Italian ground forces: speed and firepower / War Thunder
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- We’ve already talked about the Soviet, the American and the British vehicles in great detail. Now it’s time to discuss the latest recruits - today we dive into the Italian ground tech tree which finally took its glorious final shape in the Supersonic update.
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Seems like we made an oopsie! The Leopard certainly has HEAT shells too, sorry for that! 6:19
so when are you moving qf 40 to 7.7?and other copy paste tanks that have higher br then regular ones
The OF-40 has a better heat shell then the leopard 1 and it gets a laser range finder which can make it a terrifying sniper.
The OF40 and Leo1 Heatfs are the same.
Hochachtungsvoll,
Ponnes
OOPSIE DOOPSIE!
Can you guys please do something about the allied bombers, we literally have no chance of success, I can't fly one mission without dying and scoring no points
Italy: I’m the king of the skies while on the ground.
First
R3 go brrrt
Well, also OTOMATIC
Italians are great at sea too.
"This tech tree isn't about defense, it's about speed and firepower."
L6/40: "Which category do I fall into?"
Bruh I keep bouncing on that Italian car
Low effort distraction.
Cannon fodder.
smol
the 75 (and 105 )/m43 has an incredible front armor, 100mm for a 3.3 br tank destroyer
Bruce: "so don't go hunting enemy KV-1s
PhlyDaily: Hold my beer-
lol
Bo did it as well
It's funny how the game is trying to hide the fact that the R3-T20 FA HS can kill anything except the KV-1...
you can even kill KV-1's with it if you are lucky enough
@@meeknuggets4860 You can bully them if you shoot off the tracks and cannon, aim a little above the tracks around where the gunner should be and there's a gap between the gas tanks you can shoot through, so you can kill KV-1s, just need to be very close and hope they don't have team mates nearby
@@theBrid-gv8je thats why I said "lucky enough". need to be lucky enough that enough shots slip through and no teammates are around.
@@meeknuggets4860 Well now they know where to shoot to increase their chances... for better or worse
You could set it on fire if you are close enough. Idk if i did a trapshot or something but manage to get the engine on fire.
2:56 and *DIT*
*DITAAA*
Ditaaaaaaaaaa
Dick
@@lordtomlluckrahthegreat9014 er Max
Di AC1 Sentinel's hull machine gun cover
I talk Italian and every time I hear that voice try to say Italian words I die
Me too and i am italian
you 2 are Italian?please name 10 different types of pizzas and spaghetis
@@2928e8 that's racist (jk)
@@italiancountryball865 no questo è proprio razzismo
@@2928e8 Pizza: Margerita, Quattro stagioni, Capricciosa, Al Salamino, Prosciutto funghi, Suicidal(Pineapple)
Pasta: Marinara, Misto mare, Bolognese, al Pesto, Pomodoro, Ragù, all' americana (ketchupp and it's a crime.
Favourite Italian for me will have to be the B1 Centauro and the Otomatic. They both seem like good fighting vehicles for getting the job done
2:55 *Video editing 100*
And What ?!??!
What is your secret !??@
And dip?
when your mic sudden stops working lol
3:21 "if you like the german 8.8 flak[bus]... armoured car, armed with the same 90mm cannon"
really? 8.8cm are 90mm?
They mean the same cannon as the 90 servomente they talked before that. Though I can see how the sentence steucture is misleading.
88mm and 90mm are not that far stretch of a bore
@@richie_23 try firing a 90mm shell with a 88mm gun
He's rounding the number so he doesn't have to repeat himself
@@happalula Squeeze-bore. Technicality I know but, it's a option on how to shoot a 90mm shell in a 8.8cm cannon.
2:18 I appreciate the effort lmao
They got close
@@fabriziodini5806 It's not just the pronunciation, he changed most of the letters
Ha fallito 😭
Confesso che mi ha quasi fatto ridere
6:20 I like how they get facts wrong about their own game 😂😂😂
OOPSIE DOOPSIE
I thought Leopards were famous at 7.3 for their heat shells lol
Next patch they throw Leopards at 8.0 to ensure balans )))))))
esistdonnichtdom you shut your mouth
r/woosh
It still amazes me how many tanks I’ve killed with the AS42. It’s a speeding beast
I think it's my best performing low tier tank, I really got to learn the game in italian low tier
2:56 what?
Well this Is not right
Please fix if you can
It's probably distance at 2:56
And Dit... AAAAAAA
d..... - probably censored :)
Got that too.
@@mateuszk3812 oh you d...
I honestly have had some of my best rounds in the ab41. The trick is to keep an eye on your map and make sure nobody gets behind you as you flank their lines. In the lower tiers its cannon eats the other vehicles with the pz40 ammo.
bro I struggle to pen german light tanks with the thing? for the situations where you can pen the cannon's pretty insane, but that doesn't happen often
AB43 a Skd.kss.233 thing idk I call it the focker wagen but the AB 43 is like that but weaker
The tanks Anzio wishes they had :p
I like the new SPG's
Spaghetti Propelled Guns that is
nathan de crom
(Marinia) Sauce Propelled Guns
🤦
🤦
6:20
"unlike the Leopard the OF-40 has access to HEAT shells"
.........uhmm....... Gaijin....... I think you did an oopsie...... and since you say that it's because of this added shell type why the OF-40 has a .3 higher BR compared to the Leo, then you should move it down to 7.7 where it belongs
ThaHouseKid oopsie doopsie
100% agree
It's 8.0 because the gun is stabilized
@@simonenot5839 except it's not
This happen when u dont play your own game
" 20mm Oilerkin with not as powerful shells"
Everyone: *mhm sure*
1: 1:45 tank hunting with a tank that has an ammo capacity of only 8 rounds? what a joke
2: 2:56 editing mistake? or is it a DITA mention? xD
3: 5:30 M36 in the SPAA tree? since when is our SPG tree anti-air?
4: 6:20 play your own game, mr narrator. The leopard DOES have HEAT, so there is NO reason to have the OF40 at 8.0 according to your "it has heat so that's why the BR is higher" statement
What about when he was talking about the M60A1 and then started talking about it as the M47? That be a good one to add to the list of fuckups!
He just reads the script, so whoever wrote the script, never played the game
SU-5-1 : did someone say 8 rounds?
The OF-40 and the Leo I are quite literally the same tank with a different name, I don't see any reason for the 0.7 BR difference, especially as 7.3 and 8.0 have very different metas
The 8 round TD is worth the 8 rounds.. each round that hits is like a kv-2 he shell detonating inside their tank.. and nothing can soak the shell.. yeah your not easily going to get a double ace, but I have seen people get 8 kills with 8 shots.. and that is the point of it...
The first Semovente (75/18) is hilariousely overtiered. Most shells have worse penetration than preceeding Tier I vehicles lol
all of it overtiered P40s 75/18/32/34 and 105/25 is very overtiered 2.7 should be the good
It does get a HEAT round which is ridiculously overpowered now soooo
5:30 M36 is AA? Did I miss memo or am I going complitely insane?
Uh Anti Atank? I dunno 😂
Henshel
Self. Propelled. Anti. Armor.
“Cannono da novanto” lol
Lol, sembra l'accento torrese(Torre del Greco in provincia di Napoli haha)
My favourite is the Fiat Panda 4x4 1987
(in dark green colour of course)
6:20 Gaijin play your own game! This is why players hated the Stock Syndrome video and retaliated and why your media guy was witchhunted. As well if you bothered to play test your game then you’d realize that Italian tier 2-3 is severely over tiered.
NOPE it is not. I am playing it right now, and it is as fun as heck. Yes, they get a few th8ngs wrong but nobody is perfect
that moment you realize we're close to Mig-23 era and Mig-21 era
@Helge Dalsgaard Holme how far into the future do I gotta go to get a T-90A ffs
tree not yet, I need my Mig-23 MLA
The C1 Ariete (P) is a big Favourite of mine. Perform just as great as a Leopard 2A4 for me. And they are fantastic combo with G91 R/1. Just like the Leopard 2 (any of them) or KpZ 70 with a BO105 light helicopter.
#BRINGBACKNIGEL
BRING NIGEL HOME FOR TEA AND BISCUITS
2:56
I know they tried to say
" *DITAAAAAAA* "
Its pretty crazy how the R3-T20 went from BR 3.3 to 5.7.
"However unlike the the Leopard the OF-40 has access to heat shells with a penetration rate of 400 millimeters. That's why it has a higher Battle Rating 8.0." 6:20 6:32
excuse me but the Leopard 1 and the German M48 all have the same ammunition therefore saying the OF-40 is a higher Battle Rating is just wrong and invalid that means the M48, M60, Leopard 1 and all other tanks with the 303 millimeter penetration APDS and the 400 millimeter penetration HEAT-FS should all be 8.0 or the OF-40 should be 7.7 like the rest of them
*Speedy meatball launchers**
And small olive Machine guns. And fueled by pure olive oil.
Those meat Ball's are weapons of war
Spicy pasta as HE
Stop Say bullshits.
eat pasta kill fasta
Meanwhile German tank players are just sitting over in the corner mumbling things about how Germany has the best tanks and how unfair it is that Italy got a video before them.
Shooting range needs so much more attention. It’s too good to go unnoticed by anybody.
German Wiesel with TOW when?
@Martin Max @War Thunder We need this thing!!! And the Wiesel with AA capabilities :D
I hope they would make it as silent as irl.
The talisman for R3 T106 is my best purchase)
L3/33 is sad it wasn't mentioned.
Piaggio P50 both versions and G91Y
Hey gaijin there is a glitch in the PS4 version where the tank crew of every country speaks english in realistic battles the Crew league seating doesn't work.
Please fix.
Attempt#15
15?! Take it to the forum, not here. Devs actively read it
@@axeavier where?
@@axeavier link please
it has been documented in the forums but has not been fixed.
it's been like this since 1.81.
Well i will comment in every video until it is fixed.
Big 3 mains: why do you like italy so much?
Me: speed and power
Its time for the B1 120mm or the B1 Draco
Attempt #2
Fix Javelin
R3-T20 "at br 3.3 it only has one 20mm auto cannon you shouldn't tank hunt with it" if only they knew what they had unleashed on the masses even now at 5.0 it's still really strong.
They removed the op ammo tho don’t they?
Swedish tech tree now plz. A really interesting mix of unique "homemade" vehichles and licenced vehichles from both "sides" of ww2!
Give the french a proper top tier
Your wish has been granted with the leclerc
SierraDelta71 -02 unfortunately, it is typically French as it is too pricy to play with a profit consistently
Leclerc Is good
Almost every player don't know how to kill a Leclerc or even where to shoot
how the hell did you get above rank 2 without your SL going into the negatives
Only two issue with the Premium M60A1 Ariete Patton. (But this is true about the American one as well of course!) First! Not to have APDSFS is a big draw back in a full up tier face to face with T64A and T72A. For make it competitive please add an APDSFS for it or change the battle rating from 8.3 down to 8.0 and it wil be perfect! Second! Please give a fair price for the HEATFS round! The Ariete M60A1 have a more than double price for HEATFS than German and Japanese tanks! A thousand Silver Lion is way too much! 10 shot in a game coast us 10 thousand Silver Lions. This is a premium for grind isn't it? Grind is not about research points only but Silver Lion as well! We don't want only unlock the tanks and than grind the required Silver Lion somewhere else to buy them! Make it coast effective and remove the extra price please!
What about the broken mantlet?
The American M60A1 (AOS) doesn’t get APFSDS so why is it special that the Italians get it and not the Americans?
Sincere Eastman
They both should get it if they're stuck sitting at 8.3
Hey boss, I agree 1,000 lions is a lot but the M60A1 Ariete has the same gun as the XM-1 and the XM-1 has a 1,000 price for them too im pretty sure so I believe its perfectly fair.
If you look at it deeply, the whole M26-M60A1 line is fully 0.3 BR HIGHER than what it should actually be. Every single tank from the M26 to the M60A1 should get their br lowered 0.3 points.
What's the use... please just FIX the ridiculous repair, ammo and upgrade SL costs so we can actually play
and yes even with premium account it's insane the ingame economy is simply broken
I think it's fair now.
i, without premium, have never ran out of SL and yes, i play top tier
git gud
Stop playing Abrams. Problem solved. ;)
The rep and upgrade costs are fine, only problem is the ammo cost, which is just cancerous
@@axeavier no it's worse than ever
My favourite vehicle is the B1 Centauro
I’m italian and I saw this vehicle every time I go in padania
Federico Andreoletti Padania independent nation
where is C1 ariete
Dion Gooranah they are in Piemonte ready to enter in war thunder!!
Jeremy Clarkson when reviewing military vehicle: Speed and Firepower!
I find it funny that my tactic of, only forward never back. Is a very valid tactic for these vehicles.
Make the M60 Ariete great again (or for the first time)!
2:54 - “ pick a good firing position, play thoughtfully and D- “
He wanted to say "Defend the D point"
I was wondering if anyone was gunna comment on that skip
Will there be BR changes for the italian tech tree? I feel like a few of them really need to be increased (such as the R3 T20) and decreased (such as the M36B1 to at least 5.7). Also, will we see more machines for the italians in the near future? Some BR's are completely empty for them
We need more italy love
So that's why Clarkson likes Italian cars, Speed and Power
I like how at 6:25 they are like oh the leopard does not get HEAT so that is why the OF-40 is 8.0. (Checks leopard 1 stats) oh look the leopard actually has the exact same round!
*L3/33 masterrace*
Is there any hope of seeing the P43 and P43 bis tanks in game?
At the moment my favourite italian tank is the M14/41...
I would say no. Since they were never Build. Only wooden mock up stage. But you never know.
It's good to hear this Narator
Here's what I don't get:
Leopard I: has three rounds (apds, hesh, heat), ~70mm armour, 105mm gun with 8s reload, 72kph max speed.
BR 7.3
OF-40: has three rounds (apds, hesh, heat), ~70mm armour, 105mm gun with 8s reload, 72kph max speed.
BR 8.0
Same engine, same gun, same rounds, same armour, same gun depression/traverse, same speed, same weight, basically the same tank. Different BR.
what is the meaning of this
Leo 1 is 7.7 and also stats arent everythjng
Gaijin, the Leopard 1 Also pen 400mm with heat, u dont have any logic reason to put the OF-40 in 8.0, it must be 7.7 like the Centauro.
This
They should fix the BR and DM of the Centauro while they're at it. It's been too long for that thing to still be bugged.
There is nothing wrong with it just learn to aim for the turret instead for the hull, because the engine and empty space eat alot of damage just like every engine compartment.
Hochachtungsvoll,
Ponnes
2:56 nobody:
War Thunder: *DIT*
B 52 will it ever be a thing in war thunder??????
Pls let it be a thing in war thunder please 😖😖😖😖😖
Oh HELL no
B52 is designed to penetrate enemy airspace and not be intercepted. Which creates a huge problem for air rb
I recommend forgetting ever getting modern bombers
I finally get the aubl 74 hvg to start my Italian tree, it performs so good in assault mode. I love it! ( coz no need to pay for the 220sl apfsds!)
First thing.. Love the British commentator He's a real find. Secondly, the OTOMATIC is an amazing machine, for God's sake don't nerf it. Anything else for the Italian tech tree? Carry on!
P44 Pantera! The unfinished project took from the German Panther! Please DO it!
#SaveNigel
1:34 * oneshots a MiG-15Bis every time *
Will you ever talk about the Japanese tree
@Daniele Fabbro ewww type 95 ha go type 97 chi ha type 3 chi nu
Bigger Naval ships when?
I've been hyped to find out what a Heavy Cruiser will play like!
Just a quick thing: the Italian Sherman firefly has 5 crew memebers on xrays but following the stat card it only has 4. Please fix
aint no way that OF-40 killed the IS-7 6:27
2:55 audio cut ???
Lies lies lies..
. Almost all tanks have HEAT-FS at 7.7..
Why QF-40?!
it have no place at 8.0!
The italians are great up until around 6.0 they drop off hard like really hard it gets so bad I rarely see anyone besides me using them
The m60 a1's cannon is always happy. It has no gun depression
When you talk about germans?
Any project about the spanish Verdeja 1 and Verdeja 2 (even the SPG version of the Verdeja 1)? I think ypu can add it to the german or soviet tech tree (like the TAM) because this vehicles were inspired in the german Pz. I and the soviet T-26, were only prototypes but you can put it in the game even with that.
Also, the game economy is very bad, pretty difficult to obtain silver leons if you are a bad player so you loose the interest on continue playing.
Thanks you Gaijin if you read this.
And your welcome if I helped on an idea to add new vehicles to the game or upgrading the gamr economy.
The tech tree M26 is identical in firepower, mobility and survivability to the 6.3 M26, but it is 6.7 instead. The OF-40 has access to HEAT therefore it is 8.0? THE LEOPARD I HAS ACCESS TO THEM AS WELL. Have you stopped caring this quick?
And fix APDS once and for all, FFS
The M26A1 has 5mm more pen so higher BR is justified comrade ))))))))))))))))) (just give it HEAT smh)
So I have discovered there are 2 ways to play Italians.
1 scout so much and jump into strange spots and hit when you can.
Way 2 is have a battle buddy that distracts the enemy while you aim for the enemy gun and drive wheels.
Imagine a line of wheeled tank destroyers in wot. Oh god the issues that would cause.
why doesn’t the stug III G or the stuH have MG’s?
Because German tank destroyers in ww2 did not need an MG, they were used from far away so a close defense weapon was pretty much useless.
@@glassofwater1792 StuG is an assault gun
Where is the track armor for the Italian tanks in rank 1 and 2 they usually had them on and sandbags but I prefer track, survivability is what I need
they are just light pasta machines
So America/Germany/Italy/Britain/so where the hell is Japan And France(both haven't been fully fleshed out cause they are missing A LOT/like Concept Vehicles Which people want even if they existed or not/you already shown that concept tanks are capable of combat and can be killed Like The Ho-Ri which is weak when shot around the turret flat plate but has enough armor to not be killed when shot from the 70 degree angled plate or Char B1 Ter which did exist as a prototype but never saw combat
I'm just being patient and waiting
I really hope more French vehicles will be added, especially armoured cars, as well as for the Brits (B1ter is already in game)
Muh AMX-30 ACRA (and AMX-32)
Why not want the ELC series? There's 4-5 weird vehicles there that all existed
We need heavy artillery vehicles to be added to the game, so that we can properly derp on all the different tech trees, like the SU-14-1, or the semovente da 149/40, or the m110a2 for the US. And I don't mean that filthy WoT orbital laser garbage, I mean all direct fire, almost no armor and a long reload to balance them out though. But they'll have really powerful HE and HEAT shells for obliterating things at long range. Plus they would get proper range finding equipment in the modifications too.
Or the 155 mm amx30
The semovante m41m is the best. It’s awesome at killing leopards and bmp. Just have to be patient. I keep it in top tier lineup for fun. I wait in bushes for tank to pass. They are oblivious. Italians overall are awesome at carrying matches. Can’t take on enemy good in flat out assault but play smart and reliably farm higher tiers.
Lets talk about the M3 75mm GMC’s reload time.
Is it me or is most of the videos have bomber planes doing amazing stuff like destroying 6 units or shoot from 4 miles away
6:20 the Leo 1 has the same heat fs
Now that the centauro is in the game, is there any possibility of the MGS1128 Stryker, or any other wheeled tank destroyers/hunters?
So....that’s the reason why the C-1 Ariete isn’t in the game? Because it isn’t “light”
What is my favorite Italian machine? Probably the AS 42
@ 3:00 twin brothers at the same unit.
Best Italian tank is CV33 lol. It's really funny and deadly if used correctly.
Germans, japans and French - *Am I a joke to you ?*
video is bugged as is the italian ground forces
Please do something about repair cost I am in br 6.0 and the repair cost of single tank is 10000 please fix this
Be ready to pay, repair costs on ground tanks can go upwards of 20k
The b29 has or had a repair cost of 60k, the TU-4 also has a really high repair cost
Exactly
In france 6.7 and 7.0 tanks are 20000 k per tank since their arrival they won’t change ir
My favourite Italian vehicle is a Ferrari 308GTS , usually driven by a man with a magnificent mustache :D
The M42/M43 varieties. They boast very decent armour and murderously powerful HEAT shells for their br. Not to mention their maneuvering ability. This makes them effective bunkers to defend key positions and are a threat to even KVs and churchills
The R3 just has the one cannon, hunt dow. Aircraft and not KV-1s.
R3s in actual combat, I killed 3 KV-1 barrels and 4 KV-1 tracks. They didnt come back as aircraft. So I decided to set a lap time at the Nurburgring while I was at it.
"Of Course and it is completely devoid of armor...but you're used to that."
Glass Cannon it is
They should add swedish tanks/planes/ship
Okeh