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Remember, this is the same company that was talking about pay cuts and when asked if any of those pay cuts will apply to upper management, they were quoted saying "we're not that kind of company"
War Thunder being the promoted as the alternative option to Destiny drama is hilarious considering the WT community has memes specifically for times when classified documents are leaked by players to win forum arguments
@@Ch4pp13some of the best tanks in the game are not premiums and need to grind for. Anyone buying top tier shit typically is a new player and just gets their ass handed to them. Its not pay to win whatsoever.
"You forgot to mention XYZ". No, we did not forget. Certain topics were deliberately excluded from the video if they were not strongly related or connected to Destiny. Just wanted to put this comment here to clarify this because I can already see a few comments asking about this. Thanks for watching!
Content vaulting to me is one of the most egregious anti-consumer offenses they've committed. Not only did they take away content people paid for, but they also crippled the onboarding to the game by removing swaths of initial story content that would enable new players entrance into the narrative. It's even more egregious now that we now know Bungie had so many resources away from their sole money-making ip that could've probably invested into the game's systems and MAYBE prevent that content removal from becoming a necessity.
Yep, that's what made me quit Destiny. I paid for content which is no longer in the game. In Beyond Light, I couldn't finish a single season (get the badge and such) because I don't have much time to play, and the season was removed before I was done with it. And most of those seasons boiled down to "do a single mission once a week to get a little bit of story". Season of the Lost (iirc) was the worst, since the weekly mission was too difficult for me. I'm a casual, and I'd like to play a game mode where I don't get one shot by most yellow-bar enemies. And I couldn't bring any of my friends to try out the game (and help me with those missions) because it was too difficult for them to get into it. Every time we loaded into the game we just hanged out in the orbit while I answered their questions about the story and the lore - something the game couldn't do for them. Playing Destiny 2 is like reading a book missing most of its pages.
@@maiselph7456 yeah. Looking back at prior Bungie games like Halo where you could replay any campaign without issue, if you're a solo player that only jumped in for the story, how could you do that with the first 2 years of story just chucked away? And even the seasonal story - good or bad - that connected each yearly DLC was also given the FOMO treatment. The only way to catch up with the story is with the truncated timeline in the director or follow lore youtubers as they covered the story weekly. That's a really messed up way to keep up with the narrative. Or even to try to get new people in. I legit couldn't in good conscience endorse the game to a new player knowing what they'd have to deal with. I kept up to finish the 10 Year Journey, but when I logged in I couldn't help but feel disgust at the state of the game. Incomplete story, PVP and Gambit abandoned, seasonal story tied to cookie-cutter seasonal activities meant to be there just to keep you engaged with the game weekly. No efforts being done to restore content but new Eververse stuff was produced on schedule to get your money! Shameful and disgusting. That's all I can say at this point.
They should look at other games, like ff14 a very heavy story driven game yet the only things they took away were stuff that the community had a genuine distaste for. The even took what was hated like the diadem, reworked it into something a entirely new and for some unique content that is essentially finished but can still be done for new players to get rare rewards
I loved Destiny 1, by the time 2 came out I was unable to get the game and wouldn't have had the time to play it even if I could Finally go the time to try it out earlier this year, the gunplay was just as good as I remembered, I was starting to really have fun in the early parts of the game (read: tutorial) But then I was dumped into the FTP world, and quickly came to the realisation that the game was basically stripped bare for a new player, and it was literally impossible for me to get the full Destiny 2 experience. My enthusiasm died immediately, and I just felt bad for even feeling good about the game in the first place, like I was an idiot for it. I wasn't welcome here, and I very much felt it Kinda sucked as a long time Bungie fan
I mean. It’s very similar and inspired but it is NOT just a filter applied. That’s just ignorant. Especially when the “original” is made of bungie assets.
Imagine waking up and seeing, oh sorry we thought your fan art was authentic and original. I would screenshot that and frame it. Any good sport artist would laugh and be thankful for the compliment,
Theres a little more to it than that. You don't know the intent, the company could be acting maliciously and it may not have been a mistake. As an artist having something like this happen can open a can of worms and it's nothing short from concerning. Someone uses your work and you have to now invest time (and sometimes money) trying to figure out what action to take and it may even lead to getting legal advice and a lawsuit, something which no artist wants to be doing or may not even be able to afford. The statement "well should just take it as a compliment" is one that comes from a place of ignorance and total lack of understanding of these types of situations. No one in their right mind wants to be spending time having to sort this shit out when they could be using that time to invest in something creative or beneficial.
As someone who was affected by the fake DMCA scandal talked about at 41:55, I wanted to add some more context here. Bungie did issue a number of legit DMCA takedowns of music content on UA-cam. Including against the perpetrator of the fake takedowns, one "Lord Nazo", who had uploaded extended loops of the official soundtrack releases. As in, he'd paid for the official soundtracks, and then reposted them to listen to for free. This is cut and dry piracy and Bungie are in their rights to remove that. Nazo then started isssuing the fake DMCA takedowns as some kind of payback over losing his channel. The whole time he was spreading conspiracy theories about the original, legitimate takedowns being by a "malicious third party" to cover his tracks. He gaslit the shit out of everyone the whole time. He sat in a group chat with myself and other Music channels who archive tracks that either didn't make it onto the OST's or were from Vaulted activities and lied to all of us about this stuff, while issuing fake strikes against us and feigning ignorance. I have zero sympathy for him. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Bungie do deserve to get some flak though, because they were absolutely radio silent the entire time this was happening, and refused to help channels who were being hit by fake takedowns until big name channels were affected. Though shoutout to Cozmo and the unfortunately laid-off Liana Ruppert who were very helpful both to myself and others and actually passed our concerns up the chain as this was happening.
For me the biggest one that everyone seemingly forgets is Luke Smith saying they were completely removing FOMO years ago and never doing it because gatekeepers and their “but I want to feel special and flex in front of new and solo players!”
i used to walk into a store to find a game, now i walk into a game and find a store.. some of the realist sentence ive heard. every game is this now. gaming is just going downhill.
The worst thing about the DCV from a narrative perspective, is that they still to this day, build upon narrative pillars from content they have removed. The Red War, Forsaken, and all the seasons where Crow is featured/developed (3/4 of Beyond Light's seasons, and later seasons too) were used for as almost primary plot points for The Final Shape, yet NO one can play them anymore. Season of the Haunted introduced us (on screen) to Zavala's Wife and Son and uses that as a motivator for some of his actions in The Final Shape. The Hive have been a huge enemy since Y1 of Destiny 1, with the Cabal taking the limelight until Shadowkeep in Destiny 2. and yet one of the Three sisters of the Osmium court have only featured in removed seasonal content. Whereas the influence of both Oryx and Savathûn have been felt outside of their own expansions in both seasons AND other expansions. Lightfall's main villain made his debut in D2 Vanilla's raid; removed. He doesn't show up again, until Forsaken's Season of Opulence; removed and then disappears until a single mission you have to play over and over to get the full story, 2 years later, which until AFTER Lightfall had come out was removed. He's the main villain of Season of the Haunted, which as mentioned before is used for Zavala in The Final Shape, is also used as the sendoff and revelation of him being the primary villain of Lightfall (because they wanted to keep the Witness a mystery to reveal what it is in a cutscene during week 4 of a season, that has since been removed...) Oh, and Season of the Haunted, relied on knowing who Ghaul is, (D2 Vanilla; removed) knowing who Caitl is (D2 2x Seasons; 1 removed at the time Haunted was accessible) And whilst I did not play the first episode, I was one of the ones that left at the finale, knowing that it takes place on Nessus and involves a character that has not been mentioned or used or even thought of since 2017 in D2 vanilla, again removed, just shows that they're never going to change. They've been doing this for years, building upon content that will go away and only filling people in with a short 3-10 min video on "what happened" and then they scratch their heads at why they're not able to keep new players or re gain those that took breaks. It is at the point where it feels that if someone did not log in every week since 2018 then there is something that that they're missing from their "knowledge" and it's not like Destiny's story is that deep or complex, it's just broken up by business and bad technical decisions and that's a damn shame. People want to experience the narrative for themselves, not be told a story like it's bed time. The way the narrative is currently set up, it requires players to do homework, to watch videos of other people playing the game, and/or explaining the lore. It's probably the biggest reasons Halo 5's story was so bad (it was also just really bad) was that it decided to introduce characters, and events and plots from the books and comics, with no clear jumping in point from the previous game. But for Destiny's sake, these are things that were IN the game, people could have played them and experienced them, but no longer can. Then there is the fact that a lot of Destiny's story is built upon the first game which is locked as a console exclusive, and will be shut down sooner than you think, leaving the only accessible narrative of Destiny being the expansions from Shadowkeep to TFS (with all the huge holes in them from missing seasonal content) Anyway, a shorter compacted list of elements of the game that have been removed that still are relevant. *Knowing who Cayde-6 is and what happened to him* Destiny 1 _limited to console_ Destiny 2 Vanilla; removed D2 Forsaken; removed *Knowing who Crow is and his history/relationships with everyone in the D2 universe* Destiny 1 _limited to console_ D2 Forsaken; removed Multiple D2 seasons from Beyond Light up until weeks before The Final shape; all removed *Knowing about Zavala's past* Season of The Haunted _on screen_ ; removed *Knowing about Caitl* Season of Chosen, Risen, Haunted; removed *Knowing about Calus* D2 Vanilla raid; removed, Exotic mission (returned but was removed until after his plot ended), Season of Haunted; removed *Knowing about the Witness* Cutscene in Season of the Deep; removed (IDK if it has returned) Season of the Wish; removed Knowing about the Bray sisters Destiny 1 Vanilla _limited to consoles_ D2 Warmind; removed Season of the Worthy Going from Beyond Light to The Witch Queen All of 4 of Beyond Light's seasons; removed, (could argue Savathûn’s song strike; removed)
Coming back from the low of 2021 and I’m unimpressed that I had to spend over $100 to get back in and all the content I paid for is gone, dungeons aren’t included anymore and ornaments and MTX are everywhere. What happened to my favourite game?
I still have a handful of old previously sunset weapons, and yeh I deleted a lot of guns that took a lot of grinding to get, but honestly most of those old guns have either been replaced with new versions or just flat out left in the dust by better guns. So really not that big of a deal. Still sucks it happened, but honestly I think it they would have "sunset" themselves over time anyway
I've been thinking this same thing lately. Rerelease the 1st game and add the missing content to that or something. Like on Nintendo Switch since that doesn't have a Desriny game anyways.
On the timeline to build factor, you should look into what happened at V.C. Summer nuclear station for units 2&3 that were in development around 2011. The TL;DR: Corrupt contractors CEOs stole money and bankrupt the finishing of the additional 2 units for V.C. Summer. This left a sour taste in the mouths of the public (many who lost EVERYTHING literally overnight). This only hurts investor relationships , relationships that want to help/fund the building of more nuclear power sites in the USA. -Former A.O.V. diagnostic technician and I/C tech. I have worked with many plant Operators/NEO's and engineers from all over the country.
My things about the EK ban situation: 1. Leaks have still happened and are no less frequent. 2. If they had evidence that stretched over YEARS and could access said information easily within less than a week's worth of effort, why was he only getting banned then and no time prior?
My experience with a hacker sucked. I was going into trials, and one of the guys on my team had hacks that made him able to attack anybody. So he griefed my team and not only ruined my flawless, but my buddy’s too and it was both of our first flawless
My favorite thing about the content vault is that I didn’t start playing until Beyond Light, so in the final shape when Cayde is being all mushy it means nothing bc me and my guardian have never met him
These videos take a long time to make, so it wouldn’t be surprising if he left more recent events out prior to finishing the final product. So it may slightly be outdated or just newer events show up before the final product.
@@TheChinchillaArmydon’t think so bc he mentioned the layoffs that JUST happened. He probably didn’t mention it bc it’s not explicitly connected to destiny more a bungie higher ups problem.
Remember, this is the same company that was talking about pay cuts and when asked if any of those pay cuts will apply to upper management, they were quoted saying "we're not that kind of company"
love how ignorant the average person is to these huge companies “accidents” or whatever they want to call it. they did it on purpose thinking they could get away with it. knowing if they did get caught, people would believe whatever they had to say.
Ooohhh boy.. Contentfault and Sunsetting totally fucked me up and forced me to quit the Game.. and i came back after i heard they removed Sunsetting and Vaulting... and i still miss good old Mars, Titan, Leviathan and other Stuff. And if i hear they "REMOVED" that old Content or Planets, thats a lie.. we still have PvP Maps on that removed maps as one example lol. Would be nice if they bring back those Planets, and Adding that previous Seasons (for the story and lore) in an special Tab, where you can Repeat that quests if you missed them ( like i did. about 2 Years break because of this dumb vaulting and sunsetting)
Same, I TOTALLY miss going to Titan to do literally nothing at all and then boot back to Orbit and just rinse and repeat till get tired and launch Gambit or Crucible Content Vault has damaging it can be for the player experience keeps the game alive from stopping it to be a glitchy and laggy mess
@@KROKIACKI fully disagree. I think the old content and plamets are just as if not more important than Strand and Prismatic. D2 no longer has a story that makes sense, It went from a potential Solo or multiplayer story experience with good gunplay All D2 now is a hollow shell of endless exotic quests and non stop vanguard missions for anything to do with story that isn't a DLC.
@@KROKIACKAlso using gun perks as an argument doesn't matter, not everyone cares about " God rolls " a lot of PvE players just use what they think is fun, or if they're doing a real challenge have loadouts for it
I hav a few moments that arnt really scandels, but more of interesting moments in the destiny community The laser tag week, during curse of osiris, a new exotic broke the game and dished out ridiculous damage in pvp, basically evaporated anyone almost instantly if u were hit with it. To make matters worse a week before the patch to fix this well known issue released, bungie decided to give the exotic to xur so everyone could use it at its busted best. Players who played during that time got a emblem The save the blueberries time where new players were immediately put into a dares run with no way to kill the champions so people had to put on low light armor to que with new players in order to save them from a unbeatable situation, players got a emblem for this too. The time there was a glitch with the weapons crafting where players could put full auto on things like rockets, fusion rifles and other guns, made alot of pve things easy, and made crucible complete hell
The funniest part about Bungie stealing art is that any company that uses AI for their creativity based stuff is going that and there is nowhere near enough backlash for that.
I just wish the content we got was more meaningful and not just another variation of something we’ve had. Onslaught needs more content, settings, and enemy variety. Crucible needs the old maps brought back. Old campaigns should be replayable.
This was a great video and hits on all the good topics. I love the game but the studio and the game both have issues. But, I don’t think the eververse store should be such an issue. I understand why people don’t like it but its all cosmetic, you don’t have to interact with it.
42:45 low-key a hero showing just how ridiculous automated copyright enforcement systems are and the power and carelessness of giant corporations. Of course the only response was for a slightly less than giant corporation to use the pay-to-win legal system to crush them rather than for anything about those ridiculously one-sided and easily exploited systems to change.
Anyone remember how sparrows were introduced. That was controversial. It was a Activision executive who saw his son playing racing games and said it should be in Destiny.
I haven't played D2 as a dedicated player since Beyond Light. I kept coming back for a couple of weeks and then dropping the game. There's absolutely nothing that I'd like more than a clean slate (so, D3 basically) to pull me back into the franchise. But after hearing the latest news, I think reality finally sunk and I realize that Destiny is a chapter that will forever stay closed in my life. RIP Destiny, you were one hell of an experience
You can tell exactly what kind of company runs the game when half if not more of the entries in a drama video are Bungie Blunders. Never going back to supporting bungie again, no matter how good Destiny gets.
Oof. The timing! Now we're in another stolen art aituation, and the artist of the veiled statue art just announced they still haven't received the promised compensation.
Yoo, you guys don’t understand how weak I’ve been watching this video, Bungie has made so many people go demon mode it’s not even funny, it’s hilarious, I really can’t explain in words how hysterical this is, shout out shadow destiny thanks for making this video😂
I have no sympathy for Kevin Yanes. The way that reads is like a big fat “shut up already” at a proven toxic community. Playing with fire burns, who knew?
Bungie is known for being way too political over the years, they've gotten insane backlash, and just silenced anyone who told them to stay away from it.
0.0% to do with Battle eye and them suing people, 100% to do with Destiny Poo being no longer populair to draw in those crowds. Stuff like Fortnite took away that crowd.
“If you ever get sick of the destiny drama and decide that you want to try something new, check out warthunder” Meanwhile: war thunder drama being far worse and destructive than destiny drama😭😭
Destiny 2 could have been the Guild wars 2 of "here is years of content, lvl up the way you want" instead of deleting everything so you are forced to buy the newest expansion
Sunsetting and vaulting content is exactly the tie breaker that made me just stick to warframe, I’m not ok with a game removing content I paid for and I don’t understand how for any reason anyone else is ok with that. In warframe when I come back Everything is still there and I’m still just as powerful
It's funny to see bungie claiming they can afford to make more content for Destiny 2 but wont stop development of Marathon. They just need to admit they no longer want to develop the Destiny IP and need another studio to take over.
As someone who can't afford a pc at the moment, i would like to at least be able to fo seasonal stuff on my phone to get the weapons and armor ornaments until i get a pc and then do raids, pvp and dungeons
The harrassment of the player base is where all the hate stems from. Let this be a lesson to others of how not to treat the people PAYING YOUR EVERYTHING.
The ban of the d2 gunsmith creator was absolutely crazy. Bungie even double downed on the ban and slandered the guy publicly only for it to be quietly reversed. They didn’t even issue an apology to the guy. I don’t blame him for quitting entirely.
Not sure if u mentioned it yet (not done with vid) but the say no to rage situation is the most detrimental one for me Getting banned just cuz a dev doesn’t like you gave me ban panic for months and I felt betrayed and confused because how does something like that even happen Unfortunately many people deleted videos about the situation and it almost seems lost to time Upper echelon made multiple videos about it especially because the people who went after SNTR also went after him and even striked his videos Which now that I think about it could be why so many were deleted but it’ll always remain one of the most unspoken scandals in all of bungie history…besides that…dog Ngl idk which is more fd up
It is probably the most fucked up thing that happened. Most large content creators would never speak up about it bc they were afraid of getting banned/black listed by Bungie. As the narrative shifted that he was mostly innocent, people started saying "I was just listening to my friend's accusations because I trust them". Completely spineless.
@@MrPatpuc even more spineless that a video talking about every single other controversy FAILED to even hint at this situation Stg it feels like I’m the only one who remembers or even cares about it The worst part to me is that he got on to get his son black talon and got hit with the ban message Which makes it even more fucked Unless I’m getting this confused with someone else this was about 4-5? Years ago now or so and is apparently censored af even to this day so I’m gonna forget some details
playing yhe og planets was my favorite part when all that got deleted for different content, i felt part of my gamer soul die, all that fighting for nothing
People who get butthurt off terms such as "Latinx" are clearly just bored ready to become emotional any chance they get. As a Latino, the terminology has never so much mattered as much as the actual culture, habits, and daily life and practices which take place.
I spent 2 years while working at Google requesting that they stop using the phrase "LatinX", both internally and externally, but they never listened. I'll never understand why people who aren't part of a culture think it's okay to change that culture under the guise of 'inclusivity'. 14:30 - that's not true. We know of one raid and at least one dungeon but most likely 2 that are in development currently. We have 2 upcoming episodes (seasons) they teased that have very cool looking aesthetics tied to them. 22:35 - "allowed people play the ENTIRETY of the final shape expansion multiple days before it was intended to go live. They did take the servers offline quite rapidly and nobody really got too far into the campaign..". A bit of a contradiction there.
GETTING BANNED FOR HAVING A SINGLE PLAYER OFFLINE NOT RUNNING GAME CHEAT IS SNOOPING AND THAT IS INVASION OF PRIVACY!!!!! THEY SHOLD MONITER THERE GAME AND FILES ONLY!!!!!
it’s actually hilarious how this company seems to never learn from their mistakes, took them about seven years to make destiny 2 okay at best; couldn’t have been less surprised to see this company shit itself
Can confirm that Latinx or any other variation of Latino or Latina is disrespectful. Because we don’t need others to tell us what to be offended by and trying to change our culture.
His big 2 hr evidence piece I think made me the most livid I had ever been at the Destiny Community. That was truly one of the most insane things to happen.
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@@TheSmurf1973 incorrect on literally everything you said. Bye
@@ShadowDestiny bozo deleted the comment lol
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Remember, this is the same company that was talking about pay cuts and when asked if any of those pay cuts will apply to upper management, they were quoted saying "we're not that kind of company"
I luv how Baken quadrupled down and was too stupid to realize he admitted to PvP cheating "I only used PvE cheats...for the first time I cheated"
War Thunder being the promoted as the alternative option to Destiny drama is hilarious considering the WT community has memes specifically for times when classified documents are leaked by players to win forum arguments
It's also the ultimate pay 2 win game.
@@nikos95 snail lovers will say it's not P2W if you just buy premium time and farm XP with a high-tier premium.
@@Ch4pp13some of the best tanks in the game are not premiums and need to grind for. Anyone buying top tier shit typically is a new player and just gets their ass handed to them. Its not pay to win whatsoever.
@@nikos95its not though.
@@Peanutgaming27 it is tho, the copium has you delusional
"You forgot to mention XYZ".
No, we did not forget. Certain topics were deliberately excluded from the video if they were not strongly related or connected to Destiny. Just wanted to put this comment here to clarify this because I can already see a few comments asking about this. Thanks for watching!
i would pin this sir Shadow
Why not include Saynotorage ban?
Yeah what about the X Y Z affair? That could have caused some major conflict in the early days of the good old USA!
@@Ben-M112absolutely, needs more recognition in the Destiny community
@@MrPatpuc I came here looking for this as the circumstances surrounding his actual banning are strange to say the least.
“This is our final communication on the matter” is the most professional “Cry more” I’ve ever seen 😂
32:45
"I used to walk into a store and find a game.
Now, I walk into a game and find a store."
100 points!
This is why I only play single player game nowadays
Content vaulting to me is one of the most egregious anti-consumer offenses they've committed. Not only did they take away content people paid for, but they also crippled the onboarding to the game by removing swaths of initial story content that would enable new players entrance into the narrative.
It's even more egregious now that we now know Bungie had so many resources away from their sole money-making ip that could've probably invested into the game's systems and MAYBE prevent that content removal from becoming a necessity.
Removing content I bought and paid for made me instantly quit the game. F them.
Yep, that's what made me quit Destiny. I paid for content which is no longer in the game. In Beyond Light, I couldn't finish a single season (get the badge and such) because I don't have much time to play, and the season was removed before I was done with it. And most of those seasons boiled down to "do a single mission once a week to get a little bit of story". Season of the Lost (iirc) was the worst, since the weekly mission was too difficult for me. I'm a casual, and I'd like to play a game mode where I don't get one shot by most yellow-bar enemies.
And I couldn't bring any of my friends to try out the game (and help me with those missions) because it was too difficult for them to get into it. Every time we loaded into the game we just hanged out in the orbit while I answered their questions about the story and the lore - something the game couldn't do for them.
Playing Destiny 2 is like reading a book missing most of its pages.
@@maiselph7456 yeah. Looking back at prior Bungie games like Halo where you could replay any campaign without issue, if you're a solo player that only jumped in for the story, how could you do that with the first 2 years of story just chucked away? And even the seasonal story - good or bad - that connected each yearly DLC was also given the FOMO treatment. The only way to catch up with the story is with the truncated timeline in the director or follow lore youtubers as they covered the story weekly. That's a really messed up way to keep up with the narrative. Or even to try to get new people in. I legit couldn't in good conscience endorse the game to a new player knowing what they'd have to deal with.
I kept up to finish the 10 Year Journey, but when I logged in I couldn't help but feel disgust at the state of the game. Incomplete story, PVP and Gambit abandoned, seasonal story tied to cookie-cutter seasonal activities meant to be there just to keep you engaged with the game weekly. No efforts being done to restore content but new Eververse stuff was produced on schedule to get your money! Shameful and disgusting. That's all I can say at this point.
They should look at other games, like ff14 a very heavy story driven game yet the only things they took away were stuff that the community had a genuine distaste for. The even took what was hated like the diadem, reworked it into something a entirely new and for some unique content that is essentially finished but can still be done for new players to get rare rewards
I loved Destiny 1, by the time 2 came out I was unable to get the game and wouldn't have had the time to play it even if I could
Finally go the time to try it out earlier this year, the gunplay was just as good as I remembered, I was starting to really have fun in the early parts of the game (read: tutorial)
But then I was dumped into the FTP world, and quickly came to the realisation that the game was basically stripped bare for a new player, and it was literally impossible for me to get the full Destiny 2 experience. My enthusiasm died immediately, and I just felt bad for even feeling good about the game in the first place, like I was an idiot for it. I wasn't welcome here, and I very much felt it
Kinda sucked as a long time Bungie fan
Stolen art has to be the biggest compliment. So good that they thought it was official
I disagree
@@Just_be_yourself109I agree
I mean. It’s very similar and inspired but it is NOT just a filter applied. That’s just ignorant. Especially when the “original” is made of bungie assets.
Imagine waking up and seeing, oh sorry we thought your fan art was authentic and original.
I would screenshot that and frame it. Any good sport artist would laugh and be thankful for the compliment,
Theres a little more to it than that. You don't know the intent, the company could be acting maliciously and it may not have been a mistake. As an artist having something like this happen can open a can of worms and it's nothing short from concerning. Someone uses your work and you have to now invest time (and sometimes money) trying to figure out what action to take and it may even lead to getting legal advice and a lawsuit, something which no artist wants to be doing or may not even be able to afford. The statement "well should just take it as a compliment" is one that comes from a place of ignorance and total lack of understanding of these types of situations. No one in their right mind wants to be spending time having to sort this shit out when they could be using that time to invest in something creative or beneficial.
Who needs to pay taxes when you can watch shadow destiny
I think you still need to pay taxes
@@Bwolfson833says who
@@Bitmuffin326 says the uhm uhhh uhmmmm uhhhh government
Everybody
...the IRS wants to know your location.
As someone who was affected by the fake DMCA scandal talked about at 41:55, I wanted to add some more context here.
Bungie did issue a number of legit DMCA takedowns of music content on UA-cam. Including against the perpetrator of the fake takedowns, one "Lord Nazo", who had uploaded extended loops of the official soundtrack releases. As in, he'd paid for the official soundtracks, and then reposted them to listen to for free. This is cut and dry piracy and Bungie are in their rights to remove that.
Nazo then started isssuing the fake DMCA takedowns as some kind of payback over losing his channel. The whole time he was spreading conspiracy theories about the original, legitimate takedowns being by a "malicious third party" to cover his tracks. He gaslit the shit out of everyone the whole time. He sat in a group chat with myself and other Music channels who archive tracks that either didn't make it onto the OST's or were from Vaulted activities and lied to all of us about this stuff, while issuing fake strikes against us and feigning ignorance.
I have zero sympathy for him. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Bungie do deserve to get some flak though, because they were absolutely radio silent the entire time this was happening, and refused to help channels who were being hit by fake takedowns until big name channels were affected. Though shoutout to Cozmo and the unfortunately laid-off Liana Ruppert who were very helpful both to myself and others and actually passed our concerns up the chain as this was happening.
For me the biggest one that everyone seemingly forgets is Luke Smith saying they were completely removing FOMO years ago and never doing it because gatekeepers and their “but I want to feel special and flex in front of new and solo players!”
Dude 11:14 LT to revive is diabolical
I used to use this for a while, it allows you to still aim and shoot whilst reviving
You can aim, shoot and revive same time
@@ITZBROKENhotDOG12you can do that anyways just aim and shoot and hold x down at the same time ( if on Xbox )
i used to walk into a store to find a game, now i walk into a game and find a store.. some of the realist sentence ive heard. every game is this now. gaming is just going downhill.
Crazy how many of the scandals were during Lightfall.
The worst thing about the DCV from a narrative perspective, is that they still to this day, build upon narrative pillars from content they have removed.
The Red War, Forsaken, and all the seasons where Crow is featured/developed (3/4 of Beyond Light's seasons, and later seasons too) were used for as almost primary plot points for The Final Shape, yet NO one can play them anymore.
Season of the Haunted introduced us (on screen) to Zavala's Wife and Son and uses that as a motivator for some of his actions in The Final Shape.
The Hive have been a huge enemy since Y1 of Destiny 1, with the Cabal taking the limelight until Shadowkeep in Destiny 2. and yet one of the Three sisters of the Osmium court have only featured in removed seasonal content. Whereas the influence of both Oryx and Savathûn have been felt outside of their own expansions in both seasons AND other expansions.
Lightfall's main villain made his debut in D2 Vanilla's raid; removed. He doesn't show up again, until Forsaken's Season of Opulence; removed and then disappears until a single mission you have to play over and over to get the full story, 2 years later, which until AFTER Lightfall had come out was removed.
He's the main villain of Season of the Haunted, which as mentioned before is used for Zavala in The Final Shape, is also used as the sendoff and revelation of him being the primary villain of Lightfall (because they wanted to keep the Witness a mystery to reveal what it is in a cutscene during week 4 of a season, that has since been removed...)
Oh, and Season of the Haunted, relied on knowing who Ghaul is, (D2 Vanilla; removed) knowing who Caitl is (D2 2x Seasons; 1 removed at the time Haunted was accessible)
And whilst I did not play the first episode, I was one of the ones that left at the finale, knowing that it takes place on Nessus and involves a character that has not been mentioned or used or even thought of since 2017 in D2 vanilla, again removed, just shows that they're never going to change.
They've been doing this for years, building upon content that will go away and only filling people in with a short 3-10 min video on "what happened" and then they scratch their heads at why they're not able to keep new players or re gain those that took breaks. It is at the point where it feels that if someone did not log in every week since 2018 then there is something that that they're missing from their "knowledge" and it's not like Destiny's story is that deep or complex, it's just broken up by business and bad technical decisions and that's a damn shame.
People want to experience the narrative for themselves, not be told a story like it's bed time.
The way the narrative is currently set up, it requires players to do homework, to watch videos of other people playing the game, and/or explaining the lore.
It's probably the biggest reasons Halo 5's story was so bad (it was also just really bad) was that it decided to introduce characters, and events and plots from the books and comics, with no clear jumping in point from the previous game. But for Destiny's sake, these are things that were IN the game, people could have played them and experienced them, but no longer can.
Then there is the fact that a lot of Destiny's story is built upon the first game which is locked as a console exclusive, and will be shut down sooner than you think, leaving the only accessible narrative of Destiny being the expansions from Shadowkeep to TFS (with all the huge holes in them from missing seasonal content)
Anyway, a shorter compacted list of elements of the game that have been removed that still are relevant.
*Knowing who Cayde-6 is and what happened to him*
Destiny 1 _limited to console_ Destiny 2 Vanilla; removed D2 Forsaken; removed
*Knowing who Crow is and his history/relationships with everyone in the D2 universe*
Destiny 1 _limited to console_ D2 Forsaken; removed Multiple D2 seasons from Beyond Light up until weeks before The Final shape; all removed
*Knowing about Zavala's past*
Season of The Haunted _on screen_ ; removed *Knowing about Caitl* Season of Chosen, Risen, Haunted; removed
*Knowing about Calus*
D2 Vanilla raid; removed, Exotic mission (returned but was removed until after his plot ended), Season of Haunted; removed
*Knowing about the Witness*
Cutscene in Season of the Deep; removed (IDK if it has returned) Season of the Wish; removed
Knowing about the Bray sisters
Destiny 1 Vanilla _limited to consoles_ D2 Warmind; removed Season of the Worthy
Going from Beyond Light to The Witch Queen
All of 4 of Beyond Light's seasons; removed, (could argue Savathûn’s song strike; removed)
Im glad someone remembered lizard squad
Sony's best Bud's
Coming back from the low of 2021 and I’m unimpressed that I had to spend over $100 to get back in and all the content I paid for is gone, dungeons aren’t included anymore and ornaments and MTX are everywhere. What happened to my favourite game?
Good video. Lived through all of it and it was refreshing to see that the ugly wasn’t just forgotten but is relevant. Good job.
30:39 the MOST awkward silence.😭
i dont get why bungie wont just let new players play the story from beginning to end... its ridiculous
Server space and the previous gen consoles
@bickle8931 warframe lets players do it with 4 people, and allows older players replay said missions with newer players
@@RexGelida nobody cares about grindfest warframe
@@바보Queen no wonder warframe is thriving while Destiny is going to the shitter
@@xironheadx-4590 i dont want to play a 3rd person shooter, so why would someone recommend a completely different game?
I still have a handful of old previously sunset weapons, and yeh I deleted a lot of guns that took a lot of grinding to get, but honestly most of those old guns have either been replaced with new versions or just flat out left in the dust by better guns. So really not that big of a deal. Still sucks it happened, but honestly I think it they would have "sunset" themselves over time anyway
perfect video to have in the background while i write my essays for school :ddd
They need to make a destiny 2 prequel where people can play the old campaign and expansions.
I've been thinking this same thing lately.
Rerelease the 1st game and add the missing content to that or something. Like on Nintendo Switch since that doesn't have a Desriny game anyways.
On the timeline to build factor, you should look into what happened at V.C. Summer nuclear station for units 2&3 that were in development around 2011.
The TL;DR: Corrupt contractors CEOs stole money and bankrupt the finishing of the additional 2 units for V.C. Summer. This left a sour taste in the mouths of the public (many who lost EVERYTHING literally overnight). This only hurts investor relationships , relationships that want to help/fund the building of more nuclear power sites in the USA.
-Former A.O.V. diagnostic technician and I/C tech. I have worked with many plant Operators/NEO's and engineers from all over the country.
i sure wonder what scandals or drama has happened recently! bungie is probably a really kind company :)
and the ceo is so great with money spending and budgeting! 😀
@SwagathûnTheDripQueen he treats his employees well too!!!
the unsunset after they talked me into dealting all of my gear i spent years to get is what reallllly got me
My things about the EK ban situation:
1. Leaks have still happened and are no less frequent.
2. If they had evidence that stretched over YEARS and could access said information easily within less than a week's worth of effort, why was he only getting banned then and no time prior?
For the Into the Light stream, they coulda just turned off Steam notifications no?
My experience with a hacker sucked. I was going into trials, and one of the guys on my team had hacks that made him able to attack anybody. So he griefed my team and not only ruined my flawless, but my buddy’s too and it was both of our first flawless
My favorite thing about the content vault is that I didn’t start playing until Beyond Light, so in the final shape when Cayde is being all mushy it means nothing bc me and my guardian have never met him
blud forgot the CEO buying a lotta cars to flex
he could've given em to his employees
These videos take a long time to make, so it wouldn’t be surprising if he left more recent events out prior to finishing the final product. So it may slightly be outdated or just newer events show up before the final product.
I think they’d rather have jobs, or a boss who was willing to take responsibility and a pay cut.
"blud" you are really fucking cringe
@@TheChinchillaArmydon’t think so bc he mentioned the layoffs that JUST happened. He probably didn’t mention it bc it’s not explicitly connected to destiny more a bungie higher ups problem.
Remember, this is the same company that was talking about pay cuts and when asked if any of those pay cuts will apply to upper management, they were quoted saying "we're not that kind of company"
love how ignorant the average person is to these huge companies “accidents” or whatever they want to call it. they did it on purpose thinking they could get away with it. knowing if they did get caught, people would believe whatever they had to say.
That into the light steam issue was wild... Felt bad for the devs tbh
Ooohhh boy.. Contentfault and Sunsetting totally fucked me up and forced me to quit the Game.. and i came back after i heard they removed Sunsetting and Vaulting... and i still miss good old Mars, Titan, Leviathan and other Stuff. And if i hear they "REMOVED" that old Content or Planets, thats a lie.. we still have PvP Maps on that removed maps as one example lol. Would be nice if they bring back those Planets, and Adding that previous Seasons (for the story and lore) in an special Tab, where you can Repeat that quests if you missed them ( like i did. about 2 Years break because of this dumb vaulting and sunsetting)
Same, I TOTALLY miss going to Titan to do literally nothing at all and then boot back to Orbit and just rinse and repeat till get tired and launch Gambit or Crucible
Content Vault has damaging it can be for the player experience keeps the game alive from stopping it to be a glitchy and laggy mess
@@KROKIACK 1st i loved the activities on Mars and 2nd im not a Meta slave and are not running the same guns what everyone else is doing.. its simple
@@KROKIACK you clearly need a Doc to get some Meds for your ADHD lol
@@KROKIACKI fully disagree. I think the old content and plamets are just as if not more important than Strand and Prismatic.
D2 no longer has a story that makes sense, It went from a potential Solo or multiplayer story experience with good gunplay
All D2 now is a hollow shell of endless exotic quests and non stop vanguard missions for anything to do with story that isn't a DLC.
@@KROKIACKAlso using gun perks as an argument doesn't matter, not everyone cares about " God rolls " a lot of PvE players just use what they think is fun, or if they're doing a real challenge have loadouts for it
33:50 this gameplay clip is hilarious lol titan really thought he was superman XD
I hav a few moments that arnt really scandels, but more of interesting moments in the destiny community
The laser tag week, during curse of osiris, a new exotic broke the game and dished out ridiculous damage in pvp, basically evaporated anyone almost instantly if u were hit with it. To make matters worse a week before the patch to fix this well known issue released, bungie decided to give the exotic to xur so everyone could use it at its busted best. Players who played during that time got a emblem
The save the blueberries time where new players were immediately put into a dares run with no way to kill the champions so people had to put on low light armor to que with new players in order to save them from a unbeatable situation, players got a emblem for this too.
The time there was a glitch with the weapons crafting where players could put full auto on things like rockets, fusion rifles and other guns, made alot of pve things easy, and made crucible complete hell
"Two Tokens and a Blue" is hardly even remembered it seems with how much good will people still want to rain on Bungo
The funniest part about Bungie stealing art is that any company that uses AI for their creativity based stuff is going that and there is nowhere near enough backlash for that.
Legally speaking, it's only okay if it's not a person stealing. I agree though, they really need to get on that before creativity itself dies.
After having watched a few videos on this channel I can only conclude it's a straight up miracle this game still exists at all
I just wish the content we got was more meaningful and not just another variation of something we’ve had. Onslaught needs more content, settings, and enemy variety. Crucible needs the old maps brought back. Old campaigns should be replayable.
This was a great video and hits on all the good topics. I love the game but the studio and the game both have issues. But, I don’t think the eververse store should be such an issue. I understand why people don’t like it but its all cosmetic, you don’t have to interact with it.
This video just reminded me why I left and why I should never come back.
The tornados in pantheon still traumatizes me
destiny 2 should do what cod did choose what we want downloaded so some players could play all part of the story
22:32 nobody even made it past the first mission what 🤨
42:45 low-key a hero showing just how ridiculous automated copyright enforcement systems are and the power and carelessness of giant corporations. Of course the only response was for a slightly less than giant corporation to use the pay-to-win legal system to crush them rather than for anything about those ridiculously one-sided and easily exploited systems to change.
Anyone remember how sparrows were introduced. That was controversial. It was a Activision executive who saw his son playing racing games and said it should be in Destiny.
I spent close to 3-400 dollars on Destiny 2 content and none of that content is currently in the game. I hopped off at around season of the splicer.
I haven't played D2 as a dedicated player since Beyond Light. I kept coming back for a couple of weeks and then dropping the game. There's absolutely nothing that I'd like more than a clean slate (so, D3 basically) to pull me back into the franchise. But after hearing the latest news, I think reality finally sunk and I realize that Destiny is a chapter that will forever stay closed in my life.
RIP Destiny, you were one hell of an experience
Day 1 of telling youtube to add super notifs cause its illegal for me to be this late to a Shadow Destiny video
absolutely love these videos, thanks for the good content, and have a good one shadow, keep up the amazing work.
4:40 not simply removed, it was PAID content that was removed. I was a day 1 d2 player and quit the second the started doing that and never returned.
G1 owing Sir D is insane
They owe ALOT of CC's money
You can tell exactly what kind of company runs the game when half if not more of the entries in a drama video are Bungie Blunders. Never going back to supporting bungie again, no matter how good Destiny gets.
I know this video is old now but for any that don’t know the weapon sunsetting has been removed, allowing you to use all weapons in any content again
Oof. The timing! Now we're in another stolen art aituation, and the artist of the veiled statue art just announced they still haven't received the promised compensation.
Great video, please do more like this 👍🏽
i already did :D
@@ShadowDestiny The whole weightgate situation could've ended up in this video if it was known at that time
Yoo, you guys don’t understand how weak I’ve been watching this video, Bungie has made so many people go demon mode it’s not even funny, it’s hilarious, I really can’t explain in words how hysterical this is, shout out shadow destiny thanks for making this video😂
"Part of the Warlock identity" for the airborne dodge but then they make Warlocks and Hunters both do melee better than Titans
Myth when you use the grapple and use triple jump you can jump 3 times and then use grapple and then jump again
I have no sympathy for Kevin Yanes. The way that reads is like a big fat “shut up already” at a proven toxic community. Playing with fire burns, who knew?
Bungie is known for being way too political over the years, they've gotten insane backlash, and just silenced anyone who told them to stay away from it.
33:58 stunting two supers is crazy
0.0% to do with Battle eye and them suing people, 100% to do with Destiny Poo being no longer populair to draw in those crowds. Stuff like Fortnite took away that crowd.
“If you ever get sick of the destiny drama and decide that you want to try something new, check out warthunder”
Meanwhile: war thunder drama being far worse and destructive than destiny drama😭😭
Stay far away from this game.
Yours sincerely,
WT beta player.
Destiny 2 could have been the Guild wars 2 of "here is years of content, lvl up the way you want" instead of deleting everything so you are forced to buy the newest expansion
Sunsetting and vaulting content is exactly the tie breaker that made me just stick to warframe, I’m not ok with a game removing content I paid for and I don’t understand how for any reason anyone else is ok with that. In warframe when I come back Everything is still there and I’m still just as powerful
14:44 holy crap that is a deep cut
It's funny to see bungie claiming they can afford to make more content for Destiny 2 but wont stop development of Marathon. They just need to admit they no longer want to develop the Destiny IP and need another studio to take over.
When the title says DARK, yet no BSK.
As someone who can't afford a pc at the moment, i would like to at least be able to fo seasonal stuff on my phone to get the weapons and armor ornaments until i get a pc and then do raids, pvp and dungeons
The harrassment of the player base is where all the hate stems from. Let this be a lesson to others of how not to treat the people PAYING YOUR EVERYTHING.
I stopped playing destiny probably two months after the first game came out, but this video is very interesting
Starts doom signaling and spreading disinformation at 14:00
Honorable mentioned has to be Pete parsons and his car collection
10:20 nah sorry, bungie literally took years of content that we paid for from us, they deserve all the toxicity they get.
Great video!
The ban of the d2 gunsmith creator was absolutely crazy. Bungie even double downed on the ban and slandered the guy publicly only for it to be quietly reversed. They didn’t even issue an apology to the guy. I don’t blame him for quitting entirely.
The "anti-cheat" 😂😂😂😂😂
33:48 but earlier it was revealed that 1000s of players were unjustly banned when the game first released.
Not sure if u mentioned it yet (not done with vid) but the say no to rage situation is the most detrimental one for me
Getting banned just cuz a dev doesn’t like you gave me ban panic for months and I felt betrayed and confused because how does something like that even happen
Unfortunately many people deleted videos about the situation and it almost seems lost to time
Upper echelon made multiple videos about it especially because the people who went after SNTR also went after him and even striked his videos
Which now that I think about it could be why so many were deleted but it’ll always remain one of the most unspoken scandals in all of bungie history…besides that…dog
Ngl idk which is more fd up
It is probably the most fucked up thing that happened. Most large content creators would never speak up about it bc they were afraid of getting banned/black listed by Bungie. As the narrative shifted that he was mostly innocent, people started saying "I was just listening to my friend's accusations because I trust them". Completely spineless.
@@MrPatpuc even more spineless that a video talking about every single other controversy FAILED to even hint at this situation
Stg it feels like I’m the only one who remembers or even cares about it
The worst part to me is that he got on to get his son black talon and got hit with the ban message
Which makes it even more fucked
Unless I’m getting this confused with someone else this was about 4-5? Years ago now or so and is apparently censored af even to this day so I’m gonna forget some details
@@SepticEmpire Yea, same as the "FAMOUS DESTINY 2 BANS" video.
playing yhe og planets was my favorite part
when all that got deleted for different content, i felt part of my gamer soul die, all that fighting for nothing
People who get butthurt off terms such as "Latinx" are clearly just bored ready to become emotional any chance they get. As a Latino, the terminology has never so much mattered as much as the actual culture, habits, and daily life and practices which take place.
Surprisingly enjoyed this lol
I spent 2 years while working at Google requesting that they stop using the phrase "LatinX", both internally and externally, but they never listened. I'll never understand why people who aren't part of a culture think it's okay to change that culture under the guise of 'inclusivity'.
14:30 - that's not true. We know of one raid and at least one dungeon but most likely 2 that are in development currently. We have 2 upcoming episodes (seasons) they teased that have very cool looking aesthetics tied to them.
22:35 - "allowed people play the ENTIRETY of the final shape expansion multiple days before it was intended to go live. They did take the servers offline quite rapidly and nobody really got too far into the campaign..". A bit of a contradiction there.
GETTING BANNED FOR HAVING A SINGLE PLAYER OFFLINE NOT RUNNING GAME CHEAT IS SNOOPING AND THAT IS INVASION OF PRIVACY!!!!! THEY SHOLD MONITER THERE GAME AND FILES ONLY!!!!!
i hope destiny 2 is able to get back on its feet and continue making expansions I would hate to see one of my favorite games die
Jesus Crumbs, do I even want to play this game?
Destiny community has been through it 😅 never a dull moment. Great video man 👍
Destiny and Bungie there's a book in there somewhere. Good content, thank you.
it’s actually hilarious how this company seems to never learn from their mistakes, took them about seven years to make destiny 2 okay at best; couldn’t have been less surprised to see this company shit itself
19:52
community: “give a warning next time!”
Bungie team: gives a warning next time
Community: >:(
17:20 Meanwhile you can use Golden Gun (Still Hunt) on every class, what a shitshow of a company
Pretty sure titan can dodge now
Damn I'd completely forgotten about the "starter pack" and it was just last season - what a truly scummy move.
Can confirm that Latinx or any other variation of Latino or Latina is disrespectful. Because we don’t need others to tell us what to be offended by and trying to change our culture.
I’m surprised the SNTR drama was not listed in this video.
His big 2 hr evidence piece I think made me the most livid I had ever been at the Destiny Community.
That was truly one of the most insane things to happen.
is the “GGs I guess” thing in here
babe wake up, new shadow destiny vid
I can’t believe you made this video without talking about Luckky and buttwipe