yes! metal to me is more of a state, than a musical genre, just like punk, many non punk bands have been more punk than many punk bands, etc for many types of music, more about the vibe and what is 'in between the music' than anything else
It lowkey sucked shit tbf, and i love the frick out of William Patrick Corgan to an extent, putting aside his political views and weird ideologies of different musicians. Here is why he is objectively a bad live performer - 1. Lack of Engagement with the Audience One common criticism leveled against Corgan's live performances is his perceived lack of engagement with the audience. Many concertgoers expect more than just a recital of songs; they seek a connection with the performer, a sense of intimacy that transcends the music itself. However, Corgan has been criticized for his aloof demeanor onstage, often appearing detached and disinterested in interacting with the crowd. His stoic presence can create a barrier between him and the audience, diminishing the overall concert experience. 2. Inconsistent Vocal Performance Another aspect of Corgan's live performances that has drawn criticism is his inconsistent vocal delivery. While he possesses a unique vocal timbre that has become synonymous with The Smashing Pumpkins' sound, there are instances where his live vocals fall short of expectations. Critics have pointed to issues such as pitchiness, strained vocals, and a lack of vocal range as detractors from his live performances. This inconsistency can detract from the overall quality of the concert and leave fans feeling disappointed. 3. Minimal Stage Presence In addition to his vocal performance, Corgan's stage presence has also been a point of contention for some critics. While he undoubtedly commands attention with his towering stature and iconic bald head, there are times when his stage presence feels static and uninspired. Critics argue that Corgan's lack of movement and energy onstage fails to captivate the audience and create a memorable concert experience. In comparison to other dynamic performers who exude charisma and stage presence, Corgan's demeanor can seem lackluster by comparison. 4. Reliance on Nostalgia As The Smashing Pumpkins continue to tour and perform live, there is a sense among some critics that Corgan relies too heavily on nostalgia to carry his live performances. While fans undoubtedly have a deep affection for the band's classic hits, there is a desire for new material and fresh energy in their live shows. Critics argue that Corgan's reluctance to deviate from the familiar setlist of fan favorites limits the potential for innovation and excitement in his live performances. 5. Dismissive Attitude Towards Critics Perhaps most concerning is Corgan's dismissive attitude towards critics and fans who voice their criticisms of his live performances. Rather than engaging in constructive dialogue or introspection, Corgan has been known to dismiss negative feedback as the musings of "tools" or irrelevant opinions not worthy of consideration. This lack of receptivity to feedback reflects a stubbornness that can hinder personal and artistic growth. In conclusion, while Billy Corgan undoubtedly possesses immense talent as a songwriter and musician, his live performances have drawn criticism from some quarters. Issues such as a perceived lack of engagement with the audience, inconsistent vocal performance, minimal stage presence, reliance on nostalgia, and a dismissive attitude towards critics have all contributed to this perception. However, it's essential to recognize that opinions on Corgan's live performances are subjective and may vary among fans and critics. Labeling those who disagree with one's perspective as "tools" oversimplifies the issue and detracts from meaningful discourse on the topic. Ultimately, the debate surrounding Billy Corgan's live performances serves as a reminder of the complex relationship between artists and their audiences, and the importance of constructive criticism in fostering growth and improvement.
@@josifyyy I've soaked in their discography from front to back. I've seen them live. I disagree. It's the attitude that makes the performance, the skill that makes it memorable, the vibe that makes it Rock 'n Roll i.e. can't handle the heat stay out of the kitchen lol all the mainstream critiques and other *non-essential* BS aside, he actually connects very deeply to his audience and has for a long time to the ones that come back decade after decade, album after album. so, there's built-in understanding or language between him and the audience, as a collective. It's a "performance" after all, he's not there to be friends with everyone lol I think they like it, they keep showing up and so does he. Enough said.
Okay, say what you will about D’arcy and James in terms of their musical skills; yeah maybe they didn’t necessarily contribute much to their studio recordings, but the fact that they can play live at this fucking intensity is impressive by itself.. like fuck
They played on everything after Siamese Dream until they left the band. It was always a case of Billy being a control freak more than their ability, if you listen to live shows they were both obviously good musicians.
@@RandyRhoadsRules3 that’s not true actually and I’m not trying to bash them, James and D’Arcy played a little more on MCIS, some songs they didn’t participate on with Adore but they played more than their earlier albums still, and D’Arcy played nothing at all on Machina
@@RandyRhoadsRules3 it was warranted. tbf they weren't up to snuff, no shade on them for that it's water over the dam at this point but the vision and the art was first and foremost. The songs deserved it. I love the both of them for their ability and personalities and crushed so hard on D'arcy lol Personally, I believe Corgan has been vindicated all these years later. The critical AND public reaction to S.D. post-release says it all. IMO.
It lowkey sucked shit tbf, and i love the frick out of William Patrick Corgan to an extent, putting aside his political views and weird ideologies of different musicians. Here is why he is objectively a bad live performer - 1. Lack of Engagement with the Audience One common criticism leveled against Corgan's live performances is his perceived lack of engagement with the audience. Many concertgoers expect more than just a recital of songs; they seek a connection with the performer, a sense of intimacy that transcends the music itself. However, Corgan has been criticized for his aloof demeanor onstage, often appearing detached and disinterested in interacting with the crowd. His stoic presence can create a barrier between him and the audience, diminishing the overall concert experience. 2. Inconsistent Vocal Performance Another aspect of Corgan's live performances that has drawn criticism is his inconsistent vocal delivery. While he possesses a unique vocal timbre that has become synonymous with The Smashing Pumpkins' sound, there are instances where his live vocals fall short of expectations. Critics have pointed to issues such as pitchiness, strained vocals, and a lack of vocal range as detractors from his live performances. This inconsistency can detract from the overall quality of the concert and leave fans feeling disappointed. 3. Minimal Stage Presence In addition to his vocal performance, Corgan's stage presence has also been a point of contention for some critics. While he undoubtedly commands attention with his towering stature and iconic bald head, there are times when his stage presence feels static and uninspired. Critics argue that Corgan's lack of movement and energy onstage fails to captivate the audience and create a memorable concert experience. In comparison to other dynamic performers who exude charisma and stage presence, Corgan's demeanor can seem lackluster by comparison. 4. Reliance on Nostalgia As The Smashing Pumpkins continue to tour and perform live, there is a sense among some critics that Corgan relies too heavily on nostalgia to carry his live performances. While fans undoubtedly have a deep affection for the band's classic hits, there is a desire for new material and fresh energy in their live shows. Critics argue that Corgan's reluctance to deviate from the familiar setlist of fan favorites limits the potential for innovation and excitement in his live performances. 5. Dismissive Attitude Towards Critics Perhaps most concerning is Corgan's dismissive attitude towards critics and fans who voice their criticisms of his live performances. Rather than engaging in constructive dialogue or introspection, Corgan has been known to dismiss negative feedback as the musings of "tools" or irrelevant opinions not worthy of consideration. This lack of receptivity to feedback reflects a stubbornness that can hinder personal and artistic growth. In conclusion, while Billy Corgan undoubtedly possesses immense talent as a songwriter and musician, his live performances have drawn criticism from some quarters. Issues such as a perceived lack of engagement with the audience, inconsistent vocal performance, minimal stage presence, reliance on nostalgia, and a dismissive attitude towards critics have all contributed to this perception. However, it's essential to recognize that opinions on Corgan's live performances are subjective and may vary among fans and critics. Labeling those who disagree with one's perspective as "tools" oversimplifies the issue and detracts from meaningful discourse on the topic. Ultimately, the debate surrounding Billy Corgan's live performances serves as a reminder of the complex relationship between artists and their audiences, and the importance of constructive criticism in fostering growth and improvement.
It lowkey sucked shit tbf, and i love the frick out of William Patrick Corgan to an extent, putting aside his political views and weird ideologies of different musicians. Here is why he is objectively a bad live performer - 1. Lack of Engagement with the Audience One common criticism leveled against Corgan's live performances is his perceived lack of engagement with the audience. Many concertgoers expect more than just a recital of songs; they seek a connection with the performer, a sense of intimacy that transcends the music itself. However, Corgan has been criticized for his aloof demeanor onstage, often appearing detached and disinterested in interacting with the crowd. His stoic presence can create a barrier between him and the audience, diminishing the overall concert experience. 2. Inconsistent Vocal Performance Another aspect of Corgan's live performances that has drawn criticism is his inconsistent vocal delivery. While he possesses a unique vocal timbre that has become synonymous with The Smashing Pumpkins' sound, there are instances where his live vocals fall short of expectations. Critics have pointed to issues such as pitchiness, strained vocals, and a lack of vocal range as detractors from his live performances. This inconsistency can detract from the overall quality of the concert and leave fans feeling disappointed. 3. Minimal Stage Presence In addition to his vocal performance, Corgan's stage presence has also been a point of contention for some critics. While he undoubtedly commands attention with his towering stature and iconic bald head, there are times when his stage presence feels static and uninspired. Critics argue that Corgan's lack of movement and energy onstage fails to captivate the audience and create a memorable concert experience. In comparison to other dynamic performers who exude charisma and stage presence, Corgan's demeanor can seem lackluster by comparison. 4. Reliance on Nostalgia As The Smashing Pumpkins continue to tour and perform live, there is a sense among some critics that Corgan relies too heavily on nostalgia to carry his live performances. While fans undoubtedly have a deep affection for the band's classic hits, there is a desire for new material and fresh energy in their live shows. Critics argue that Corgan's reluctance to deviate from the familiar setlist of fan favorites limits the potential for innovation and excitement in his live performances. 5. Dismissive Attitude Towards Critics Perhaps most concerning is Corgan's dismissive attitude towards critics and fans who voice their criticisms of his live performances. Rather than engaging in constructive dialogue or introspection, Corgan has been known to dismiss negative feedback as the musings of "tools" or irrelevant opinions not worthy of consideration. This lack of receptivity to feedback reflects a stubbornness that can hinder personal and artistic growth. In conclusion, while Billy Corgan undoubtedly possesses immense talent as a songwriter and musician, his live performances have drawn criticism from some quarters. Issues such as a perceived lack of engagement with the audience, inconsistent vocal performance, minimal stage presence, reliance on nostalgia, and a dismissive attitude towards critics have all contributed to this perception. However, it's essential to recognize that opinions on Corgan's live performances are subjective and may vary among fans and critics. Labeling those who disagree with one's perspective as "tools" oversimplifies the issue and detracts from meaningful discourse on the topic. Ultimately, the debate surrounding Billy Corgan's live performances serves as a reminder of the complex relationship between artists and their audiences, and the importance of constructive criticism in fostering growth and improvement.
@@josifyyyyour weird essay of a response to my 6 year old comment aside, the band are really tight here and this performance still fucking rocked, as most of their performances in the 90s pre Jimmy getting kicked out did. Your comments definitely apply to the band in 2024 though. So agree to disagree but also kinda agree 🤷♂️😅
Anyone else like the part where he says,..... and coil my tongue round a bumble bee mouth... for some reason even though its the weirdest thing you've heard😂
@@Jnels27 Nah XYU has a lot of less hard parts to it, it breathes. When I think of hard SP songs I think of stuff like this, Geek USA, even stuff like Jellybelly as more purely metal type songs.
@@guitaristssuck8979 - I don’t know, I always thought that song actually had a sort of light-hearted feel 🤷🏻♂️ I think the answer to my original question is probably ‘Bodies.’
That's not fog. It's the smoke rising off Jimmy's drum heads.
God I wish I could play like that. Me and everyone else.
Best alternative rock drummer of all time👌
Jesus the tempo is insane, chamberlain as always fucking kills it!
he is a real monster when he was with the Pumpkins - A Hell of a jazz drummer too .
Yeah the dude's left hand is ghost note machine@@BlueHopi144
I got sympathetic carpal tunnel between that and the furious, focused riffing!
This was the Pumpkins at their peak
The Pumpkins are eternal so they are always at their peak.
@@theearthisntflatpleasestop9899 we wish
@@electromuff7870 Oh trust me, they are preserved in eternity (our real home).
@@theearthisntflatpleasestop9899 I now agree
@@electromuff7870 *character development achieved*
Jimmy murdering the drum kit on this track. Legend
Ryan Mason and he makes it look like nothing. The man is incredible.
Absolutely murdered hell yes
Iha has the weirdest strumming technique ever
PanasonicTooth I don't know how he doesn't have carpel tunnel with his weird finger and wrist position...but I can't play guitar so what do I know...
@@dalechalfont112 skill level: asian.
He even uses a Toy Laser Gun agaisnt his pickups at 2:27
PanasonicTooth he’s still pretty good for how shitty his picking technique all though is pretty fucking questionable
@@EdouardPicard0224I tried that too…he used to do it on silver fuck to end shows
How the hell does Billy play that and sing??. He's a genius that's how🤘
It’s pretty easy once you get the rhythm going, but I agree he is a genius
I totally agree
One of the best songs, that's when they were SMASHING.
Studio smashing pumpkins were fucking great. Live performances were just out of this world. Still after all this time, still one of the greatest!
i saw new pumpkins and was floored. only 1 other band has come close.
the pinnacle of smashing pumpkins, such a badass song! i dont think theres a better drummer in the world than jimmy chamberlain, man he is amazing!
better than grohl imo
@@skord176 he's way better than grohl....
a project with him and Danny Carey combined would break the space time continuum...
They were pretty damn close to being metal in some of their songs. Great band.
Beyond metal in some songs I would say, the rage in some songs is almost scary to contemplate
Somethingclever who decides what's metal?
Me.
Christian Dulac that's true. Tales of a scorched earth is metal as fuck for instance.
yes! metal to me is more of a state, than a musical genre, just like punk, many non punk bands have been more punk than many punk bands, etc for many types of music, more about the vibe and what is 'in between the music' than anything else
jesus h. they're playing it waaaay up-tempo from the studio version and jimmy still nails all that madness after the slow jam
They actually recorded live in the studio for the album (playing together)
this is a fucking amazing post of this song. thank you- love Billy's stance on stage. You can't bring me back
perfect track
I miss the 90's!! :(
NOTHING was pulling Billy away from that supernatural execution. It just made the moment even more fucking badass.
It lowkey sucked shit tbf, and i love the frick out of William Patrick Corgan to an extent, putting aside his political views and weird ideologies of different musicians. Here is why he is objectively a bad live performer -
1. Lack of Engagement with the Audience
One common criticism leveled against Corgan's live performances is his perceived lack of engagement with the audience. Many concertgoers expect more than just a recital of songs; they seek a connection with the performer, a sense of intimacy that transcends the music itself. However, Corgan has been criticized for his aloof demeanor onstage, often appearing detached and disinterested in interacting with the crowd. His stoic presence can create a barrier between him and the audience, diminishing the overall concert experience.
2. Inconsistent Vocal Performance
Another aspect of Corgan's live performances that has drawn criticism is his inconsistent vocal delivery. While he possesses a unique vocal timbre that has become synonymous with The Smashing Pumpkins' sound, there are instances where his live vocals fall short of expectations. Critics have pointed to issues such as pitchiness, strained vocals, and a lack of vocal range as detractors from his live performances. This inconsistency can detract from the overall quality of the concert and leave fans feeling disappointed.
3. Minimal Stage Presence
In addition to his vocal performance, Corgan's stage presence has also been a point of contention for some critics. While he undoubtedly commands attention with his towering stature and iconic bald head, there are times when his stage presence feels static and uninspired. Critics argue that Corgan's lack of movement and energy onstage fails to captivate the audience and create a memorable concert experience. In comparison to other dynamic performers who exude charisma and stage presence, Corgan's demeanor can seem lackluster by comparison.
4. Reliance on Nostalgia
As The Smashing Pumpkins continue to tour and perform live, there is a sense among some critics that Corgan relies too heavily on nostalgia to carry his live performances. While fans undoubtedly have a deep affection for the band's classic hits, there is a desire for new material and fresh energy in their live shows. Critics argue that Corgan's reluctance to deviate from the familiar setlist of fan favorites limits the potential for innovation and excitement in his live performances.
5. Dismissive Attitude Towards Critics
Perhaps most concerning is Corgan's dismissive attitude towards critics and fans who voice their criticisms of his live performances. Rather than engaging in constructive dialogue or introspection, Corgan has been known to dismiss negative feedback as the musings of "tools" or irrelevant opinions not worthy of consideration. This lack of receptivity to feedback reflects a stubbornness that can hinder personal and artistic growth.
In conclusion, while Billy Corgan undoubtedly possesses immense talent as a songwriter and musician, his live performances have drawn criticism from some quarters. Issues such as a perceived lack of engagement with the audience, inconsistent vocal performance, minimal stage presence, reliance on nostalgia, and a dismissive attitude towards critics have all contributed to this perception. However, it's essential to recognize that opinions on Corgan's live performances are subjective and may vary among fans and critics. Labeling those who disagree with one's perspective as "tools" oversimplifies the issue and detracts from meaningful discourse on the topic. Ultimately, the debate surrounding Billy Corgan's live performances serves as a reminder of the complex relationship between artists and their audiences, and the importance of constructive criticism in fostering growth and improvement.
@@josifyyy I've soaked in their discography from front to back. I've seen them live. I disagree.
It's the attitude that makes the performance, the skill that makes it memorable, the vibe that makes it Rock 'n Roll i.e. can't handle the heat stay out of the kitchen lol
all the mainstream critiques and other *non-essential* BS aside, he actually connects very deeply to his audience and has for a long time to the ones that come back decade after decade, album after album.
so, there's built-in understanding or language between him and the audience, as a collective.
It's a "performance" after all, he's not there to be friends with everyone lol
I think they like it, they keep showing up and so does he. Enough said.
I am actually angry enough to get the full affect of this song currently and it’s fucking beautiful.
Me too >:3
Me too >;D
Happy Birthday Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fucking epic badassery,Pumpkins in top form, Corgan's screams, the shredding, the pounding drums,I could die .
did no one notice the naked dude walk across the stage?
who gives a fuck, just some North Sider, doing his regular step...
+BloorSimplex "The naked man is a genius. He is a free man... free of clothes." James Iha.
Too many drugs that day!
"We salute you, Naked Man!"
Love the end where you can see Jimmy laughing
Okay, say what you will about D’arcy and James in terms of their musical skills; yeah maybe they didn’t necessarily contribute much to their studio recordings, but the fact that they can play live at this fucking intensity is impressive by itself.. like fuck
They played on everything after Siamese Dream until they left the band. It was always a case of Billy being a control freak more than their ability, if you listen to live shows they were both obviously good musicians.
@@RandyRhoadsRules3 that’s not true actually and I’m not trying to bash them, James and D’Arcy played a little more on MCIS, some songs they didn’t participate on with Adore but they played more than their earlier albums still, and D’Arcy played nothing at all on Machina
@@RandyRhoadsRules3 it was warranted.
tbf they weren't up to snuff, no shade on them for that it's water over the dam at this point but the vision and the art was first and foremost. The songs deserved it.
I love the both of them for their ability and personalities and crushed so hard on D'arcy lol
Personally, I believe Corgan has been vindicated all these years later.
The critical AND public reaction to S.D. post-release says it all. IMO.
one of the best fucking songs
the band at their peak. FIRE!!!!!
this is kick as awesomeness from the 90s
Smashing! Thx!
just unreal so good
anyone have a seizure from the goddamn strobe lights? O_o
Probably lmao
3:52
WE SALUTE YOU NAKED MAN!!!
Giving us the farewell runaround lol
It hit so hard it left me scratching my face with Advil hands!
3:53 "Hello... what's up?"
Golden years...
that's the stuff. i love the intensity
Flawless
It lowkey sucked shit tbf, and i love the frick out of William Patrick Corgan to an extent, putting aside his political views and weird ideologies of different musicians. Here is why he is objectively a bad live performer -
1. Lack of Engagement with the Audience
One common criticism leveled against Corgan's live performances is his perceived lack of engagement with the audience. Many concertgoers expect more than just a recital of songs; they seek a connection with the performer, a sense of intimacy that transcends the music itself. However, Corgan has been criticized for his aloof demeanor onstage, often appearing detached and disinterested in interacting with the crowd. His stoic presence can create a barrier between him and the audience, diminishing the overall concert experience.
2. Inconsistent Vocal Performance
Another aspect of Corgan's live performances that has drawn criticism is his inconsistent vocal delivery. While he possesses a unique vocal timbre that has become synonymous with The Smashing Pumpkins' sound, there are instances where his live vocals fall short of expectations. Critics have pointed to issues such as pitchiness, strained vocals, and a lack of vocal range as detractors from his live performances. This inconsistency can detract from the overall quality of the concert and leave fans feeling disappointed.
3. Minimal Stage Presence
In addition to his vocal performance, Corgan's stage presence has also been a point of contention for some critics. While he undoubtedly commands attention with his towering stature and iconic bald head, there are times when his stage presence feels static and uninspired. Critics argue that Corgan's lack of movement and energy onstage fails to captivate the audience and create a memorable concert experience. In comparison to other dynamic performers who exude charisma and stage presence, Corgan's demeanor can seem lackluster by comparison.
4. Reliance on Nostalgia
As The Smashing Pumpkins continue to tour and perform live, there is a sense among some critics that Corgan relies too heavily on nostalgia to carry his live performances. While fans undoubtedly have a deep affection for the band's classic hits, there is a desire for new material and fresh energy in their live shows. Critics argue that Corgan's reluctance to deviate from the familiar setlist of fan favorites limits the potential for innovation and excitement in his live performances.
5. Dismissive Attitude Towards Critics
Perhaps most concerning is Corgan's dismissive attitude towards critics and fans who voice their criticisms of his live performances. Rather than engaging in constructive dialogue or introspection, Corgan has been known to dismiss negative feedback as the musings of "tools" or irrelevant opinions not worthy of consideration. This lack of receptivity to feedback reflects a stubbornness that can hinder personal and artistic growth.
In conclusion, while Billy Corgan undoubtedly possesses immense talent as a songwriter and musician, his live performances have drawn criticism from some quarters. Issues such as a perceived lack of engagement with the audience, inconsistent vocal performance, minimal stage presence, reliance on nostalgia, and a dismissive attitude towards critics have all contributed to this perception. However, it's essential to recognize that opinions on Corgan's live performances are subjective and may vary among fans and critics. Labeling those who disagree with one's perspective as "tools" oversimplifies the issue and detracts from meaningful discourse on the topic. Ultimately, the debate surrounding Billy Corgan's live performances serves as a reminder of the complex relationship between artists and their audiences, and the importance of constructive criticism in fostering growth and improvement.
@@josifyyyGive us your real reasons don’t use chat gpt
@@Logannnnnnnnnnn it’s a joke smashing pumpkins is one of my favorite bands oat
These guys were so fucking tight as a live band 😲
It lowkey sucked shit tbf, and i love the frick out of William Patrick Corgan to an extent, putting aside his political views and weird ideologies of different musicians. Here is why he is objectively a bad live performer -
1. Lack of Engagement with the Audience
One common criticism leveled against Corgan's live performances is his perceived lack of engagement with the audience. Many concertgoers expect more than just a recital of songs; they seek a connection with the performer, a sense of intimacy that transcends the music itself. However, Corgan has been criticized for his aloof demeanor onstage, often appearing detached and disinterested in interacting with the crowd. His stoic presence can create a barrier between him and the audience, diminishing the overall concert experience.
2. Inconsistent Vocal Performance
Another aspect of Corgan's live performances that has drawn criticism is his inconsistent vocal delivery. While he possesses a unique vocal timbre that has become synonymous with The Smashing Pumpkins' sound, there are instances where his live vocals fall short of expectations. Critics have pointed to issues such as pitchiness, strained vocals, and a lack of vocal range as detractors from his live performances. This inconsistency can detract from the overall quality of the concert and leave fans feeling disappointed.
3. Minimal Stage Presence
In addition to his vocal performance, Corgan's stage presence has also been a point of contention for some critics. While he undoubtedly commands attention with his towering stature and iconic bald head, there are times when his stage presence feels static and uninspired. Critics argue that Corgan's lack of movement and energy onstage fails to captivate the audience and create a memorable concert experience. In comparison to other dynamic performers who exude charisma and stage presence, Corgan's demeanor can seem lackluster by comparison.
4. Reliance on Nostalgia
As The Smashing Pumpkins continue to tour and perform live, there is a sense among some critics that Corgan relies too heavily on nostalgia to carry his live performances. While fans undoubtedly have a deep affection for the band's classic hits, there is a desire for new material and fresh energy in their live shows. Critics argue that Corgan's reluctance to deviate from the familiar setlist of fan favorites limits the potential for innovation and excitement in his live performances.
5. Dismissive Attitude Towards Critics
Perhaps most concerning is Corgan's dismissive attitude towards critics and fans who voice their criticisms of his live performances. Rather than engaging in constructive dialogue or introspection, Corgan has been known to dismiss negative feedback as the musings of "tools" or irrelevant opinions not worthy of consideration. This lack of receptivity to feedback reflects a stubbornness that can hinder personal and artistic growth.
In conclusion, while Billy Corgan undoubtedly possesses immense talent as a songwriter and musician, his live performances have drawn criticism from some quarters. Issues such as a perceived lack of engagement with the audience, inconsistent vocal performance, minimal stage presence, reliance on nostalgia, and a dismissive attitude towards critics have all contributed to this perception. However, it's essential to recognize that opinions on Corgan's live performances are subjective and may vary among fans and critics. Labeling those who disagree with one's perspective as "tools" oversimplifies the issue and detracts from meaningful discourse on the topic. Ultimately, the debate surrounding Billy Corgan's live performances serves as a reminder of the complex relationship between artists and their audiences, and the importance of constructive criticism in fostering growth and improvement.
@@josifyyyyour weird essay of a response to my 6 year old comment aside, the band are really tight here and this performance still fucking rocked, as most of their performances in the 90s pre Jimmy getting kicked out did. Your comments definitely apply to the band in 2024 though. So agree to disagree but also kinda agree 🤷♂️😅
@@FutureExitsMedia 👀oh nooo, that essay happened more than once in the comments?! 🙄🤣
This song gets u all hyped up. Intense!
I don't know, something about D'Arcy talking to Billy at the end... just kind of made me sad.
Probably talking about the naked man, like "Have you seen how crazy?"
I know exactly what you mean, I wish they were on good terms again
They must miss each other, I mean if bridges burned between Billy and Jimmy in 2010 were in the end mended, here’s to eternally hoping
I love how this band plays as close as their studio album.
I love how they all start laughing about the naked man
We salute The Naked Man..
Naked guy onstage at 3:54! 😂
what a great performance! awesome!
(and what ever you do, don't pause the vid at 3:54 ;-) )
Que público mais amorfo! Com uma música e actuação destas! Público abichanado que estava à espera de músicas 1979-like, sem conhecer os álbuns.
Hi Alex Marvik, what is the name of the program you use to convert videos? because the file size is small and the quality is great. thank you!!!
am i crazy or does a mysterious naked man walk behind billy at around 3:50??
mirá como sonaba esto la puta madre que buena banda!!!!!!
Thanks You Alex Marvik for your time and sharing.
🫂
3:52 ¡JAJAJAJAJAJA!
Fucking woooooooow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3:52 did that really happen moment..
james is like what the fuck😂😂😂😂😂
This is heavier than any heavy metal songs 🤘
Try Disembodied Tyrant
there is nothing i wouldnt do!
Julio Andres I bet, you say that to ALL the Boys.
Anyone else like the part where he says,..... and coil my tongue round a bumble bee mouth... for some reason even though its the weirdest thing you've heard😂
Nick Rios he's talking about eating someone out lololol
bumble bee mouth...someone with thick lips
One person hates the 90's.
Even after 7 months.
One person took the title of the song to the heart
nesfan8 one person let's dogs shit into there mouth
filt probably bill cosby
Random naked man comes out of nowhere🤣
that whats' ur mom s said to me at 2:45am last knight./
3:43 = JC BEETH MODE
3:50...a naked zombie😂😂😂
Intense as fuck
Naked Man, we salute you.
How do you play drums like this when you are on heroin? I dont wanna know. .. . great job Jimmy. And I am glad you are who you are and clean now :)
3:52 WHO THAT DUDE?!?!?
BODY FACE AND SOUL OF YOU IS GONE DOWN THAT DEEP BLACK HOLE.
Favourite line
🖤🖤🖤🖤
03:50 wtf
Good lord…
insane pace. ~160bpm +
“Do you like smashing pumpkins?”
“I love doing that!!”
che cazzo di bomba
thats what american airlines said when i was 50 inches away from the vicinity of the metal detacher
@@josifyyy ..you made me spit my left kidney out because of laughing🤣
Sooooooo are we all going to just ignore the naked guy at 3:52?
2:57 you can tell people didn't know this song lol
putain la patate
Seizure warning. Jesus, that strobe. Great song though!
The naked man 😭
CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE NAKED MAN? HAHAHAHAHA 😭
Still getting Hits, LOL
Following the navy psychotic
is this the heaviest Smashing Pumpkins song?
perhaps ‘Doomsday Clock’ or ‘SuperChrist’ are harder?
Id say XYU
Bodies?
@@Jnels27 Nah XYU has a lot of less hard parts to it, it breathes. When I think of hard SP songs I think of stuff like this, Geek USA, even stuff like Jellybelly as more purely metal type songs.
Tales Of A Scorched Earth
@@guitaristssuck8979 - I don’t know, I always thought that song actually had a sort of light-hearted feel 🤷🏻♂️
I think the answer to my original question is probably ‘Bodies.’
shoutout to naked guy hahaha
lolz wtf 3:54
Muthafukkin snare roll right before 2nd verse
10 people can take the song title LITERALLY 🖕🖕
Literally WhatsApp Audio Message on 1.5x speed
I don't like this song at all but I feel like this is still a really good performance
Why dont u like the song
No worries. I didn’t like it too the first time
@@vivilover9409 just sort of generic riff to me but the energy here is sick
@@anitamann9217 damn bruh I got a notif for a comment 2 years ago
@@vivilover9409 lmao just saw the response
GFY LLMA
Why in the world did i have ro be born in 1998???? Why not 1979😉