I always go the old fashioned way of letting the land guide me where to go. My hunting partner and I joke about trying to get ourselves lost the first half of the day and strategically hunt the evening on the way back to base camp
Thanks a bunch for putting together this series Cliff! There's a ton of excellent info in these that is going to be extremely useful this season man! 👍
Another great video Cliff! Had a small world moment when I recognized both camps you’ve shown in the video while escouting onX earlier today. Good to know that they are outfitters and will be sure not to interrupt them or their hunts this fall keep up the good work!
Thanks for the series Cliff! It's so refreshing to see new content that hasn't been repeated a million times. If I'm looking to avoid hunting the same area as an outfitter and have located their camp, what's my next step for figuring out where they'll be? Is it common to stick to a certain radius around camp? Any other tricks?
Although not a western state ND requires landowners to allow hunters retrieving game to go on and retrieve their game. But the hunter must leave his weapon behind.
Another border to scout around are municipal reservoirs closed to the public. Many share borders with USFS, BLM and open private lands. Reservoirs have a river and many creeks flowing into them that can be game funnels @the boundaries.
Thanks for bringing new info and ideas. If you are identifying outfitters are in an area you plan to be near, are they commonly a good resource to reach out to ahead of time if you just need horsemen to extract if you're successful? Or don't even bother asking bc they only deal with their clients needs?
It just depends on the outfitter. I would typically packout elk for DIY hunters if I had availability. I never minded when diy hunters would drop in to talk or say hi. Some outfitters try to ignore diy hunters to the extent they can, some are conflictual with them. There is no doubt there is a competitive dynamic so there can be some tension.
@@CliffGraythat happened to me in 2017, I picked a few spots on the map in the flat tops and we got to where we were going to spike camp, 7 miles hiked in there was outfitters in there and they indirectly told us to beat it. We went over a way they said they killed elk before and we kinda didn’t know what to do so we hunted the area they pointed out. I killed one but the area they were in was pretty quiet no shots heard from their direction.
Hey, Cliff, I'm hunting archery 33,23, and 24 where its vastly public wilderness area, should I still key into the few private borders? I really want to ape deep into the wilderness to get one, but success is more important so how would you spend the 15 days that I have? After hunting GMU 28 there's no amount of downed timber that would scare me from going in deep if thats what you would recommend.
24 doesn’t have much for relevant private land. Other units you might find some spots. If you are interested in doing a really remote backpack hunt, go for it! That country is beautiful.
Unless the laws have changed in Oregon. If I shoot an animal on public land and it goes on a private land. I can legally go get my animal, but you're supposed to also let the land owner know. (Usually, they are cool with this, but, if the land owner refuses, You call the game warden the game warden will go talk to the landowner, he will BS with the land owner while you go Get your animal. kind of behind the landowner's back, unless it's changed the last couple years. This is kind of the policy that I know of in Oregon anyway.
That’s the biggest Beaver pelt I’ve ever seen 👍
Bwhaha
Wrong Iowa you don't even need permission to retrieve animals
Cliff is the best!🙌
Haha! Thanks
I always go the old fashioned way of letting the land guide me where to go. My hunting partner and I joke about trying to get ourselves lost the first half of the day and strategically hunt the evening on the way back to base camp
Ha! Not a bad way to do it. I’ve done that a few times myself 👍
Thanks a bunch for putting together this series Cliff! There's a ton of excellent info in these that is going to be extremely useful this season man! 👍
Glad it was helpful man!
Thank you for sharing this great information
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Looking for camps is a great tip. Thank you for another solid video. Reminded me to download my offline maps
Glad it was helpful! 👍
I do the exact same thing for mule dear and farm land. Great advice.
Thanks 👍
Another great video Cliff! Had a small world moment when I recognized both camps you’ve shown in the video while escouting onX earlier today. Good to know that they are outfitters and will be sure not to interrupt them or their hunts this fall keep up the good work!
Haha! It can be a small world up there but in the end there is a bunch of room!
Thanks for the series Cliff! It's so refreshing to see new content that hasn't been repeated a million times. If I'm looking to avoid hunting the same area as an outfitter and have located their camp, what's my next step for figuring out where they'll be? Is it common to stick to a certain radius around camp? Any other tricks?
Although not a western state ND requires landowners to allow hunters retrieving game to go on and retrieve their game. But the hunter must leave his weapon behind.
10-4 good to know. Thanks
Thank you for this e-scouting series. It is extremely valuable as I prep for a DIY elk hunt this fall.
Glad it was helpful! 👍
Another border to scout around are municipal reservoirs closed to the public. Many share borders with USFS, BLM and open private lands. Reservoirs have a river and many creeks flowing into them that can be game funnels @the boundaries.
Thanks for bringing new info and ideas. If you are identifying outfitters are in an area you plan to be near, are they commonly a good resource to reach out to ahead of time if you just need horsemen to extract if you're successful? Or don't even bother asking bc they only deal with their clients needs?
It just depends on the outfitter. I would typically packout elk for DIY hunters if I had availability. I never minded when diy hunters would drop in to talk or say hi.
Some outfitters try to ignore diy hunters to the extent they can, some are conflictual with them.
There is no doubt there is a competitive dynamic so there can be some tension.
@@CliffGraythat happened to me in 2017, I picked a few spots on the map in the flat tops and we got to where we were going to spike camp, 7 miles hiked in there was outfitters in there and they indirectly told us to beat it. We went over a way they said they killed elk before and we kinda didn’t know what to do so we hunted the area they pointed out. I killed one but the area they were in was pretty quiet no shots heard from their direction.
Hey, Cliff, I'm hunting archery 33,23, and 24 where its vastly public wilderness area, should I still key into the few private borders? I really want to ape deep into the wilderness to get one, but success is more important so how would you spend the 15 days that I have? After hunting GMU 28 there's no amount of downed timber that would scare me from going in deep if thats what you would recommend.
24 doesn’t have much for relevant private land. Other units you might find some spots. If you are interested in doing a really remote backpack hunt, go for it! That country is beautiful.
@@CliffGray I appreciate the response! See you in 20 days, hopefully with an elk and bear tag filled.
Unless the laws have changed in Oregon. If I shoot an animal on public land and it goes on a private land.
I can legally go get my animal, but you're supposed to also let the land owner know. (Usually, they are cool with this, but, if the land owner refuses, You call the game warden the game warden will go talk to the landowner, he will BS with the land owner while you go Get your animal. kind of behind the landowner's back, unless it's changed the last couple years. This is kind of the policy that I know of in Oregon anyway.