The SC - We've Been Waiting to Show You The Rain Again!
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- The Sound Couple head off to a familiar location for them...but not for you! Covid and weather has caused delays in debuting one of our most favorite gigs....and on this day, it's no different as rain threatens again!
We have some new gear to share with you to support our quest in making both the musicians and our job easier. Hope you enjoy this as much as we love playing this venue!
The Sound Couple primarily use PreSonus gear featuring:
PreSonus UC Surface
PreSonus CDL12
PreSonus CDL18s
PreSonus 32R
PreSonus SW5E
PreSonus NSB Stageboxes
PreSonus AVB-D16
Please see our "About" for a more comprehensive list of gear we use.
The Sound Couple didn’t need Noah’s Ark at this gig, but with rain covers for the CDLs, a new iPad, and plenty of in-ears for the band, Bart and Stacy turned the production at this venue into a success.
Bart’s written on-screen comments help lead us through the many learning opportunities at this venue.
Thanks to The Sound Couple for another truly helpful and entertaining video.
Hi Dean - thank you as always, for your continued support. Every video is an adventure and it is interesting to see what we are able to extract, especially when we are unsure where it's going....some good stuff here.
I have a pair of sandals that I leave in the van. I know people like to leave flip-flops but those things are just not safe. Don't forget an extra pair of socks!!!! There's nothing like running around a wet gig getting in the car drying your feet out and putting fresh socks on for the way home.
Exactly!
BART those Tom’s sound huge !
Drummer made it easy and we just added the sugar!
absolutely loved the sound of just the drums and the acoustic.
The drummer was a sub that day....that kit was pure joy to mix! It was perfectly tuned for live sound!
In ears are the best we have one channel for the in ears on our sound board and it's been great.
It's our preference as well....but we need to be ready for both!
Hey Bart and Stacey, big hello all the way from the UK. Love your content keep it up.
Thanks Michael - that's the plan!
Thanks again Bart and Stacy. Once more the 7 P’s are as valid as they ever were. Putting out the spot fires is what our businesses are built on. 🤘best wishes from Peter in Australia.
Thank you Scott
Brasil marcando presença em todos os seus vídeos!!🎉🎉
Great idea with the old phones...
Thanks!
you are great, we are also a sound engineer and I love watching your videos
We appreciate the feedback...that helps us know we are on the right track!
Stacey, you are such a little work horse. I just started watching your video's and love them. My pool deck is a EV subs and heads and Yamaha mixers, but I still wish I had some of your equipment. You both have taught me so much. By the way, that was a great band/lead.
Appreciate the comments! Yes, I would agree...I would put her up against anyone on a load out! We feel so lucky to work with so many great bands and musicians!
Great gig Bart and Stacy, Im glad the rain didn't ruin your day.
You can tell we really like this venue...it's like our home a way from home..not perfect, but it's home.
Great episode!
Thank you Michael!
great show guys
Glad you enjoyed it!
I bet the old EAWs sounded good tho! I have a pair, don't use them much anymore but they do sound good!
Yes! We were all in these cabinets and were sad to see them go. We set a new direction switching to a more compact powered speaker so someone got a great deal on ours!
I love how we have some of the same racks! I run a smaller setup, and will be buying the PreSonus CDL10P speakers to upgrade my Mains.
Let us know how the CDL10P's work out for you!
Thanks for the food ideas, also looking for practical things. I've had some good burgers but sometimes they're just two handed and you don't know until after you've ordered. I always tend to order some thing and have it finished just about after the band starts the first song back from break.
Good point - not only food that is not messy...but food that can sit for some time without issues.
Maybe start a tent company... Not as much fun but your stage stays dry. Rain gives me so much stress. Thank you for another great video.
Rain stresses us too! In this situation, if the band is covered and the customers aren't....it still isn't happening.
17:28 Dustin Lynch - small town boy mixed by Billy Decker..... i recognized this banger in the Backround hahaha, we sound guys hear also the same Music and i'm from Europe, love you guys
That's a good catch! We are lucky the UA-cam ears aren't that good!
Hey Bart & Stacy, big fan from Australia here. I’m only 14 and you guys have inspired me to start my own production business. Got any tips on how to successfully run my business?? Anything would help! 😊
Buy second hand gear ...you'll get so much more value for money... I started my local business in Aus at 17yrs And now after 5 years have Around $30K worth of decent gear spending nowhere near that much.. The main way I got clients was word of mouth and making good musician friends..
Best of luck :)
Agreed, second hand and check out local venues for what equipment you may need. E.g. a couple of JBL EON 15s and a couple of subs, plus stage monitors … or do you need to go big for heavy thumping bass gigs, or a couple of Bose Linear PAs with or without subs for acoustic/wedding music?
You can spend a lot of money starting up, so also look into what to buy and what to rent.
Bart & Stacy have a fairly minimal lighting rig, but it’s very effective band, but doesn’t replace a disco setup or lighting for presentations and conferences (which may also require video projection and vari-lights, plus lapel and table microphones.
Don’t borrow too much money to start with, don’t spend all your income on kit, and save for your taxes. Stay away from the alcohol and drugs. Coffee and sugar are bad enough! ;)
We couldn't agree more with everything said so far. Starting out is hard but exciting...and honestly, we can make things look easy, but the truth is, some of it is not. I can think of times when I should have been fired, I have lost the gig, or I have made people very unhappy....and I have had people thankfully give me another chance. This is all part of learning. The most important thing is to be humble and learn from your mistakes and be motivated to do whatever is needed to make sure the next gig goes better....and the fact is, it may not.
In our videos, we are in effect, showing you the end game which comes from our years of experience. We hope that our channel can help you learn by watching what we do and not do and perhaps accelerate your experience. If you have the the drive and skills, it doesn't take years but doing the best you can and being nice can go along ways. That's how we see this business working....your reputation and skill is key!
@@thesoundcouple thanks for all the tips really appreciate them!!
Good luck!@@jackcroker2687
Dam those drums sounded good!
They did and were tuned well!
Even before you had them up in the house I could tell they were going to sound good. Very well tuned, and great player
I've worked with the Barringer system and a little bit with the Avion system. It's nice but it puts all the control on the artist. I really like the hybrid approach because it still lets me jump in and see, here and adjust. Good point about setting it not to turn off forgot about that, that's a pretty good reason on its own.
Thanks!
Yeah I know that feeling. Had a one day of a multi weekend gig this year get canceled due to concerns of heat/ humidity. I was looking at the weather thinking well it's gonna be terrible during Soundcheck but once that's done it's gonna get really nice and sure enough that's what happened. The worst part I got there really early to set everything up before the heat came, which is exactly what happened. Than I had to tear everything down but we at least got to check a couple of things.
Thanks for sharing!
I hope you do more videos of the soundchecks!
That is very valuable feedback...thanks!
I like your mixing, maybe next video share us some tips for mixing too😊
Thank you for your feedback. We have covered many aspects of mixing over the course of our videos...but after thinking about your question, we may have drifted a bit on this topic. Will take note for the future! Our Fix My Mix video comes to mind as I really put myself out there in critique mode if you want to see some finer points of mixing! ua-cam.com/video/pRRbhSN48UI/v-deo.html. Also, Heated Sound Check specifically covers mixing topics too! ua-cam.com/video/G5pYgldmU6c/v-deo.html
Gran video como todos los que suban, siempre es grato ver sus aventuras. Estimados traigo una consulta a cuántos db como máximo llega su mezcla para que no clipeen los cdl 12, también tengo un par de ellos y mi mezcla en la midas MR 18 no llega ni a -10 db aparte que inserto un limitador a -1 db y las bocinas empiezan a clipear he podido controlar un poco subiendo el volumen de la bocina a +5 db y estoy pensando llegar a +10 db 😅, veo tus vídeos que no pasa eso con los indicadores LED.
Gracias por tu comentario. No creo que seguir subiendo el volumen de los altavoces sea, en última instancia, la solución. Sin ver cómo ejecuta su sistema, sólo puedo ofrecer algunas sugerencias. Es importante tener una estructura de ganancia adecuada en cada paso de la señal. Si no puede aumentar la ganancia maestra a la unidad, puede intentar reducir la ganancia de entrada en el canal y hacer que el atenuador del canal esté más a la unidad. Luego, a partir de ahí, suba el volumen maestro y finalmente ajuste la ganancia en el CDL a la salida necesaria y vea cómo funciona. Siempre y cuando no escuches distorsión o la luz del clip no esté fija, está bien si parpadea. También sugeriría probar con otro orador como referencia. El objetivo es conseguir que la ganancia de entrada, el atenuador de canal y la salida principal de los altavoces estén en buen equilibrio entre sí. Parece que estás ejecutando los canales y el altavoz con una señal activa. ¡Espero que esto ayude!
The Band Is Chris Talley And The Three Rivers Cooperative, Bluegrass Is A Real Challenge For A PA
Tried your use the microphone stand to move the cable trick and it works amazing!! Better than standing on a chair and trying to reach!
LOL! That's awesome!
Thanks again Bart and Stacy. The drum sound is top notch. Haven't you thought about buying sliding surfaces to slide divers on wheels and avoid steps? Best wishes for a Merry Christmas from Gorizia, Italy.-
Yes, we know someone that actually does it at this venue. For us, it's just more to carry and store. With the two of us, we just want to get in and out...this is a low budget gig! Thanks for continued support!
Pros. Unlike the hacks I ran sound for. Showed up an hour early, getting in my way on stage, and making all sorts of ruckus, and they were the 3rd band up! Then had the gall to complain when technical difficulties arose, in part because of their interuption!
It happens...sometimes things just don't "click" and you get rattled. It can feel like all eyes are just waiting for you to screw something up...In some sad way, it could be a protection mechanism as they are looking for an excuse for their own fear or insecurity. We believe that type of energy can cause situations like yours to manifest.
wow. eaw's. what's the saying again ? extra added weight lol. my back still hurts from stacking kf850's. good show guys !
Oh man...never heard that one...that's too funny because it's so true! We will never forget the day a guy with a big truck backed into the driveway and took it all away...there was definitely some mixed emotions that day. From a fleet of speakers and amps to I think we have one QSC amp laying around somewhere....never looked back!
If you haven't (and get a chance) try an Audix D6 on the kick.
Yep! That's what our frequent customer Rhino uses!
I wouldn't mind a video of what gear you used to use.
We dropped heavy amps (EV P2000 and P3000 with EV X(i) Array series 31:17 ) somewhere around 2003/2004 went all in on d&b D12s en Q-series with Max for monitors when needed.
We were already using digital mixers by then.
I quit somewhere 2010/2011 after just being fed up with it but we were still using the good old Par 56 and Par 64 back then, accompanied by the obligatory moving heads and more than adequate stage lights for front lighting.
We have thought about it and do have some ideas so it's on the list of future videos. We still have some par 38's and 46's, but the rest of aluminum cans we literally gave them away, including dimmer packs....There was a lot of money invested in those!
Hi I would like to know details of your IEM setup. love your videos.
We run everything off of our PreSonus mixer. Combination of wireless/wired (PSM 300's/Donner EM1, or PreSonus HP2). We supply iPhones running Q-Mix so the musicians can control their mix. Default is mono mix or stereo by request. We are limited as to how many wireless stereo mixes we can provide. In total, we can provide 5 wireless mono mixes and a handful of wired mixes...we have never not had enough!
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Sounded great! Maybe I missed it, what's the name of the band?
The band is Coyote Wild.
Can you link 2 channels together in a stereo pair so you only need to push 1 fader when boosting guitar for a solo? I noticed you pushing Left and Right separately.
Thanks for the great video! Still looking forward to catching you live sometime.
Yes! I just didn't that day because it fell on an even channel. However, the problem with linking is that you can't pan it then...not sure what to think about that....especially when that's what they want to do in the in-ears.
@@thesoundcouplethat is the odd thing with PreSonus, not being able to pan when stereo linked, when Allen & Heath lets you pan when they're linked! I switched from Allen & Heath to PreSonus a while ago though!
Very interesting...thank you for sharing!@@XIIMonkeysMusicGroup
That's funny the video I was watching before this I was literally making a comment about how ""helpful"" Siri is.....'t....
Siri can be very random sometimes!
At 15:15, can you tell us which setting of the effects you used on the SL III Fat channel and how much of it to make that dry vocal to wet?
All of your Effects (A,B, C, D) are all applied. Can you please explain where they are applied? To the Aux sends? If so, where and what those effects are and whats the order of their application? Thanks.
Please check out our Community page. We posted some screenshots and the proj/scene. We typically don't apply any FX to the Aux's.
Thanks Bart and Stacy! Question on the IEMs system... Are the iPhones connected to the 32r and controlling their own mixes? Can you add a little detail there? I think this is a great idea and time/back saver carrying in monitors. Also, this is my first seeing the Donner EM1. Pleasantly happy with them? Thanks again!!
Yes, we provide the iPhones so they can control their mix. That is the nice feature of the PreSonus system is that you can assign the mixes with permissions so the musicians are only presented with their own mix. The Donner EM1's are working great. They do have a built in rechargeable battery, so you may or may not like that. Our experience with their batteries has been good so far with our DMX dongles so not worried about it. They have unfortunately, like a lot of things, have gone up in price, but still not a bad deal.
@@thesoundcoupleI have the Rockville wireless DMX. Looks identical to your Donners, and knowing Chinese mfg, likely are.
Yes, wouldn't be surprising.@@XIIMonkeysMusicGroup
24:10 how much improved is the 6th gen over the earlier gens? I’ve wondered about these. I’m still rocking a first and 5th gen iPads.
The only time(s) I have problems with the connection of my iPads to my router is when I’m at a show with 3000 people and I get too far from the router.
We are really happy with the our 6th gen. All of the issues we were having with wifi with the old one was the iPad. It is doing just fine in its new role as home use, but we believe the wifi on it was not up to par with other Apple products or our other devices....It took us a long time to be convinced of that.
Hadir from indonesia
I just seen them myself they are new but I would love to know your opinion on the new cdl10ps
I wish we knew too! From what we can see, it looks like a real nice addition to the series....nice for smaller gigs or for some of the wedding stuff we do. The subs definitely look thumping as well!
for the mix you said you run stereo do you ever run mono and for vocals what reverb and delay you use there is lots of kinds like room and stage reverb and delay echo tap do you think digital sounds better than anlog mixer or is it just easer to set up with digital i think anlog mix sounds more nature and digital sound like a robot what do you think ps thanks for your time to rec
We will attempt a follow-up post with settings, etc. Keep an eye out for that! For live sound, we are all in digital...the sound quality is certainly up for debate, but considering all factors, digital allows us to do our job way better. We couldn't do what we now do with an analog console....digital set us free!
Question about the CDL12, I am looking to get a pair but folks that have them seem to complain about the early clipping how do you get around that?
We ignore it...ha ha! Seriously, we kind of do....I remember with other speakers we had, the manufactures were very conservative on their limits, etc. We feel the same way with these...we look at it as we are reaching the threshold, but we will run them there if we need to....so far, they have taken it.
Hey Bart can you show us the eq you put on your drums…the kick sounds amazing
Since we save the scenes from all of shows, we should be able to recall and can post them....stay tuned for that. This kit did sound great, so it makes our job much easier when the source is good.
I love when drummers know how to tune it makes our job as engineers easy.
That's for sure!@@ryandavis317
and I got a job with 27 steps last weekend kkkkkkk
And that’ll be an extra amount! The things we get ourselves into…
Please tell me what are you using for internet. What router and what internet provider.
We use an AT&T NETGEAR Nighthawk M6. Our main system Wi-Fi router is configured with to a wireless WAN bridge that connects to the Nighthawk wirelessly. With this configuration, all of our devices on our network have Internet access.
@@thesoundcouplethank you so much
Mind sharing the band name?
Coyote Wild