The SC - The Big Barn Wedding!
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- Опубліковано 7 січ 2024
- The Sound Couple heads off across the border to South Dakota for a big barn wedding!
Hosting a gig at a non-venue venue can always come with some big challenges. As a production team, we need to be prepared and be able to adapt to the environment that is provided. This is a great example of how both sides came together to pull off a successful event!
Lot's of good info and sites in this video, so we hope you enjoy!
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I do sound locally and my wife also comes to help me. I love seeing a couple like you work together. Great stuff!!!
We have had other similar comments over the years....it's good to know that other couples are out doing this too!
The keyboard player using an extra keyboard stand to have the wedge closer to them is genius...
It's really cool when you all notice something we didn't. Thanks!
Out of everything, the "stand maintenance" segment got my like. Little things like that make a huge difference.
Yes they do..we really believe in taking care of our gear within reason. Presentation makes a difference and from the moment we drive up...we are being judged.
That's great. People keep you two busy. No complaints. Thanks for sharing.
We like to stay busy! Thanks for taking the time to watch!
Hello Stacy and Bart, you are wonderful, congratulations on the excellent work.
Thanks so much for watching! We enjoy sharing our adventures with the UA-camVerse!
great as always
We try to keep it interesting...but we never know what will happen until it happens!
Great tips. Thanks for sharing.
Appreciate it Dennis!
" I was given the option to use that (points to a jet engine right behind the band) and......I will use the Pecron"
lol
LOL! You read between the lines...just in case it wasn't clear to all, that's what they call a hard pass!
Great episode! The Pecron is impressive.
It is...we are very happy with it. Long term, we don't know yet, but we are taking care of it per their instructions.
With a room and band on the long wall you’ll cover toasts/announcements 1000% better by adding a pair of fill speakers on the same long wall. Shut them off during the band but they’ll carry a lot of weight during spoken word parts of the night. Doesn’t have to be big speakers too. Last wedding I did used a pair of Alto TS308s. Usually use a JBL or EV monitor on a stand
Totally understanding what you are saying...but that extra was not included in production budget. The client gets use to the "bands" PA for speeches and toasts which is a complementary service (we receive no additional pay for doing this)....In a perfect world with better budgets and attention to detail, these types of details would get discussed amongst the organizers. That said, we covered the room adequately...much better than some of the house provided systems we have experienced as of late!
@@thesoundcouple no doubt. I also don’t itemize fills on wedding gigs but my overall rate and number of events have gone up after making these adjustments. I also have a rate for ceremony as well as cocktail and dinner systems as well. Last summer I did one (i did a yt setup vid too) where there were 2 small systems (xr16 2 EV sx300 each) and started w ceremony, the cocktail on system2, system1 moved to dinner music then band PA took over at the end. Those small systems made as much as the main PA, and I did it all myself. Damn that was a long day tho! Anyway, thanks for the vids, neat to see how others do it
Thanks for sharing and it was neat to see what you got going on!@@MrSamsstudios
Thank goodness the barn had some acoustic help from the drapes and ceiling drops. It would have been much harder to pull a good mix otherwise. Overnight travel from a gig is best avoided if possible but sometimes necessary. As you know, take it steady and a few breaks keeps you safe. Thanks for another interesting video 🖖
You are very welcome and thanks as always for watching and letting us know how we are doing....very helpful! This was a unique "venue".
Hey Bart and Stacy, one solution to the IEM pack loose volume control knob problem is to buy some very thin rubber washers the same diameter as the volume knob. Then, you simply take off the knob, put the rubber washer underneath, and then replace the knob pushing it down on the washer until it has a good resistance. It's now adjustable but won't turn accidentally. I've been doing this for years with my IEM packs. Works great!
Funny you mention that....we were thinking the same thing. That knob has to come off, but it really seems on there so became hesitant as to not wanting to break it. Are you saying the knob comes off and put on without a problem if you pull on it hard enough?
@@thesoundcouple Yes. If you have a small, thin blade screwdriver you can use that to gently pry around the knob to help lift it up. Shouldn't be a problem.
That makes sense. Thanks for the tip!@@1minn1
It looked like The sound was captured from Back-stage I mean the live stream we Are getting It also looks loud In the Room.
The sound you are hearing is generally sourced from the active camera angle.
Nice Glasses, Stacy
Wow! That's a good catch. She wears them at times when the contacts are not working well.
Hey Bart and Stacy…with regards to the volume knob on the Shure PSM pack, D’Addario make the LOKNOB.
I’ve actually just ordered one to try out as I am not sure if they fit, but for $10 it might solve the problem.
I’ll let you know
Love the content!
Very interesting....please let us know as this looks like it could be a great solution!
Will do!
I have ran huge areas with less Bart.i have used evox 12s for a 400 wedding lots of compliments .
That's great Ronald...we have heard good things about those cabinets!
It was of a bit of a distance to drive-from central-eastern Minnesota all the way west across the border into South Dakota. But, for those of us who closely follow the adventures of The Sound Couple, the long trip out and back home was well worth it. This video contains a significant number of opportunities to learn through observing Bart and Stacy solve somewhat unique problems and ultimately provide production at the height of professionalism. I always appreciate the time that Bart takes to show us how he sets up the mixer. I also always learn from the sound check portion of the video.
Kudos to both Bart and Stacy for another excellent example of how they bring their keen understanding of production to an unusual venue. The importance of working smoothly with the musicians and, ultimately, pleasing the client shines through in this video.
aahhh...thanks Dean! We were thinking of you when we decided to make that drive home...Stacy will bring up your name when I attempt stupidity as you are always the voice of reason and common sense. Anyway, the only thing I can say is that I have years of experience driving late nights, but it's getting harder to do as the years pass and my brain has some catching up to do to my body. We do know when to pull over. Anyway, it was a great gig and do agree there were a lot of good things to share...take care!
Create a PDF document that you can email to venues when they don’t believe you when you tell them how many circuits you need.
I’m going to do the same.
For my basic system, I require a minimum 6, 20 amp circuits.
I’m gonna take a look at all the spec sheets for my equipment and type up what 70% power requires for amperage per item.
Totally get what you're saying, but this can be a tug of war event...if others can do it, we have to as well and we have the gear that can. Laying down the law on requirements can backfire. Instead, we prefer to flex to what is provided...we just did a wedding this past weekend on two circuits....if we only had one, we could have done that if we needed to. The requirements are stated in the contracts and if we get less, then so do they...and in the unfortunate event of failure, it's on them, not us. Our power needs have drastically reduced over the years which allows us to be more competitive and less of a hassle to the clients who don't always understand or want to pay for additional power. At the end of the day, everyone seems just as happy. Understood where there are events where this approach will not work and you simply need the power.
In the PSM300 bodypacks there should be a setting that could lock all controls. Meaning if a musician is happy with there overall level, they can "disable" there volume knob by locking the controls.
Great tip...thanks!
Really nice job. I love working barn/warehouse events; being there from the start to the end seeing the shell of a venue, it becoming something special and then going back to being a shell... There's really something special about being a part of those events. One of the venues I've attended that used to have awful sound (no thanks to the floor) is Wembley Arena. I very recently learned that there used to be a swimming pool under the arena floor that hadn't been used for years. It was an awful bass trap that made the whole place resonate low end, to the point where it would take all of the intelligibility out of the music. Until last year, I hadn't been there since 2007, vowing I would never return because of how awful it sounded. The place has been re-done and the pool has been filled in, it sounds marvellous now.
We can appreciate unique venues as well...thanks for sharing!
@@thesoundcouple Just watched the tail end of the video. I often find when I finish a gig late, I do the opposite to what you did. I tend to go to the gig and think "it's only a three hour drive, I'll head home afterwards". Last Saturday we were part-way home, and decided "let's check into a hotel", and we were glad we did. :) My partner and I aren't married yet, but she comes with me on most gigs and helps out.
It's a tough balance sometimes...time, safety and $$.@@johnmcquay82
@@thesoundcouple I agree, a very tough call on occasions.
Muchas gracias por mostrar y contar sus experiencias, saludos desde Chile.
¡De nada! Realmente apreciamos que se haya tomado el tiempo de mirar y esperamos que nuestros videos sean interesantes para que los vea y aprenda. ¡Cuidarse!
Love it guys, for psm300 are they good for like Main monitoring usually I mix from the side if there’s no spot to mix and it’s hard to hear it and also is it good for playing music on drums too cause I love playing on drums and lastly any ways to add like Punch and attack of the kick too cause I been struggling to get that but I always think it’s not having a lot of attack
We got the PSM300 originally just for that reason. After the Fix My Mix video, I decided I need a better monitoring system and went with the in-ear system...so yes, mixing off it is a thing and we do it responsibly. For kick drum mics, we are always partial to our Shure Beta 52, but in later videos, you will see that we started to use our Sennheiser e901. Technically, I still prefer the Beta 52 and it's more forgiving and flexible, but the e901 is less hassle and is out of the way on small stages...so the tradeoff is worth it in most situations. There are some drummers we will stick with our EV N/D 868 or Shure Beta 52...the Beta 52 and e901 both have that high snap more naturally. The 868 is a more flat mic that works better for softer applications or with a kick that doesn't need more attack.
I too will sleep an hour (or so) on the way home verses spending the night. Have you looked into the Xvive IEMs? Under $250 and both halves are usb recharged. They don't have the range of "better" IEMs. I work with several bands that use 2 to 5 of them. 8 channels to choose from.
We have looked at these. For us, they are no-go because they operate in the 2.4Ghz frequency range which we have our own equipment operating in that range and don't want to add more.
Just an idea if you know som one with a 3D printer to make like a sleave to go over the belt pack to protect the volume knob
Great thinking we do! - do you know of a pattern to work off of? 😄
Love your channel. Quick Question, what is the typical stage size that you work with? On average / most common?
We will typically see a 24X16 stage...that's the most common.
@@thesoundcouple thanks so much!!!
Great video once again!👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽. What Pecron are you using?
Ours is the E3000.
@@thesoundcouple thank you!!💯💯💯
I was a dj for 3 decades, I hated doing the wedding party introductions. The names, I would get these long ass last names that were tongue twisters
I am so glad that we are not tasked with that part! This process is not easy. As a DJ doing all of this yourself takes a lot of practice and skill.
I had a bad experience with staging and cables several years ago... I was working for a lighting company, lighting a pretty high profile bar mitzvah, and after they had setup the lights, they ended up putting another row of decking in front of what they already had, and somewhere along the way, it ended up on top of a power cable running from stage left to right, and about halfway through the night, it cut through the cable, and I lost half the movers in my lighting rig, and blew the fuses on the lights as well, so I couldn't just run new power to them mid show...
Wow Dustin...that sounds like a nightmare! Speaking of blowing fuses..I remember tapping in to 3 phase power, and not realizing what I did, popped some fuses on amplifiers...lesson learned! Even though it's a relatively easy fix, replacing fuses is not something that can be done mid show...we feel your pain!
@@thesoundcouple I’m just glad it wasn’t my name on the gig. I wasn’t part of the setup crew, nor was it my company.
I’m no lighting guy, I was just helping a buddy out who runs a lighting shop
There is always value and perspective gained by experiencing situations and not always being the one in the hot seat. In our spin cycle video a few back, I mentioned the projector issues they were having. It wasn't our problem, but it got pretty tense there for a bit as they troubleshooted it. We did step in to offer some suggestions which was helpful as we weren't the ones under pressure. I have been the recipient of that aid as well which can be a relief when you are stressed and maybe not thinking as clearly as you should.@@dustinthiessen
Great stuff but why there never a number 12 input
Technically, it's there. Channels 11&12 were stereo linked so channel 12 was on the "right" tab on the channel screen on the Left and Right tabs.
What is the name of your table that you usually put your racks on? It's collapsible when not in use.
Here is a link to a similar table: www.amazon.com/dp/B097Q8Z9XV/?coliid=I3HHGUYJB2D8YC&colid=2NLB7HPLXSQ32&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Do you have an Amazon/Sweetwater link to all your Presonus/Pecron gear? It would be a nice add on and maybe profitable for the channel. Love the channel. "Welcome to Minnesota!" cracked me up.
That's not a bad idea. We do provide links to the new gear we talk about in our videos. We are not sponsored our receive any compensation from any of the products we use, we are just sharing our experiences with all of you to hopefully help out with some things to survive in the real world.
That's a back up cam .. I never knew what that large screen was on the dash.
Correct...the truck pre dates any of that technology. We have had for a few years now! ua-cam.com/video/P3pAGSADtVg/v-deo.html
Do you know how the Presonus sound compared to the EV ETX line?
Sorry...we have not used the EV cabinets!
I’m waiting for a review of the new PreSonus CDL 10P for you
Appreciate your vote of confidence...we would love to if given the opportunity!
I just bought my 1st pair of CDL10P. Plan on buying at least 3 more pairs!
You use the power bank in all low, mid, monitor, lights settings. Everything on stage? Alternated with the local energy,. Saludos desde Yumbo Colombia "Send Amplificacion"
The Pecron power station at this gig powered one stage monitor, all backline/stage gear and rear lighting. It could have done more!
Hey Bart what heavy duty stands do use for the big stage lights. I recently bought a pair of RCF Art 932a speakers and need something that’s going to be able to handle 41 #’s. Thanks
Those are Ultimate Support TeleLock lighting stands. They have really worked well for us over the years and have never failed.
Ultimate TS90 for speakers and TS99 for lightning. I use extension poles to get lights higher. You can use legs from on stage stands that broke.
Hey Bart and Stacey,Really love you videos,what's your opinion on The EV Etx for a five piece band
We haven't used those speakers so can't comment based on any experience with them. To offer you some advice...focus more on the application (e.g. types of venues) and the style of music to help determine you PA needs. Are you a 5 piece blue grass band or a 5 piece metal band? How loud is the band on stage? Will the PA need to overcome a loud drummer? Guitar? Are you outdoors or playing in venues with concrete floors, metal roofs, and glass walls. All of these factors play a bigger role than the size of your band. We like EV products and any of cabinets can be a good choice if they are the right ones for you...they all sound good in their respective categories. Just don't ask any cabinet to do more than it was designed to....generally, size does matter when it comes to speakers, but some of the newer speakers, like the column arrays, are putting that theory to the test by packing a good punch out of a small footprint.
@@thesoundcouple - I bought a pair of EV Evolve 50s last spring and have used them WAY more than I thought I might. Especially on top of 18" subs. I'm certainly getting my money's worth out of them!
Enjoyable video as always.
Thanks for sharing Joel!@@joelglaser5657
Hey sc great show... How do you'll run ur subs
We turn them on and go! We crossover at 90Hz.
I remember the first time my psm300 did that, I was wearing a leather jacket and my sound got extremely loud and then super quiet. It took me a while to understand why it was happening.
Do you have any issue with the CDLs flashing the clipping light? I hear that can be an issue.
We have received some good tips in the comments! Yes, the CDL's seem overly conservative on their clip lights...we don't concern ourselves that much with it. I think we have demonstrated what they can do over the years and we have never had a problem with any of them.
I just bought the CDL10P to replace my Mackie DLM12. Need more CDL10P speakers though as funds permit!@@thesoundcouple
We saw your post on FB...they look nice! Keep us posted on your progress!@@XIIMonkeysMusicGroup
Remove the knob off the PSM300 receiver packs! Simple solution?
This may be good for a personal solution, but we need a more refined approach as a service provider. But I know someone that I am going to make this suggestion to!
@@thesoundcoupleI have added a bit of stick-on felt on occasion to the knob to make more friction when turning.
Nice video, I really don't see how you guys play songs by going to iTunes and other apps for music that would drive me batty.
There are probably better apps (geared more for D.J.) that make it easier for transitions, but when you need to transition from one playlist to the next, this works!
Hey mark...I'm new to this gig...I want to no..I have a system with one amp and controller...I have two cabinets that hold 15" subs and my tops are 15. And a hone..
What's your question?
I don't know what system to run for a wedding
@@Paul-ze7fg Hi Paul - I am sorry that we are not able to be really specific to your situation, but there are several videos we have as well as DJ's that they share their weddings with us. Here are a few of our favorite channels: @DJ2Legit007, @DJRachelLynch, @djbrettly
2024 update to the setup,.........hmm ,freedom sticks on a man made arch(make stands from wood and connecting like a array setup ,making an arch.and put the lights on top.like a sun)......why not.?
That would look nice....but sounds like work!
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