At about 25:27, I found the "right answer" to be quite strange; if highlighting the good things or strengths about the patient first, then encouraging further by saying that the patient will grow out of the condition, if all that represents "insensitivity", then what would enumerating negative traits and suggesting to "just live with it", for example, represent?! From my perspective, that psychologist was mainly being positive, just most probably sensitive to the patient's feelings. It is difficult for me to pick the right answer, but I'd go for D, or C, in that order, and A would be the last option I'd think of as right. Man, these questions are annoyingly subjective.
Yaseen Rocca I agree. I consider myself a pretty empathetic person and good at understanding people but sometimes I get these questions completely wrong and it makes no sense to me! It seems to depend on what part of the passage you focus in on as being most important. In this case, he said the crux of the response is "he'll grow out of it". Which i understand if the question had specifically quoted that line, but it said the psychologists assessment overall, which like you said, also contained positive elements. Also there was no mention of the patients feelings about his dyslexia, that it upset him, caused him a lot of stress etc, in which case "youll grow out of it" would dismiss his feelings/current issues and I would agree with the answer. But the patient seems fairly stoic about the whole issue, so wouldnt it be making assumptions that the psychs comment is insensitive? Anyway i dont know. Love these videos though thankyou so much for sharing them with us! :)
Yeah I can see that angle too, its really just based on the "growing out of it" statement being insensitive as it preemptively suggests the diagnosis is undesirable to the family. So much of Section 2, like this question, is based on what the majority of people pick, so there's no absolutely objectively correct answer.
Thank you for the video! Just wondering, for Question 7, I guessed it was option B (an acute awareness of the patient's feelings) because though there is some parts of the feedback that shows insensitivity, there still appears to be at the very least an ACUTE or small amount of sensitivity for their feelings when he compliments the patient saying they (further up the passage) "possessed high verbal ability" and also described the patient as "certainly intelligent", if I was in the exam I wouldn't be able to ignore that even though you said that the "he'll grow out of it" is something we should focus on. Am I interpreting the passage wrong? Thanks again :)
No worries :) Acute in this setting means sharp rather than small, so option B suggests the psychologist had a very strong, conscious awareness of the patient and their feelings. Also, phrases like "possessed high verbal intelligence" are very technical rather than conversational, so just because such phrases have positive connotations it doesn't tell you much about the psychologist's manner, i.e. a terrible, uncaring psychologist would still probably use phrases like that if those were his/her findings. Its much better to instead get a sense of the psychologist's personality from their conversational and general interactional skills surrounding the diagnosis, the only real example of which is the "growing out of it" comment, which shows insensitivity over the assumption that the condition is a bad thing which the patient/family would want to get rid of. Most importantly, the question refers to the psychologist's feedback after the exam, which deals with the "growing out of it" statement but not the "high verbal ability" and "certainly intelligent" ones.
Hmm, personally B would not have been my first choice for question number 8 but A. Throughout the passage I feel it's actually pretty strongly implicated that the doctor thinks the mother should to agree to the operation, though obviously for the sake of professionalism he refrains from directly voicing his opinion. "We can't afford to", "like I said", all the little mannerisms of speech that slip out that reflect his subtle frustration, appealing to her (especially evident in part 5.) to take the most pragmatic course of action and consider what what have more of a chance of a better outcome for her child. I believe the mother is aware of this too, she begins by trying to ask him this in a slightly passive aggressive roundabout way "what exactly are you trying to say", continually cutting him off and rebutting him. 'What if I regret this for the rest of my life", her main dilemma is indeed her self-questioning and indecision, but most importantly the fundamental emotions that underpin everything for her in this situation, her fear and love for her child, the prospect of having to bare the burden of responsibility for the consequences of her decision for the rest of her life, the guilt and blame she'd inevitably put upon herself as a mother if it all goes wrong. She is clearly overwhelmed, and although she understands the fact she has to make a decision, that doesn't mean she is ready too, so she really just wants to put it off and have the relief of someone making the decision for her. If the doctor would just say outright what he thought was the better option, then she'd be able to justify whatever the outcome on the account of her following medical advice, ultimately lessening her psychological burden, and perhaps also giving herself the prospect of having something that allows her to potentially escape some of the crushing self-blame. I think her last interjection of "she's just a child!" really seals it for me. Agh, I can't think of the right word to describe it, it's not like it's a completely irrelevant comment, but it's just comes across more like a last desperate attempt of protest, she's still mentally resorting to focusing on the emotional side "it's not fair, she doesn't deserve this", instead of forcing herself to really evaluate the situation at hand as rationally as she can. (And of course, who wouldn't in this situation, it's so difficult, as she said.) This is all what my initial gut feelings told me upon reading the question and I feel they are fairly well substantiated. However, have I been overthinking and overanalysing all of this? Like some of the comments below said, these questions are so subjective, and depending on who/what you focus on in the text, and what you might label as a 'surface motive' compared with the bigger picture/ the underlying root causes can make it really difficult to choose an answer. I think it's rather absurd there's a definitive 'right answer' for these types of questions. A much better model of exam would be if it wasn't just multiple choice but instead extended answer type format that allowed you to more fully demonstrate your EQ, and marks were judged on the level of complexity of your interpretations and the depth of your consideration for various key aspects of human nature, emotion, relationships etc. in a situation. Although not that practical or realistic (probably wouldn't curry much favour with students either as picking a multiple choice answer is so much faster and easier,) I feel it really would make a fairer exam that would be a more accurate measure of your emotional intelligence. I guess kind of like how Ash below me said, it just trips me up, previously considering myself to be an intuitive feeler with a natural grasp on these things and thinking that Section 2 would be my strong point, to get a fair chunk of these questions completely wrong. On the off chance someone actually read through to the end of this lol, can anybody who finds themselves really good at Section 2 tell me how it all works for them?
+phosphene i agree that the answer is not B "what would you do" she's not actually asking the doctor for advice on what he would do, she already knows he strongly advocates the surgery. It's a rhetorical question that she uses because she feels the doctor does not understand that as a mother she cannot look a the situation objectively, it is much harder and difficult for her. she is trying to engender some understanding within him. the answer A is also correct but sounds a bit apathetic to the mother from the student's part. would A or D be the main intention?
+Scientist Ah yes, that's super neat, don't think I could have put it any better. You are really spot on in saying that her overall aim is to try to "engender some understanding" within the doctor. (Haha damn, while there's me down here with my overly long exposition, you've managed to just distill everything into just a few sentences.) Watching the video again, I think I am actually more inclined towards D and yes, it is really just the question of which is the main intention. I was probably getting a bit too carried away with the psychoanalysis in my answer, it's a bad habit I have in real life also. I think heeding the implications, while trying to not overthink it and keeping it simple is the key here. Nevertheless in knowing that, these questions still have me second guessing myself. Hopefully I get the knack of it before July! Thanks for replying btw, I love seeing how other people answer Section 2 because it can be quite subjective. Were there any other questions from the vid where you thought differently from the answer?
+phosphene yeah I'm doing the umat this year, just started preparing :/ I haven't bought any expensive course materials though yet, I don't really know if I should. So I'm just starting with things like this. The last one was the only one where I disagreed from this guy. he took the question 'what would you do' as being a 'question' too literally. Instead of psychoanalyzing a character from an objective point of view, place yourself in that person so that you can have insight into their feelings and empathy also. That said, for the question about Deon and his hospitalized father, my natural instinct was to pick the answer that the passage simply highlighted descriptively how he was hooked up for medical equipment. I have a problem of applying the same logic here as in section 1: to cross out the options 'outside the scope'. But I understand the video guy's answer. We are meant to infer the answer with help from background knowledge of the whole passage. I am too literal sometimes. IT's cool to talk to people also interested in the UMAT and discussing these things, i go to a small school where no one really cares about this stuff :)
+Scientist I'm definitely in the same boat as you, hesitant and a little skeptical about dropping a few hundred on coaching stuff. A few of my friends are doing Medentry, which I was considering, but I just can't justify spending that amount of money haha. As for preparation I've done, I've literally just started too. Somehow I has the sudden revelation that I'd like to go into medicine this year, so I'm also a bit behind. I think we've got enough time though if you knock off an hour or so each weekend even, and in the end some of it just comes down to your natural aptitude. At this point, I just really need to get myself motivated LOL. From what I've seen of Section 3, it seems the easiest to actually improve in through just drills and tough grinding. Practise, practise, practise, learn to pick up on all those patterns :p Section 3 reminds me of the General Reasoning stuff I did back when I sat scholarship tests a long time ago haha, hope I can somehow rediscover those long forgotten skills. I think there's a lot of resources that can help you with Section 3 out there, I've heard getting a book of Raven's Matrices or trying out online IQ tests etc. Some time ago I actually found quite a large amount of UMAT practise exams floating around the internet thanks to some kind stranger somewhere. I'll try and see if I can find where they came from again, if not I'm happy to upload them to something like dropbox and send you a link to them if you like! :)
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Thanks for these videos man, watched every single one of them. Feel like I owe you some kind of compensation for it. Very much appreciated.
Can you please do a tutorial for the doctor-patient interaction component of section 2?
At about 25:27, I found the "right answer" to be quite strange; if highlighting the good things or strengths about the patient first, then encouraging further by saying that the patient will grow out of the condition, if all that represents "insensitivity", then what would enumerating negative traits and suggesting to "just live with it", for example, represent?!
From my perspective, that psychologist was mainly being positive, just most probably sensitive to the patient's feelings. It is difficult for me to pick the right answer, but I'd go for D, or C, in that order, and A would be the last option I'd think of as right. Man, these questions are annoyingly subjective.
Yaseen Rocca I agree. I consider myself a pretty empathetic person and good at understanding people but sometimes I get these questions completely wrong and it makes no sense to me! It seems to depend on what part of the passage you focus in on as being most important. In this case, he said the crux of the response is "he'll grow out of it". Which i understand if the question had specifically quoted that line, but it said the psychologists assessment overall, which like you said, also contained positive elements. Also there was no mention of the patients feelings about his dyslexia, that it upset him, caused him a lot of stress etc, in which case "youll grow out of it" would dismiss his feelings/current issues and I would agree with the answer. But the patient seems fairly stoic about the whole issue, so wouldnt it be making assumptions that the psychs comment is insensitive? Anyway i dont know. Love these videos though thankyou so much for sharing them with us! :)
Yeah I can see that angle too, its really just based on the "growing out of it" statement being insensitive as it preemptively suggests the diagnosis is undesirable to the family. So much of Section 2, like this question, is based on what the majority of people pick, so there's no absolutely objectively correct answer.
Great video thanks a bunch
Thank you! This is super helpful
Thank you for the video! Just wondering, for Question 7, I guessed it was option B (an acute awareness of the patient's feelings) because though there is some parts of the feedback that shows insensitivity, there still appears to be at the very least an ACUTE or small amount of sensitivity for their feelings when he compliments the patient saying they (further up the passage) "possessed high verbal ability" and also described the patient as "certainly intelligent", if I was in the exam I wouldn't be able to ignore that even though you said that the "he'll grow out of it" is something we should focus on. Am I interpreting the passage wrong? Thanks again :)
I.e. it's difficult, I think, to choose between looking for the focus of the passage without considering what surrounds that focal point.
No worries :) Acute in this setting means sharp rather than small, so option B suggests the psychologist had a very strong, conscious awareness of the patient and their feelings. Also, phrases like "possessed high verbal intelligence" are very technical rather than conversational, so just because such phrases have positive connotations it doesn't tell you much about the psychologist's manner, i.e. a terrible, uncaring psychologist would still probably use phrases like that if those were his/her findings. Its much better to instead get a sense of the psychologist's personality from their conversational and general interactional skills surrounding the diagnosis, the only real example of which is the "growing out of it" comment, which shows insensitivity over the assumption that the condition is a bad thing which the patient/family would want to get rid of. Most importantly, the question refers to the psychologist's feedback after the exam, which deals with the "growing out of it" statement but not the "high verbal ability" and "certainly intelligent" ones.
It seemed so subjective but now I get it thank you! :)
Thank you so much for the video!!!
Where did question 6 go? lol
Thanks heaps for the great video! :)
GREAT ... Thanks
thank u very helpful
At 14 minutes, the passage doesn't mention the name Hendrick but the correct answer includes a name not previously mentioned. Does this matter?
Just a typo - in the real thing there wouldn't be mistakes like that
i cant be the only one studying for the umat tomorrow....
legit me right now
I'm studying TODAY RIGHT NOW
OMG did you find it crazy hard too?
Yeah especially the logical reasoning parts. I felt like i was wasting my time on them! lol
Holy shit!!! I was half way through, i was constantly looking at the clock though. Did you finish it then?
Hmm, personally B would not have been my first choice for question number 8 but A. Throughout the passage I feel it's actually pretty strongly implicated that the doctor thinks the mother should to agree to the operation, though obviously for the sake of professionalism he refrains from directly voicing his opinion. "We can't afford to", "like I said", all the little mannerisms of speech that slip out that reflect his subtle frustration, appealing to her (especially evident in part 5.) to take the most pragmatic course of action and consider what what have more of a chance of a better outcome for her child. I believe the mother is aware of this too, she begins by trying to ask him this in a slightly passive aggressive roundabout way "what exactly are you trying to say", continually cutting him off and rebutting him. 'What if I regret this for the rest of my life", her main dilemma is indeed her self-questioning and indecision, but most importantly the fundamental emotions that underpin everything for her in this situation, her fear and love for her child, the prospect of having to bare the burden of responsibility for the consequences of her decision for the rest of her life, the guilt and blame she'd inevitably put upon herself as a mother if it all goes wrong. She is clearly overwhelmed, and although she understands the fact she has to make a decision, that doesn't mean she is ready too, so she really just wants to put it off and have the relief of someone making the decision for her. If the doctor would just say outright what he thought was the better option, then she'd be able to justify whatever the outcome on the account of her following medical advice, ultimately lessening her psychological burden, and perhaps also giving herself the prospect of having something that allows her to potentially escape some of the crushing self-blame. I think her last interjection of "she's just a child!" really seals it for me. Agh, I can't think of the right word to describe it, it's not like it's a completely irrelevant comment, but it's just comes across more like a last desperate attempt of protest, she's still mentally resorting to focusing on the emotional side "it's not fair, she doesn't deserve this", instead of forcing herself to really evaluate the situation at hand as rationally as she can. (And of course, who wouldn't in this situation, it's so difficult, as she said.)
This is all what my initial gut feelings told me upon reading the question and I feel they are fairly well substantiated. However, have I been overthinking and overanalysing all of this? Like some of the comments below said, these questions are so subjective, and depending on who/what you focus on in the text, and what you might label as a 'surface motive' compared with the bigger picture/ the underlying root causes can make it really difficult to choose an answer. I think it's rather absurd there's a definitive 'right answer' for these types of questions. A much better model of exam would be if it wasn't just multiple choice but instead extended answer type format that allowed you to more fully demonstrate your EQ, and marks were judged on the level of complexity of your interpretations and the depth of your consideration for various key aspects of human nature, emotion, relationships etc. in a situation. Although not that practical or realistic (probably wouldn't curry much favour with students either as picking a multiple choice answer is so much faster and easier,) I feel it really would make a fairer exam that would be a more accurate measure of your emotional intelligence. I guess kind of like how Ash below me said, it just trips me up, previously considering myself to be an intuitive feeler with a natural grasp on these things and thinking that Section 2 would be my strong point, to get a fair chunk of these questions completely wrong.
On the off chance someone actually read through to the end of this lol, can anybody who finds themselves really good at Section 2 tell me how it all works for them?
+phosphene i agree that the answer is not B "what would you do" she's not actually asking the doctor for advice on what he would do, she already knows he strongly advocates the surgery. It's a rhetorical question that she uses because she feels the doctor does not understand that as a mother she cannot look a the situation objectively, it is much harder and difficult for her. she is trying to engender some understanding within him. the answer A is also correct but sounds a bit apathetic to the mother from the student's part. would A or D be the main intention?
+Scientist Ah yes, that's super neat, don't think I could have put it any better. You are really spot on in saying that her overall aim is to try to "engender some understanding" within the doctor. (Haha damn, while there's me down here with my overly long exposition, you've managed to just distill everything into just a few sentences.)
Watching the video again, I think I am actually more inclined towards D and yes, it is really just the question of which is the main intention. I was probably getting a bit too carried away with the psychoanalysis in my answer, it's a bad habit I have in real life also. I think heeding the implications, while trying to not overthink it and keeping it simple is the key here. Nevertheless in knowing that, these questions still have me second guessing myself. Hopefully I get the knack of it before July!
Thanks for replying btw, I love seeing how other people answer Section 2 because it can be quite subjective. Were there any other questions from the vid where you thought differently from the answer?
+phosphene yeah I'm doing the umat this year, just started preparing :/ I haven't bought any expensive course materials though yet, I don't really know if I should. So I'm just starting with things like this. The last one was the only one where I disagreed from this guy. he took the question 'what would you do' as being a 'question' too literally. Instead of psychoanalyzing a character from an objective point of view, place yourself in that person so that you can have insight into their feelings and empathy also. That said, for the question about Deon and his hospitalized father, my natural instinct was to pick the answer that the passage simply highlighted descriptively how he was hooked up for medical equipment. I have a problem of applying the same logic here as in section 1: to cross out the options 'outside the scope'. But I understand the video guy's answer. We are meant to infer the answer with help from background knowledge of the whole passage. I am too literal sometimes. IT's cool to talk to people also interested in the UMAT and discussing these things, i go to a small school where no one really cares about this stuff :)
+phosphene section 3 is what's killing me
+Scientist I'm definitely in the same boat as you, hesitant and a little skeptical about dropping a few hundred on coaching stuff. A few of my friends are doing Medentry, which I was considering, but I just can't justify spending that amount of money haha. As for preparation I've done, I've literally just started too. Somehow I has the sudden revelation that I'd like to go into medicine this year, so I'm also a bit behind. I think we've got enough time though if you knock off an hour or so each weekend even, and in the end some of it just comes down to your natural aptitude. At this point, I just really need to get myself motivated LOL.
From what I've seen of Section 3, it seems the easiest to actually improve in through just drills and tough grinding. Practise, practise, practise, learn to pick up on all those patterns :p Section 3 reminds me of the General Reasoning stuff I did back when I sat scholarship tests a long time ago haha, hope I can somehow rediscover those long forgotten skills. I think there's a lot of resources that can help you with Section 3 out there, I've heard getting a book of Raven's Matrices or trying out online IQ tests etc.
Some time ago I actually found quite a large amount of UMAT practise exams floating around the internet thanks to some kind stranger somewhere. I'll try and see if I can find where they came from again, if not I'm happy to upload them to something like dropbox and send you a link to them if you like! :)
THank youuu
Am i the only who watched the entire video after looking for a User MATerial (UMAT)tutorial ? hahaha