..."
Always and forever
Armin was voiced by a female voice actor afterall. :3
Armin, Historia and Yelena is one person pretending to be three
Well... yk what they say... where there is a hole there is a goa-
Sorry I'll leave.
The nutcracker scene is one of my favorites without a doubt. The mixture of emotions, cruelty and humiliation, is so intense.
And the look on Eren's face 💀
Porco begging Eren to stop always gets me
@@kevinnthesad9574 gilliard？
That sounds like something the guy who got killed by the owl might have said. 👽
@@justwatchnotsay His name is Porco Galliard
"Who's we anymore?!" Is such a great synopsis of S4
9:46 "Historia??? I love her haircut too"
poor Armin.🤣🤣🤣
"Is this Marley's? Or did Paradis have a Minecraft?" LOL 9:00
Maybe the minecraft is friends we made along the way
After so many years of stunted development, Paradis has finally reached modern technology with the invention of Minecraft.
@@stanmanlyman4550 Maybe the real attack on titan are enemies we destroyed to keep moving forward
@@stanmanlyman4550 Exactly. Minecraft? No, OURcraft comrade!
Paradis developed quite a lot😂❤
Armin : I want to see the sea
Also armin: NUKES THE SEA
🤭🤭
lmfaoo
😂😂😂
haylo : *amused and excited by armin turning into titan*
kiss : " thats so many people "
haylo : * realises * " oh yea 😬"
the look had me laughing so hard
“Like JUICE? Are you Joking?” I wheezed so hard lmfao
With her hands holding together above her head 😂
pretty smart for suicidal Eren right?? its like another person
They’re conflicted? Good, that means the story is working as intended
No. It means they forgot how Eren and other people from island were suffering and dying because of Marley and their warriors. Pieck literally was part of poisoning Connie’s village but they feel bad for her
@@greendragon4870 Lol your comment summarize that you dont understand the show and what the author is trying to portray.
@@greendragon4870you just dont get it the story.I bet you were in eren side in the end.
A lot of younger people couldn't handle season 4, because it's not longer the Marvel/LOTR-like hero trope of good fighting evil. AoT actually tells it in every season, how foolish this is, but many didn't listened and simply enjoyed the action, so it's a surprised Pikachu in season 4 when its no longer background philosophy but actually shown on the screen. Armin literally says in the first season that they have to become monsters or they will loose (and in this case it literally would mean death of them all).
@@greendragon4870 THIS. It's like the entire AOT fandom forgot about all the suffering Marley inflicted on Paradise for 3 whole seasons, and just 2 episodes of Paradise fighting back makes them forget all the hell Paradise went through and makes them sympathize with Marley.
Haylo is all confused with the good guys looking like the bad guys... and Kiss is like... let's get ready to rumble!!! 🤣🤣🤣
a cool detail i think most people miss is that levi still wears the scouts cape despite them not really being 'scouts' any more, he's also the only one to not use thunderspears
"Why won't you guys just let me die in peace?" I love this scene
Reiner just wants to die, but no one will let him. He's like the literal opposite of Eren ...
Armin’s sadness is so telling
i know the story is absolutely amazing but i just can't get over the music, no other show has score as great as attack on titan. Especially in season 4, they really cooked with their music. In last episode, the way music matched with canonfire, the way music made zeke's entrance epic. This show really is something else. And soo many marleyans dying is just a cherry on top, this and last episode are just beautiful, couldn't stop grinning the entire time I watched this lol. Mappa really did justice with the design of the new eren's titan, it just looks 100 times better, a trule manace.
That's right! Even the soundtrack on the nutcracker scene is called "The fall of Marley"
Totally fits!
Don't forget reiner's ost in the end
I totally agree! the ost "Ashes on fire" is top tier alongside "You See Big Girl".
I agree Mappa came in and crushed it, but I also bet that the Attack Titan's change was also story related as he becomes more morally grey
I’ve never listened to anything more than I’ve listened to the AoT soundtrack. Nothing should be that good.
"Who is we anymore"
"Who are we rooting for"
- Funny to see people also go trough this after I saw the show.
the deconstruction of nationalism is an underrated aspect of AOT
eh i was always with Eren-mikasa-armin.
They were kid and were made into monsters by marley's cruelty.
Gabi , falco zofia and the other kids are warriors, they know war, they already kill people... they know what's going on.
Eren was a little kid playing fetch with his mother and mikasa or something and suddenly everyone died in front of him, spent his life in military, only to keep watching everyone dying still..
Keep in mind that i am talking about THIS point of the show.
Even after the battle of liberio, i am still rooting for eren and the gang.
In the end of the anime though... i don't know.
@@akhsdenlew1861 At this point I was with Eren too, but this is where most people start to have doubts in the back of their mind about who they are rooting for.
@@davidduanes9574 i didn't... it was refreshing to see them clapping for once.
for 3 seasons all we were seeing is them getting beat up in the worst ways possible.
My doubts came later when he went all hitler.
But at this point, I had 0 doubts.
@@akhsdenlew1861 Well I said most people, not everyones awareness is on a same level. But most people by this time noticed that this is not leading to anything good.
"Why... won't you guys just let me die in peace?"
Always hits me like a truck...
"Because you're Isayama's favorite character, Reiner."
@@mrtruman4339 Reiner just wants to die, and Isayama wont let him...
"who is we anymore?"
Exactly. Moral conflict is the essence of this show 👌
This episode really shows you how far everyone has come since Season 1.
In Season 1 they struggled really hard to deal with Annie's Female Titan, but now here they are fighting 3 intelligent titans at the same time and kicking their asses.
As for Jean, he hesitated in the past when they were dealing with Kenny, he promised to his friends and himself that he wouldn't hesitate anymore when it mattered. So he took the shot toward Falco due to that past experience.
In reality they fought against 2 Titans with 2 Titans more coz Zeke belong to them and is a traitor to Marley.
you're right, though to be fair the Female Titan is actually a complete menace, especially if there are pure titans around
they fought unknown titan in the first season, so they didn't dare to take risks. but when the season 3 gets the answer, the soldiers show that they are fearless.
the key to war is intelligence.
My head was so blown away by seeing Armin in his titan form for the first time.
This show knows no limits.
I already took my sleeping meds and my eyes are so blurry that I read “Armin in his Italian form” anyways it’s time for bed
LMAO you'd better get some rest. Good night and sweet dreams!@@miahan8988
LMAO I hope you slept well!@@miahan8988
"We don't know who we're rooting for." That's the beauty of this show. This show is just people pulling Uno reverse cards on each other to put it simply. Also If you ladies were misty eyed for this episode, I can only imagine the next episodes, especially the next one, Children of the Forest, Sole Salvation and Two Brothers.
I know who I'm rooting for!
@@flochforster7864 Same. I'm rooting for the victims who are fighting back.
@@GregSmithIII I mean though, you could argue that all of them were victims at some point. Eldians terrorised Marley for years and then they fought back. That's the point of the show, everyone has a point and a reason for fighting. No one's in the right.
If you aren’t rooting for Eldians you are in the wrong
For sure rooting for the Eldians now, just my point was we would have been saying the same for the Marlians back then. Everybody is a victim.
The last time Jean hesitated before attacking someone out of empathy, he nearly got shot and was only saved by Armin acting faster. That's why he didn't avoid firing even when Falco put himself in the way.
you guys are so observant, noticing magath cares off that one line. real good reactions
5:12 Evil sister on the left, good sister on the right... 🤣❤👌🏼
This is war. No matter who wins or loses, no one will be happy, only suffering will come on both sides.
Even time I see Jean weaving the cart titan, I remember that he was ranked #1 in using odm gear
Bluray version has a lot of improvements in the animation. This is the tv version that you are watching.
Yeah they should definitely watch the Blu-ray version
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Where to watch the Blu-ray version?
@@sam_5702 I download from a site called "moviesmod"
I love the action in this arc everything is just so tense and well animated
Man episodes 4x6-8 was a MOMENT I remember seeing ppl on my social media feeds who I wouldn’t expect to know what anime even is commenting on it, sharing memes, etc.
The genius of Iseyama to disorient us with the time skip/new location/new characters, get us to empathize with them, then bring back “our” guys for a brutal battle… I think if you watch other reactions you’ll see people also veering from “hell yeah Scouts, fuck em up!” to “this is sad and awful” to “I can’t process this” all within the space of a single scene. I don’t think we’ll see something like that replicated anytime soon.
The Nutcracker scene is goddamn iconic lmao
Probably a top 3 episode for me. Nonstop action, where the tide of battle shifts multiple times for each side, plus the nutcracker scene is just insane
They love Hanji so much 🤣😭
That's good😂
It's kinda interesting what hits you both differently. The Titan bombs from the first ep hit Kiss so hard and Haylo was all about it, then the opposite happened here with the colossal nuking the harbor.
I get so much nostalgia from their reaction, it's so good to rewatch this last season through their eyes. Haylo's reaction is like seeing myself in a mirror during my first watch. Felt upset with everything the first few episodes, until the purpose of the narrative hit hard. So... it's okay, Haylo, what you are feeling is a good sign. And don't pay attention to the detractors, guys, this season is AOT reaching its peak, best anti-war narrative ever written !
Edit: Also, the Scouts do care. There's just so much going on and it's so overwhelming that you had a hard time noticing.
True, jean missed that attack on purpose
"Haylo: Who is we?" love that
It's crazy how quickly the battle changed just because Galliard could not keep himself under control. Marley had three Titans on the offensive (Beast, Cart and Jaw) with the Beast creating havoc and Cart and Jaw protecting him, one Titan beaten (War Hammer) and one AWOL (Armoured). Moreover, they had reinforcements coming in from the seas. Then, suddenly Armin obliterates all the reinforcements by dropping a nuke on them. This makes Galliard angry who breaks formation leaving the Beast and Cart vulnerable. Levi takes down the Beast while Jean and Sasha take down the Cart. The Jaw, now all on its own, is handled by Mikasa and Eren and is then used to KO the War Hammer. With no one else remaining, in desperation and resignation , the Armoured Titan finally reports for duty.
To be fair, I think the Marleyans would have gotten their asses whooped no matter what, with Levi on their side
One thing I think Mapa did extremely well was depicting Eren's titan as a real monster in this arc. He is merciless, careless, cold blooded. The attack titan with the old studio was too friendly, the complete oposite of what he is right now, a monster incarnate, a devil's true form.
Reiner is like that because he didn't have the stamina to properly generate his own titan. If you cast your minds back to S3, there's a scene that shows that Eren's titan gets more and more dysfunctional with each transformation (Which is something he learned how to control, evidently).
It's not exactly due to his stamina he transforms later multiple times without this happening. Its more due to his will being broken after what just happened with eren
@@rabnessmonster25 Even before we also literally seem him about to kill himself only to brought out of it by Falco. The guy is beyond burned out, and the only thing he is really living for is the kids at this point (even if they keep giving him PTSD). He is just so done with everything.
What is indicative of a well written story is when suddenly you find yourself rooting for the villians and scared of the heroes.
No. It’s an indicative that the spectators have a bad memory and don’t remember the suffering the actual villains caused to Paradise
@@santiagonaranjo6672 OR MAYBE YOU KNOW people are actually sympathetic to the fact that the "titans" attacking Paradis were actual 9 year olds. OR MAYBE YOU KNOW the largest casualty of this attack are the Eldians in the internment zone who were discriminated their whole lives only to be killed by 'their own people'
@@yatharthrai4658 Killed by the people they hate and wished for their extermination, yes. Exactly. If only Marley would have left Paradise alone none of this would have happened. But no, they had to go an try to exterminate an entire race first, and yet, you´re still rooting for them, nice.
@@yatharthrai4658 Killed by the people they despise, and wished for their extermination, yes, exactly. If only Marley would have left Paradise alone none of this would have happened, but no, they had go to an try to exterminate an entire race first. And yet, you´re still rooting for them, nice.
eren is the villain
Ah yes, the "We are the good guys, right?" moment.
damn eldians are the lesser evil ppl from the entire world.
Tybur: "I declare War!"
Eren: Okay.
Marley: --oh crap wait never mind guys hold up
"Don't be absurd!!! It's enough because you're losing!!! You've come here to destroy us!!!" - Vegeta
@@ShantyIrishman It reminds me of that scene from The Last of Us show, "It has to stop NOW, you mean? Now that YOU are in the cell?"
5:26 Kiss is definitely a Yeagerist
A patriot ✊
5:30 realization hits 🤣
13:06 this is why i love her: ''he use the jaw titan as... (proceeds to act it ) as a juicer ''
This episode is going to be ballistic.
9:45 this made me laugh way too much 😭armin never beating the allegations
"Wouldn't the Jaw have gotten some too?" No, Porco's hanging in a position where it's physically impossible to swallow.
Also I think he was too emotionally traumatized to even think about doing that anyway 🤣
If you recall, wayyyyy back, what Eren said to Armin as he watched the walls fall... xD This is that culmination of his words and anger.
The sad part about this if you realize it that it's Eldians fighting themselves, just like in the Great Titan War in the play.
And for a minute there I thought Kiss was wearing a Santa Beast Titan shirt xD
Well it's Marley using eldians to fight eldians
I feel like we haven't seen that yet 😭 You talkin about what he said in EP 2?
@@cjjackson2423 Yeah about doing something to the Titans. Didn't want to mention anything just incase they want to revisit past eps xD
@@Silentreaver Yea, I feel like that hasn't happened yet 😅
5:54 " One more Ackermann*!"
7:33 this was previewed at the end of S3
8:09 I mean the way he narrowed his eyes could mean either
9:52 His mouth was moving AA
I feel so bad for reiner. That infiltration mission fucked his will.
He was truly a broken person, even the split persona was just a mask in a way. This show is like the definition of PTSD.
@@LoricSwift to be honest... it was his fault.
He could just go back.
But no... he wanted to break the wall and make innocent ppl suffer.
And now that the remnants of those innocent people are filled with hatred and are now strong, he has no excuse for what was happening in liberio.
Reiner had a choice.
Sure he had his mission but he didn't have PERSONAL reasons to break to wall... noone hurt him from paradis at that point.
He just followed orders.
For eren though, it is personal.. it is revenge... it is hatred that was built up through many years.
Reiner understands that this eren that he saw before him, is his own creation...and he just wished that eren was just a better man than him.
But even if eren WAS a better man than him and didn't seek out revenge, marley was still declaring war and planning to destroy paradis.
6:30 not shown in this vid, but in the actual footage there’s a brief second where you see the dead gunner, and at the back of his turret a couple of pics of the Panzer squad gathered around Pieck. 😢 No question they’d had died for her in any other scenario.
I love Magath's face-palm after Eren juices the Warhammer and starts percussion-pounding Porco face-first on the ground. He's not having his best day ever...
The eren we all knew that was always crying from S1 to S3 is long gone
He's still the same bro
@@Kaiverze fr
There's nothing wrong with eren from previous seasons he has always been a great character & just became better & better
He looks like that, but deep down, he's the same.
That's exactly what Marley's MP who killed Zeke's sister said.
After all, people want to see cruelty for entertainment, don't they?
The contrasting reactions of the two sisters showed this well.
One continues to be confused about how to handle this situation emotionally and is at a loss as to whom to root for.
The other, on the other hand, is basically smiling and overjoyed every time Eren or a character from Paradis Island attacks and kills someone. Then, as soon as there is a scene of dead civilians or dialogue about it, she looks sad, understanding the “irrelevant victims” as she remembers them.
Of course, she is not smiling because the Paradis characters are killing people, but because she is happy to see the Paradis characters in action.
But you don't need to see the scene of dead civilians to imagine it.
I just know that Paradis Island characters attacking = a lot of unrelated people being killed.
Eren said, “There are people of color both inside and outside the walls,” which we both agreed with.
Reiner also talked about the people on Paradis Island as “all kinds of guys” during a meal with his family, but Reiner's mother and Gabi dismissed this as “devils”.
In contrast, they denied to Reiner's mother and Gabi that they were brainwashed.
There must have been many “various people” other than the characters Eren and Reiner met.
There were many “different people” on Paradis Island, in Marley, in the camps, and in other countries.
There must have been many nameless people, both good and bad.
There must have been people on Marley who did not think Eldians were “devils”.
Not all of the people in the camps would consider the people of Paradis Island to be “devils”.
Not all the people would have had the same ideology as the country.
Still, there must have been many Marleys who had no choice but to follow the instructions of their country.
Eren and his men stood on the corpses of “various people” who were not depicted as “famous characters,” and the way they smiled with joy at their battle reminded me, in a way, of the Marley MPs who killed Zeke's sister and some Marley citizens who were happy to see newspaper headlines about “their country's soldiers in action.
Just to clarify, were you talking about Grisha's sister? Cause Zeke has no sister. Other than that, you laid everything perfectly.
The Battle of liberio is THE definition of the "you reap what you sow".
Marley has no buisness playing the Victim card.
THEY created those monsters... Not to mention that it is THEM who declared war, AGAIN.
Haylo is literally me when I first watched this episode. I was so conflicted. I couldn't believe Jean fired the thunder spear.
That's how war works.
“Who’s we anymore?” So true. My heart broke seeing armin kill all those people.
5:15 You know shit's gettin' real when the Guy whom we assumed to be the "good person" literally murder/clean few hundreds of people (both soldiers & civilians) in just a single blast
If we combined the kill counts of Annie, Reiner & Bert, it's still less than that of Armin's
And if I'm not wrong, at least Annie, Bert & Reiner didn't kill innocent civilians (almost all the martyr ones are war soldiers), which is not the case for Armin
@@Kaiverze that's a good point mate
If we consider the "indirect" kill-counts then yahh Annie, Bert & Reiner would most likely exceed that of Armin
what do you mean only soldiers. They broke the wall and called pure titans. So basically they used them as weapon to kill. Its like "Summoner" in RPG haha weird comparison , but still. Imo , all two sides have killed a lot of innocent people
"Eren needs to be controlled"
This will surely not be the last time this is said this final season.
poor reiner, my dude just want to rest in peace
i always think paradis had every right to retaliate so although its hard to watch the casualties it was bound to happen
8:04 Jean hesitated but don't forget the cart helped almost wipe out the scouts
From around this point, it becomes unclear which side I should align myself with, leading to an unstable perspective.
"Eren needs to be controlled"
...yeah.. 😂
when u feel guilty for them , just remember what they did to paradise ahahaha
This show is not about choosing teams, but what is right.
I love seeing you in the same clothes because it is an indication that you are so "addicted" that you "binged" the show...
And here we have an old joke:
Armin: "I want to see the sea!"
Season 4 - Armin: "Nuke the sea!"
One important little moment here (7:55) is Jean's decision to fire the thunderspear at Falco. He pushes through the hesitation because the last time he was in this situation (when he had that MP at gunpoint on the back of the cart), it almost got him and his comrades killed. It's an interesting bit of character development to see how combat against humans has affected Jean
Also for why Reiner's titan looks so different, this was actually a bit of a mistake on the part of the showrunners (No spoilers, but I will be talking about the visual difference between the manga and show). So in the show, we're shown that Reiner's armored plates have that golden brownish color, but the manga was publishing in black and white, so it doesn't really have the same tonal delineation between the plates and the skin of other normal titans. So when Reiner pops up in this form here, it's made very clear that he's in such a weakened state that his armored plates don't form properly - he just has jagged fragments on his shoulders, shins, and such, but his torso and face are completely bare and he looks essentially like a giant version of his human form. The showrunners for some bizarre reason colored what SHOULD be his bare titan skin the same golden brown as his armored plates. They also added the armor clinking sound effects when he moves (even though he's unarmored there) and made his eyes glow. Because of this, I've found that when most people who haven't read the manga see this scene for the first time, they assume Reiner is in like a new, more powerful form or something (the glowing eyes, the spiky shoulders etc), when in fact the total opposite is true. Reiner is so weak and broken, that he's unable to even fully form his titan, and is simply using all the strength he has left to push through for Gabbi and Falco.
That probably didn't need explaining at this point since I'm sure you two have seen the next episode by the time this one airs, but still, it was a weird little production mistake I thought would be interesting to point out
1:33
Clarissa: Stop!
*It stops*
When you realise rooting for the "good guys" in a war makes you the bad guy from the other's perspective
eldians were the good guys. the world is just sour losers.
Haylo after seeing Beast Titan: "Go away"
Levi: He already has
Levi*
It either Paradis or Marley.. one has to stained their hands with blood. TATAKAE, EREN!
Eren: "I heard ya'll were having a BBQ."
Armin: "Did somebody say BBQ?"
S1: im scared of titans
S4: im scared of eren
"fun" fact, gabi's voice actress actually hurt her voice when doing the screaming
Damn yeah it sounded really painful
I've heard this about the US Military but it works in this context, "We dont believe in self defence, we believe in self offence. Its much more effective."
Armin is crying in the corner🤣
11:57 when you said you were annoyed
I don’t know how to tell you this, but fasten your seatbelts because this is only the beginning. Eren Yeager is the definition of I don’t give a fuck this season.
Poor Armin, seeing Bertholdt’s point of view.
"Usurper Eren Jaeger, any last words?"
Famous last words from Lara Tybur
Giddy laughter at Armin nuking the port. “That’s a lot of people,” “Yeah” “Oh yeah…” Grimaced and then “Anyway…”
Never change. 👍
The point of Attack On Titan, is perspectivism. There are no good guys or bad guys, thats the whole appeal, all sides do what they think is best, and they got good reasons for it. Watch it more like documentary, than root for someone specifically
perspectivisticism*
There is only bad guys here.
They all have their reasons, but they all did something terribly wrong. It is not in the nor good or bad zone.
*if thats armin and thats not armin, than that must be historia*, "i love her haircut" she says lmao
Last episode Willy told Magath "don't change on me now!" when he said they'd get a bunch of Eldians killed in the internment camp because he was showing that he cares for them.
fun fact: the more mental unstable you are the more monstrous your titan form looks.
This is just the consequence of AoT's artstyle changing over the years, even if unintentionally.
From Marleyan's infiltrating the Island of Paradis and causing the deaths of many to Eren and the scouts playing the uno reverse on them and you now feel sorry for them is such a wild story. Never ending retaliation and war.
12:50 Reiner is weak and exhausted so when he transforms at the end his armor on the titan body doesn't fully generate. Similar to season 3 episode 1 for Eren during his practice
11:10 «Eren needs to be controlled»
I'd prefer Marley to be controlled
yesss🔥 Paradise has been tormented for hundreds of years, because Marley has tortured paradise too many times, Eren did his job well to take revenge, marley makes a devil is born, i love eren, eren is not naive
10:44 Season 4 animation was taken over by MAPPA studios, that’s why Eren’s titan looks so much more menacing.
Armin casually out here taking 1st place in terms of body count as of this episode
"Who are we rooting for anymore?" lol. This is why I've only been rooting for brutality from the start.
Peak EREN begins now 🤌😍😇
KIss: STOP 1:33
STOP RIGHT NOW
Anime: * stops the same second *
Kiss: 😊
Eren and armin did exactly what Reiner and bertholdt did in the very beginning. It makes sense why Eren moving forward from this and Reiner act the way they do. They both had to look at the people they were crushing and smashing while killing them. Bertholdt and Armin kinda had it easier than the other pair, they just have to transform once and it’ll kill most of the people in that area instantly. The colossal is so tall I doubt it can see any of the people it kills unless it’s a huge crowd. Whereas Eren and Reiner have normal sized titans so they can see everything they’re doing and causing
Yes, it is a grey area.
Don't question just root for the devil's of paradise
The lessons people learned in S1-3 are coming up in twisted ways in these episodes. It's very interesting on rewatch
e.g. In S1 when Levi Squad died to Annie, Eren learned he needs to act independently and aggressively to save the people he cares about. In S3 when Jean didn't take the shot on Kenny's soldier, he learned he has to put his humanity aside to save the people he cares about.
I'm sure there's more but I'm piecing it together as I watch with yall. Crazy stuff & love the reactions
14:05 "Paradise against the world, Like WHAT!".
Lol, do you guys think the world even stand a slight chance? 🤣
Felt bad when the Scouts destroyed Pieck and her Panzer Unit but seeing the Cart Titan wriggle like a dying cockroach, I always find that funny...
Yeah I laughed a little too hard at that part 🤣
Jean does Care but he knows it has to be Done no matter what- although because he hesitated it didnt hit Pieck
Always so excited for your videos!! 🥰🥰