The Alexa Dimmer Is FINALLY Here | Flic Twist Review
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- The Flic Twist has FINALLY been released, but no one understands how important of a development this is for our Smart Homes, this is sooo much more than a Smart Home Dimmer.
This is actually one of the best smart home gadgets on the market, you just have to know how to use it.
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0:00 - Intro
0:36 - Flic Twist Overview
1:12 - Flic Twist Home Assistant Demonstration
4:21 - Flic Twist How To
6:09 - Flic Twist Alexa Routines & Built In Functionality
7:53 - Flic Twist Smart Home Ideas
9:04 - What's wrong with it?
11:18 - Flic Twist Summary
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Why did they not make 12 buttons on the other ring, less turning around and looking if your at the right angle (even if you put a bunch of stickers on it)
I now understand why Neesha is allowing you to fill your house with all this smart home tech… There has to be some concession if she’s forcing you to live with that bedspread and matching curtains.
I was thinking I've heard of curtains matching the carpet but never the bedspread.....this will probably get him twisted or in trouble..lol
Good call 👍🏼👍🏼
A more in depth video going over how you integrated it into home assistant would be awesome!
Small tip. Instead of using ADB commands, you could just use the media player select source service call. If you have the shield media player intergrated into homeassistant using ADB that is. Easier for most than using custom ADB commands.
Got any Examples of this? Would love to see some example yaml here
@@dejatesting2575 i made some scripts to switch sources on my nvidia shield. For example:
alias: Start Jellyfin op TV
sequence:
- service: media_player.select_source
data:
source: Jellyfin
target:
device_id: 7d6dec7d8dfca06320d7b574c254d1ba
mode: single
icon: phu:jellyfin
You can also just configure this in the graphical editer of service call service.
Does it have to have Alexa? Is a direct Zigbee integration to home assistant possible or will that only be possible when matter integration is enabled?
A deluxe model with circle displays that looked like your labels in the video would be amazing. Super cool video
I am also stoked with my flic twists purchase. I have lifx in my house (I'm Australian, and haven't had the issues that many have had with them) and it works seamlessly. I had chosen the scene blender, but wasn't aware that the selector function wasn't available on the standard twist function. I have one twist for 2 spaces (lounge and kitchen) and was thinking of resetting it to put it in that selector mode, but thanks to your video, I won't bother to do that now. I was disappointed that I couldn't use the twist for volume control on my analogue speakers via the ir blaster, but now that I have the twists, it frees up my flic 2 buttons, so I can use them with the blaster and have a button for up and one for down instead. I've been inching towards getting home assistant anyway, so I think this is the push to do exactly that to add extra functionality. 🤘🏼 Cheers
It's also bi-directional with some devices. eg. Sonos. If you adjust the volume via another method and then go to the twist, the current LEDs on the twist light up to the current volume! Brilliant. Now if only they would enable us to implement bidirectional feedback via http or home assistant so that we can add support for other devices.
every request should get a reply, is that not feedback ?
Thank you so much for this video! I've been waiting around to set up my flic twists until I found the right things to do with it.
Great video this week, Paul. I have not gotten around to finding a solution to the flic twist i thought it was going to be the worlds most expensive volume control. Thanks for the ideas. A detailed look into what you did would help.
Great fun. Ohhhh the possibilities!!! Thanks for sharing the find.
This one finally made me subscribe to your channel. Great introduction to the dimmer! Thanks for that! And yes, I'd love to see a tutorial about how you found those ADB commands. :) Great job!
Great review Paul. Extremely informative
I would be interested in the more technical bits mentioned such as ADB etc. ALSO, one needs a hub - I believe the two hub models have different functionality. Are these devices WiFi or what? You didn't mention batteries or battery life. Maybe a follow up video covering these points would be welcome. I also not that the flic website says that "Matter is coming in 2023" - we're already there! Many thanks for all your most enjoyable and interesting reviews.
I love my flic buttons, and now I'm probably gonna have to replace them all with flic twists. Thanks for that!
This seems rly useful
Someone needs to do all the tutorials
Hi Paul great coverage and happy to see an alternative perspective on the flic twists, I personally and a SmartThings user so if possible it would be ideal to see how one could make the most of it via that method as personally I wont go near Alex, and have yet to dive into HA. It is curious though as I have been able to set up manual routines via ST and assign those to the Flic Twist with (so far) not much issues. I am trying to future proof via ways of buying Matter devices primarily so obviously the Matter update should open this device right up but I do like the idea of being able to harness the likes of a projector or other media devices and get impressive automations to trigger from a flic twist.
So an in depth tutorial would be highly helpful and I think if you can cover of as many platforms users might have would be great, might be worth doing one to follow up after the release of the matter video too.
Keep up the work, your one of the staples for helping my journey to grow a smart home.
Awesome presentation as usual. I would love to know the sources for the code you are using. This seems like a cloud-based system, but I am still interested in the tech, especially because the component isn't white, so it won't discolor. so easily. Here's a million-dollar concept...get these manufacturers to offer a chrome plated option as well as black or white. If I want a wood grain look, I will find the right covering myself. Obviously, the tech side comes first but having options to make these devices easier to see or hide has some benefits too. Thanks again for all you do and Have a great new year sir.
Happy New Year Saturday Paul.
Home assistant 😅.
He is one of us.
Lol man the button 🔘 is cool.
Love the videos. Yes please for the adb stuff.
I’m about to get into Home Assistant (yes, I know) and am looking to see if the Raspberry Pi5 will be a good base point to get started. I blame you for convincing me that I could actually set it up, but my wife and kids will DEFINITELY blame me when it breaks down 😂 ). Still waiting on my Dial and buttons order with mini hub from ages ago and been met with radio silence about why it has been taking so long. Their Flic2 buttons and Hub LR are mostly reliable (when they don’t desynchronise from Alexa) but I’m not inspired by the way things are with the Dial kit order I placed last year. I hope they are better at communicating with you. This thing looks like it could be really, really useful, but I can’t confidently order more until they get the order I placed last year to me.
Love the channel, but if my virginity grows back after getting into Home Assistant, there will be trouble ‼️
Keep up the good work, and stay safe.
Tutorial would be awesome for the Home Assistant integration. Do you still need the flic hub or do they connect separately?
As always, awesome vid!
Seems like an awesome device but just so expensive compared to like an Aqara cube!
Since you have the customization of putting stickers on it .... I think having an OLED or e-paper display around the outside ring would be really good for the next interation.
That way you can dynamically change the icons based on the state / or just over time without having to re-apply stickers to it ... or not have stickers at all
e-paper, oled would drain the battery
@@jyvben1520 e-paper would be ideal since the stickers wouldn't have to change very often.
o-led would since it would have to light up on movement.
But just put a bigger battery to cater
Yes, and a braille display or a text to speech engine for blind people.
@@mitchellmnr in that little box ?
@@jyvben1520 always a way :)
Your videos are funny and informative. Keep them videos coming.
This thing looks good but yes would be good to go into detail on how you do the HA integration
Happy Hibbertday 😁
I think I achieve a similar setup with some 4-button (2x2 grid) Moes buttons. They don't rotate, which does look cool (although a bit awkward having to hold the button down), but each button has a single and double tap as well as a hold action, so can do 12 things as standard, with more things if you chain them using Home Assistant's 'wait for trigger' action in automations.
As you say in the video, you don't generally need the full dimming range, so our buttons switch between bright and dim modes with either different press/hold triggers or automatically based on time of day.
I really want to need one of these because they look so cool, but I just can't see where it would fit in our home (for now)
yeah, I have this right now, its nice, but the dial interface seems like it would win for many of the things I have on them.
@@blissweb I agree, a dial is way more intuitive for anyone to adjust the intensity of lights than buttons (especially if you are NOT the one who programmed them lol).
Same with the sliders of the (expensive) Brilliant switches.
Loving the videos, keep them coming. By the way where did you get those perfect sized stickers for the flic twist.
Thanks man! I printed them myself, it’s a little tricky though because the flic twist is concave, so I had to cut the sticker and there is some overlap. I could probably get it perfect with a little time
This looks awesome. Out of interest what lighting solutions are you now using for ceiling lights?
Would be extremely interested in a tutorial on how you achieved the grep thing and webhooks since I use fireTV sticks… seems possibilities are endless then. Thx and keep doing what you do 😊
Great video Paul, a tutorial would be great.
nice probably you can do DIY version with esp32,buttom,battery,led ring and encoder(mic for voice assist too).
I'd love to see the video for adb commands! I don't think that's been covered enough in videos, mostly only in written form all over multiple forums
This looks brillint - when it gets matter support, do you know if it will still need a hub?
Yes its finally here, Paul's upbeat video on the flick twist 🎉🎉🎉😀.
Very masterful sir, hats off to you, you've made me click your link...
But now i have more questions 🤦. Which hub did you use for these tests? Whats the difference between the hubs?
Can the flick twist be integrated in the home assistant (HA) via Bluetooth proxy?
Great sextion on HA by why, more in-depth video please, love the jokes as always👏👏👍
I think this is brilliant. I like the ease of use with Amazon Alexa
This was a great video and more people should see it.
Would love to see how you got that all working, but a video might be a bit complicated.
5:00 you certainly put the gooble gobble to the scene... wait that's goober.... never mind. ;)
Great video and neat hardware!
This is an awesome vid! I bought 3 of these back when you did your original vid & kickstarter took forever. Been trying to figure out the best way to utilize them since there are so many options with each rotating position. Did you make those stickers on the bedroom one? Something like that would be so useful bc it’s hard to remember what each position is for once you start adding a bunch. Do you have a link where you got them or tutorial on how you made them?
I bought some sticky backed paper and printed them myself after creating the sticker in photoshop. It was tricky, but turned out great.
The only issue is that the dial is ever so slightly convex which means the sticker needs cutting oddly to get it to fit, you can see in my demo I ended up just overlapping slightly to get it to sit right
Paul managed to say Philips Hue without choking. The treatments must be working.
Would love to see a full tute video on the ha commands
Absolutely interested in ADB command, specially for fire stick tv
The great thing is having a choice of different interfaces to do something, especially for the elderly, or disabled, finding any interface that "sticks" for them, is good! More choice, more opportunities to help! Funilly i lost my voice for a week with the current lurgy, you have no idea how frustrating not having voice controll suddenly is, to a blind guy who has been using it for several years! It pays to have more than one way to do things! Sadly, they dont pay me enough to buy new stuff, so i won't be buying any until they appear second hand on ebay! Great show as ever mate, watch out for the wellifants!
This channel is brilliant! I'm just here to say this should be pushed to everyone
I haven't looked into the specs of this. If it has Bluetooth, you could use ESpresense and then using HomeAssistant you could have it room specific. I.e. depending which room the flic is in could have a different set of HA automations attached.
Thanks for the review Paul. I discarded this after the bad reviews I was seeing but now I think I will give it a try. Would love to see a Home Assistant tutorial for this
I would also love to know where you got the stickers from 😃
I actually created and printed the sticker myself in photoshop. The twist is slightly concave though and you can see in my demo my sticker has some overlap at the edges as a consequence. I could probably cut the sticker in such a way that the ends met though!
I’d love to be able to change what twisting does with push&twist. I could have one device in a spot that makes sense and control multiple light zones, media volume and heating in my living room/kitchen area
Thanks!
Thank you my friend! Much appreciated ❤️
YES tutorial please.
Can you select like one part of the button, and use that to control something, so lets say you want "light1" to power on and off tv and use the dial to control volume, then you move to light 2 and the button turns on and off ur lights and controls brightness etc?
The walking fast sequence is the greatest cinematography achievement since the tracking shot in Citizen Kane xxx
Programmatically when you hold and twist, the action on release of the button would set that position as an ending point, thus triggering a single action. If you don't hold the button and just twist it, depending on if you twist it slow it fast, it could accidentally interrupt each designated spot as an action and cause it to do every action, basically one after the other.
At least this is what I'm assuming based on being a programming nerd myself. 😉
Cool hockey puck/cockroach trap. Thanks for the video.
Really happy to see that you are giving the issue with random tracks on spotify playlists some awareness. :D
I have been trying to do this for a long time and I have been asking about it in the flic community ever since I got my first flic 2 button in the beginning og 2021. :o
Hope the guys from flic sees your video. :-)
Looks decent Paul. Thank you.
Thanks Ron!
Hi Paul, a few things you seemed to miss out (assuming I didn’t miss you mentioning them).
1. Those stickers are home made and do not come with the device. They sell some pretty poor stickers for an additional cost (what did you use to create yours?).
2. You need a hub with these and there are two hubs, the mini hub and the LR hub. The LR hub is more expensive but better suited to those who really like to dabble with complex smart home set ups. However, the reason I got the LR hub is that it allows the plugging in of an IR blaster, which means you can control TV volume or anything IR (cheap Christmas lights with remote controls all made smart with a bit of programming in the app and learning of the IR signals). I think there is possibly some Bluetooth only functionality that uses your phone instead of a hub, but that is limited and might not work with the twist the way you are showing. It also means they will only work when in range of the phone they are set up with.
3. This is the biggest of your omissions. When setting up multiple selection points on the dial, 12 o clock is the default and always defaults back to that function after 10 seconds. So let’s say you’ve set up 3 o’clock to control Spotify and 12 o’clock is to turn your lights on and off. When you turn to the Spotify function and press the button to play and then three minutes later you want to pause as you showed in your video with your pause button, the Twist will have defaulted back to the lights and pressing the button will turn your lights off or on and will not control Spotify anymore until you turn the dial back to 3 o’clock and press the button.
I was a backer on Kickstarter and we told them this last point was a no go to be the only functioning option. I can understand why they have done it, but you should have the option to retain the Twist at its last used function or to default back to 12 o’clock as setting and not forced upon us. Shortcut Labs have told us lots of lies throughout the kickstarter and hidden many of the ways it wouldn’t function quite as advertised. They have also said they are focused purely on adding matter support (which was said to be part of the feature set two years ago when pitched and still does not come out of the box and is still not present). So I’d take anything Shortcut Labs say about adding features or fixing issues with a pinch of salt as they do not fulfil their promises and their communications team is appalling. Maybe you can use some of your influence to actually help us backers out and feed this back to Shortcut Labs as they are not interested in user feedback from actual consumers.
1. Photoshop and some sticky back vinyl I had kicking around. If anyone wants it then it’s here: www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07QH1GW4G?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
It never occurred to me mention the sticker was home made, I didn’t do a great job of it, you can see where it overlaps, and the Disney logo ended up printing pretty badly.
2. Am I wrong in thinking you can actually pair this to any android device and use it without a hub? I’m sure in the near future it will also work directly with home assistant using the onboard Bluetooth. You’re right though, in my example I am using their hub.
3. I don’t follow on this one. I programmed the single click to do a thing, it does that thing every time I click it, doesn’t matter where the dial is turned. 🤷🏻♂️
As for Matter support; Shortcut labs CEO has given me assurances that Matter is their only goal right now as they’re not able to do half the stuff that they had planned due to the limitations of the individual platforms, HomeKit being a particularly big let down.
I suspect from our lengthy interaction they are suitably embarrassed by a lot of the failed expectations, he never went as far as to tell me why they had expected to deliver more than they have but the email was certainly heart felt. My own view in this is that he was misled in some way as to what could be achieved, either by his own team, or by the individual companies the device is supposed to interact with.
I still believe very much in Shortcut labs as a company as they are always remarkably open with me. If they say Matter support is on the way then I believe them.
Thank you for the good Video. Please do a tutorial video
So the Flic Twist is a pretty capable device as long as you're not trying to use it and HomeKit. I do have to admit that your bedroom demo shows off the device quite well. Hopefully they can sort out the HomeKit issues soon.
Hi Paul,
just wondering who makes the best smart immersion timer for a hot water tank system?
I would LOVE a tutorial! The small number of devices controlled natively disappointed me. I didn't know you could control Alexa directly.
I also use Hubitat, and it supports http requests, so I may have to learn that also!
Second on loving a tutorial about the web hooks! I use Home Assistant and would love to incorporate this device into my home.
third :) @@scottmallonee
More flic twist idea tutorials would be great
What remote are you using for the shield and what are you using to navigate with your voice?
Please, anything you can think of to help setting up Home Assistant. Those videos would be priceless.
13:04 Finally something I can relate to. Not many people speak native Home Assistant.
Yes do more how to on the flic twist! Does it HomeKit?
Thanks. Tempt us with a really useful button, only to find it's not available in the UK 😟
It would make sense if Flic made it so you can choose how many points on the dial are usable. If you only need 4, to make dimming lights easier, then leave it at 4 points. If you want more, select it in the app.
yup, if you only want to run actions at quarter points then leave the other points blank. it's odd that it wasn't obvious to flic in the first place
I like your star trek tshirt.
until you said it a HTTP interface i figured it was just another product but thats amazing. A large part of the internets communication uses HTTP/S for back and forth data and yet for some reason google apple and amazon came together and thought hmmm lets create a closed source protocol just for devices inside a home to talk to each other and devices makers have to pay for..
lol "ONE OF US" HOME ASSISTANT! - Well Done Paul :-) I just learned how to get Google to announce the value of a sensor over voice or notification in Home Assistant, Happy New Year Hope all is well, long time no speak
If you pair your alexa to your firestick, you can use the flic twist to control alexa to open any app or tv channel or show
Hey Paul, great video on the flic twists. I have them but thought the same as many and quite limited, but now excited to do so much more after watching your latest vid. Where did you get your little Netflix / UA-cam etc stickers please?
Yeah very curious on the stickers too
Created it myself. I had some sticky back shiny paper left over from another project, so I just took a picture of their dial from Google and put it in photoshop, measured the dial in real life and stretched it in photoshop to be the same size. I then drew around the dial in photoshop where I would need to cut it and then added the logos by hand before printing and cutting very carefully.
I did discover that the dial is slightly concave which you’ll notice my sticker overlaps as a consequence. I could probably have cut it in such a way that the edges would meet 🙂👍🏻
Any chance of sharing the photoshop template
I’ve got one , haven’t run boxed it yet . Can You remap the media selections
Very interesting product. Been waiting for it for ages. Do you know if you can choose the different Spotify playlist and have them play through Sonos speakers? That would be my main use, but I can't find any info on this😅😅 Thanks from Copenhagen!
There is a Sonos integration for it, so you can alter volume and stuff and you may be able to do it through there, but if not the Spotify integration should allow for this as you can choose the speaker it plays from :)
Mine eventually arrived with an import duty bill of £54 from DHL.
Mate how did you get it to turn your projector on I have that exact one and have had resort to a little switch bot?
I turned on hdmi-cec and now when I turn on the nvidia shield it automatically powers up the projector.
You could turn the projector on directly though too using add commands 😀
Does It work on TCP lights.
It has smartthings integration exactly the same way as alexa integration. Amazing gadget!
Interesting. good review. As you get older, the waterfall has the opposite effect.
🤣
5:00 have to say, this is one of the best laughs I have gotten out of your video's in a long time :D
yay...another tool I find neat but can't find an immediate use for in my setup.
Can you dim control two lights. Ie one with a twist and one with a button hold and twist ?
Yes, though you can only set 4 points in the main dial, 12 for a press and twist
You nearly have an equal amount of Sean's and Steven's in your patreon list at the end! 😁🤓
More HA tutorials in general would be great.
do i need flic hub or it will work with alexa echo 4gen?
Apparently, you need a hub. The buttons don't need a hub and can be used on your phone, but the twist needs it. There seems to be a bundle to get the twist and the mini hub together for 100 dollars where the mini hub is 40 and the twist is 80 by themselves.
Would love to see a Tutorial for webhocs
Thanks Paul. Any chance of a more detailed tutorial on how to get it to activate Alexa routines? I just get a message saying this action has no configurable options!
really? i was considering buying it for alexa routines.
edit: flic have their own video showing it v=XMCx3WgyBEE
Once you set it to Alexa and it tells you there’s no configurable options when you press save it will appear in Alexa as a device with the name of whatever you called it in the flicker app. From there you can use the “device” to trigger routines 😁
Thanks Paul. It took a few attempts (ahem!) but I’ve got it working! 👍Maybe these things aren’t such a waste of money after all! 🤣
Engagement comment.
Anyway, yes, I get it and it’s on my project list. Happy new year, etc 🙂
This is perfect node-red fodder.
What’s the connectivity on this? Looking at their website it says you also need their hub so I presume it’s not thread. It does however say their hub supports HomeKit which you said in the video it doesn’t.
Morning dude! Just got a Sharp TV with Roku, and the app selection is automatically shared with HA. Shame the firestick doesn't do the same.
Also, I see you with the google speaker!
Am I hate the Google speaker. Had to reboot it AGAIN the other day for losing WiFi. Wish I could start locally housed files on an Alexa device via home assistant with as much ease!
does this bedroom thingie require HA or is it possible with anything else...like hubitat?
Still waiting for my two to from the crowdfunder to turn up. Have largely given up on them being of any use, if they do ever turn up.
Saturday has arrived... 😊
Can I use this directly with Home Assistant without a flic hub? I have a zigbee radio in my HA yellow
This is Bluetooth, so it’s an interesting question. You can connect the flic buttons directly to the Bluetooth module of home assistant, but I suspect no one has made the integration for the flic twist yet.
Presumably you need a Flic hub to utilise the Twist to its fullest extent?
Nice accessory, Paul, but I think I'll wait for flic twist2 with the 12 position dial selection update.
It will probably be available on this version of the flick twist, since the issue is software-based. Quite obviously, the device can read all 12 points of rotation, it's just not allowing all 12 of those points to be exposed when you're not pressing and holding the device.
there's no way that isnt going to be a software update, there's no need for new hardware to achieve that
Flic have confirmed they plan to do it for this version
Great video.
However, I would point out that in a few years, playing a waterfall sound during the night will result in multuiple trips to the loo!
(As an old geezer, I don't even need the waterfall sound)