Can This Historic Sea Fishing Venue Still Deliver?

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  • @SaltwaterAngler
    @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

    Just check out some of the comments from the Awesome Saltwater Anglers below ⬇️ arrow we have a solution to todays problems and some incredible stories from back in the day. WELL DONE YOU LOT⤵️

  • @markfouracres2459
    @markfouracres2459 3 місяці тому +5

    Hi lovely video many thanks, I spent a great deal of my childhood on dengmarsh , the gallerways and dungeon ness point fishing with my father I’m 70 now and still fishing, but as you know the fishing back then was wonderful, we had a caravan at winchelsea so every school holiday was on the beach, wonderful wonderful memories, tight lines Will

  • @leoncox2405
    @leoncox2405 3 місяці тому +2

    Your right mate I love the weather, out there in the elements just makes it more grounding more at one with the world

  • @djsimonrossprice9400
    @djsimonrossprice9400 3 місяці тому +6

    Couple of little stories of dungie my friend george fished it regularly in the 1970s... its heyday.
    He fished it the day before Christmas eve 1977 he fished his favourite spot as not too many out there and had one of those red letter days.
    He had losfs of fish up to 18lb, i believe that day was his biggest.
    Now George was a grizzly bear of a man and could cast well over 100 yds with the south African/ back cast..
    Coming of the beach he noticed someone had written
    MERRY CHRISTMAS 1977 in meter high letters with CODS HEADS...Each head TOUCHING..😮
    Some catch hey ???.
    ( i wonder by how many anglers..😂).
    But that was typical of those who could hit the DUSTBIN at dungie... if you couldn't reach it forget it, you'd only get the scraps and the odd fish...
    My second story is about why so many cod there were at Dungie and why they disappeared...
    Sorry but quite lengthy to explain...
    1. Why so many.
    In the early 1940s ( 43 i believe, could be wrong).
    The winter was one of the worst on record the thames AND parts of the channel actually froze...!!!!😮
    The exact same winter was had again in 1963....
    Big deal i hear you say, well these two extreme winters were both responsible for the cod EXPLOSION can't call it anything less.
    These two winters were so cold it drove the baby cod predators out into much deeper water mackerel AND herring, thus allowing the cod young to survive in much greater numbers, thus growing on to maturity. This knock on effect lasted for decades well through the 50s / 90s.... sadly as technology improved on the trawlers it was only a matter of time before they were wiped out.
    The exact same thing happened of the Grand banks / Flemish cap of the eastern American seaboard. They too wiped out their golden goose.. all down the eastern coast fishing communities were wiped out...
    So why didn't they come back in the same numbers ??
    When a mature female cod spawns she lays about 250,000 eggs ONLY 6 of those will get to breed themselves...!!!!! Yeah some stat hey ?.
    In the egg d.n.a blueprint is where that fry will need to travel to its feeding /breeding grounds.
    ( same with salmon).
    Going from Stream to open sea back to stream to breed n die..
    Clever hey ?.
    So these are clever AND a weakness as fish become creatures of habit and that IS they're downfall...
    When they get wiped out by commercial boats they're numbers get to such a critical level that they can be totally cleared out of an area. Add in factory ships that sit mid channel and are fed by smaller boats its a wonder they lasted as long as tgey actually did...
    But why don't they come back ?
    Simple two reasons one the boats have now more technology than the space programme and even if we did have cold enough winters and spawning was good they'd never make it to maturity.. last cold enough winter to my mind was 2010.... FOURTEEN years ago...
    This all came not from me but a very good friendbwho works as a fishery scientist for the government.....a very knowledgeable man... so foljs there you have it that's why those halcyon days of the 60s / 90s days will NEVER come back... 😢

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому +1

      Fantastic commenting here - we all appreciate this input I’m sure

    • @djsimonrossprice9400
      @djsimonrossprice9400 3 місяці тому

      ​@SaltwaterAngler my pleasure buddy.. sadly looks like most of us missed the boat here.. although I'm 65 I was to far away to fish it. ( Bristol)...
      😢

    • @cliffwinch3795
      @cliffwinch3795 3 місяці тому +1

      .

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      @cliffwinch3795 man of few words !

  • @captainstevecook
    @captainstevecook 3 місяці тому +2

    Well done for sticking it out Matt, not the easiest of conditions the wind really wears you out. Really enjoyed seeing that small Bass, perfection in miniature.🎣🎣🎣👍

  • @kevincurtis9021
    @kevincurtis9021 3 місяці тому +3

    Remember coming down in the 50s with dad and the fishermen carrying the cod of the beach hanging on poles.Used to get really big channel whiting as well,happy days bait used to freeze up,ice forming on the line but great memories looking back.

  • @leoncox2405
    @leoncox2405 3 місяці тому +2

    It just feels like you against the world makes u feel so small in the grand scheme of things and that’s what I love man

  • @ironix1
    @ironix1 3 місяці тому +1

    Nice one Matt. That place can be one of the wildest points on the South coast, and not for the faint hearted when it gets stormy, and in fact quite dangerous. I've had some lovely fish there and even seen shoals of Harbour porpoises a couple of times, recently. Had some epic winter catches at night in the 80's/90's and even on the boats, back in the day. It used to be 'shoulder to shoulder' and definitely one of the best venues in the south, only beaten by the Dover breakwater, and Chesil on occasion. Good luck & keep em coming!

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      Thanks mate that’s a good way to explain it. I used to fish the southern at diver a lot - the concrete boat ! Alas no more

  • @kieranmitchell9316
    @kieranmitchell9316 3 місяці тому +4

    Great video! Was lucky enough to catch a 58cm cod at Seaford last Saturday, never expected that😮

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому +1

      Fantastic ! Seems like they are not confined to one area

    • @kieranmitchell9316
      @kieranmitchell9316 3 місяці тому

      @@SaltwaterAngler Yes, it’s great to see them around👍

  • @nicholascavie2464
    @nicholascavie2464 3 місяці тому +1

    Awesome Matt, caught some good fish there, in my teens, caught bigger cod from old Hastings pier, Warrior square, and St Leonards Church 😊 Happy catching from Australia Nick 🇦🇺

  • @Marco_Polo790
    @Marco_Polo790 3 місяці тому +2

    Dungeness is my and families favourite fishing location ,just love it ,going there Saturday :)

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      Nice one let us know how you all get on please 🙏

  • @BYF1
    @BYF1 3 місяці тому +1

    I remember fishing near there with my uncle, he got a birdie and only went out about 25metres, 5 minutes later reels in a 6lb cod. That section is usually very good Bass spot on the flood, can be tough fishing, sometimes need a fixed grip nose wire weight to combat weed and tide and casting out upside. Thanks for the video very well done.

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      Thank you , appreciate getting these tips ! I think the codling come in closer than folks expect

  • @OffshoreNath
    @OffshoreNath 2 місяці тому

    Only fished it the once about 5 years ago with my lad who was 8 at the time and his first sea fishing trip, had a few whiting throughout the day and then last cast a 7lb Bass all on one of the hottest days of the year. Got the lad hooked after that.

  • @brianpask8955
    @brianpask8955 3 місяці тому

    Got to love a session at Dungie. I've not managed to get out there for a couple of years so its nice to see you there buddy. Interesting to see a codling coming up and I cant believe you have broken a rod tip!!!!!!!

  • @theplanetofcats6
    @theplanetofcats6 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video 👍

  • @tonycamplin8607
    @tonycamplin8607 3 місяці тому +2

    I horrified how the fishing there has deteriorated so drastically over the years, especially as you said that you'd done well! The last time I fished there would have been at the end of the 1950s, back then you'd have caught dozens of double figured cod, even better later on in the season. My local fishmonger or chippy always bought my surplus fish so that covered my costs. Sorry about the rod, if you're broken others your casting is definitely at fault, you're probably putting too much force in initially rather than building the power up. I've never seen anyone break a rod like that. It's an easy repair though, if the rod is hollow then just slide the broken end in from the thick end and epoxy it in place. It wont affect the rods performance at all. If it's a solid tip then either use it shorter or replace the whole top. Really love the videos they bring back so many happy memories. After the 1950s I gave up fishing for a while, in the 1960s I found other things to do!!

  • @davetevens5080
    @davetevens5080 3 місяці тому +1

    Brilliant video as usual Matt. Not been there myself looks great. Shame about the rod.😊😊

  • @allenbrown8158
    @allenbrown8158 3 місяці тому +5

    my god the last time I fished there was 40 years ago a 12hr session produced 23 codling, those days are long gone. its a bloody long trip from south Wales.

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому +1

      Ha ha ! Happy days indeed Sir. south wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Must have it’s good good days still though?

    • @tedasher6081
      @tedasher6081 3 місяці тому

      Very similar with me but l traveled from Southampton.

    • @johntonkin516
      @johntonkin516 3 місяці тому

      I still drive to Pembrokeshire every year for a holiday but always love my fishing there... scenery is better too... unfortunately it doesn't matter where you fish now the numbers are small as are the fish..poxy factory ships sucking the sea dry

  • @stephenboreham9056
    @stephenboreham9056 3 місяці тому +2

    Nice fishing there and still fishing there.our grand Lodge of England was the old church of dungeness there.the Buffs R.O.A.B number 9986 much respect to them.😊

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      Now this is the sort Dungeness History is rife with ! Thanks 🙏

  • @gamerjay9296
    @gamerjay9296 21 день тому

    Great video. Just positive point. Lower the rod tip to the direction you want the lead to go. It'll put less pressure on the rings and the tip

  • @hesalovelybuoy5944
    @hesalovelybuoy5944 2 місяці тому +1

    please could you make a video on how to use a SPINNING ROD for bait fishing? Like light bait fishing for anything that bites, or wintertime fishing. thanks

  • @eddybooth1
    @eddybooth1 3 місяці тому +1

    Hi Matt, what a desolate, strange, beautiful, place this is.
    Chip shop is good though😂

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      Indeed, love a chip shop recommendation though

  • @stevesmith782
    @stevesmith782 3 місяці тому +2

    Good video, i fish dungeness alot , still some good fish there to be caught. Galloways a bit furthur round is great for bass with oncoming wind

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      Appreciate that thanks. I’ve had bass from Galloways and love watching those waves roll through

  • @jimdavids6708
    @jimdavids6708 3 місяці тому +1

    Used to fish there in the 70’s as a teenager, was not very good at casting, the cod were 100+ yards out, caught a few but mostly dabs and the odd bass by the power station outlet. Boat fishing there was another story altogether. Captain Ginger Gary used to put us on big cod wrecks, using muppets and perks in the summer and up tiding in the winter, never had a blank and often dozen or more big cod to 30 LBS, double figure bass, turbot and tope, sole and place.

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      Lovely to hear this and the story’s about 70s dingoes thank you

  • @eyemstillhear
    @eyemstillhear 2 місяці тому

    Nice one Will...I remember angling competittors, back in the late 70's, walking back with their catch after a competition along the promenade at Lee on Solent...Cod they had to lift that measured from their hips to their feet !!! Gone, long gone those days. Here on the the flat sands of the Normandy beaches, its mullet on bread or vary small bass on rubber lures. How far are you casting (approx in meters) with those rods ? Im a beginner, Im getting 60m over here with a 20 gram head weighted lure.

  • @londonviking3801
    @londonviking3801 3 місяці тому

    Love fishing Dungeness - have had great success at The Boats myself.

  • @tellitlikeitis-rg4ny
    @tellitlikeitis-rg4ny 3 місяці тому +2

    Broke tip like that i cut it back a bit further and inserted a fiberglass tip lol , works a treat

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      Yes I might make it a fat close in conger rod I suppose ?

  • @GregPodster133
    @GregPodster133 3 місяці тому

    Great video, Matt. 👏👍

  • @petergarbutt9521
    @petergarbutt9521 3 місяці тому +2

    JUST HOT GLUE THE OLD EYE OR A NEW TIP EYE, ON THE BROKEN RODS TIPS, AFTER CUTTING THEM FLUSH, RODS SORTED, THEN STOP 18:04 DROPPING YOUR ROD ON THE FLOOR 🤣🤣... GREAT FEW HOURS FISHING... 23:02 THAT WAS A NOAA ( NATIONAL OCEANIC ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, US DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE) WEATHER INSTRUMENT... EXCELLENT VIDEO, STAY SAFE

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      Yes ! Definitely my clumsiness. Thanks for info regarding the NOAA - good input thanks

    • @tonycamplin8607
      @tonycamplin8607 3 місяці тому

      Hot gules will never last.

    • @petergarbutt9521
      @petergarbutt9521 3 місяці тому

      @@tonycamplin8607 I HAVE BEEN REPAIRING, SOME TIMES REPLACING THEM WITH NEW, (WITH NO CHARGE), CLIENTS TOP EYES ON THE BOAT, FOR MANY YEARS WITH HOT GLUE, AND WHEN THEY RETURN, ALWAYS SAY, "STILL OK SKIPPER'... SO CANNOT BE THAT UNRELIABLE... STAY SAFE

  • @johnweekes8497
    @johnweekes8497 3 місяці тому +1

    Went there twice last year early October we had 4 sizeble bass second time November dog fish every cast. But both times had the beach to our selves remember when you would struggle to get a spot. But good film

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      Thanks for your comment - Have definitely had a few mad dogfish sessions for sure- they seem to like the top of the tide

  • @paulstanley1594
    @paulstanley1594 3 місяці тому

    In the 60s I passed my driving test and one of the first things I did was take a drive down to Ramsgate with my girlfriend ( my future wife ) along with her sister and husband. Whilst we were there we saw people catching whiting from the promenade I thought that is something I must have a go at.my then future brother-in-law said the he had been to Dungeness before and you could catch cod there.being only 17 I had no chance of buying a sea fishing rod but being a practical lad I was able to convert an old solid fibreglass rod with the help of a broom handle into something that to me looking like what I thought a beach rod looked like. I was able to buy a cheap multiplier. Practicing in a field and after multiple birds nests and burnt thumbs it was time to have a go. The point was the place to go every body said so that’s where we headed my girlfriend and her sister carrying the sandwiches and flasks my future brother-in-law and me carrying our rods and homemade tackle boxes the beach was full of other anglers with hardly a gap for us to fish in but we managed to squeeze in somehow. We had been there a while not catching anything and a big bloke with glasses wandered over and started to talk about fishing in general and that he knew some divers that had been diving off Dungeness and they had told him that the sound of all the leads and tackle hitting the water made a horrible lot of noise and it’s a wonder the fish stay in the area. He looked at my home made rod and said with a smile on his lips he would like to see it with a ten pound cod on the end of the line.I realised some time later
    after reading an Anglers Mail and seeing a photo of the bloke on the beach that it was the
    legendary Leslie Moncreff. Over the following years we did catch several good cod the most
    memorable was when I caught five cod in an evening session with a total weight of 75 pounds

  • @ogstopper
    @ogstopper 3 місяці тому

    I last fished Dungeness as a newbie in the early 1970s. I caught a weever!

  • @davidbarnes241
    @davidbarnes241 3 місяці тому +2

    Last time I fished there I had 40+ schoolie bass, not my kind of thing but it still shows results if you’re lucky. Sadly the mackerel came through and a massive shoal was reduced to nil by the time they’d run the gauntlet.

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому +1

      Interesting - I think the tides keep those bass close in -did those bass come on a spring tide ?

    • @davidbarnes241
      @davidbarnes241 3 місяці тому

      @SaltwaterAngler
      Yes, big Springs and a long walk along the shingle though.
      Very close in and struggle to find decent sized ones. All returned to grow bigger and hopefully avoid the omnipresent trawlers.

  • @stephenphillipsargeant7475
    @stephenphillipsargeant7475 3 місяці тому

    I used to fish the diamond and go round to the point a low water when it was south westerly in winter caught my biggest cod 24 pounds on a whiting livebait those where the good old days

  • @robregist
    @robregist 3 місяці тому +1

    Enjoyed that! And the comments. So, what happened to the cod? Over fishing back in the day? The"cod war"? Climate?

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      Yea I’m inclined to think that it’s not just one reason

  • @buckrogers2828
    @buckrogers2828 3 місяці тому +2

    That tip if you look back a bit further was already twisted

  • @stiofain4693
    @stiofain4693 3 місяці тому +1

    Excellent video, hard going but truly enjoyable…
    How would you recommend to fish murky estuaries…. Any change in baits etc… many thanks..

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      Thanks for the comment - I’m not that experienced in estuaries to answer that with any real Authority . Although I would say have the confidence that fish will find a good bait trail in some really murky conditions. Conditions also very dependent on state of tide.

    • @stiofain4693
      @stiofain4693 3 місяці тому

      Thanks Mat, love the videos..

  • @stoney332
    @stoney332 3 місяці тому +1

    Not a bad session at all and the doggies finally turned up

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому +1

      Yea I’m guess they feed better around high. Could of continued and had dog and ting fest ‘

  • @viktornemeth6241
    @viktornemeth6241 3 місяці тому +3

    Don't remember how many times I been there this year. The fish hut always got the best bait around Kent. Last time porpoises were all around me and I capsized my kayak when one of them popped up next to me. I have lost two rods, so went to shore picked up surf rods. As soon as I made the first cast a seal swim by few feet from us parallel to the beach and he was looking at us with a face like "You ain't gonna catch anything today" 😂. It was like a zoo.

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      Love this - nature and wild Dungeness at its best thanks 😊 didn’t realise that about bait supply

    • @viktornemeth6241
      @viktornemeth6241 3 місяці тому

      @@SaltwaterAngler It's our local secret. 🤣 I'll bring some for you next time I'll be in Hastings.

  • @gbosman5874
    @gbosman5874 3 місяці тому +1

    What did you do that made the rod tip break? I did not see anything weird in the video.

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      Very true probably damaged from dropping rods

  • @colgele
    @colgele 3 місяці тому

    Going tomorrow for my first time 🤞

  • @paulhiggins8774
    @paulhiggins8774 3 місяці тому +1

    Lovely location and some good fishing. Shame about another rod 😢 bet your glad it wasn’t the Penn 👍

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      @@paulhiggins8774 it was the penn that snapped ! Will be scouring the second hand shops now for another rod

    • @AdrianM432
      @AdrianM432 3 місяці тому +1

      Did the rod break on the cast?

    • @paulhiggins8774
      @paulhiggins8774 3 місяці тому

      @@SaltwaterAngler send it back and get a new top section

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому +1

      I really don’t know there I was watching the rod and realised it didn’t have a tip !

    • @paulhiggins8774
      @paulhiggins8774 3 місяці тому

      @@SaltwaterAngler not a good advert for Penn 🤭 I’ve bashed my old Mitchell for decades and never had a problem

  • @JW-wp1qt
    @JW-wp1qt 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video Matt but you didn’t address an important question, was that a Greggs sausage roll featuring in the intro? 😊

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому +2

      Hmm I’m afraid it was a disappointing Morrisons jobby ! Left me feeling a little guilty - next time I will up my pie game

  • @PhozMix
    @PhozMix 3 місяці тому +1

    Went two weeks ago and caught more whiting than i could count

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      Yes they seem to come on as the tide gets high

  • @buckrogers2828
    @buckrogers2828 3 місяці тому +1

    Been down there when dustbins went over your head!
    Took half an hour or more to get from where you was to the car park on main road! wind was pushing you back.

  • @markpearcey-ph5nh
    @markpearcey-ph5nh 3 місяці тому +1

    Nip the tail off and bait up lugworm tail first, you'll blow less.

  • @martinhowes3577
    @martinhowes3577 3 місяці тому

    Just another typical day fishing there

  • @rfnrgj
    @rfnrgj 3 місяці тому +1

    Why did you soak your lug?

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому +1

      The un gutted live ones were to replace the water - keep them cold and so they don’t spoil in any juices

  • @matsmet
    @matsmet 3 місяці тому +1

    great content ! need a chin strap for that hat pal !!

    • @SaltwaterAngler
      @SaltwaterAngler  3 місяці тому

      Well spotted ! Yes one chin strap on order 🤣

  • @garyedwards8142
    @garyedwards8142 3 місяці тому +2

    Commercial fishing destroyed uk waters…we live in hope still…..👍

  • @Auqalungangler
    @Auqalungangler 3 місяці тому

    8 broken rods either you are doing something wrong or again ding something wrong buying cheap rubbish rods never broken a sea rod in 50years

  • @stilldiggin6015
    @stilldiggin6015 3 місяці тому +1

    my local spot! i had no luck the other day there but a few anglers around that way said the same thing