I re-watched this video, along with many other Cliff's others, numerous times over the past year. It's great to watch it and then go do some hunts or scouting and then come back for another watch. A great way to get practical perspective and application of his lessons.
Great tips that I'd have never thought of but all seem so obvious when you're saying them. The trick is keeping the right mentality and motivation. Its hard to think logically and rationally like this after days in the field.
Great video Cliff! I'm fairly new to western hunting as I grew up in central Illinois. This information and all the other videos you put out here is so great! Always no B.S. and straight to the point of getting the most success. I'll see how it all works out this fall with my Idaho cow elk hunt! Thank you
I just got home from day 1 of the hunt in a congested, hard-hit unit. Only doing it because of a cow tag. Had the place to myself more or less because nobody thinks this little area is worth a shit. I didn't find anything good at all until I was almost back to the trail, just barely out of sight of where day hikers trundle in and out. Huge frequently used bedding area in a thicket on top of a spring right where I thought there'd be a crossroads for them. Being a bit of a chonkass that's about as good as it's going to get for me in this unit before I try somewhere else. Not the first time I've found some promise in a spot people just run by. Bro after bro were hauling camps up to the higher tops on the 4x4 trail, claiming sites for the rut and rifle season. That's certainly where they mostly are right now, but I'm never going to get involved in the sxs arms race.
I swear the elk know that when those roads and camps get busy, they need to run. I personally find the places most humans won’t go and start there. Makes my tag soup more bitter after all the effort but I’m 50% on harvest rates throughout my 10 years hunting.
@@joshsmith3650 Nice. I've tried that in a couple places and found some animals but I see more on my way back to camp than in those places so far. I can't physically get too far for a bunch of reasons so I try to find the holes in the "normal" map that most people see that are within my radius. breaking down a hillside into its parts and figuring out where a nexus might be, if there is one. No kills yet but I've seen a lot up close for only 2 years and one day in.
@@joshsmith3650 one nice thing about where I live is that the roads are jamming all summer and most hunters do not get out of sight of their machines. I shot my first deer last year 200 yards from a dead end road that people were heater hunting all season. Huge buck. He learned to avoid the road and he was safe for 5 or more years.
@@jcarry5214 that’s awesome. I’ve walked past hunters who said they haven’t seen anything all day and found a dozen elk laying 40 yards off the trail about 1/4 mile past them lol. The three largest bucks I’ve seen have been driving back to camp at night (during elk season of course) lol.
Great breakdown of the new features that Onx didn't even advertise in the new features class I took with them a couple weeks ago. I also just talked to them today on the phone and it's unfortunate that they're making terrain X, aerial imagery, and even route building something you have to pay $100 for while go hunt has all that and more for 50 bucks and all states. I love my Onx but i will maybe spend the extra $50 trying a different system to compare both side by side this season before i upgrade my onx.
Hey Cliff, what tool allows you to see what is viewable from a location on the 3D map? The part where the map goes gray & colored areas are viewable from a point/location. Seems very helpful but I don't know what tool that is.
What part of Colorado are you familiar with is that the winnamenuch wilderness area I don’t know if this is spelled right I have lived and hunted south west Colorado
@@rorywhittington3906 Is that what it sounded like I was requesting? I’ve spent over 20 days IN the specific unit I have questions about. I’m looking for advice, not spots, dingus. This guy knows more about elk habits than anyone I know. Consider yourself blessed if you have anyone in your life with that wealth of knowledge.
I don’t have the budget for binos and a spotting scope. Would I be better off with 12x42s as a medium between spotter and 10x42? Or still just do 10s? (Not glassing thousands of yards) also not worried about looking at antlers much
I hear ya but from what perspective? Have you had issues with it or do you mean how the overall access to the data has changed Hunting? It surely has done that. Years ago I knew many “livestock drive” access points… a function of being a cattle ranchers kid. No one knew about those spots… little 400yd wide chunks of BLM that touched the rd. Those were secret back then…. Kinda comical to think about that now. Nowadays I never hunt without it.
@@CliffGray Well I made a reply earlier, but I guess youtube ate it. Kinda like how the mountain just ate my cow call yesterday. Shorter reply is overall access to data. OnX will help you find a spot, but it will also help others to find yours. The sword swings both ways.
It is so nice to get advice and tips from a real expert.
agreed. Someone who's done it all and doesn't have a name to make or anything to prove. Even though he's young. What a guy.
Thanks William. Appreciate the support for the channel.
I re-watched this video, along with many other Cliff's others, numerous times over the past year. It's great to watch it and then go do some hunts or scouting and then come back for another watch. A great way to get practical perspective and application of his lessons.
Great tips that I'd have never thought of but all seem so obvious when you're saying them. The trick is keeping the right mentality and motivation. Its hard to think logically and rationally like this after days in the field.
Really good hands on information. Priceless!
Great video Cliff! I'm fairly new to western hunting as I grew up in central Illinois. This information and all the other videos you put out here is so great! Always no B.S. and straight to the point of getting the most success. I'll see how it all works out this fall with my Idaho cow elk hunt! Thank you
Excellent info. Always learning more with you. Thanks!
Glad to hear it! 👍 thanks
Thank you for sharing this great information 👍
My pleasure, glad it’s useful
thanks man. I'm really focusing on moving from one glassing spot to the next
I just got home from day 1 of the hunt in a congested, hard-hit unit. Only doing it because of a cow tag. Had the place to myself more or less because nobody thinks this little area is worth a shit. I didn't find anything good at all until I was almost back to the trail, just barely out of sight of where day hikers trundle in and out. Huge frequently used bedding area in a thicket on top of a spring right where I thought there'd be a crossroads for them. Being a bit of a chonkass that's about as good as it's going to get for me in this unit before I try somewhere else. Not the first time I've found some promise in a spot people just run by. Bro after bro were hauling camps up to the higher tops on the 4x4 trail, claiming sites for the rut and rifle season. That's certainly where they mostly are right now, but I'm never going to get involved in the sxs arms race.
I swear the elk know that when those roads and camps get busy, they need to run.
I personally find the places most humans won’t go and start there. Makes my tag soup more bitter after all the effort but I’m 50% on harvest rates throughout my 10 years hunting.
@@joshsmith3650 Nice. I've tried that in a couple places and found some animals but I see more on my way back to camp than in those places so far. I can't physically get too far for a bunch of reasons so I try to find the holes in the "normal" map that most people see that are within my radius. breaking down a hillside into its parts and figuring out where a nexus might be, if there is one. No kills yet but I've seen a lot up close for only 2 years and one day in.
@@joshsmith3650 one nice thing about where I live is that the roads are jamming all summer and most hunters do not get out of sight of their machines. I shot my first deer last year 200 yards from a dead end road that people were heater hunting all season. Huge buck. He learned to avoid the road and he was safe for 5 or more years.
@@jcarry5214 that’s awesome. I’ve walked past hunters who said they haven’t seen anything all day and found a dozen elk laying 40 yards off the trail about 1/4 mile past them lol.
The three largest bucks I’ve seen have been driving back to camp at night (during elk season of course) lol.
Great breakdown of the new features that Onx didn't even advertise in the new features class I took with them a couple weeks ago. I also just talked to them today on the phone and it's unfortunate that they're making terrain X, aerial imagery, and even route building something you have to pay $100 for while go hunt has all that and more for 50 bucks and all states. I love my Onx but i will maybe spend the extra $50 trying a different system to compare both side by side this season before i upgrade my onx.
Hey Cliff, what tool allows you to see what is viewable from a location on the 3D map? The part where the map goes gray & colored areas are viewable from a point/location. Seems very helpful but I don't know what tool that is.
can you do a speed goat tips video?
Epic content! Thanks for it
Downed timber is the one thing that will make you question everything your doing
Hey Cliff, What tool are you using that shades out the areas that you are unable to view from specific glassing points?
What part of Colorado are you familiar with is that the winnamenuch wilderness area I don’t know if this is spelled right I have lived and hunted south west Colorado
Is there anything different that would apply to Mule Deer, Cliff?
How much would it cost to get some advice on a specific spot? Colorado resident on his fourth year just trying to put some brown down in an OTC unit.
Curious if this actually gets a reply.
No one is going to give up their spot for a little money. Money would be better spent on a guide or scouting
@@rorywhittington3906 Is that what it sounded like I was requesting? I’ve spent over 20 days IN the specific unit I have questions about. I’m looking for advice, not spots, dingus. This guy knows more about elk habits than anyone I know. Consider yourself blessed if you have anyone in your life with that wealth of knowledge.
Seems like he gave you some Colorado advice for free in this video
I don’t have the budget for binos and a spotting scope. Would I be better off with 12x42s as a medium between spotter and 10x42? Or still just do 10s? (Not glassing thousands of yards) also not worried about looking at antlers much
10-42
Get 10x42s. Most people can’t handhold 12x42s and your 10x42 will be better I. Lower light
I just have to say, OnX is very much a double edged sword.
I hear ya but from what perspective? Have you had issues with it or do you mean how the overall access to the data has changed Hunting? It surely has done that. Years ago I knew many “livestock drive” access points… a function of being a cattle ranchers kid. No one knew about those spots… little 400yd wide chunks of BLM that touched the rd. Those were secret back then…. Kinda comical to think about that now. Nowadays I never hunt without it.
@@CliffGray Well I made a reply earlier, but I guess youtube ate it. Kinda like how the mountain just ate my cow call yesterday. Shorter reply is overall access to data. OnX will help you find a spot, but it will also help others to find yours. The sword swings both ways.
I can Google Earth my pastur, and see my wife's horses to the point of telling which each one is. -- should be able to find elk too????
I have a personal favorite honey hole. But if I tell my wife an elk can fit in there….I might die