No hate with anything, I personally think Tengen is much stronger, (Ill expain why). Like you said we cant use the running speed to gauge his attack speed however at 3:02 you shown Rengoku blitzing towards Akaza which would require him to travel, we know Tengen is FASTER in terms of traveling than rengoku. If anything this would upscale Tengen and if Tengen were present, Akaza would compliment his speed too, also Akaza wasnt blitzed nor off guard he reacted and I feel like you dragged it a bit (no hate though).
Also Physical features are a big thing in DS (Physiques) our proof would be Gyomei being analyzed by a Kokushibo using STW and Muichiro referencing the physiques of both Tengen and Gyomei. We can use that logic within the verse to justify tengen being physically stronger than Rengoku. Stamina/Endurance wise Tengen takes it. He’s the main DS in the Hashira training who covered it so hed have superior proficiency in his stamina usage. And Endurance he fought with poison in his brain, whole torso, missing a hand, blind in 1 eye. Rengoku fought with a hole in his torso. But Id take Tengens conditions worse. Since he had poison in his brain (gyutaros poisonous sickles struck him in his skull) Also Akaza was trying to recruit Rengoku he didn’t want him to do, and even let him take breaks during their spar. Gyutaro was going for the kill on everyone there while trying to keep his sister safe. Muzan only said that Gyutaro wouldve won due to the poison not due to his strength even though he had an edge on Tengen but his poison was the main contributor and why Tengen passed out.
For destructiveness, Tengen is WAY more destructive due to his Nichirins innaye ability of creating explosions or contact with whatever they strike. IQ/battle IQ also goes to Tengen due to his shinobi background and he has better strategic planning than Rengoku.
At the end of the day it’s all respect and Rengoku just happened to go against Akaza, tengen would have died too. Any of the hashiras before training would most definitely have died to Mugen Train Akaza imo
@@friendlyneighbor8538 ay no hate taken all respect to On paper your argument sounds good but it's contridiceted by feats Tengen at the end of the day is relative to Gyutaro while Rengoku Akaza Blitz attempts usually don't use travel speed they leap forward like with thunder breathing they don't just run up to them Endurance is debatable and Rengoku was probably mental amped during his stomach feat and same thing for strength Overall Rengoku is just much faster and Tengen does take dc strength and endurance the speed gap is way to big
Tengen solos, hes just too good compared to rengoku. R3ngokus breathing is good against demons, including blood demon arts. What troubled tengen was gyutaros blood demon art. Rengoku aint got no powers, hes cooked. Also tengen was poisoned, and with musical score and one hand he went blow for blow with gyutaro, meaning a full healthy tengen would dog walk rengoku. Also gyutaro stated that the first blow he dealt to tengen was a killing blow, yet tengen reacted. Also rengoku got that goku treatment with akaza, as in akaza waited until rengoku practically exhausted everything he had, giving him an opportunityto show his strength. Tengen on the other hand didnt have such an easy time, since gyutaro was going for the kill from the start, plus poison debuff. once again, tengen did insanely well against a blood lusted gyutaro. In all honesty rengoku would be killed by gyutaro and its not even close. Tengen wins, that donut is just way too overrated nowadays
@@eljudah6582 90% of what you said doesn't matter just because a weakened poisoned 1 handed Tengen fought Gyutaro doesn't mean he would beat Rengoku or even scale to Akaza Gyutaro trying to kill from the start doesn't matter Akaza didn't do this lol he fought evenly with him then Akaza won the clash None of what you said are actual feats Rengoku wins
@@sebtw8918 no hate but he's kinda right, and akaza barely even used his techniques, he used one of his basic bdas to clash against rengoku and rengoku still lost but at the end i think rengoku full power wins against tengen but tengen musical score wins against rengoku. Not to mention but when tengen and gyutaro clashed they clashed faster than akaza and rengoku when they were fighting and tengen had 1 arm. but yeeah i think its just a close battle
To me shinobu is the weakest hadhira since her only good frat is being able to blitz Douma(who was holding back and he was most likely faster than her since he blitz her two times)and other than speed,iq,and agility, she has nothing else that could make her actually best someone like Tengen, and to me shes the weakest hadhira(btw this is my hashira list, Gyomei,Sanemi,Giyu,Rengoku, Obanai,Muchiro,Tengen,and Shinobu)
I agree with you ngl I just like to hate on Tengen cause people upscale and glaze him but its pretty close unless you highball Shinobu might might a vid on it
Rengoku is so high since, Obanai is stronger than Nakime(but Nakime is weaker than daki and Kaigaku)and fought fourth drugged Muzan(which any hashira could do)then Muchiros only good feat is killing Gyokko and slightly hearting Kokoshibo but other than that he doesn't have that much and Mitsuri was getting beat by Zohakten even with mark and came out fighting Nakime with scratches, and Rengoku just by fighting Akaza just has better feats
@@jessicamurrell9426 nakime isnt daki or kaigaku level lol shes upper 4 and she has good feats of hitting base Obanai whos relative to marked giyu Obanai fought all the muzan drugs stw Mui can doge ls koko forms Mitsuri was only going to loose cause stamina
heh... I could beat both of them COMBINED. AND ALL THE HASHIRA. AND THE DEMONS. I'm just an alpha like that.. 😈
Nice video. But sadly tengen destroys midgoku the fraud, who was literally sleeping when Tanjiro was fighting the lower one. What a fraud.
YOU'LL GO TO HELL
No hate with anything, I personally think Tengen is much stronger, (Ill expain why). Like you said we cant use the running speed to gauge his attack speed however at 3:02 you shown Rengoku blitzing towards Akaza which would require him to travel, we know Tengen is FASTER in terms of traveling than rengoku. If anything this would upscale Tengen and if Tengen were present, Akaza would compliment his speed too, also Akaza wasnt blitzed nor off guard he reacted and I feel like you dragged it a bit (no hate though).
Also Physical features are a big thing in DS (Physiques) our proof would be Gyomei being analyzed by a Kokushibo using STW and Muichiro referencing the physiques of both Tengen and Gyomei. We can use that logic within the verse to justify tengen being physically stronger than Rengoku. Stamina/Endurance wise Tengen takes it. He’s the main DS in the Hashira training who covered it so hed have superior proficiency in his stamina usage. And Endurance he fought with poison in his brain, whole torso, missing a hand, blind in 1 eye. Rengoku fought with a hole in his torso. But Id take Tengens conditions worse. Since he had poison in his brain (gyutaros poisonous sickles struck him in his skull) Also Akaza was trying to recruit Rengoku he didn’t want him to do, and even let him take breaks during their spar. Gyutaro was going for the kill on everyone there while trying to keep his sister safe. Muzan only said that Gyutaro wouldve won due to the poison not due to his strength even though he had an edge on Tengen but his poison was the main contributor and why Tengen passed out.
For destructiveness, Tengen is WAY more destructive due to his Nichirins innaye ability of creating explosions or contact with whatever they strike. IQ/battle IQ also goes to Tengen due to his shinobi background and he has better strategic planning than Rengoku.
At the end of the day it’s all respect and Rengoku just happened to go against Akaza, tengen would have died too. Any of the hashiras before training would most definitely have died to Mugen Train Akaza imo
@@friendlyneighbor8538 ay no hate taken all respect to
On paper your argument sounds good but it's contridiceted by feats Tengen at the end of the day is relative to Gyutaro while Rengoku Akaza
Blitz attempts usually don't use travel speed they leap forward like with thunder breathing they don't just run up to them
Endurance is debatable and Rengoku was probably mental amped during his stomach feat and same thing for strength
Overall Rengoku is just much faster and Tengen does take dc strength and endurance the speed gap is way to big
Tengen solos, hes just too good compared to rengoku. R3ngokus breathing is good against demons, including blood demon arts. What troubled tengen was gyutaros blood demon art. Rengoku aint got no powers, hes cooked.
Also tengen was poisoned, and with musical score and one hand he went blow for blow with gyutaro, meaning a full healthy tengen would dog walk rengoku.
Also gyutaro stated that the first blow he dealt to tengen was a killing blow, yet tengen reacted.
Also rengoku got that goku treatment with akaza, as in akaza waited until rengoku practically exhausted everything he had, giving him an opportunityto show his strength. Tengen on the other hand didnt have such an easy time, since gyutaro was going for the kill from the start, plus poison debuff. once again, tengen did insanely well against a blood lusted gyutaro. In all honesty rengoku would be killed by gyutaro and its not even close.
Tengen wins, that donut is just way too overrated nowadays
@@eljudah6582 90% of what you said doesn't matter just because a weakened poisoned 1 handed Tengen fought Gyutaro doesn't mean he would beat Rengoku or even scale to Akaza
Gyutaro trying to kill from the start doesn't matter
Akaza didn't do this lol he fought evenly with him then Akaza won the clash
None of what you said are actual feats Rengoku wins
@@sebtw8918 no hate but he's kinda right, and akaza barely even used his techniques, he used one of his basic bdas to clash against rengoku and rengoku still lost but at the end i think rengoku full power wins against tengen but tengen musical score wins against rengoku. Not to mention but when tengen and gyutaro clashed they clashed faster than akaza and rengoku when they were fighting and tengen had 1 arm. but yeeah i think its just a close battle
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Fraudgoku vs bumgen
Daki solos both ngl
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To me shinobu is the weakest hadhira since her only good frat is being able to blitz Douma(who was holding back and he was most likely faster than her since he blitz her two times)and other than speed,iq,and agility, she has nothing else that could make her actually best someone like Tengen, and to me shes the weakest hadhira(btw this is my hashira list, Gyomei,Sanemi,Giyu,Rengoku, Obanai,Muchiro,Tengen,and Shinobu)
I agree with you ngl I just like to hate on Tengen cause people upscale and glaze him but its pretty close unless you highball Shinobu might might a vid on it
Where's Mitsuri on your list?
@@Father_Droid Above Tengen and Shinobu so in 7th
Rengoku is so high since, Obanai is stronger than Nakime(but Nakime is weaker than daki and Kaigaku)and fought fourth drugged Muzan(which any hashira could do)then Muchiros only good feat is killing Gyokko and slightly hearting Kokoshibo but other than that he doesn't have that much and Mitsuri was getting beat by Zohakten even with mark and came out fighting Nakime with scratches, and Rengoku just by fighting Akaza just has better feats
@@jessicamurrell9426 nakime isnt daki or kaigaku level lol shes upper 4 and she has good feats of hitting base Obanai whos relative to marked giyu
Obanai fought all the muzan drugs
stw Mui can doge ls koko forms
Mitsuri was only going to loose cause stamina
Kyojuro top 2 hashira
Nah hes the hes just stronger than Shinobu, tengen solos
@ tengen weaker than them both
@@zephyx5514 nah tengen is the stronger human against rengoku